2023 MSU FOOTBALL RECRUITING Discussion Thread

[HancockCountyDog]

Arnett is there now.

Would love for him to skip that LSU visit.

[Coursesuper]

Chris Pearson from orange beach is a name to remember..
Don’t be surprised if we offer and he commits .. very underrated

Gulf Shores High?

[Leroy Jenkins]

Would love for him to skip that LSU visit.

Arnett has been there pretty much all day and he's going with Smith to his younger sister's BBall game this evening. So we are putting in the effort. Hope it's enough.

[ZedFedder]

Did anyone watch the MS AlL ASG today?

From what I gathered, Suntarine Perkins is legit.

[KOdawg1]

Did anyone watch the MS AlL ASG today?

From what I gathered, Suntarine Perkins is legit.

Hopefully he goes to Bama

[Leroy Jenkins]

Did anyone watch the MS AlL ASG today?

From what I gathered, Suntarine Perkins is legit.

Watch that 3a title game highlight, it's the Perkins show. He deserves every one of those 4*, maybe more.

[ZedFedder]

Spurrier with the eyes emoji. Someone must be in the boat.

[SmokeyDawg]

Spurrier with the eyes emoji. Someone must be in the boat.
OL Amari Smith from Brookhaven.

[Travelingdawg]

Amari Smith, offensive lineman from Brookhaven.

[yjnkdawg]

Delete- Already answered.

[Commercecomet24]

Amari Smith is a very good get!

[Cooterpoot]

Our commit Hinton from Hburg had 3 sacks in the all star game. He and Perkins were the two best performers.
Smith is another Diamond in the rough.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

The safety from Vicksburg Jaleel Fleming looked pretty good too in MS/AL game. He is uncommitted.

[Saltydog]

Gulf Shores High?

Hud's at GSH......I'm sure that doesn't hurt..........

[HancockCountyDog]

Our commit Hinton from Hburg had 3 sacks in the all star game. He and Perkins were the two best performers.
Smith is another Diamond in the rough.

Totally agree.

Smith feels like a traditional 2-3 year starter after a redshirt year.

Looks like Kelley Jones really blew up this week, I?m assuming we hold onto him.

I wish we had a shot at the WR from Ridgeland, kid is a difference maker.

[Coursesuper]

Hud's at GSH......I'm sure that doesn't hurt..........

OB has a high school now. It?s on Canal Rd with the middle school.

[Cooterpoot]

The problem we've got in recruiting (offensively) is we rotate so much at WR and never throw deep, plus give our RBs way too many touches on the receiving end, and not enough in the running game. So, we struggle to attract top WRs and RBs. We also don't put skill guys in the league much and neither has Mike Leach. Things got to change a little if we want to boost recruiting.

[TorpedoIPA]

Eric Taylor ......looks like we might get him according to Crystal Ball. 6-6 290......DL. Has build for OL also. 4 stars !

[TorpedoIPA]

The problem we've got in recruiting (offensively) is we rotate so much at WR and never throw deep, plus give our RBs way too many touches on the receiving end, and not enough in the running game. So, we struggle to attract top WRs and RBs. We also don't put skill guys in the league much and neither has Mike Leach. Things got to change a little if we want to boost recruiting.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/mike-leach-sounds-off-on-the-concept-of-a-balanced-offense-thats-50-percent-stupid/

[KOdawg1]

Commit list on page 1 of this thread has been updated with a breakdown by position and links to their profiles.

OL recruiting has been pretty good this year.

[Goldendawg]

Why is RB Jeffery Pittman from Hinds CC still not ranked? Watched his highlight film and he looked really good. Also noticed several other CC players we are pursuing are not ranked, common issue, timing, behind in evaluations? Hail state!

[TaleofTwoDogs]

High School athletes are typically ranked separate from JC players. Here is ESPN's top 50+ JC list. Look up "ESPN 2023 Junior College"

[Bothrops]

Why is RB Jeffery Pittman from Hinds CC still not ranked? Watched his highlight film and he looked really good. Also noticed several other CC players we are pursuing are not ranked, common issue, timing, behind in evaluations? Hail state!

They don’t do it anymore. In some cases they will go back after a class is finalized to look at a guy and come up with a rating, but only under recommendation. An 84 or 85 is not a real rating, it's a stamp. Their objective is to cover the top 10-15 percent of prospects, which is where they make their money. There's probably 400-500 kids that don't get any real analysis every year.

[HancockCountyDog]

They don’t do it anymore. In some cases they will go back after a class is finalized to look at a guy and come up with a rating, but only under recommendation. An 84 or 85 is not a real rating, it's a stamp. Their objective is to cover the top 10-15 percent of prospects, which is where they make their money. There's probably 400-500 kids that don't get any real analysis every year.

