I'm really liking the way we are trending with QB's

[Homedawg]

Someone that can actually operate in a passing offense would have been good.

Welcome back.....

[BlackSailsDawg]

I see Mike Wright as a comparable to Nick Fitzgerald. We loved that guy but he would not have started at QB for any other school in the SEC. Mike Wright is exactly where he should be.

Fitz was abetter passer. During Fitz time here, he had few quality WRs too. I do not want to go back to that.

[KB21]

It will be hard to recruit WRa and QBs to this offense.

[Reason2succeed]

IGNORE TROLLS

[Really Clark?]

RJ Martinez from Northern Arizona. Committed to Baylor instead.

I said who we could get realistically. Kid was going to a Texas school, he's from Austin. He didn't even want our coaches to visit.

[Really Clark?]

It will be hard to recruit WRa and QBs to this offense.

Nope

[Really Clark?]

My point is that we should not like a "trend" towards that. Nothing more. Nothing less.



Wait now. I'm suppose to be ok with Ole Miss getting QBs with a higher up side than us now? Is that where we are? What I want is to attract the players needed at MSU to take the next step. What I don't want is to "love the trend" used in the same sentence as a career back up throwing it at a 52%.

Does that make me anti Arnett. No.




Point? Se above. I made no vague statement. I was clear. Celebrating a 52% QB and career back up and hoping that is a trend is legit nuts. There is no perceived problem. It's a legit problem to have a massive gap below Rogers and above Parson. It more than concerning.





He is not an SEC starter. He lost out to 2 different QBs in his career at Vandy. This past season, he lost out to a freshman and played due to injuries:

Vandy’s junior quarterback will be the starter at the position once again when the Commodores take the field at 11 a.m. CT Saturday in Lexington, Kentucky. Wright resumes the role he began the season with as freshman AJ Swann will be out this week due to injury.

Oh I see, you are a fool with an agenda and no solution to your perceived problem. In other words an obnoxious whiney troll.

[msu15]

It will be hard to recruit WRa and QBs to this offense.

Not at all with how many explosive plays the WR's get, much better than Leach's 3 yard check downs only to get blasted by a defender.

[BlackSailsDawg]

IGNORE TROLLS

Nobody is trolling. I don't have a single problem with what the staff has done except for the lack of quality depth at QB. We will have more shots at the end of spring. A 52% passer is an issue and I don't care at what level you playin at let alone in the SEC.

It's a problem and the staff has to make up ground there.

Want perspective on that:

LSU in 2021 finished last in SECW. They threw it for 60%


This year:


115 Indiana 53.96% 48.65% 58.14% 57.93% 48.09% 50.27% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Won 4 games
116 Miami (OH) 53.85% 45.83% 55.56% 54.84% 53.19% 57.25% >>>>>>>>>>> Won 6 games
117 Florida 53.20% 51.09% 59.09% 54.23% 52.48% 62.04% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won 6
118 TX El Paso 53.16% 54.93% 48.00% 55.15% 51.63% 54.39% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won 5
119 Virginia 53.07% 52.13% 51.52% 56.36% 49.31% 63.15% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won 3
120 Hawaii 52.67% 53.78% 55.56% 52.87% 52.44% 55.38% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Won 3
121 New Mexico 51.88% 52.11% 44.44% 52.73% 51.16% 51.95% >>>>>>>>>>> Won 2
122 Auburn 50.87% 46.43% 47.83% 57.22% 39.00% 58.99% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Won 5
123 Wyoming 50.00% 44.00% 60.00% 52.99% 47.77% 54.24%>>>>>>>>>>>>Won 7
124 Rutgers 49.84% 47.25% 36.36% 49.10% 50.71% 56.99% ................... won 4...
125 Colorado 49.72% 46.48% 53.57% 55.87% 40.82% 56.69%
126 W Michigan 49.36% 41.43% 33.33% 43.26% 54.39% 63.01%
127 N Mex State 49.22% 57.75% 58.62% 52.69% 47.24% 55.97%
128 U Mass 48.06% 50.55% 52.00% 48.84% 47.67% 49.08%
129 Air Force 46.91% 41.67% 57.14% 48.28% 46.15% 48.15%
130 Navy 43.36% 38.89% 25.00% 32.35% 48.10% 49.48%
131 Army 42.00%


See the point?

[BlackSailsDawg]

Oh I see, you are a fool with an agenda and no solution to your perceived problem. In other words an obnoxious whiney troll.


A fool thinks that a 52% passer is what we need.

The solution is to recruit better QBs in the next window.

It's not a perceived problem. It is a problem as shown with any year you want to look at when teams complete passes at that rate. It's not perceived when we have an issue between the starter and Parson is injured. That's a reality.

Troll? That's what people go to when they can't defend or have any other meaning comment. Not a damn thing I stated was factually wrong and I backed up what I stated with team finishes. If Will goes down, 52% will not win us games in the SEC. The QB room is a problem right now.


Whose problem is it to fix? HC Arnett. So let's get to work to find the next 2 years QB and more.

[Really Clark?]

A fool thinks that a 52% passer is what we need.

The solution is to recruit better QBs in the next window.

