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msstate7
01-06-2023, 08:27 PM
So out of the top 25 on your list, 3 had good seasons. TCU Mich and uga
Playoffs is the only measure of a good season? I would say there are many more "good seasons" on that list, but sure 3/4 of the playoff teams are on the list and both you'll see Monday
Coach34
01-06-2023, 08:31 PM
Ok lets address some stuff:
1) Friend was so "well respected" that post Auburn firing Memphis was all he could get. Auburn fans hated him. before that he was at TN and TN fans thought the OL was under performing their star rating (I live in TN country so know them well). Before that he was a bad OC at CSU, don't know how that OL did.
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The fact is we just poached Memphis' OL coach after every P5 program passed on him this offseason.
2) Bumphis does not have the resume to deserve this job. I'm sorry, I hope he does great, but he just doesn't... Great college player, had a cup of coffee in the league, GA, WR coach for a few years an his unit did NOT impress, and the fans of that team are fine with him leaving.
The fact is we let Hollinghead walk for the above resume because Dawg. And I get it, I want bump to be a stud coach more than I'm pulling for any other assistant. But it's maroon colored glasses to say this isn't a downgrade.
3) Chaney and Bobo. Yeah I get it, "we aren't hiring either", but when Steve got his marching orders why were they even mentioned? WHo in this coaching search is thinking "Jim Chaney, tell the fans that's who were looking at so we can guage the reaction"? You have 2 reasons to leak a name- 1) is to distract from the real hire, 2) is to see if the fans are ok with the leaked name. Well there's no big hire coming so 1) isn't it. If it was 1) we'd have head smokescreens while the Briles stuff was going on, not now
This all reeks of cigar. There is no denying it.
Friend is a good coach- period.
Bump is replacing Spurrier- who was told he wasnt going to be retained
Hollingshead was told he wasnt getting the OC job. So he started working the phones. He was not run off
Rayburn8
01-06-2023, 08:36 PM
Friend is NOT a good hire, Auburn fans hated him. I love Bumphos and he may be great but his resume is weak as hell and Utah fans on Reddit don't mind him leaving. Peterson is a good hire
You cannot possibly disagree that these are Good Ole Boy hires, can you? Replace 2 good coaches with 2 guys with MS ties, and bring back a analyst that used to work here. Arnett has never met these people- the boosters have. Who is calling the shots here?
Even if you disagree that the boosters are running the show, why the hell is Bobos name brought up at all? Whether we hire him or not, the fact he's been names is a red flag for whoever is calling the shots.
Reddit users are much more causal and not good gages.
If you went to Utah's 24/7 board you would have saw they were very upset he was losing and called it a big loss.
Bump is not a good ole boy hire, he is a great coach who happens to be an alum.
Also y'all overrate the hell out of Jr. because of his freaking last name.
Coursesuper
01-06-2023, 08:36 PM
Friend is a good coach- period.
Bump is replacing Spurrier- who was told he wasnt going to be retained
Hollingshead was told he wasnt getting the OC job. So he started working the phones. He was not run off
Is Friend going to coach the OLine? Maybe, maybe not, we will have TE spot to fill also. That was where Chuck had him.
the_real_MSU_is_us
01-06-2023, 08:37 PM
Friend is a good coach- period.
Bump is replacing Spurrier- who was told he wasnt going to be retained
Hollingshead was told he wasnt getting the OC job. So he started working the phones. He was not run off
You're playing dumb. Friend failed at his last 2 jobs and the best job he could get pre us was Memphis. That is the FACT, "hes a good coach-Period" is your OPINION. My guess is you know Friend personally
And you know we could have moved Hollingshead to WR to replace Spurrier. Regarding Hollingshead leaving because he wasn't OC, I don't believe that. He's not going to get an OC job anywhere. He was pushed out
I call BS on Hollinghead rumor.
Rayburn8
01-06-2023, 08:38 PM
Ok lets address some stuff:
1) Friend was so "well respected" that post Auburn firing Memphis was all he could get. Auburn fans hated him. before that he was at TN and TN fans thought the OL was under performing their star rating (I live in TN country so know them well). Before that he was a bad OC at CSU, don't know how that OL did.
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The fact is we just poached Memphis' OL coach after every P5 program passed on him this offseason.
2) Bumphis does not have the resume to deserve this job. I'm sorry, I hope he does great, but he just doesn't... Great college player, had a cup of coffee in the league, GA, WR coach for a few years an his unit did NOT impress, and the fans of that team are fine with him leaving.
The fact is we let Hollinghead walk for the above resume because Dawg. And I get it, I want bump to be a stud coach more than I'm pulling for any other assistant. But it's maroon colored glasses to say this isn't a downgrade.
3) Chaney and Bobo. Yeah I get it, "we aren't hiring either", but when Steve got his marching orders why were they even mentioned? WHo in this coaching search is thinking "Jim Chaney, tell the fans that's who were looking at so we can guage the reaction"? You have 2 reasons to leak a name- 1) is to distract from the real hire, 2) is to see if the fans are ok with the leaked name. Well there's no big hire coming so 1) isn't it. If it was 1) we'd have head smokescreens while the Briles stuff was going on, not now
This all reeks of cigar. There is no denying it.
Number 2 is not true. Again, the plugged in fans on their 24/7 board were all saying how sad it was he is leaving, how they would miss him, and that it is a huge loss.
Anybody who uses Reddit as their gauge of the fanbase's opinion is not worth arguing with. And I use R/CFB all the time.
Coach34
01-06-2023, 08:39 PM
Is Friend going to coach the OLine? Maybe, maybe not, we will have TE spot to fill also. That was where Chuck had him.
Well shit- if we keep Miller and Friend coaches TE's- we improved our offensive coaching staff from 2022
mo7888
01-06-2023, 08:39 PM
You're playing dumb. Friend failed at his last 2 jobs and the best job he could get pre us was Memphis. That is the FACT, "hes a good coach-Period" is your OPINION. My guess is you know Friend personally
And you know we could have moved Hollingshead to WR to replace Spurrier. Regarding Hollingshead leaving because he wasn't OC, I don't believe that. He's not going to get an OC job anywhere. He was pushed out
I call BS on Hollinghead rumor.
Didn't he get an OC position today?
the_real_MSU_is_us
01-06-2023, 08:39 PM
Is Friend going to coach the OLine? Maybe, maybe not, we will have TE spot to fill also. That was where Chuck had him.
I would be happy with him as TE coach, I'll give him that. Miller is a very good OL coach and if he's not the Ol coach next year we downgraded- that's my point in all this. Friend is a plus hire at TE coach, a minus hire at OL
Rayburn8
01-06-2023, 08:39 PM
You're playing dumb. Friend failed at his last 2 jobs and the best job he could get pre us was Memphis. That is the FACT, "hes a good coach-Period" is your OPINION. My guess is you know Friend personally
And you know we could have moved Hollingshead to WR to replace Spurrier. Regarding Hollingshead leaving because he wasn't OC, I don't believe that. He's not going to get an OC job anywhere. He was pushed out
I call BS on Hollinghead rumor.
Dude Hollinghead literally got announced as the Western Kentucky OC earlier today.
msstate7
01-06-2023, 08:40 PM
Is Friend going to coach the OLine? Maybe, maybe not, we will have TE spot to fill also. That was where Chuck had him.
Friend gonna have it easy as our TE coach haha
Coach34
01-06-2023, 08:41 PM
You're playing dumb. Friend failed at his last 2 jobs and the best job he could get pre us was Memphis. That is the FACT, "hes a good coach-Period" is your OPINION. My guess is you know Friend personally
And you know we could have moved Hollingshead to WR to replace Spurrier. Regarding Hollingshead leaving because he wasn't OC, I don't believe that. He's not going to get an OC job anywhere. He was pushed out
I call BS on Hollinghead rumor.