With the transfer portal juco recruiting has become non existent on a P5 level. I think its an area we should be able to take advantage of because people aren't really recruiting them any more.

[Goldendawg]

They don’t do it anymore. In some cases they will go back after a class is finalized to look at a guy and come up with a rating, but only under recommendation. An 84 or 85 is not a real rating, it's a stamp. Their objective is to cover the top 10-15 percent of prospects, which is where they make their money. There's probably 400-500 kids that don't get any real analysis every year.

WR commit Bellazar is ranked 10th in the nation, 2nd at his position, and 5th in the state for a pitiful .8619 and others in the top 50 CC not even ranked. Rankings are to get clinks from Big boys with the most fans.

[MetEdDawg]

Khamauri Rogers in the portal.

Have to think we will be solidly in the game with him.

[KOdawg1]

Khamauri Rogers in the portal.

Have to think we will be solidly in the game with him.

Yep. Coming home where he should have been in the first place.

[Westdawg]

Khamauri Rogers in the portal.

Have to think we will be solidly in the game with him.

Would be a HUGE get. I?m gonna say it loudly - we need to set up a strong pipeline into Holmes Central High.

[HancockCountyDog]

Would be a HUGE get. I?m gonna say it loudly - we need to set up a strong pipeline into Holmes Central High.

Pretty sure he is ours if we want him.

[KOdawg1]

Would be a HUGE get. I?m gonna say it loudly - we need to set up a strong pipeline into Holmes Central High.

If/when we get Khamauri, that'll be 3 players from there.

Rogers, Ellington, Joseph Head

[Matt3467]

Looks like Parsons for some reason has been trending downward on the rankings and Creed has been shooting up. Creed is now per 247 ranked #134 nationally. I'm excited for both to play here.

[Westdawg]

If/when we get Khamauri, that'll be 3 players from there.

Rogers, Ellington, Joseph Head

There are some monsters coming up the next couple years, too.

[HancockCountyDog]

Any word on Kelley Jones - he is set to visit the bears this weekend - he showed out at the AL/MS game/practices this past weekend.

Any word on WR transfers? That is the biggest need right now in my opinion.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Looks like Parsons for some reason has been trending downward on the rankings and Creed has been shooting up. Creed is now per 247 ranked #134 nationally. I'm excited for both to play here.

https://twitter.com/ellie_shreve/status/1602774998045057024?s=20&t=vawMHk1Oux5vLILGcOyleg

[Travelingdawg]

Rogers commits.

[HancockCountyDog]

Rogers commits.

Nice - perfect pick up - 4 to play 4.

[KOdawg1]

McBath doing work

[Commercecomet24]

Rogers commits.

Very good get!

[SPDawgs]

Decoldest Crawford (former 3 star from Louisiana) retweeted khamauri Rodgers commitment tweet with ��. Tulu has been recruiting him as well. Any word on this?

[Cooterpoot]

Picked up two DBs. Arnett already rolling!

[Leroy Jenkins]

Picked up two DBs. Arnett already rolling!

McBath

[Westdawg]

Need to hold on to Kelley. He?s gonna be a great one. He?s gonna end up being an answer for that hybrid DB we use in the secondary. I?ve seen him up close a few times, he will easily put on 20+ lbs once on campus. 6?4 and 190+ lbs is about where he should end up in a year or so.

[Todd4State]

We need to get a new OC in ASAP now.

I'm sure Ole Miss is telling our recruits and guys in the portal that Arnett is going to run the wishbone.

[HancockCountyDog]

We need to get a new OC in ASAP now.

I'm sure Ole Miss is telling our recruits and guys in the portal that Arnett is going to run the wishbone.

I'm not worried about the bears, it looks like only dude we are fighting over now is Kelley Jones.

Freezus is the one trying to grab both recruits and players on the roster.

[Cooterpoot]

Jones is locked down. No fight there.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Kelly Jones cancelled his visit to the Sharks.

[SPDawgs]

Luke Evans 3 ⭐️ DE out of Hollywood Florida commits to the DAWGS. Arnett working hard

[SmokeyDawg]

Looks like we picked up another cb from Hollywood FL. Luke Evans. Previously committed to Cincinnati. Any insight?

[ZedFedder]

He is as highly rated as Pollock.

[SPDawgs]

Luke Evans 3 ⭐️ DE out of Hollywood Florida commits to the DAWGS. Arnett working hard

CB not DE my bad

[KOdawg1]

2 borderline 4 star CBs from the high school ranks and 2 former 4 star corners from the portal.

Pretty damn stout

[Maverick91]

We need some dline soon. You guys know of any coming down the pipe? I love the secondary recruiting.