It's not a perceived problem. It is a problem as shown with any year you want to look at when teams complete passes at that rate. It's not perceived when we have an issue between the starter and Parson is injured. That's a reality.

Troll? That's what people go to when they can't defend or have any other meaning comment. Not a damn thing I stated was factually wrong and I backed up what I stated with team finishes. If Will goes down, 52% will not win us games in the SEC. The QB room is a problem right now.


Whose problem is it to fix? HC Arnett. So let's get to work to find the next 2 years QB and more.

Oh calling you a troll has nothing to do with no defense for your absurd stance a week later. It has everything to do with all your posts actually coming from a troll who only wants to complain with no real solution, just bitching to bitch.

Wright completed 57.4% of his passes this year, not 52%. If you are going to be a troll, at least be an accurate troll. 12 TD 4 INT and 134.06 passer rating (Will was only 139.08). So again, why you bitching with inaccurate stats,

We went after several QB's and still looking to add another. This is someone with actual SEC experience and was a good get to be a backup, no matter how much you bitch about it, doesn't change it was a dang good pick up.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Oh calling you a troll has nothing to do with no defense for your absurd stance a week later. It has everything to do with all your posts actually coming from a troll who only wants to complain with no real solution, just bitching to bitch.

Wright completed 57.4% of his passes this year, not 52%. If you are going to be a troll, at least be an accurate troll. 12 TD 4 INT and 134.06 passer rating (Will was only 139.08). So again, why you bitching with inaccurate stats,

We went after several QB's and still looking to add another. This is someone with actual SEC experience and was a good get to be a backup, no matter how much you bitch about it, doesn't change it was a dang good pick up.

That's your own misconceptions. I didn't complain about Wright coming here. I stated that this can not be the norm. A trend.... which is what was being said.

You are right. He is a 52% passer when you add it all in. If you want to not add in UGA, that's fine. That puts him at 55% over the past 2 season.

Tenn: 53.8
UK: 52.2
SC: 53.3
Wake: 53.3

Either way, you can ignore it all you want. This is not a trend we want. Parsons, yes.

[Ari Gold]

Nobody is trolling. I don't have a single problem with what the staff has done except for the lack of quality depth at QB. We will have more shots at the end of spring. A 52% passer is an issue and I don't care at what level you playin at let alone in the SEC.

It's a problem and the staff has to make up ground there.

Want perspective on that:

LSU in 2021 finished last in SECW. They threw it for 60%


This year:


115 Indiana 53.96% 48.65% 58.14% 57.93% 48.09% 50.27% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Won 4 games
116 Miami (OH) 53.85% 45.83% 55.56% 54.84% 53.19% 57.25% >>>>>>>>>>> Won 6 games
117 Florida 53.20% 51.09% 59.09% 54.23% 52.48% 62.04% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won 6
118 TX El Paso 53.16% 54.93% 48.00% 55.15% 51.63% 54.39% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won 5
119 Virginia 53.07% 52.13% 51.52% 56.36% 49.31% 63.15% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won 3
120 Hawaii 52.67% 53.78% 55.56% 52.87% 52.44% 55.38% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Won 3
121 New Mexico 51.88% 52.11% 44.44% 52.73% 51.16% 51.95% >>>>>>>>>>> Won 2
122 Auburn 50.87% 46.43% 47.83% 57.22% 39.00% 58.99% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Won 5
123 Wyoming 50.00% 44.00% 60.00% 52.99% 47.77% 54.24%>>>>>>>>>>>>Won 7
124 Rutgers 49.84% 47.25% 36.36% 49.10% 50.71% 56.99% ................... won 4...
125 Colorado 49.72% 46.48% 53.57% 55.87% 40.82% 56.69%
126 W Michigan 49.36% 41.43% 33.33% 43.26% 54.39% 63.01%
127 N Mex State 49.22% 57.75% 58.62% 52.69% 47.24% 55.97%
128 U Mass 48.06% 50.55% 52.00% 48.84% 47.67% 49.08%
129 Air Force 46.91% 41.67% 57.14% 48.28% 46.15% 48.15%
130 Navy 43.36% 38.89% 25.00% 32.35% 48.10% 49.48%
131 Army 42.00%


See the point?

Do you honestly think that if Coach Leach hadn’t passed away , that all 3 of the QBs that transferred, would have ALL stayed .?? That answer is no .. One if not 2 would have prob left. And one went to play for Tarelton State for ****s sake
And apparently both Locke or Sawyer not only didn’t make a push for the starting job they couldn’t beat out Lovertich for the back up job ..

So not counting Greek , we basically we traded Sawyer and Locke for Wright who beat Fla and Kentucky ...

Excuse Me while I don’t go full panic mode

[Really Clark?]

That's your own misconceptions. I didn't complain about Wright coming here. I stated that this can not be the norm. A trend.... which is what was being said.

You are right. He is a 52% passer when you add it all in. If you want to not add in UGA, that's fine. That puts him at 55% over the past 2 season.

Tenn: 53.8
UK: 52.2
SC: 53.3
Wake: 53.3

Either way, you can ignore it all you want. This is not a trend we want. Parsons, yes.