Holy shit moron. Are you not aware Hollingshead is the new OC at Western Kentucky? Why would he stay at State when he could be the OC at WK?
Friend is a good coach. Many others have this same opinion.
Wow- our fans are going full rahtard
Really Clark?
01-06-2023, 08:43 PM
You're playing dumb. Friend failed at his last 2 jobs and the best job he could get pre us was Memphis. That is the FACT, "hes a good coach-Period" is your OPINION. My guess is you know Friend personally
And you know we could have moved Hollingshead to WR to replace Spurrier. Regarding Hollingshead leaving because he wasn't OC, I don't believe that. He's not going to get an OC job anywhere. He was pushed out
I call BS on Hollinghead rumor.
It's no rumor on Hollingshead. He was fielding opportunities the previous weeks. He was up front about it and we were up front about what we were doing. He didn't "get fired" and land upward to an OC job in Division 1. They had already been in discussions prior to the bowl game.
WinningIsRelentless
01-06-2023, 08:45 PM
Miller is a former rb and has coach rb. Or you could do like Mullen and have a t & te coach and interior ol coach
Commercecomet24
01-06-2023, 08:45 PM
Well shit- if we keep Miller and Friend coaches TE's- we improved our offensive coaching staff from 2022
Absolutely.
Really Clark?
01-06-2023, 08:46 PM
Miller is a former rb and has coach rb. Or you could do like Mullen and have a t & te coach and interior ol coach
Great points
the_real_MSU_is_us
01-06-2023, 08:49 PM
Holy shit moron. Are you not aware Hollingshead is the new OC at Western Kentucky? Why would he stay at State when he could be the OC at WK?
Friend is a good coach. Many others have this same opinion.
Wow- our fans are going full rahtard
Ok fine i'm wrong on Hollingshead. But if Friend is the OL coach that's a massive downgrade. You cannot claim he's a good coach when he was fired at his last 2 jobs and landed at Memphis
yjnkdawg
01-06-2023, 08:51 PM
Well shit- if we keep Miller and Friend coaches TE's- we improved our offensive coaching staff from 2022
Now that sounds like a plan. :)
Coach34
01-06-2023, 08:55 PM
Ok fine i'm wrong on Hollingshead. But if Friend is the OL coach that's a massive downgrade. You cannot claim he's a good coach when he was fired at his last 2 jobs and landed at Memphis
Why did Friend lose his job at Tennessee? HC was fired due to NCAA violations
Why did Friend lose his job at Auburn? HC lost his job and then Friend made them better when he took over as OC
Really Clark?
01-06-2023, 09:00 PM
Why did Friend lose his job at Tennessee? HC was fired due to NCAA violations
Why did Friend lose his job at Auburn? HC lost his job and then Friend made them better when he took over as OC
I mean he ran a really good offense against us on short prep
msstate7
01-06-2023, 09:04 PM
I think we're all guilty of having tunnel vision at times when it comes to players/coaches that we like. When one leaves or gets replaced, it makes us mad, and we can't/won't see that it isn't always a bad thing
Pinto
01-06-2023, 09:04 PM
https://twitter.com/brucefeldmancfb/status/1611536660034129927?s=46&t=9lC6wowHX8dnmQbX_eAhbA
confucius say
01-06-2023, 09:06 PM
Friend grades in the top 20% of all FBS OL coaches since 2009 per the numbers (look at Matrix Analytical). It's a solid hire.
And like I said in the other thread, it's not Bobo and never was.
Really Clark?
01-06-2023, 09:07 PM
Friend grades in the top 20% of all FBS OL coaches since 2009 per the numbers (look at Matrix Analytical). It's a solid hire.
And like I said in the other thread, it's not Bobo and never was.
Very solid.
the_real_MSU_is_us
01-06-2023, 09:07 PM
Why did Friend lose his job at Tennessee? HC was fired due to NCAA violations
Why did Friend lose his job at Auburn? HC lost his job and then Friend made them better when he took over as OC
And the next HC and TN and Auburn chose to not retain Friend. You know, like how we might (and hopefully will) retain Miller? FRIEND IS AT MEMPHIS. When Matt Luke got fired from OM he got a job as the OL coach at UGA because he's a good OL coach. When MUllen got canned at UF Hevesy got fired with him and is now an analyst at GT, because he's not a good OL coach. Friend is better than Hevesy but he's not as good as Miller at OL. BUT, big BUT here, I'd happily take him as TE or RB coach. He's got connections
msstate7
01-06-2023, 09:10 PM
And the next HC and TN and Auburn chose to not retain Friend. You know, like how we might (and hopefully will) retain Miller? FRIEND IS AT MEMPHIS. When Matt Luke got fired from OM he got a job as the OL coach at UGA because he's a good OL coach. When MUllen got canned at UF Hevesy got fired with him and is now an analyst at GT, because he's not a good OL coach. Friend is better than Hevesy but he's not as good as Miller at OL. BUT, big BUT here, I'd happily take him as TE or RB coach. He's got connections
What if miler doesn't go to a blueblood? Does that mean he isn't good? After all like friend, he wouldn't have been retained by a new coach
sack07
01-06-2023, 09:11 PM
And the next HC and TN and Auburn chose to not retain Friend. You know, like how we might (and hopefully will) retain Miller? FRIEND IS AT MEMPHIS. When Matt Luke got fired from OM he got a job as the OL coach at UGA because he's a good OL coach. When MUllen got canned at UF Hevesy got fired with him and is now an analyst at GT, because he's not a good OL coach. Friend is better than Hevesy but he's not as good as Miller at OL. BUT, big BUT here, I'd happily take him as TE or RB coach. He's got connections
You are getting hung up on coaches having to take a step down. That?s not really indicative of their coaching abilities. Just as a recent example, Sonny Dykes was fired at Cal and had to take a job as an analyst at TCU before landing the SMU job. What?s he doing now?
Commercecomet24
01-06-2023, 09:13 PM
I think we're all guilty of having tunnel vision at times when it comes to players/coaches that we like. When one leaves or gets replaced, it makes us mad, and we can't/won't see that it isn't always a bad thing
Man you nailed it. This is so true. Before my sons freshman year of hs the school let go a very popular baseball coach who'd been there a long time but ran kind of a country club. They beat who they were supposed to beat but always had an early exit in playoffs. Lot of parents got pissed off because the new coach ran off the deadwood, started playing the underclassmen and within 3 years won the schools first state championship. Change always affects people some embrace it some hate it and can't deal with it but many times it's for the better.
the_real_MSU_is_us
01-06-2023, 09:15 PM
I mean he ran a really good offense against us on short prep
Are you advocating for him to be OC? I trust the opinions of fans who watch every game over how a guy did in 1 game vs us too. That's why I don't care about any "top 20%" random computer ranking BS. Fans know their teams better than computers do
the_real_MSU_is_us
01-06-2023, 09:23 PM
What if miler doesn't go to a blueblood? Does that mean he isn't good? After all like friend, he wouldn't have been retained by a new coach
If Friend isn't retained, and then isn't retained by the next school he lands at (and is hated by the fanbase there) and then lands at Memphis, I will agree he's probably not an elite OL coach and I was wrong.
Really Clark?