[Cooterpoot]

We need some dline soon. You guys know of any coming down the pipe? I love the secondary recruiting.

Look for something on that the next few days. With signing day next week, could see movement there. If not, good chance some other names start popping up.

[Maverick91]

Look for something on that the next few days. With signing day next week, could see movement there. If not, good chance some other names start popping up.

Good to hear!

[HancockCountyDog]

Kelly Jones cancelled his visit to the Sharks.

I've been told a big thank you to the BI for making that trip not happen.

Getting things done.

[Leroy Jenkins]

McBath is figuring this crootin thing out.

https://twitter.com/pollockbrice/status/1604138174338371585?s=46&t=lONv5FFb7qDqqbiSdrVF-g

[MetEdDawg]

Class is currently ranked 28th on 24/7.

That's not bad and we've still got a few guys we are on that could push us Top 25. Isaac Smith would be massive for this class. Adding him would put us as 24 right now.

Any thoughts on Ashton Porter, the DL from Texas that visited last weekend?

[Cooterpoot]

Porter had been dropped last I heard

[Maverick91]

Anything crazy for tomorrow? How we looking?

[Tough Dawg]

I?d say Isaac is leaning toward LSU. Not 100%. We shall see.

[KOdawg1]

Caleb Bryant commits

[ZedFedder]

The crystal ball is pretty much all LSU for Isaac Smith. Yet, he has been to MSU triple the amount he has been anywhere else. It feels like if he does go to LSU, it may be for NIL. It wouldn’t surprise me if he becomes next year’s Khamauri Rogers. We shall see!

Like the Caleb Bryant commit.

[HancockCountyDog]

Caleb Bryant commits

What is the story on him?

I had several people tell me that he was on the clock and not the other way around.

My concern based on the size/speed ratio on him is that he looks a little small to play DT and I'm not sure he is fast enough for DE. Anyone know what we plan to do with him?

[HancockCountyDog]

The crystal ball is pretty much all LSU for Isaac Smith. Yet, he has been to MSU triple the amount he has been anywhere else. It feels like if he does go to LSU, it may be for NIL. It wouldn’t surprise me if he becomes next year’s Khamauri Rogers. We shall see!

I wouldn't worry about the crystal ball stuff, I like our chances.

He is a difference maker at safety.

[Westdawg]

What is the story on him?

I had several people tell me that he was on the clock and not the other way around.

My concern based on the size/speed ratio on him is that he looks a little small to play DT and I'm not sure he is fast enough for DE. Anyone know what we plan to do with him?

He?s plenty fast enough. He?s got a FAST first step. Used hands well to shed blocks. Deceptively faster than most think. And the thing I really like about him - he?s not got ?bad? weight like a lot of DTs have. He will put a solid 25 lbs on in his first couple years.

[HancockCountyDog]

He?s plenty fast enough. He?s got a FAST first step. Used hands well to shed blocks. Deceptively faster than most think. And the thing I really like about him - he?s not got ?bad? weight like a lot of DTs have. He will put a solid 25 lbs on in his first couple years.

So DT not DE?

[Bothrops]

I?d say Isaac is leaning toward LSU. Not 100%. We shall see.

I don't think so, but I think they get him.

[KOdawg1]

Joe Crocker decommits

[Westdawg]

So DT not DE?
He should still be able to play DE in the 3-3-5 at 275-280.

[Westdawg]

Joe Crocker decommits
What?s the story there?
- No more Leach?
- worried Miller is going to be gone?
- big instate push (my guess) to go to Tenn?

[KOdawg1]

What?s the story there?
- No more Leach?
- worried Miller is going to be gone?
- big instate push (my guess) to go to Tenn?

I think he's just hesitant with the coaching change.

Hopefully Miller isn't going anywhere because he's killing it.

[Westdawg]

I think he's just hesitant with the coaching change.

Hopefully Miller isn't going anywhere because he's killing it.

If we were only allowed one coach on the offensive side to keep, it would be Miller all the way for me. He has really impressed me the past couple seasons now.

[Todd4State]

I wouldn't worry about the crystal ball stuff, I like our chances.

He is a difference maker at safety.

LSU think that they are getting everyone they want.

[Saltydog]

The crystal ball is pretty much all LSU for Isaac Smith. Yet, he has been to MSU triple the amount he has been anywhere else. It feels like if he does go to LSU, it may be for NIL. It wouldn?t surprise me if he becomes next year?s Khamauri Rogers. We shall see!

Like the Caleb Bryant commit.

Yep, he hangs out with our guys but he's likely headed to BR from what I'm hearing. I'd say 75-25 at this point at best for us.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Hes got a chance to start his Freshman year at MSU. At LSU he would be just another signee.