What are you taking about? He is 57.4% for this past season. He is 55.3% for his entire career, counting every single game he threw a pass in at Vandy. I know math is hard but damn what are you looking at.

What about Georgia? Count it, I don't care, he only threw 1 pass dumbass.You are going leave off his 62.5% in the win over Florida? You need to go back over his stats, you are off dingleberry.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Do you honestly think that if Coach Leach hadn’t passed away , that all 3 of the QBs that transferred, would have ALL stayed .?? That answer is no .. One if not 2 would have prob left. And one went to play for Tarelton State for ****s sake
And apparently both Locke or Sawyer not only didn’t make a push for the starting job they couldn’t beat out Lovertich for the back up job ..

So not counting Greek , we basically we traded Sawyer and Locke for Wright who beat Fla and Kentucky ...

Excuse Me while I don’t go full panic mode


Where do you get that I think that? Greek was going to transfer. The other 2? No idea, but there is zero point in talking about it. Leach did pass away. We did move away from that system.

Sawyer beat out Lovertich. Again. None of that has anything to do with this.




Excuse Me while I don’t go full panic mode


Who is going full panic mode?

[BlackSailsDawg]

What are you taking about? He is 57.4% for this past season. He is 55.3% for his entire career, counting every single game he threw a pass in at Vandy. I know math is hard but damn what are you looking at.

What about Georgia? Count it, I don't care, he only threw 1 pass dumbass.You are going leave off his 62.5% in the win over Florida? You need to go back over his stats, you are off dingleberry.


Like I said. 55% career if you don't add it. So let's make that easy for us. Don't count the game. I don't care. 55%. We can agree. See how easy that is. I'm not going to split hairs. That can not be the trend.


FL... We are seriously talking FL where he had a QBR of 50. 60% with 108 yards passing? That's what we want to be the trend? WRs coming here for that? come on.


Neither you nor I want that to be the trend. We both know that Clark. The good news is that's not going to be the trend.

[Pancho]

I like the dingleberry line. very fitting

[Commercecomet24]

All we need is whiskey pirate to show up and the thread would be complete lol!

[Really Clark?]

Like I said. 55% career if you don't add it. So let's make that easy for us. Don't count the game. I don't care. 55%. We can agree. See how easy that is. I'm not going to split hairs. That can not be the trend.


FL... We are seriously talking FL where he had a QBR of 50. 60% with 108 yards passing? That's what we want to be the trend? WRs coming here for that? come on.


Neither you nor I want that to be the trend. We both know that Clark. The good news is that's not going to be the trend.

You still can't add and divide. He is over 55% for his career EVEN adding Georgia. Count Georgia because I am!! I counted them all, not trying to fudge a number. I don't think you are you just can't do the math. He has 333 passing attempts for his career. He has completed 184 passes. Divide 184 by 333 and you get .553, multiple that by 100 and that makes 55.3%. See not hard.

Nobody is claiming he is as accurate as Will but damn dude, of all things to be inaccurately using stats to argue about, a back-up SEC QB with starting experience in the league, ain't an arguing point. It's a damn fine backup option that late in the portal.

[Really Clark?]

All we need is whiskey pirate to show up and the thread would be complete lol!

https://media.tenor.com/nPOauhqmVCUAAAAC/star-wars-circle-is-now-complete.gif

[Commercecomet24]

https://media.tenor.com/nPOauhqmVCUAAAAC/star-wars-circle-is-now-complete.gif

Awesome!

[Really Clark?]

Awesome!

Some of these have to be the same poster using different names. If not....

http://m.quickmeme.com/img/0b/0bc384c48acd28f504fc9682baae5c40e6a6fef80db0c3b936 d54465acd67eb7.jpg

[BlackSailsDawg]

You still can't add and divide. He is over 55% for his career EVEN adding Georgia. Count Georgia because I am!! I counted them all, not trying to fudge a number.



..... 85 out of 149 in 2022.
..... 93 out of 175 in 2021.

That's 178 out of 324. That is 54.94%. That's his numbers the last 2 years. So I assume you want to talk about his 10 passes in 2020 completing 6. Ok, Let's do that and split some hairs for the sake of being "right". That's 184 out of 334. That is 55.09%

So yeah I can do math very well. So let's split hairs and argue over .3% Cause that's a damn difference maker.






Nobody is claiming he is as accurate as Will but damn dude, of all things to be inaccurately using stats to argue about, a back-up SEC QB with starting experience in the league, ain't an arguing point.


It wasn't the arguing point. That's what you made it to be. Once more as clear as I can say it. The argument I made was and is the "Love the way this is trending " All I said is it can't be the trend where our QB room is preferred walk ons and a career back ups. It can not be 55% passers.

I followed that with stating support for Arnett saying he will have the next window to add what's needed.

[msstate7]

Would you say going from no backup to a backup with sec starting experience is trending the right way?

[Really Clark?]

..... 85 out of 149 in 2022.
..... 93 out of 175 in 2021.