01-06-2023, 09:26 PM
Are you advocating for him to be OC? I trust the opinions of fans who watch every game over how a guy did in 1 game vs us too. That's why I don't care about any "top 20%" random computer ranking BS. Fans know their teams better than computers do
Dude, it was just an off handed comment. Good grief. I don't give a craps what fans say. Coaches in college that I know and from the fraternity know he is a really good OL coach. Period. He's good. Miller is good but you are letting your fandom for one coach override who are actually good coaches at their job. Friend has been consistently for over a decade been consider a top OL coach.
the_real_MSU_is_us
01-06-2023, 09:30 PM
You are getting hung up on coaches having to take a step down. That?s not really indicative of their coaching abilities. Just as a recent example, Sonny Dykes was fired at Cal and had to take a job as an analyst at TCU before landing the SMU job. What?s he doing now?
It's USUALLY a sign. Just like good coaches aren't always retained when a HC changes, but USUALLY the administration tried to get the new HC to keep the studs. If a guy goes through multiple coaching changes (in this case it's TN and Auburn) and isn't retained... well he MIGHT be a great coach, but the odds are low. Would I hire him over a G5 Ol coach that fields poor units? Yes. Would I hire him over Miller as OL coach? No. That's my point. Happy to have him if we can keep Miller as the OL coach
yjnkdawg
01-06-2023, 09:31 PM
If Friend isn't retained, and then isn't retained by the next school he lands at (and is hated by the fanbase there) and then lands at Memphis, I will agree he's probably not an elite OL coach and I was wrong.
I think hate is a little over blown. KB this past season had fans who got upset with him in some games . Said he was too conservative in his play calling (probably Pittman) and some even wanted him fired. Fans aren't in the locker room or on the field either.
msstate7
01-06-2023, 09:33 PM
Another thing to consider is ZA looks to be moving away from the air raid. Isn't miller's experience mostly in the air raid?
the_real_MSU_is_us
01-06-2023, 09:35 PM
Dude, it was just an off handed comment. Good grief. I don't give a craps what fans say. Coaches in college that I know and from the fraternity know he is a really good OL coach. Period. He's good. Miller is good but you are letting your fandom for one coach override who are actually good coaches at their job. Friend has been consistently for over a decade been consider a top OL coach.
Coaching is a fraternity? Close, but nah. It's a good old boys club. And you don't trust fans? Fans watch the games, know the recruiting profiles, see every false start. Coaches are wrong often- remember Mullen running Holloway? JoMo doing literally anything he did on O? Coaches can have flaws that fans see. If a fanbase agrees a coach did a bad job, usually that coach did a bad job
Really Clark?
01-06-2023, 09:40 PM
Coaching is a fraternity? Close, but nah. It's a good old boys club. And you don't trust fans? Fans watch the games, know the recruiting profiles, see every false start. Coaches are wrong often- remember Mullen running Holloway? JoMo doing literally anything he did on O? Coaches can have flaws that fans see. If a fanbase agrees a coach did a bad job, usually that coach did a bad job
Whatever. Most fans and I mean nearly all of them only watch the ball and see a result. They don't breakdown each player, position group and play call to know why it failed or succeed.
Friend is a good OL coach. Miller is a good OL coach. Both are on staff right now and we are hoping to keep it that way if possible.
MrCoachKlein
01-06-2023, 09:44 PM
Playoffs is the only measure of a good season? I would say there are many more "good seasons" on that list, but sure 3/4 of the playoff teams are on the list and both you'll see Monday
I missed fl state. I guess UCLA did OK. Read another post after my comment that pointed out d on a lot of those teams was what cost them (tsun comes to mind). I was hasty with that post.
I really just don't want to go back to 3 yards in a cloud of dust. We have to have a good passing attack to compete. Even if the split is 60/40 70/30 run. You have to have a good passing game to throw off the d and have big plays to open the run like kiffen briles or heupel. IMO Dan spread power didn't really have that
MrCoachKlein
01-06-2023, 09:47 PM
Friend is a good coach- period.
Bump is replacing Spurrier- who was told he wasnt going to be retained
Hollingshead was told he wasnt getting the OC job. So he started working the phones. He was not run off
This is really the only move I'm scratching my head over. I don't know anything about Friend, but surely miller is better, right? I thought he was like a top 15 CFB ol coach. I know he isn't gone yet, but I don't see a position for him besides oc and I don't think we want that.
the_real_MSU_is_us
01-06-2023, 09:47 PM
Look I hope I'm wrong on everything. I hope Bump does great, CZA does great, the OC we hire does great, Friend is an elite coach and C34 calls me an idiot every Sunday morning over my opinions expressed here. I think a lot of people have maroon colored glasses if the rumors aren't a concern... terrible OC names, rumors we want to focus on MS recruiting, that CZA wants to run a grind it out O, hiring coaches befire we get an OC which will drive off some candidates... but I hope I'm wrong and will bow out of these discussions till a OC is named. Hailstate!
MrCoachKlein
01-06-2023, 09:48 PM
Well shit- if we keep Miller and Friend coaches TE's- we improved our offensive coaching staff from 2022
Now that I could get behind 100%. Just don't want to lose miller. Great ol coach and recruiter
Cooterpoot
01-06-2023, 10:42 PM
Now that I could get behind 100%. Just don't want to lose miller. Great ol coach and recruiter
Miller is gone barring a change of direction or him getting OC. Rumor is Hughes to TE and Turner back at DL. Only defensive spot after that will be S.
ScooterDog
01-06-2023, 11:03 PM
It?s reported on the Scoop that CVA and Bono are/were in discussions, that?s scary cause they usually have good info,
ScooterDog
01-06-2023, 11:04 PM
Correction, Bobo.
William Tecumsah Sherman
01-06-2023, 11:04 PM
Football scoop is no friend to Mississippi State
Commercecomet24
01-06-2023, 11:09 PM
Football scoop is no friend to Mississippi State
This, never has been never will be.
Cooterpoot
01-06-2023, 11:09 PM
It?s reported on the Scoop that CVA and Bono are/were in discussions, that?s scary cause they usually have good info,
No they don't LOL
Commercecomet24
01-06-2023, 11:11 PM
Y'all it's not bobo.
CadaverDawg
01-06-2023, 11:12 PM
Football Scoop is Poop. It ain't Bobo, thank the good Lord above
Commercecomet24
01-06-2023, 11:16 PM
Heck Steve probably got the bobo info from football scoop lol!
DownwardDawg
01-06-2023, 11:43 PM
Has football scoop ever been right?
KOdawg1
01-06-2023, 11:47 PM
Idk if Bobo was ever a serious candidate, but when his name got leaked, there was no way he was getting hired with the outrage that followed.
Again, he might not have been high on our list anyway.
Goldendawg
01-06-2023, 11:52 PM
According to a well informed longhaired author this is our next OC. He is one of the 1st guys to incorporate the Air raid and isn't afraid to get innovative!
https://youtu.be/eKbXO0f-mvw
Offensive meetings can be held at The Pony.*******
Eric Nies Grind Time
01-07-2023, 08:49 AM
Idk if Bobo was ever a serious candidate, but when his name got leaked, there was no way he was getting hired with the outrage that followed.
Again, he might not have been high on our list anyway.
I think it was just Steve stirring it up.
chef dixon
01-07-2023, 10:06 AM
Pretty sure football scoop has some ole miss folks running it
WinningIsRelentless
01-07-2023, 10:26 AM
Guys chill with the Bobo stuff. We broke our rule and tried to get Briles who is a Sexton client and once he stayed at Arkansas Sexton used his typical playbook and tried to pump one of his other clients for States position. Nothing more nothing less.
msudawglb
01-07-2023, 10:28 AM
Ok, it?s a brand new day! Yesterday was crazy with the Bozo references. Let?s get it started?.who?s the latest name being heard?
mo7888
01-07-2023, 10:44 AM
I believe after ZA was announced he said in an interview we were continuing with the air raid and since we've gone after Briles and then the Bobo stuff yesterday. It sort of feels like he's got outside pressure on him to make a change and, with no AD to shield him that's gotta be tough. I hope he goes back to his original statement and sticks with the AR in some form. As for OC names today, I still like Hatcher but I wouldn't be mad if we circled back and spoke with Littrell again. He'd bring some veteran experience to assist a young coach and ZA could probably sell that to whoever is pressuring him. If we strike out on both then I'm fine with promoting Miller.