[Bothrops]

Hes got a chance to start his Freshman year at MSU. At LSU he would be just another signee.

This is true but.......

[HancockCountyDog]

Joe Crocker decommits

His choice or ours?

I'm hearing it was ours.

[Cooterpoot]

Yep, he hangs out with our guys but he's likely headed to BR from what I'm hearing. I'd say 75-25 at this point at best for us.

75-25 us

[Saltydog]

75-25 us

I hope so but he's made no bones that NIL is important and that bothers me.....He and his parents loved Leach and they like CZA too.....

[TorpedoIPA]

What is the story on Gabe Cavazos ? Did he seem destined to get playing time here or not ?

[HancockCountyDog]

What is the story on Gabe Cavazos ? Did he seem destined to get playing time here or not ?

No - Nice kid, some kids just aren't built for the grind of being in the SEC. It is not for the faint of heart.

Best for everyone that he moved on, I hope he finds a landing spot.

[ZedFedder]

PJ with a CB for MSU for Isaac Smith.

[HancockCountyDog]

PJ with a CB for MSU for Isaac Smith.

That is what I'm hearing as well.

[msu15]

PJ with a CB for MSU for Isaac Smith.

What a job by our staff if that holds

[Leroy Jenkins]

75-25 us

Its a done deal.

Smith to State.

[HancockCountyDog]

Its a done deal.

Smith to State.

Great job BI and staff.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Great job BI and staff.

Barring some all night long Tee Shepherd phone call. *

[RisperDawg]

No - Nice kid, some kids just aren't built for the grind of being in the SEC. It is not for the faint of heart.

Best for everyone that he moved on, I hope he finds a landing spot.

This is the guy that got homesick shortly after arriving on campus, right? He spent some time away and then came back? If so, I'm glad he gave it a shot. Hopefully it works out for him in the long-run.

[Leroy Jenkins]

This is the guy that got homesick shortly after arriving on campus, right? He spent some time away and then came back? If so, I'm glad he gave it a shot. Hopefully it works out for him in the long-run.

Yeah me too. I guess he got over the homesickness. Southern Miss is double the distance to Lake Cormorant than S'ville.

[ZedFedder]

PJ with a CB for MSU for Isaac Smith.

Steve Wiltfong switches his to MSU as well.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Yeah me too. I guess he got over the homesickness. Southern Miss is double the distance to Lake Cormorant than S'ville.

He is not a geography major, but his real concern is the same for all other 19 year olds young men.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

He is not a geography major, but his real concern is the same for all other 19 year olds, what is between a certain girls legs. I would be willing to guess.

I doubt he ever plays a down of football again.

[Cooterpoot]

Great closing month by the staff. Especially considering Leach passing. Hard to say anything negative about it all. Now, hopefully Zavion is back on board next couple weeks.

[Commercecomet24]

Great closing month by the staff. Especially considering Leach passing. Hard to say anything negative about it all. Now, hopefully Zavion is back on board next couple weeks.

They really have done a bang up job. They've held the class together and added a couple of good pieces. Zach already doing great work. Yes, let's get Zavion back.

[Vandelay Industries]

What are the chances Zavion comes back? Seems like LSU has passed on him

[Cooterpoot]

What are the chances Zavion comes back? Seems like LSU has passed on him

Pretty decent chance. I think he's talked to the coaches about it.

[Bothrops]

Massive hawl!! This staff has earned it boys!

[Commercecomet24]

Pretty decent chance. I think he's talked to the coaches about it.

I've heard it's pretty much up to Zach at this but Cooter you have better inside info on this stuff than me, you heard similar?

[DEDawg]

Good class but concerning this is I think the 4th year in a row we haven?t been able to sign any of the top 3 in state. I think the last one was Forbes? 2018 we had the sweep and years before that we got Jeffery Simmons, Chris Jones, Jamal Peters types in those top 3 in state. Got to find a way to start getting 1 or 2 of them each year

[KOdawg1]

Very solid class. Very well rounded and fills positions of need. Would've liked a little more star power but it wasn't a great year in-state. Plus I think we've got some guys that are underrated. Our average rating should be higher than 5 year average.

I'll update the list on page 1 shortly.

[yjnkdawg]

Good class but concerning this is I think the 4th year in a row we haven?t been able to sign any of the top 3 in state. I think the last one was Forbes? 2018 we had the sweep and years before that we got Jeffery Simmons, Chris Jones, Jamal Peters types in those top 3 in state. Got to find a way to start getting 1 or 2 of them each year


You need to realize that some players just grow up cheering for OM or MSU, and they usually will sign with that particular school unless they go out of state. Concerning the No. 1 player, Suntarine Perkins, we never had a chance with him. Too many OM people in his ears at Raleigh to go elsewhere. Just like Donte Moncrief and Woodrow Hamilton were always going to go to OM. Also just because a player is rated as the 10th best player or so in MS in high school football. doesn't mean that he can't end up being in the top three in college.