That's 178 out of 324. That is 54.94%. That's his numbers the last 2 years. So I assume you want to talk about his 10 passes in 2020 completing 6. Ok, Let's do that and split some hairs for the sake of being "right". That's 184 out of 334. That is 55.09%

So yeah I can do math very well. So let's split hairs and argue over .3% Cause that's a damn difference maker.






It wasn't the arguing point. That's what you made it to be. Once more as clear as I can say it. The argument I made was and is the "Love the way this is trending " All I said is it can't be the trend where our QB room is preferred walk ons and a career back ups. It can not be 55% passers.

I followed that with stating support for Arnett saying he will have the next window to add what's needed.

85 out of 148 for 2022. You were still off by one even after I called your numbers out twice. You were off because you couldn't count and divide and kept stating he was a 52% passer even when he has never been a 52% passer. That's not splitting hairs over .3% of a percent, you were either using hyperbole to make an inaccurate argument or can't add.

God forbid he actually showed a 4.3% improvement from last year to this year. Wow! How could that be? He is coming in as a 57.4% passer from last year. Guess with 2 years left he won't keep getting better and more accurate? I mean nobody ever gets better in accuracy do they? Good grief man, he is a FREAKING BACK-UP!! We needed a backup. We got one with SEC experience and other P5 offers. That's is a nice trend at the end of the portal cycle.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Would you say going from no backup to a backup with sec starting experience is trending the right way?

We will see what we can find after spring when QBs will again enter the portal. The OC will have settled in, the staff will have had time to see what's what....etc.

[Commercecomet24]

Some of these have to be the same poster using different names. If not....

http://m.quickmeme.com/img/0b/0bc384c48acd28f504fc9682baae5c40e6a6fef80db0c3b936 d54465acd67eb7.jpg

That's my theory as well.

[BlackSailsDawg]

85 out of 148 for 2022. You were still off by one even after I called your numbers out twice.


Like I said and corrected. 55%. You are splitting hairs over .3%. I don't care about the .3% My point stands no matter how much you want to make it about .3%. This can not be the norm for our QB room.



We needed a backup. We got one with SEC experience and other P5 offers. That's is a nice trend at the end of the portal cycle.


We differ on what's a nice trend. We don't need a back up. We need a future starter.


God forbid he actually showed a 4% improvement from last year to this year. Wow! How could that be? He is coming in as a 57.4% passer from last year.



When you add in Elon and the HaW (117th) and the 97th ranked FL defense. Yes. It pulls all those 52% and 53% up. Any defense ranked above 94th, he struggled with. Wake was ranked 93rd and he struggled. The only team with a defense ranked above 94th in the nation that he completed 9 out of 15 passes (60%) was Mizzou.



he is a FREAKING BACK-UP!!


Who is one play away from being the starter.



NONE of that is the point I made. The trend can not be a QB room with preferred walk ons and 55% passers. And I don't think that will be the case after spring practice.

[Really Clark?]

Like I said and corrected. 55%. You are splitting hairs over .3%. I don't care about the .3% My point stands no matter how much you want to make it about .3%. This can not be the norm for our QB room.




We differ on what's a nice trend. We don't need a back up. We need a future starter.



When you add in Elon and the HaW (117th) and the 97th ranked FL defense. Yes. It pulls all those 52% and 53% up. Any defense ranked above 94th, he struggled with. Wake was ranked 93rd and he struggled. The only team with a defense ranked above 94th in the nation that he completed 9 out of 15 passes (60%) was Mizzou.




Who is one play away from being the starter.



NONE of that is the point I made. The trend can not be a QB room with preferred walk ons and 55% passers. And I don't think that will be the case after spring practice.

You kept saying he is a 52% passer. That was a lie or like as been proven multiple times in this thread, you can't do the maths. That's not .3% splitting hairs, that's a completely inaccurate statement.

Well good, you got a 57.4% passer from 2022. He got better from his Soph year. It's a miracle. He was a 57.4% passer this past year. I know it's hard to understand that players improve, but he did. Maybe, just maybe, with a better supporting cast and coaching he is closer to 60%. That would only be a 2.6% improvement from this year and he improved 4.3% from 2021 to 2022. Not to mention in conference only games his QB rating was 5 points higher than our starting QB and rushed for 7.28 yards per carry and 5 TD's on top of his throwing. But none of that really matters since, you know, we need QB's!!

[BlackSailsDawg]

You kept saying he is a 52% passer.


And I corrected that to the 55% which is correct.




Well good, you got a 57.4% passer from 2022. He got better from his Soph year. It's a miracle.


LOL. Ok Clark. Not going to keep dissecting this with you. Our QB room can not be preferred walk ons and 55% passers. Glad he is here. Glad they were able to get somebody, but i expect that we will bring in more after the spring to raise the level in it.


Not to mention in conference only games his QB rating was 5 points higher than our starting QB




Wright.. 47.7(7 SEC games played) Rogers 59.7 (8 Sec games played).




Chance Nolan is in the portal. Started 17 games. This year, 59.5% this year and averaged 4.7 per carry. Last year 64% and rushed it 70 times at 4.1 per carry. JR.


There will be more.

[Really Clark?]

And I corrected that to the 55% which is correct.