I doubt we get any clarity over the weekend with the visitors we have in but, as crazy as the last few days have been you never know..
DownwardDawg
01-07-2023, 10:47 AM
Ok, it?s a brand new day! Yesterday was crazy with the Bozo references. Let?s get it started?.who?s the latest name being heard?
DownwardDawg. I'll do it for $700,000/year. We'll look as good as we did last year against Bama and I won't leave unless fired.
Dawgface
01-07-2023, 10:50 AM
It?s reported on the Scoop that CVA and Bono are/were in discussions, that?s scary cause they usually have good info,
OM troll?
msudawg1200
01-07-2023, 10:52 AM
It?s reported on the Scoop that CVA and Bono are/were in discussions, that?s scary cause they usually have good info,
Football Scoop is ran by Ole Miss homers. They'll make up anything to make us look bad.
Homedawg
01-07-2023, 10:52 AM
It?s reported on the Scoop that CVA and Bono are/were in discussions, that?s scary cause they usually have good info,
Bad info
Homedawg
01-07-2023, 10:53 AM
Idk if Bobo was ever a serious candidate, but when his name got leaked, there was no way he was getting hired with the outrage that followed.
Again, he might not have been high on our list anyway.
He wasn't even on the list. At all. Dont care what Steve said
Homedawg
01-07-2023, 10:53 AM
DownwardDawg. I'll do it for $700,000/year. We'll look as good as we did last year against Bama and I won't leave unless fired.
That's fair
civildawg
01-07-2023, 10:59 AM
I just don?t understand how our insiders get continuously duped by agents. How many times are they going to let themselves look like fools before they wisen up to these tactics?
StarkVegasSteve
01-07-2023, 11:07 AM
I just don?t understand how our insiders get continuously duped by agents. How many times are they going to let themselves look like fools before they wisen up to these tactics?
Because when you have only been at one school for your entire time, like every one of ours has, you have very few contacts in the coaching profession and in other parts of the country. So they have to rely on agents. If they stopped listening to agents then they would have nothing to report.
parabrave
01-07-2023, 12:52 PM
He wasn't even on the list. At all. Dont care what Steve said
Steves throwing darts at a wall full of names he has come up with so peps will click on his site to sell more burgers.
yjnkdawg
01-07-2023, 01:16 PM
Steves throwing darts at a wall full of names he has come up with so peps will click on his site to sell more burgers.
Agree and I don't guess his cares that. his clown shoe hurt and embarrassed Bobo for no reason other than he has be the top dog. Again i will say 247 was a lot better before that merger, and this clown show just justifies it more.
parabrave
01-07-2023, 01:23 PM
And for the posters who say ZA wants the 3 yrds and a cloud of dust it was discussed the week of the bowl game that he wants the Huepul version of the Air Raid.
msstate7
01-07-2023, 01:29 PM
And for the posters who say ZA wants the 3 yrds and a cloud of dust it was discussed the week of the bowl game that he wants the Huepul version of the Air Raid.
I would love to go up tempo and have a much more balanced attack. This will put more stress on our defense though. Quick scores and up tempo tends to leave your D on the field a lot
Bdawg
01-07-2023, 01:57 PM
I would love to go up tempo and have a much more balanced attack. This will put more stress on our defense though. Quick scores and up tempo tends to leave your D on the field a lot
Well they should be used to it against good teams. We probably possessed it pretty decent on weaker teams but our O disappeared quite often, which left the D on the field a lot too. We were gassed in some 4 th quarters this year! Up tempo that leads to scores is much better and longer possessions than 3 and outs.
And yes, I hope we stay pass happy but incorporate a much more sophisticated run game.
vindastra
01-07-2023, 02:03 PM
And for the posters who say ZA wants the 3 yrds and a cloud of dust it was discussed the week of the bowl game that he wants the Huepul version of the Air Raid.
Hallelujah!!!
WhiskeyPirate
01-07-2023, 02:35 PM
Because when you have only been at one school for your entire time, like every one of ours has, you have very few contacts in the coaching profession and in other parts of the country. So they have to rely on agents. If they stopped listening to agents then they would have nothing to report.
Arnett has no coaching contacts outside of SDSU and his time at State, Leach probably had more coaching contacts and national respect than all but a handful of coaches in the country. That speaks to program building. When you wholesale fire a bunch of good coaches word gets around, coaching is a fraternity. I think Arnett is going to have a hard time attracting a good staff, but that probably doesn’t matter either. The one qualification to coach at State seems to be if you are a Mississippi high school coach good ol boy, not a recipe for national success.
Coursesuper
01-07-2023, 02:42 PM
Arnett has no coaching contacts outside of SDSU and his time at State, Leach probably had more coaching contacts and national respect than all but a handful of coaches in the country. That speaks to program building. When you wholesale fire a bunch of good coaches word gets around, coaching is a fraternity. I think Arnett is going to have a hard time attracting a good staff, but that probably doesn’t matter either. The one qualification to coach at State seems to be if you are a Mississippi high school coach good ol boy, not a recipe for national success.
FFS. You exactly dick about any of this. You are generalizing things to make it an easy target for your argument. Welp guess what you missed again. Coaching is a very very small fraternity, My career was the same, just not that many of us. So if you don?t know someone you do know someone that knows someone. So troll that shit elsewhere.
WhiskeyPirate
01-07-2023, 02:45 PM
FFS. You exactly dick about any of this. You are generalizing things to make it an easy target for your argument. Welp guess what you missed again. Coaching is a very very small fraternity, My career was the same, just not that many of us. So if you don?t know someone you do know someone that knows someone. So troll that shit elsewhere.
Thanks for the unintelligent response. What exactly is untrue ?
Coursesuper
01-07-2023, 02:58 PM
Thanks for the unintelligent response. What exactly is untrue ?
Fvck me I?m just to stupid to hang with a troll as sharp and witty as you. Done here now I should have know better. He everyone give this one a wide berth, special this one.
Homedawg
01-07-2023, 02:59 PM
Arnett has no coaching contacts outside of SDSU and his time at State, Leach probably had more coaching contacts and national respect than all but a handful of coaches in the country. That speaks to program building. When you wholesale fire a bunch of good coaches word gets around, coaching is a fraternity. I think Arnett is going to have a hard time attracting a good staff, but that probably doesn’t matter either. The one qualification to coach at State seems to be if you are a Mississippi high school coach good ol boy, not a recipe for national success.
Welcome back troll
Dawgology
01-07-2023, 03:03 PM
It?s reported on the Scoop that CVA and Bono are/were in discussions, that?s scary cause they usually have good info,
For a halftime show or SBW? That would be cool.
parabrave
01-07-2023, 03:40 PM
Even Neal just said that the offense is pitiful/ Wjoops wrong thread
msstate7
01-07-2023, 04:03 PM
Huge shot!
Jans, get Moore on the court
CoachT14
01-07-2023, 04:09 PM
He wasn't even on the list. At all. Dont care what Steve said
My source says otherwise.