[DEDawg]

You need to realize that some players just grow up cheering for OM or MSU, and they usually will sign with that particular school unless they go out of state. Concerning the No. 1 player, Suntarine Perkins, we never had a chance with him. Too many OM people in his ears at Raleigh to go elsewhere. Just like Donte Moncrief and Woodrow Hamilton were always going to go to OM. Also just because a player is rated as the 10th best player or so in MS in high school football. doesn't mean that he can't end up being in the top three in college.

Nah this is fallacy. Of course the 10th best player can end up being great in college. That has nothing to do with signing the top in state, go get those guys too. Suntarine going to OM fine, but we need to get 1 or 2 of the top 3 in state every year. Go get it done, none of this I grew up an OM fan BS. 1/2 out of 3 of the top in state is not a crazy goal and should be achievable every year.

[NCDawg]

You need to realize that some players just grow up cheering for OM or MSU, and they usually will sign with that particular school unless they go out of state. Concerning the No. 1 player, Suntarine Perkins, we never had a chance with him. Too many OM people in his ears at Raleigh to go elsewhere. Just like Donte Moncrief and Woodrow Hamilton were always going to go to OM. Also just because a player is rated as the 10th best player or so in MS in high school football. doesn't mean that he can't end up being in the top three in college.

We don't have any people in Raleigh that can "get in his ears"?

[Commercecomet24]

We don't have any people in Raleigh that can "get in his ears"?

We have some but unfortunately the Holder family that owns Hol-Mac always have some nice gifts for the Raleigh players and have substantial influence there.

[Cooterpoot]

Good class but concerning this is I think the 4th year in a row we haven?t been able to sign any of the top 3 in state. I think the last one was Forbes? 2018 we had the sweep and years before that we got Jeffery Simmons, Chris Jones, Jamal Peters types in those top 3 in state. Got to find a way to start getting 1 or 2 of them each year

If you don't believe Isaac Smith is top three in MS, I can't help you. He's better than Dowdell. I'll be a little surprised if Dowdell plays much at Oregon.

[662dawg]

If you don't believe Isaac Smith is top three in MS, I can't help you. He's better than Dowdell. I'll be a little surprised if Dowdell plays much at Oregon.

Smith is the best player in Mississippi. He's an unreal talent. I've seen him play since the 7th grade. From film, Perkins is a close second tho. Isaac will have the best College & Pro career than any other Mississippi recruit in '23. Bookmark this.

[DEDawg]

If you don't believe Isaac Smith is top three in MS, I can't help you. He's better than Dowdell. I'll be a little surprised if Dowdell plays much at Oregon.

Still not the point. We should be locking up 1/2 of the top 3 ranked in state players every single year. ON TOP of the Isaac Smiths or whoever we believe is the best player

[662dawg]

Still not the point. We should be locking up 1/2 of the top 3 ranked in state players every single year. ON TOP of the Isaac Smiths or whoever we believe is the best player

What if our staff did get THEIR top 3 instate players according to their own evaluations?

[DEDawg]

What if our staff did get THEIR top 3 instate players according to their own evaluations?

Then excellent job. Go get 1/2 of the top 3 ranked in state players as well. I really do not know how I can make this any clearer.

[msu15]

I really do not know how I can make this any clearer.

I do, just stop talking.

[DEDawg]

I do, just stop talking.

Levity is not your strong suit, but it was an attempt I guess.

[662dawg]

Then excellent job. Go get 1/2 of the top 3 ranked in state players as well. I really do not know how I can make this any clearer.

I mean who's top 3 are we going by? The 50 recruiting services? Clarion ledger? Daily journal? Sports illustrated?

I know Isaac Smith was this staffs #1 priority instate. So we got #1. It should excite you to know that we got the #1 player according to the staff, right?

[BrunswickDawg]

Then excellent job. Go get 1/2 of the top 3 ranked in state players as well. I really do not know how I can make this any clearer.

We got half of the Top 25 in-state players (based on247 and On3). With OM, Bama, LSU, AU, FSU all within a short distance we will never consistently get 1/2 of the top 3. Should it be a goal? Yes. Will it happen regularly? History has shown it won't.

[Ari Gold]

I do, just stop talking.

Excellent

[MrCoachKlein]

I do, just stop talking.

Lol, this is like pro football fans saying a team didn't draft the best player without seeing the teams board because some moron beat writer at ESPN had them ranked lower than other guys.