LOL. Ok Clark. Not going to keep dissecting this with you. Our QB room can not be preferred walk ons and 55% passers. Glad he is here. Glad they were able to get somebody, but i expect that we will bring in more after the spring to raise the level in it.





Wright.. 47.7(7 SEC games played) Rogers 59.7 (8 Sec games played).




Chance Nolan is in the portal. Started 17 games. This year, 59.5% this year and averaged 4.7 per carry. Last year 64% and rushed it 70 times at 4.1 per carry. JR.


There will be more.

I said rating not QBR. Wright had a higher rating in conference games.

Nolan is trying to get his grades situated to graduate and not coming here with a 3 year starter already In place. May be heading to Indians.

[Cooterpoot]

Why do y'all argue with the most obvious troll on the site? It's pointless

[KB21]

The recruitment of Mike Wright tells me one thing. The head coach does not value the passing game.

[Todd4State]

Would you say going from no backup to a backup with sec starting experience is trending the right way?

This is the correct answer. I was a little surprised that we got him because there is no guarantee that he starts here next year. It's very difficult to find a quality back up QB in the portal because they all want to start. That said, I'm sure they are expecting him to start in 2024 worst case scenario. If Will comes back for 2024 which I do not expect at this time- then Wright can always leave as a grad transfer I think.


The recruitment of Mike Wright tells me one thing. The head coach does not value the passing game.

I think the hope is that his completion percentage was lower due to playing with Vanderbilt talent. Which is a gamble IMO. But again- we're not going to find a back up without blemishes. It tells me that we're going to shift to a more App State style offense eventually. One thing that is promising about Wright is his TD/INT ratio which is very good. We're also going to add another QB and we have Parson that I could see possibly beating Wright out for the starting spot in 2024 potentially.

In other words- enjoy 2023 because we're going to lose a LOT of players after this year.

[KOdawg1]

Holy crap, this thread is still going?

[Coursesuper]

All we need is whiskey pirate to show up and the thread would be complete lol!

Probably all one and the same.

[Dawgface]

Is there not a way to ban an ip address? Not just the user name. It's a shame one or two fkers can ruin a board.

[Homedawg]

It will be hard to recruit WRa and QBs to this offense.

We lit up the world recruiting qb's that couldn't play under leach.

[Cooterpoot]

The recruitment of Mike Wright tells me one thing. The head coach does not value the passing game.

Stop being a *****.

[BlackSailsDawg]

We lit up the world recruiting qb's that couldn't play under leach.

Leach had 2 QBs that started for him in his time here. 1 lasted 3 games before injury and from there it was Rogers. We won 9 games with him. I wouldn't call that not being able to play.

[BlackSailsDawg]

We're also going to add another QB and we have Parson that I could see possibly beating Wright out for the starting spot in 2024 potentially.



Hopefully we add 2

[KB21]

Losing Robertson and Locke and getting Wright is a negative trade off for Mississippi State.

[Pancho]

yea but you look so clean in your khaki's and button down shirt. You closet racist slave fans are a silly lot. It must be awful waking up each day and feeling so deprived and overlooked. Surely you are important to somebody.

[Homedawg]

Losing Robertson and Locke and getting Wright is a negative trade off for Mississippi State.

Cause you've seen Robertson and locke play. Right...uh huh.

[Really Clark?]

Losing Robertson and Locke and getting Wright is a negative trade off for Mississippi State.

Just going to gloss over signing Parson...of course a douche like you would.

[State82]

We lit up the world recruiting qb's that couldn't play under leach.

Good point.

[KB21]

When did I do that? He?s another QB that signed with us because of Mike Leach and the Air Raid system. I?ll be surprised if he stays long term to hand the ball off in Barbay?s offense.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Losing Robertson and Locke and getting Wright is a negative trade off for Mississippi State.

If CML was still here do you think those two were going to stay and waste another year behind Will?

[Really Clark?]

When did I do that? He?s another QB that signed with us because of Mike Leach and the Air Raid system. I?ll be surprised if he stays long term to hand the ball off in Barbay?s offense.

Actually he signed with ZA. He kept him committed through the change.

[Really Clark?]

If CML was still here do you think those two were going to stay and waste another year behind Will?

One was already leaving even with Leach still here.

[Homedawg]

When did I do that? He?s another QB that signed with us because of Mike Leach and the Air Raid system. I?ll be surprised if he stays long term to hand the ball off in Barbay?s offense.

So he can transfer to another place that hands it off 55% of the time too?? There are soooo many places that throw it as much as you want..... like ZERO!!!

[msstate7]

KB and blacksails dislike ZA as much as I disliked Moorhead. The difference is I gave Moorhead the benefit of the doubt until he was trash at Kentucky. Hating a guy before we really even see him do his thing is just unfair imo

[Really Clark?]

KB and blacksails dislike ZA as much as I disliked Moorhead. The difference is I gave Moorhead the benefit of the doubt until he was trash at Kentucky. Hating a guy before we really even see him do his thing is just unfair imo

Well the mentally deficient narcissist doesn't comprehend objectively.