Coach34
01-07-2023, 04:14 PM
Miller is gone barring a change of direction or him getting OC. Rumor is Hughes to TE and Turner back at DL. Only defensive spot after that will be S.
Thought Hopson was gonna coach Safeties?
Homedawg
01-07-2023, 04:14 PM
My source says otherwise.
Well my 2 say he wasn't. Both very close to the situation. I'll take mine over yours.
Coursesuper
01-07-2023, 04:15 PM
Thought Hopson was gonna coach Safeties?
That?s what I heard, Hughes wanted to get off the field.
CoachT14
01-07-2023, 04:17 PM
Well my 2 say he wasn't. Both very close to the situation. I'll take mine over yours.
That’s fine. But it also means you can’t say definitively that he wasn’t. There’s too much smoke that something was going down.
Homedawg
01-07-2023, 04:27 PM
That’s fine. But it also means you can’t say definitively that he wasn’t. There’s too much smoke that something was going down.
If he was then they both lied....
CoachT14
01-07-2023, 04:31 PM
If he wasn't then they both lied....
Or they were just wrong. It happens. My guy could be wrong too. But there’s no denying that something happened yesterday whether it was some weird false rumor or true and it got squashed.
WinningIsRelentless
01-07-2023, 04:43 PM
Or they were just wrong. It happens. My guy could be wrong too. But there’s no denying that something happened yesterday whether it was some weird false rumor or true and it got squashed.
Jimmy sexton happened. He was trying to get his client hired.
RiverCityDawg
01-07-2023, 05:08 PM
Or they were just wrong. It happens. My guy could be wrong too. But there’s no denying that something happened yesterday whether it was some weird false rumor or true and it got squashed.
I can't recall Homedawg ever being wrong. He's said things before that were proven right months before anyone else was saying them.
Cowbell
01-07-2023, 05:14 PM
I can't recall Homedawg ever being wrong. He's said things before that were proven right months before anyone else was saying them.
When it comes to info within the AD, one would be an idiot to argue with homedawg. Especially since Bracky got promoted. 😂
StarkVegasSteve
01-07-2023, 05:14 PM
So to update things: The hire will not be Chris Hatcher or Kevin Johns. Ellis from GSU has gained some steam in the last 24 hours. I have said since the beginning that I thought it would be Shannon Dawson. No inside info just gut feeling.
Dawgface
01-07-2023, 05:20 PM
So to update things: The hire will not be Chris Hatcher or Kevin Johns. Ellis from GSU has gained some steam in the last 24 hours. I have said since the beginning that I thought it would be Shannon Dawson. No inside info just gut feeling.
I watched some of GSU highlights earlier and it looked like an offense most would be happy with. Lot's of passing but they ran the ball a little over 35% of the time. But Dawson would also be a good fit imo.
Homedawg
01-07-2023, 05:20 PM
Or they were just wrong. It happens. My guy could be wrong too. But there’s no denying that something happened yesterday whether it was some weird false rumor or true and it got squashed.
Um, the 2 people im talking to arent wrong. Im not talking to boosters....
Homedawg
01-07-2023, 05:21 PM
When it comes to info within the AD, one would be an idiot to argue with homedawg. Especially since Bracky got promoted.
That's right, talking to him****
StarkVegasSteve
01-07-2023, 05:22 PM
I watched some of GSU highlights earlier and it looked like an offense most would be happy with. Lot's of passing but they ran the ball a little over 35% of the time. But Dawson would also be a good fit imo.
Ellis would be a solid hire. He has been in that tree of very successful WKU coordinators. However, he did have playcalling duties stripped in favor of Kittley
Coach34
01-07-2023, 05:28 PM
When it comes to info within the AD, one would be an idiot to argue with homedawg. Especially since Bracky got promoted.
Homedawg's info he brings is as good as anybody's
Dawgface
01-07-2023, 05:31 PM
Ellis would be a solid hire. He has been in that tree of very successful WKU coordinators. However, he did have playcalling duties stripped in favor of Kittley
Hmmm. Well he got to view that in 2021 and called all the plays in 2022 tho.....right? Working with Kittley hopefully gave him some good experience.
SmokeyDawg
01-07-2023, 05:33 PM
Jimmy sexton happened. He was trying to get his client hired.
Well it turns out he had his client publicly shamed and over half a fan base prepared to jump off the cliff at the thought of hiring him
Commercecomet24
01-07-2023, 05:34 PM
When Homedawg posts something you can take it to the bank. He's not posting opinion or speculation but fact and his sources aren't the 247 board.
CoachT14
01-07-2023, 05:36 PM
Ellis would be a solid hire. He has been in that tree of very successful WKU coordinators. However, he did have playcalling duties stripped in favor of Kittley
His offenses outside of this year have been awful. He is not good.
CoachT14
01-07-2023, 05:37 PM
Um, the 2 people im talking to arent wrong. Im not talking to boosters....
I’m not either. I said mine could be wrong too.
msstate7
01-07-2023, 05:39 PM
Homedawg's info he brings is as good as anybody's
He's as good a source as anyone. When he posts, I pay attention
Really Clark?
01-07-2023, 05:45 PM
Arnett has no coaching contacts outside of SDSU and his time at State, Leach probably had more coaching contacts and national respect than all but a handful of coaches in the country. That speaks to program building. When you wholesale fire a bunch of good coaches word gets around, coaching is a fraternity. I think Arnett is going to have a hard time attracting a good staff, but that probably doesn’t matter either. The one qualification to coach at State seems to be if you are a Mississippi high school coach good ol boy, not a recipe for national success.
Bookmarked for being wrong about Bobo, lying and being a douche
Really Clark?
01-07-2023, 05:47 PM
My source says otherwise.
Bobo was never considered. I and others were saying this over 24 hours ago and then Bruce Feldman announced it later because of erroneous reporting.
Commercecomet24
01-07-2023, 05:58 PM
Bobo was never considered. I was saying this over 24 hours ago and thrn Bruce Feldman announced it later because of erroneous reporting.
This it was never bobo, ever. The only ones believing that were Steve and his minions.
Todd4State
01-07-2023, 06:13 PM
This it was never bobo, ever. The only ones believing that were Steve and his minions.
The ones that think their freak out caused Arnett to go in a different direction? LOL.
Like any coach would base a hire off of message board reaction.
BeardoMSU
01-07-2023, 06:16 PM
The ones that think their freak out caused Arnett to go in a different direction? LOL.
Like any coach would base a hire off of message board reaction.
This! That would be even more of an indictment.
Cowbell
01-07-2023, 06:17 PM
The ones that think their freak out caused Arnett to go in a different direction? LOL.
Like any coach would base a hire off of message board reaction.
I'm old enough to remember when posters on this board said they were used to float ideas and get feedback from within this forum....
yjnkdawg
01-07-2023, 06:20 PM
Well it turns out he had his client publicly shamed and over half a fan base prepared to jump off the cliff at the thought of hiring him
Sexton doing something to embarrass his own client doesn't make any sense. He's smarter than to do something stupid like that. Some on a message board wanted to jump off a cliff,not half the MSU fan base. Sexton didn't cause Bobo to get publicly shamed either. I'll give a hint. Clicks and subscriptions.
Commercecomet24
01-07-2023, 06:30 PM
Sexton doing something to embarrass his own client doesn't make any sense. He's smarter than to do something stupid like that. Some on a message board wanted to jump off a cliff,not half the MSU fan base. Sexton didn't cause Bobo to get publicly shamed either. I'll give a hint. Clicks and subscriptions.
Bingo!
Really Clark?