[DEDawg]

I mean who's top 3 are we going by? The 50 recruiting services? Clarion ledger? Daily journal? Sports illustrated?

I know Isaac Smith was this staffs #1 priority instate. So we got #1. It should excite you to know that we got the #1 player according to the staff, right?

Composite rankings. Some on here are too short sighted to aggregate this back to 2018 and see it is a valid concern. Like my original post said, go back and look at the past 4 years. Then go look at 2009-2018. Hell put it in a data visualization tool if you want, maybe a picture will get my point across.

Isaac Smith is an incredible get and a great job by the staff and possibly was the #1 in state ranked player by the coaches (even tho I do not buy that). We have not recruited the top 3 in state players well the past 4 years and got 0 of them this year, 0 of them last year, and 0 of them in 2021.

Both statements are true.

[662dawg]

Composite rankings. Some on here are too short sighted to aggregate this back to 2018 and see it is a valid concern. Like my original post said, go back and look at the past 4 years. Then go look at 2009-2018. Hell put it in a data visualization tool if you want, maybe a picture will get my point across.

Isaac Smith is an incredible get and a great job by the staff and possibly was the #1 in state ranked player by the coaches (even tho I do not buy that). We have not recruited the top 3 in state players well the past 4 years and got 0 of them this year, 0 of them last year, and 0 of them in 2021.

Both statements are true.

So according to recruiting services & not coaches evaluations? Gotcha. We will return to this thread in 2-3 years.

[DEDawg]

So according to recruiting services & not coaches evaluations? Gotcha. We will return to this thread in 2-3 years.

No. Again, because you are having trouble with comprehension. Go recruit your guys, evaluate and get your diamonds in the rough and who you think are going to be SEC guys and the rest of the in state guys. Also, get 1 to 2 of the top 3 in state players on top of that. It's really not that hard of a concept to grasp.

Why return in 2-3 years? We have the data to do it right now. The last composite top 3 in state player we got ended up being a top 5 DB to ever play here and will be an early NFL draft pick.

[MetEdDawg]

No. Again, because you are having trouble with comprehension. Go recruit your guys, evaluate and get your diamonds in the rough and who you think are going to be SEC guys and the rest of the in state guys. Also, get 1 to 2 of the top 3 in state players on top of that. It's really not that hard of a concept to grasp.

Why return in 2-3 years? We have the data to do it right now. The last composite top 3 in state player we got ended up being a top 5 DB to ever play here and will be an early NFL draft pick.

Do you think we should consistently be able to beat Alabama and Georgia for an in state kid?

[DEDawg]

Do you think we should consistently be able to beat Alabama and Georgia for an in state kid?

No. I think we should be able to consistently sign 1 to 2 of the top 3 in state players.

[MetEdDawg]

No. I think we should be able to consistently sign 1 to 2 of the top 3 in state players.

Ok so as long as we agree on that, then we can give our staff a pass in years where they want someone.

Like let's say last year. 2 of the top 3 went to Bama and Georgia. The third one is now currently on our roster. So in 2022 our staff did exactly what you asked them to do. We got 1 of the Top 3.

In 2021, Bama got one, LSU got one, and Oregon got the other. LSU in our area holds close to as much weight as Bama so I would say that's going to happen and there's not much we can do about it. Oregon has similar pull from the money side.

In 2020 we got 1 of the Top 3 so mission accomplished.

In 2019 one went to Georgia, we got Charles Cross, and Ole Miss got Ealy. So mission accomplished there.

In 2018 we got 2 of the Top 3.

So are we really not doing what we are capable of? We aren't going to win many battles against the machines of college football. Bama, Georgia, LSU, Ohio State, Clemson, Oregon to some degree, and other money powerhouses like TAMU, Texas, and Oklahoma that just have a crap ton more money than we do.

So it sounds like we've done a pretty good job by the standards you laid out except for this year, where the kid we did get at #4 was like .45 composite points behind #3.

[MrCoachKlein]

Composite rankings. Some on here are too short sighted to aggregate this back to 2018 and see it is a valid concern. Like my original post said, go back and look at the past 4 years. Then go look at 2009-2018. Hell put it in a data visualization tool if you want, maybe a picture will get my point across.

Isaac Smith is an incredible get and a great job by the staff and possibly was the #1 in state ranked player by the coaches (even tho I do not buy that). We have not recruited the top 3 in state players well the past 4 years and got 0 of them this year, 0 of them last year, and 0 of them in 2021.

Both statements are true.

Go back and find that T&L podcast where they went through the top 10 rated players from like the past decade. Our coaches were much better at finding talent than the composite rankings and it wasn't even close.