[KB21]

I do not dislike Zack Arnett. I dislike the way he has handled the offense. I love his aggressive defensive style and would prefer to maintain it. That style pairs, better with a pass oriented air raid scheme than it does a ground and pound scheme.

[msstate7]

I do not dislike Zack Arnett. I dislike the way he has handled the offense. I love his aggressive defensive style and would prefer to maintain it. That style pairs, better with a pass oriented air raid scheme than it does a ground and pound scheme.

Maybe, or maybe he's right. Letting him display the product before declaring it a failure seems the smart thing to do

[BlackSailsDawg]

KB and blacksails dislike ZA as much as I disliked Moorhead. The difference is I gave Moorhead the benefit of the doubt until he was trash at Kentucky. Hating a guy before we really even see him do his thing is just unfair imo

Did you pull that BS out of your ass or an actual bull? I have never expressed a dislike of Arnett. I have never expressed hating him. Why make shit up? As a matter of fact, I have stated that he deserves his time unless the wheels come off.


You don't even know what you are arguing or fighting about. Just a typical lash out towards anybody you disagree with.

[msstate7]

Did you pull that BS out of your ass or an actual bull? I have never expressed a dislike of Arnett. I have never expressed hating him. Why make shit up? As a matter of fact, I have stated that he deserves his time unless the wheels come off.


You don't even know what you are arguing or fighting about. Just a typical lash out towards anybody you disagree with.

Maybe I'm wrong. You sure come across that way

[BlackSailsDawg]

Maybe I'm wrong. You sure come across that way

No I don't. You make a personal choice to make me out to be that way and that says way more about you.


If you want to know where I stand, just ask. don't make shit up.

[Pancho]

It appears that CZA is seeking an offensive system which, if nothing else burns more clock and keeps his aggressive D on the sideline a touch more each game. I'd love to see some dialogue tween CZA and ole miss douche dinker KB21 face to face and watch the preppie piss himself.

[KB21]

It appears that CZA is seeking an offensive system which, if nothing else burns more clock and keeps his aggressive D on the sideline a touch more each game. I'd love to see some dialogue tween CZA and ole miss douche dinker KB21 face to face and watch the preppie piss himself.

So, the typical meathead defensive minded idea of offense, believing that time of possession actually matters to winning.

[RockyDog]

So, the typical meathead defensive minded idea of offense, believing that time of possession actually matters to winning.

You just can?t help being an idiot can you?

[Pancho]

you do seem to evidently love the 25 seconds off the clock and 3 and out but I figure lotta you closet racist slave loving ole miss douche types swing and missed alot growing up and ended up perfecting the art of the circle jerk. I say again, I'd love to hear u call CZA a meathead to his face, you weak ass c*nt. you probably have a shark outfit

[dawggoneit]

He's still wearing the bear outfit. His wife won't let him buy a shark until they're sure that's what the mascot is gonna be. He's still got his fingers crossed the next one will be more progressive and he can wear that dress and heels 👠 at the tailgate! (Not that there's anything wrong with that if that's his thing) edit: sorry KB. I should not have used he and his.

[Todd4State]

It appears that CZA is seeking an offensive system which, if nothing else burns more clock and keeps his aggressive D on the sideline a touch more each game. I'd love to see some dialogue tween CZA and ole miss douche dinker KB21 face to face and watch the preppie piss himself.

We were 7th in the SEC in time of possession.

[Pancho]

Not disputing that fact. He does want to limit the possibility of as many 3 and outs though.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Not disputing that fact. He does want to limit the possibility of as many 3 and outs though.

So does every HC and OC in America at any level.

[KB21]

Far more likely to have three out out drives by trying to establish the run game.

[Pancho]

yes but one burns more clock typically one the ground. evidently you were one of them cats in the red shoes in the ole miss library

[BlackSailsDawg]

evidently you were one of them cats in the red shoes in the ole miss library

What the hell does that even mean?



yes but one burns more clock typically one the ground.




We ranked 54th this year in the nation.

we ranked 7th in the nation last year and 1st in the SEC.


Which year did we run it more in?



The point you are trying to make is not a valid point.

[Todd4State]

yes but one burns more clock typically one the ground. evidently you were one of them cats in the red shoes in the ole miss library

The problem with running more clock is you get fewer chances to score. That's part of why tempo became a thing.

Now if we're up on someone late then yes we should run the ball.

[Jarius]

So, the typical meathead defensive minded idea of offense, believing that time of possession actually matters to winning.

Hey dumbass, go check out Coach Leach’s time of possession stats while he was here.

[KB21]

https://cdispatch.com/sports/2021-09-29/leach-calls-time-of-possession-nearly-useless/

?A stat that is nearly useless is time of possession,? Leach said Monday. ?We might lead the nation in that, which I take no gratification out of.?

[KB21]

The two biggest flaws in the thinking process some of you have about offensive football are these:

1. The idea that Mike Leach didn?t want to create explosive plays in the passing game. He did, and there were many opportunities that simply didn?t get executed well.

2. The idea that an increased focus on the run game is going to create more opportunities to create explosive plays in the passing game.