01-07-2023, 06:34 PM
Sexton doing something to embarrass his own client doesn't make any sense. He's smarter than to do something stupid like that. Some on a message board wanted to jump off a cliff,not half the MSU fan base. Sexton didn't cause Bobo to get publicly shamed either. I'll give a hint. Clicks and subscriptions.
More like trying to piece together OC names from the hire of Friend. That's why he posted Chaney and Bobo on that list. There was no knowledge that we were interested in Bobo because we never were. He was just trying to make an educated guess
Todd4State
01-07-2023, 06:45 PM
This! That would be even more of an indictment.
Some of our fans need to stick to getting the end zones painted and getting the interlocking MSU back.
I definitely don't want fans who were "surprised at how respected Leach was" picking our coaches.
Todd4State
01-07-2023, 06:46 PM
I'm old enough to remember when posters on this board said they were used to float ideas and get feedback from within this forum....
Not me!
Cooterpoot
01-07-2023, 07:02 PM
That?s what I heard, Hughes wanted to get off the field.
False
SmokeyDawg
01-07-2023, 07:05 PM
Sexton doing something to embarrass his own client doesn't make any sense. He's smarter than to do something stupid like that. Some on a message board wanted to jump off a cliff,not half the MSU fan base. Sexton didn't cause Bobo to get publicly shamed either. I'll give a hint. Clicks and subscriptions.
I was just responding to the thought that Sexton had put Bobo's name out there.
Coursesuper
01-07-2023, 07:07 PM
False
Okay thanks.
Cooterpoot
01-07-2023, 07:09 PM
Thought Hopson was gonna coach Safeties?
Haven't heard that but it's possible. He's a good S coach. Or used to be anyway. Has offers but no idea if he leaves/stays.
Cooterpoot
01-07-2023, 07:12 PM
With us waiting til next week on an OC etc, Arnett obviously doesn't know who he's hiring yet. Hopefully he has a good list to talk to next couple days. I'm starting to wonder if we'll ever get an AD and full football staff LOL.
yjnkdawg
01-07-2023, 07:17 PM
He's as good a source as anyone. When he posts, I pay attention
If somebody argues or says Homedawg is wrong on something concerning MSU athletics. they need to get better "sources" and re-evaluate their so called knowledge.
yjnkdawg
01-07-2023, 07:22 PM
With us waiting til next week on an OC etc, Arnett obviously doesn't know who he's hiring yet. Hopefully he has a good list to talk to next couple days. I'm starting to wonder if we'll ever get an AD and full football staff LOL.
A few actually think we are waiting till after the GA/TCU CFC game to announce an OC hire. LOL
CoachT14
01-07-2023, 07:38 PM
A few actually think we are waiting till after the GA/TCU CFC game to announce an OC hire. LOL
Lol. Naw. We just have a coach way in over his head.
Coach34
01-07-2023, 08:07 PM
Lol. Naw. We just have a coach way in over his head.
Bullshit
His hires so far tell me he is right for the job.
TheLostDawg
01-07-2023, 08:10 PM
Bullshit
His hires so far tell me he is right for the job.
Yeah. We can't be mad at him going after KB. We should be mad if he didn't try.
CoachT14
01-07-2023, 08:14 PM
Bullshit
His hires so far tell me he is right for the job.
Agree to disagree. He’s botching the OC hire. Outside of Briles, the names getting traction are garbage. And we are about to be out of the first portal window with no new offensive players.
I will gladly eat crow. But everything that has happened after the bowl game has been one bad thing after the other.
calidawg
01-07-2023, 08:22 PM
Everyone trashing on CZA at this point are garbage and that's coming from someone who was skeptical of the hire.
TheLostDawg
01-07-2023, 08:24 PM
Agree to disagree. He’s botching the OC hire. Outside of Briles, the names getting traction are garbage. And we are about to be out of the first portal window with no new offensive players.
I will gladly eat crow. But everything that has happened after the bowl game has been one bad thing after the other.
We didn't hear anything about KB until contract negotiations other than we had no chance. Let's hope another name is about to come in that's just as promising
Cooterpoot
01-07-2023, 08:24 PM
A few actually think we are waiting till after the GA/TCU CFC game to announce an OC hire. LOL
Coach conference is next few days. Probably has some interviews lined up there. I don't think we're going to get a "known commodity" for OC. We've almost filled the O side already. My guess, it'll be an OC that's got some QB development on his resume. As much as I hated our offense, Im not going to lie, im a little concern about this hire.
William Tecumsah Sherman
01-07-2023, 08:37 PM
Some folks are losing perspective. I?m tbis age, we feel like we need to know everything. The only thing we know for sure is that we made a run at Briles. The Bobo stuff was garbage. Arnett has made good hires IMO so far.
Todd4State
01-07-2023, 08:47 PM
Agree to disagree. He?s botching the OC hire. Outside of Briles, the names getting traction are garbage. And we are about to be out of the first portal window with no new offensive players.
I will gladly eat crow. But everything that has happened after the bowl game has been one bad thing after the other.
The issue is some fans thought that we would just throw money and some known OC and that was all there is to it- they would jump.
But when you're paying a coach 3 million it's hard to go above 1.5 even if the money is "there".
And also established OC's aren't going to be totally impressed with who some MSU fans demand to have as assistants in place- see Bumphis and Friend. They may want to bring their own staff in. Right now we have about half a staff filled out- maybe more on that side of the ball including two o-line coaches which is a pretty important hire for coaches.
Add in a unknown as a head coach with Arnett.
So we're probably going to be looking at guys like Casey Woods that are young and up and comers if I had to guess that aren't necessarily household names that have "some question marks" and some risk. But at least we have a veteran QB and a veteran offensive line plus some talent at WR and RB to work with. We just need to be smart with our scheme and find someone that fits them. If we do that we can have a really good year with even an average OC.
Dawgface
01-07-2023, 09:04 PM
The issue is some fans thought that we would just throw money and some known OC and that was all there is to it- they would jump.
But when you're paying a coach 3 million it's hard to go above 1.5 even if the money is "there".
And also established OC's aren't going to be totally impressed with who some MSU fans demand to have as assistants in place- see Bumphis and Friend. They may want to bring their own staff in. Right now we have about half a staff filled out- maybe more on that side of the ball including two o-line coaches which is a pretty important hire for coaches.
Add in a unknown as a head coach with Arnett.
So we're probably going to be looking at guys like Casey Woods that are young and up and comers if I had to guess that aren't necessarily household names that have "some question marks" and some risk. But at least we have a veteran QB and a veteran offensive line plus some talent at WR and RB to work with. We just need to be smart with our scheme and find someone that fits them. If we do that we can have a really good year with even an average OC.
Agree. At this point it looks like a coach from a lower tier school will be who we go with. Not that's bad....just not a splash hire.
mo7888
01-07-2023, 09:06 PM
So what is our updated Hot Board? The GSU OC... and who else?
Homedawg
01-07-2023, 09:15 PM
If somebody argues or says Homedawg is wrong on something concerning MSU athletics. they need to get better "sources" and re-evaluate their so called knowledge.
I appreciate that. I try to protect my sources and don't say a lot of what I hear. But I promise I don't Post anything that I don't have a confirmed source. W that said, sometimes info changes. Ex, cohen didn't have g henderson as his top pitching coach choice. That was true. But guess what happened. We hired Gary henderson. So when I said we weren't hiring Gary henderson I was to right, until his top choices didn't take the job... and then I wasn't.. But in this case, i trust the info I have that bobo was never ever ever on our list. Rosebowl be damned.
Homedawg
01-07-2023, 09:16 PM
Bullshit
His hires so far tell me he is right for the job.
I agree w this. Doesn't mean he won't fail. Nil, sec. This isn't Alabama. Only two coaches not fired in my lifetime were Mullen and leach. ...