[DEDawg]

Ok so as long as we agree on that, then we can give our staff a pass in years where they want someone.

Like let's say last year. 2 of the top 3 went to Bama and Georgia. The third one is now currently on our roster. So in 2022 our staff did exactly what you asked them to do. We got 1 of the Top 3.

In 2021, Bama got one, LSU got one, and Oregon got the other. LSU in our area holds close to as much weight as Bama so I would say that's going to happen and there's not much we can do about it. Oregon has similar pull from the money side.

In 2020 we got 1 of the Top 3 so mission accomplished.

In 2019 one went to Georgia, we got Charles Cross, and Ole Miss got Ealy. So mission accomplished there.

In 2018 we got 2 of the Top 3.

So are we really not doing what we are capable of? We aren't going to win many battles against the machines of college football. Bama, Georgia, LSU, Ohio State, Clemson, Oregon to some degree, and other money powerhouses like TAMU, Texas, and Oklahoma that just have a crap ton more money than we do.

So it sounds like we've done a pretty good job by the standards you laid out except for this year, where the kid we did get at #4 was like .45 composite points behind #3.

Then I think we completely agree with each other. 2020 we got one who will be an NFL player and was a huge impact player for us. 2019 we got one who was a first round draft pick and a huge impact player for us. 2018 we got two, one couldn't get his head on straight and is still an SEC starter, the other is a solid SEC starter. That is a GREAT hit rate.

Yes it sucks but we have to figure out how to start doing that consistently and add on to the great job we are doing evaluating lesser ranked players. We got lucky this year with Rogers, let's start winning those battles out of HS.

[662dawg]

Go back and find that T&L podcast where they went through the top 10 rated players from like the past decade. Our coaches were much better at finding talent than the composite rankings and it wasn't even close.

And I have a feeling this current staff will be just as good at finding talent that fits what they want to do.

[Goldendawg]

Then excellent job. Go get 1/2 of the top 3 ranked in state players as well. I really do not know how I can make this any clearer.

How do you get 1/2 of Top 3 players? Solomon is not on our staff!******* Great job done by our staff closing this year. Hail State!

[Ari Gold]

No. I think we should be able to consistently sign 1 to 2 of the top 3 in state players.

We did
Isaac Smith is prob the 2nd best college prospect in the state if not the best

[ZedFedder]

We did
Isaac Smith is prob the 2nd best college prospect in the state if not the best

I think Perkins is far and away #1. I agree that Smith is second best, though.

[HancockCountyDog]

Who are our portal targets?

Where are we with that WR from Old Dominion or maybe it was James Madison.

[Leroy Jenkins]

We did
Isaac Smith is prob the 2nd best college prospect in the state if not the best

1. Perkins...(huge gap).... 2. Smith....(big gap).... 3. Pick one.

[662dawg]

1. Perkins...(huge gap).... 2. Smith....(big gap).... 3. Pick one.

People who believe this will eat these words in 3 years. 1. Smith 2. Perkins 3. Pick one.

[SmokeyDawg]

Who are our portal targets?

Where are we with that WR from Old Dominion or maybe it was James Madison.

Heard SR say we were after Gunner Britton OT from Western Kentucky.

[msu15]

Heard SR say we were after Gunner Britton OT from Western Kentucky.

And it sounds like he's coming if Mason Miller stays

[Westdawg]

WKU sure had a fun offense to watch the other day in their bowl game

[HancockCountyDog]

Is anyone hearing rumblings that we may be getting into the QB transfer game?

I have heard from two different people that give way more money than me that we are snooping around.

[Commercecomet24]

Is anyone hearing rumblings that we may be getting into the QB transfer game?

I have heard from two different people that give way more money than me that we are snooping around.

😎

[HancockCountyDog]

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Ok - that is what I thought as well.

[Commercecomet24]

Ok - that is what I thought as well.

Yeah I've heard we're kicking the tires on a couple that were pretty highly rated out of high school. Not sure if we'll get any but I know we've been as you said snooping around.

[DEDawg]

Yeah I've heard we're kicking the tires on a couple that were pretty highly rated out of high school. Not sure if we'll get any but I know we've been as you said snooping around.

names?

[Tater]

names?

Names I've heard from, frankly, not the most reliable source, so take it with a grain of salt. (same guy who swore we were on WR chambers from FIU both last year and this year. less so this year.)

Jay Butterfield
Luke Altmeyer
Brady Allen (though he's likely going Louisville)
Common Cooper (this the one that Leach was likely going to bring in a la Jack Abraham)

[Commercecomet24]

Names I've heard from, frankly, not the most reliable source, so take it with a grain of salt. (same guy who swore we were on WR chambers from FIU both last year and this year. less so this year.)