[msstate7]

I don't know if TOP is useless...

https://i.postimg.cc/J4P80pw4/056-CF033-EB48-4-F96-8-D01-E51-AB1-FBDCD7.jpg (https://postimg.cc/zVb6PSX9)

https://i.postimg.cc/D0xNvYS9/41-F94480-A131-400-D-BD45-DBDDB05-C5069.jpg (https://postimg.cc/bS2gLgHg)

There seems to be a correlation between TOP leaders and total defense leaders

[Really Clark?]

It's not the time of possession, the issue this season was 3rd conversion percentage. That's what ZA would like to be better at. We were 112th nationally in conference only games. Less short drives from our offense, more 3rd down conversions, more scoring opportunities and less time the defense is on the field to increase its efficiency as well. That's is the synergy between both sides of the ball that needs to increase.

[Todd4State]

I don't know if TOP is useless...

https://i.postimg.cc/J4P80pw4/056-CF033-EB48-4-F96-8-D01-E51-AB1-FBDCD7.jpg (https://postimg.cc/zVb6PSX9)

https://i.postimg.cc/D0xNvYS9/41-F94480-A131-400-D-BD45-DBDDB05-C5069.jpg (https://postimg.cc/bS2gLgHg)

There seems to be a correlation between TOP leaders and total defense leaders

TOP value is dependent on your offensive philosophy. If you want to run the ball more then yes it's very important. So- yeah. Air Force.

If you want to score more points and score more quickly then it doesn't matter as much.

[Todd4State]

It's not the time of possession, the issue this season was 3rd conversion percentage. That's what ZA would like to be better at. We were 112th nationally in conference only games. Less short drives from our offense, more 3rd down conversions, more scoring opportunities and less time the defense is on the field to increase its efficiency as well. That's is the synergy between both sides of the ball that needs to increase.

Going to a more run heavy offense isn't going to help with that unless we're not converting a ton of third and 1's.

[Really Clark?]

Going to a more run heavy offense isn't going to help with that unless we're not converting a ton of third and 1's.

Where the hell did I mention running it more? Good grief. It's not either or, quit trying to fit everything into black or white. It's about having overall balance on both sides of the ball. You can be very good on 3rd down conversions either way that is usually because you are ahead of the chains. Passing or running is irrelevant in the overall point of our piss poor 3rd down conversion rate. UM was 12th nationally and ran it a good bit, wouldn't you say. Quit trying to create a pass vs run argument when my post had absolutely nothing to do with that.

[Ari Gold]

Where do you get that I think that? Greek was going to transfer. The other 2? No idea, but there is zero point in talking about it. Leach did pass away. We did move away from that system.

Sawyer beat out Lovertich. Again. None of that has anything to do with this.




Who is going full panic mode?

Actually Sawyer didn?t win the backup role a coach on the staff personally told me that

My point was we traded 2 backup QBs for a kid that started for a SEC school and who beat UK and Fla.. pretty good pick up,for a backup QB

[Todd4State]

Where the hell did I mention running it more? Good grief. It's not either or, quit trying to fit everything into black or white. It's about having overall balance on both sides of the ball. You can be very good on 3rd down conversions either way that is usually because you are ahead of the chains. Passing or running is irrelevant in the overall point of our piss poor 3rd down conversion rate. UM was 12th nationally and ran it a good bit, wouldn't you say. Quit trying to create a pass vs run argument when my post had absolutely nothing to do with that.

Fair enough.

My overall point was we need to execute better on third downs in conference games.

[Really Clark?]

Fair enough.

My overall point was we need to execute better on third downs in conference games.

I 100% agree on that.

[KB21]

App State had a lower 3rd down conversion percentage and lower red zone conversion than Mississippi State.

Run that dang ball though.

[msstate7]

App State had a lower 3rd down conversion percentage and lower red zone conversion than Mississippi State.

Run that dang ball though.

What about an analytical stat like FEI?

[KB21]

App State was 35th in FEI. We were 37th.

[msstate7]

App State was 35th in FEI. We were 37th.

So they were better?

[Really Clark?]

App State had a lower 3rd down conversion percentage and lower red zone conversion than Mississippi State.

Run that dang ball though.

They had a higher conversion percentage in conference only games than we did. They were 83rd and we were 112th nationally.

They were not as efficient in the red zone, but what were their total scores? They scored 43 times in the RZ and we scored 40 times. They were in the RZ 54 times (40th nationally) we had 45 tries (76th nationally). They were 39th nationally in RZ TD's and we were 48th. That is a lot more in opportunities and more in actual TD's than we were.

[Todd4State]

They had a higher conversion percentage in conference only games than we did. They were 83rd and we were 112th nationally.

They were not as efficient in the red zone, but what were their total scores? They scored 43 times in the RZ and we scored 40 times. They were in the RZ 54 times (40th nationally) we had 45 tries (76th nationally). They were 39th nationally in RZ TD's and we were 48th. That is a lot more in opportunities and more in actual TD's than we were.

Hard to compare the Sun Belt to the SEC. Especially with App State being a blueblood in that conference essentially. Speaking of comparing conference to conference only.

I think the reality is this:

With essentially the same players coming back with another year of experience and an easier overall schedule next year our offense will be fine in 2023. Beyond that we will see.