Cooterpoot
01-07-2023, 09:16 PM
So what is our updated Hot Board? The GSU OC... and who else?
I doubt anyone knows who is in consideration if he's headed to the conference to interview.
Homedawg
01-07-2023, 09:18 PM
Agree to disagree. He?s botching the OC hire. Outside of Briles, the names getting traction are garbage. And we are about to be out of the first portal window with no new offensive players.
I will gladly eat crow. But everything that has happened after the bowl game has been one bad thing after the other.
Who is giving you those names???steve? Cause it ain't coming from the football office. This is as tight lipped as I've ever seen
StarkVegasSteve
01-07-2023, 09:18 PM
So what is our updated Hot Board? The GSU OC... and who else?
From the latest update, one of the coaches we are interested in is coaching in the national title game, IT IS NOT GARRETT RILEY AND IT IS NOT MIKE BOBO OR TODD MONKEN. I do not have a singular name but my guess is that it is AJ Ricker or Doug Meacham.
confucius say
01-07-2023, 09:22 PM
Bullshit
His hires so far tell me he is right for the job.
I have to say, if nothing else seeing C34 defend our coach has been refreshing. I'm not use to it 😂😂
mo7888
01-07-2023, 09:23 PM
From the latest update, one of the coaches we are interested in is coaching in the national title game, IT IS NOT GARRETT RILEY AND IT IS NOT MIKE BOBO OR TODD MONKEN. I do not have a singular name but my guess is that it is AJ Ricker or Doug Meacham.
Thanks... Ricker would be my choice between those two...he's probably someone we could get too..
Coach34
01-07-2023, 09:25 PM
Agree to disagree. He?s botching the OC hire. Outside of Briles, the names getting traction are garbage. And we are about to be out of the first portal window with no new offensive players.
I will gladly eat crow. But everything that has happened after the bowl game has been one bad thing after the other.
He's not botching anything. No need to rush the hire. Make the right hire? everything else will fall into place
Dawgface
01-07-2023, 09:25 PM
Who is giving you those names???steve? Cause it ain't coming from the football office. This is as tight lipped as I've ever seen
That's good to hear. I'm going into hibernation until a person has been announced by Feldman. Really no reason to just guess.
Commercecomet24
01-07-2023, 09:28 PM
Who is giving you those names???steve? Cause it ain't coming from the football office. This is as tight lipped as I've ever seen
This. The ranks have closed and there is radio silence. I'm glad they've done it too.
CadaverDawg
01-07-2023, 09:29 PM
Who is giving you those names???steve? Cause it ain't coming from the football office. This is as tight lipped as I've ever seen
This makes me happy, because it's good news from a great source.
Lord McBuckethead
01-07-2023, 09:34 PM
Shawn McVey. Get it done Bracky
TrapGame
01-07-2023, 09:55 PM
Thanks... Ricker would be my choice between those two...he's probably someone we could get too..
Just Googled Ricker. Nice little resume and seems like someone Sonny Dykes has been mentoring for a few years. This looks like it would be a good hire if it is him.
CadaverDawg
01-07-2023, 09:55 PM
Shawn McVey. Get it done Bracky
Haha I was considering posting this when I saw he may be fired
Homedawg
01-07-2023, 09:58 PM
Haha I was considering posting this when I saw he may be fired
Why not? People think we can get kingsbury... smdh heck, we couldn't get him to be the head coach much less OC!!
Commercecomet24
01-07-2023, 10:01 PM
Why not? People think we can get kingsbury... smdh heck, we couldn't get him to be the head coach much less OC!!
I kinda like Eric Bienemy. Very creative oc. Reckon we can pry him from kc,lol?
Cooterpoot
01-07-2023, 10:03 PM
Seems to be some heavy smokescreening going on.
Really Clark?
01-07-2023, 10:03 PM
I kinda like Eric Bienemy. Very creative oc. Reckon we can pry him from kc,lol?
Hearing for $3 MIL we can get him before the playoffs start. We need him here to recruit before signing day.
Coach34
01-07-2023, 10:06 PM
Why not? People think we can get kingsbury... smdh heck, we couldn't get him to be the head coach much less OC!!
Exactly- Kliff will make more being fired and taking a year off than becoming State's OC. He dgaf
Commercecomet24
01-07-2023, 10:08 PM
Hearing for $3 MIL we can get him before the playoffs start. We need him here to recruit before signing day.
I say we go for it lol!
Coursesuper
01-07-2023, 10:08 PM
Who is giving you those names???steve? Cause it ain't coming from the football office. This is as tight lipped as I've ever seen
That is the truth. Silence.
Really Clark?
01-07-2023, 10:09 PM
I say we go for it lol!
All In Baby!!!
DesotoDog1967
01-07-2023, 11:47 PM
A J Ricker?
TNDawg35
01-07-2023, 11:54 PM
Rumor on another board is that the whole Bobo thing was a smoke screen to lure out a rat and it worked to perfection by Arnette and staff. Said Arnette was not happy the Briles stuff leaked like it did so early. Now that may have been Sexton, but someone else had a hand in it. There was true intrest in both parties. There is a reason Ol DreadyLocks has been so quiet today… Take it as you will…
CadaverDawg
01-08-2023, 12:19 AM
Rumor on another board is that the whole Bobo thing was a smoke screen to lure out a rat and it worked to perfection by Arnette and staff. There is a reason Ol DreadyLocks has been so quiet today… Take it as you will…
One can only hope so, Jack. Back to you.
- John Carrero
(If somehow this were proven true, I could not be more on board with Arnett)
Homedawg
01-08-2023, 12:28 AM
Rumor on another board is that the whole Bobo thing was a smoke screen to lure out a rat and it worked to perfection by Arnette and staff. There is a reason Ol DreadyLocks has been so quiet today… Take it as you will…
Well- it wasn't stopped but anyway.... . But dread locks gaslighted two more threads. Including his, we might have eyes on a guy from the championship game. ...... no. There is no Santa clause... nobody from championship game.
Commercecomet24
01-08-2023, 12:32 AM
Well- it wasn't stopped but anyway.... . But dread locks gaslighted two more threads. Including his, we might have eyes on a guy from the championship game. ...... no. There is no Santa clause... nobody from championship game.
Sure wish Steve would find him another gig and leave State alone.
TNDawg35
01-08-2023, 02:30 AM
Sure wish Steve would find him another gig and leave State alone.
This thread is brought to you by Bulldog Burger Company. We’re the cool kids meat, MEAT…
Dawgface
01-08-2023, 08:03 AM
Sure wish Steve would find him another gig and leave State alone.
Me too.
confucius say
01-08-2023, 09:07 AM
Being a little too hard on Steve here.
Also, ZA and every person in our admin knows if you tell Steve/Paul/ Robbie info then expect it to be leaked. That's the hole point of telling them.
Pancho
01-08-2023, 09:17 AM
who mentioned Briles name to Steve?
Todd4State
01-08-2023, 09:23 AM
Rumor on another board is that the whole Bobo thing was a smoke screen to lure out a rat and it worked to perfection by Arnette and staff. Said Arnette was not happy the Briles stuff leaked like it did so early. Now that may have been Sexton, but someone else had a hand in it. There was true intrest in both parties. There is a reason Ol DreadyLocks has been so quiet today… Take it as you will…
Right...LOL.
StarkVegasSteve
01-08-2023, 09:25 AM
Being a little too hard on Steve here.
Also, ZA and every person in our admin knows if you tell Steve/Paul/ Robbie info then expect it to be leaked. That's the hole point of telling them.
Yea but they did not want it leaked. They wanted to keep this one close to the vest, unfortunately with some of the people we now have on staff that will be almost impossible.
confucius say
01-08-2023, 09:35 AM
Yea but they did not want it leaked. They wanted to keep this one close to the vest, unfortunately with some of the people we now have on staff that will be almost impossible.
Well if they didn't want it leaked Then the Rat is the person who told it to Steve, not Steve.
huffy
01-08-2023, 09:46 AM
Being a little too hard on Steve here.
Also, ZA and every person in our admin knows if you tell Steve/Paul/ Robbie info then expect it to be leaked. That's the hole point of telling them.
If it was any other beat guy, I'd agree with you on being too harsh... but Steve does nothing but find ways to use the university and his connections to fuel his own ego. His holier than thou attitude is a bit much for a 17'n beat writer.
StarkVegasSteve
01-08-2023, 09:53 AM
Well if they didn't want it leaked Then the Rat is the person who told it to Steve, not Steve.
There's blame to go around on both sides. I do agree that the staff member, I won't out him on a public forum but I know who it is, shouldn't have told him anything but I also think Steve needs to know when to hold stuff and when to post it. He runs to GP every time someone gives him any kind of scoop and posts it like a look at me and what I found everyone tell me how awesome I am.
If the KB stuff taught him anything it should've taught him to shut the hell up when we're in negotiations with a coach.
BlackSailsDawg
01-08-2023, 10:03 AM
I think Meacham could be the hire. And I would be ok with that one.
Cooterpoot
01-08-2023, 10:10 AM
I think Meacham could be the hire. And I would be ok with that one.
No interest there at all. You guys need to stop listening to Rosey. He won't know much faster than the rest of us.
Coursesuper
01-08-2023, 10:15 AM
Sure wish Steve would find him another gig and leave State alone.
Can I get an Amen.
BlackSailsDawg
01-08-2023, 10:18 AM
No interest there at all. You guys need to stop listening to Rosey. He won't know much faster than the rest of us.
Where did you get that there is no interest?
StarkVegasSteve
01-08-2023, 10:39 AM
No interest there at all. You guys need to stop listening to Rosey. He won't know much faster than the rest of us.
There's some interest. A lot more than there is in Kevin Johns or Chris Hatcher....of which there is none. In no way saying that will be hire, but both Meacham and Ricker are being looked at.
yjnkdawg
01-08-2023, 11:44 AM
Sure wish Steve would find him another gig and leave State alone.
I agree CC . What would be best for MSU athletics would be for him to find another gig or retire and Paul hopefully buy him out. I feel sorry for Paul having to put up with all that arrogance. And change the name to something like Bulldawg247 or maybe even Dawgsbite247. I know one member over there who has better sources than Steve does and he doesn't throw something on the wall to see if it will stick.
StarkVegasSteve
01-08-2023, 11:48 AM
I agree CC . What would be best for MSU athletics would be for him to find another gig or retire and Paul hopefully buy him out. I feel sorry for Paul having to put up with all that arrogance. And change the name to something like Bulldawg247 or maybe even Dawgsbite247. I know one member over there who has better sources than Steve does and he doesn't throw something on the wall to see if it will stick.
100% agree there. I had hoped after the first book that Steve would step away from reporting and be an author full time. That would've allowed Paul to take over completely once Gene stepped away. Paul, although he gets into pissing matches with a few posters over there, is pretty professional and his info is usually pretty good.
Cowbell
01-08-2023, 12:12 PM
Being a little too hard on Steve here.
Also, ZA and every person in our admin knows if you tell Steve/Paul/ Robbie info then expect it to be leaked. That's the hole point of telling them.
Yep and steve will leak info that they aren't suppose to at times abd leak even more info that isn't true.
Homedawg
01-08-2023, 12:25 PM
Yep and steve will leak info that they aren't suppose to at times abd leak even more info that isn't true.
Yeah like his fabricated list of candidates he put out there after Briles said no.
yjnkdawg
01-08-2023, 04:18 PM
Yeah like his fabricated list of candidates he put out there after Briles said no.
I think the crappiest thing he did was say there was going to be an assistant coach hired today and you should be able to connect the dots to see who the new OC is once the assistant coach is announced. He set the fire and then he let the members take it and run with it. No use embarrassing Bobo like that but I guess he doesn't care.
Todd4State
01-08-2023, 04:22 PM
100% agree there. I had hoped after the first book that Steve would step away from reporting and be an author full time. That would've allowed Paul to take over completely once Gene stepped away. Paul, although he gets into pissing matches with a few posters over there, is pretty professional and his info is usually pretty good.
That was never going to happen because Gene promised Genespage to Steve long before they merged with 24/7.
ZedFedder
01-08-2023, 04:33 PM
Steve is emotional, and he takes things personally. Those two things don’t tend to help someone in his line of work. He is a really, REALLY good writer, though. If he went into the book side of things, I think he’d be better off.
Leroy Jenkins
01-08-2023, 04:34 PM
When CML died Rosie was on 2-3 national CFB podcasts being interviewed about Leach. He always found a way to work in that he and Mike were authors and he had written several books. To me it's tacky, or as the kids say cringey, to hear him peddling his book in an interview about Leach.
Cooterpoot
01-08-2023, 07:19 PM
There's some interest. A lot more than there is in Kevin Johns or Chris Hatcher....of which there is none. In no way saying that will be hire, but both Meacham and Ricker are being looked at.
Neither of those is being hired by Arnett, Neither. Anyone thinking that's the case is mistaken. We'd have to hire Co-OCs. One has never called plays and one was only successful with a Co OC.
Arnett isn't stupid. He won't see them at the conference either. Neither are really QB guys, one is an OL guy which we don't need. There's just nothing there.
BeardoMSU
01-08-2023, 07:43 PM
is a really, REALLY good writer, though. If he went into the book side of things, I think he?d be better off.
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/06/lol.gif
Nah...
parabrave
01-08-2023, 07:56 PM
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/06/lol.gif
Nah...
The Camp Town Ladies/
msudawglb
01-08-2023, 08:23 PM
Can a moderator please delete that Bobo thread? It?s a bad look.
Coach34
01-08-2023, 08:41 PM
Steve is a solid reporter that covers State. Thats his job. He has good info more times than not. With Arnett locking things down- nobody has info right now.
Goldendawg
01-08-2023, 09:52 PM
Steve is emotional, and he takes things personally. Those two things don?t tend to help someone in his line of work. He is a really, REALLY good writer, though. If he went into the book side of things, I think he?d be better off.
His first book was pretty good and he had helped bring down Freeze. His second book had a very misleading title was was very meh.
Cooterpoot
01-08-2023, 11:19 PM
Steve is a solid reporter that covers State. Thats his job. He has good info more times than not. With Arnett locking things down- nobody has info right now.
His major source is now at AU.
Todd4State
01-08-2023, 11:24 PM
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/06/lol.gif
Nah...
Best movie of all time!
Todd4State
01-08-2023, 11:26 PM
His major source is now at AU.
LOL. I remember one time some Ole Miss fan somehow hacked into Steve's DM on his Twitter account and posted it on Twitter. It appeared from that Scott Stricklin who was the AD at the time was the one feeding him a LOT of his info.
I was a little bit surprised at how much recruiting detail our AD knew to be honest with you.
Commercecomet24
01-08-2023, 11:32 PM
His major source is now at AU.
Yep.
LibraryDawg
01-10-2023, 09:23 PM
Hadad stated on Sportstalk that Johns was interviewed this week.
Homedawg
01-10-2023, 09:29 PM
His major source is now at AU.
Fact
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