I don't think we have the players to do what Barbay really wants to do so it comes down to if he will really adjust or not in the short term for 2023 only.

[Pancho]

To sum it all up, KB21 is a rebel/bear/shark/slave loving/racist cuck.................probably wearing his quuer blue colored shirt right now

[Really Clark?]

Hard to compare the Sun Belt to the SEC. Especially with App State being a blueblood in that conference essentially. Speaking of comparing conference to conference only.

I think the reality is this:

With essentially the same players coming back with another year of experience and an easier overall schedule next year our offense will be fine in 2023. Beyond that we will see.

I don't think we have the players to do what Barbay really wants to do so it comes down to if he will really adjust or not in the short term for 2023 only.

Well since App St played 2 P5's in non-conference, I thought an apples to apples in like competition they played in conference was more realistic look at their numbers.

[KB21]

49ers offense right now is a wet dream for Arnett.

[msstate7]

49ers offense right now is a wet dream for Arnett.

Dude, you should seriously drink bleach

[Pancho]

this MFer is a moron

[Homedawg]

49ers offense right now is a wet dream for Arnett.

You're not even being a troll. Just an unbearable douche.

[KB21]

Well heck. I thought y?all were enjoying running the ball every play like they did in the second half.

[yjnkdawg]

Can somebody get KB back in good (or at least semi-good) standings over on 247? He just wants attention and some on here are giving him exactly what he wants. He is going to continue to argue and say he is right and has actually ruined (hijacked) some threads with posting things not even applicable to the thread. I also agree with Homedawg.

[Homedawg]

Well heck. I thought y?all were enjoying running the ball every play like they did in the second half.

Dipshit, and I'm being kind, not one person here in this argument has said that. Not one. But it would be nice to be able to run it in 1and goal from the 2 line we had it at Memphis in 2021. But anyway. Carry in w your clown show. And find a team to follow that throws it's much as you like. And be forewarned, there isn't one.

[RockyDog]

Well heck. I thought y?all were enjoying running the ball every play like they did in the second half.

You have no f?n clue what our offense will look like any more than Nostradamus does. You are just an insufferable tool that is making shit up.

Sorry that your team won?t be passing that ball 75 times a game anymore but that is not how real football is supposed to be played anyway.

You act like our offense the last 3 years was some unstoppable machine. It wasn?t. We had a noodle arm QB and unfortunately we won?t ever know what could have been. But even with the rumor mill going last year it was highly doubtful we were going to see many more years with the Pirate at the helm anyway.

[Homedawg]

Can somebody get KB back in good (or at least semi-good) standings over on 247? He just wants attention and some on here are giving him exactly what he wants. He is going to continue to argue and say he is right and has actually ruined (hijacked) some threads with posting things not even applicable to the thread. I also agree with Homedawg.

He tucked his tail and ran there. Wish he'd do the same here. I love good arguments. But stuff like his last comment is just beyond stupid.

[Pancho]

lots of folks who " come out" act this way

[Jarius]

49ers offense right now is a wet dream for Arnett.

I wish Arnett would knock the **** out of your dick sucker.

[KB21]

Y?all must be hating this Bengals/Chiefs game.

[RockyDog]

Y?all must be hating this Bengals/Chiefs game.

Why? Because both QBs have a normal number of passes? Neither one is on pace for 75 pass attempts, dipshit

[Homedawg]

Y?all must be hating this Bengals/Chiefs game.

Notice they both are willing to run it in on when needing 2 yards in the red zone . ...... but crickets from you on that part. Wtf were they thinking. Should have thrown it. ...

[Really Clark?]

Y?all must be hating this Bengals/Chiefs game.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/26ueZ6xtAmExFgTde/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952f6ffb761e30b960bb95a993d9806 ca559df33e96&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

[Homedawg]

Chiefs 50 percent on the year on third and one?? Wonder why?? Hmmm.

[Homedawg]

Y?all must be hating this Bengals/Chiefs game.

Again douche- nobody is against throwing it. And if we had these two qbs the percent they throw it would be ok. But you want it 75% if the time. Which neither of these even do.

[Homedawg]

Why are they punting?? Analytics say never punt!!! Wth kb?? 4-3 and punt?? Just dumb not following the book****

[KB21]

77. Pass attempts between these two teams at this point. What is this sorcery?

[Homedawg]

77. Pass attempts between these two teams at this point. What is this sorcery?

And......w mahomes and j burrow.... they still don't throw it 75% of the time all year. Which is low for you. A run is a wasted play.

[Homedawg]

Another punt. Damn analytics. From the + 36. People are rolling over in their graves w that crap!!

[Really Clark?]

And......w mahomes and j burrow.... they still don't throw it 75% of the time all year. Which is low for you. A run is a wasted play.

I mean as much as they throw it today the score should be 45-45 not 20-20...I don't understand???

[Pancho]

77. Pass attempts between these two teams at this point. What is this sorcery?

you love your queer blue shirt

[Homedawg]

I mean as much as they throw it today the score should be 45-45 not 20-20...I don't understand???

Chirp chirp from him. He doesn't respond to comments based on facts.