Jay Butterfield
Luke Altmeyer
Brady Allen (though he's likely going Louisville)
Common Cooper (this the one that Leach was likely going to bring in a la Jack Abraham)

Here's a name i've heard from several different people, but I'm not sure how realistic it is at this point but I know there's been some interest and that's Ty Simpson.

[662dawg]

Here's a name i've heard from several different people, but I'm not sure how realistic it is at this point but I know there's been some interest and that's Ty Simpson.

This would be beautiful

[DEDawg]

Here's a name i've heard from several different people, but I'm not sure how realistic it is at this point but I know there's been some interest and that's Ty Simpson.

Now this would be massive

[Commercecomet24]

Now this would be massive

There's been interest from what I've been told but, I honestly think it's a long shot. I know he's not happy that he didn't get a shot when young went down and it looks like Milroe is the future and these kids aint interested in sitting and learning anymore. Obviously we have a little in with him because of his dad. Would be a great pickup but I'm not all warm and fuzzy about the chances, but in this day and age who know!

[TrapGame]

Here's a name i've heard from several different people, but I'm not sure how realistic it is at this point but I know there's been some interest and that's Ty Simpson.

So, there's the possibility we can have a 5* QB like Ty working with a wonderkin OC/QB Coach like Kittley?

Sign me up.

[Cooterpoot]

So, there's the possibility we can have a 5* QB like Ty working with a wonderkin OC/QB Coach like Kittley?

Sign me up.

Neither are likely

[Tripp McNeely]

Neither are likely

Insider info on this one??

[TrapGame]

Neither are likely

No offense Cooter but you're a cold splash of reality sometimes.

[662dawg]

Insider info on this one??

No. Pooter is wrong a lot lol

[Tripp McNeely]

No. Pooter is wrong a lot lol

I figured that was the case

[Cooterpoot]

Insider info on this one??

On one yes. The other is pretty much common sense. I'll be a little surprised if our next OC isn't Littrell or Hatcher.
I think the Simpson action is next year or after spring. I don't believe we're in pole position there either. We're going to be looking for an experienced QB.

[Commercecomet24]

On one yes. The other is pretty much common sense. I'll be a little surprised if our next OC isn't Littrell or Hatcher.
I think the Simpson action is next year or after spring. I don't believe we're in pole position there either. We're going to be looking for an experienced QB.

Just heard Littrell will be announced as oc after bowl game.

[KOdawg1]

Just heard Littrell will be announced as oc after bowl game.
Yep. He was in town for Leach's memorial.

[TrapGame]

Rosebowl just posted that it won't be Littrell.

[Cooterpoot]

Rosebowl just posted that it won't be Littrell.

Hatcher it is then. Assuming Rosey knows something. It was those two according to several people. I knew Kittley was out. Littrell is still getting paid. Rumor has been he's looking for a HC job.

[MrCoachKlein]

Rosebowl just posted that it won't be Littrell.

Hope he's wrong. Littrel is my favorite of the reasonable hires. What do I know though

[TrapGame]

Hope he's wrong. Littrel is my favorite of the reasonable hires. What do I know though

I was told Littrell has removed his name from consideration. I think it's premium info from the other board.

Was also told Kittley's buy out was head coach level expensive that's why we moved on from him.

[DEDawg]

I do, just stop talking.

Seems Arnett might think similarly to what I was saying. He is prioritizing in state and putting together a staff tailored to lock down the state. we are going to start landing these guys again.

But no you know best and we should be happy with where we are

[RisperDawg]

Seems Arnett might think similarly to what I was saying. He is prioritizing in state and putting together a staff tailored to lock down the state. we are going to start landing these guys again.

But no you know best and we should be happy with where we are

Lol. I can't believe i clicked this thread looking for recruiting news and was met with this continuation of a pointless argument from last week.

[Cooterpoot]

Assuming the Briles deal is a formality (seems to be), he and a someone he's bringing have Texas connections, so we're should be solid there. I'm all about MS, but we only have so many top recruits. We've got to get kids from Texas to Georgia. We can't win with just MS talent.

[DEDawg]

Assuming the Briles deal is a formality (seems to be), he and a someone he's bringing have Texas connections, so we're should be solid there. I'm all about MS, but we only have so many top recruits. We've got to get kids from Texas to Georgia. We can't win with just MS talent.

Agree that should be our formula. Lock down overlooked MS talent, get half from the top 10, a 1/2 from the top 3, fill in with connected out of state and transfers.

[Bdawg]

So….we got a list of visitors this weekend?

[Goldendawg]

So….we got a list of visitors this weekend?

How about a list of Offensive Coaches there to welcome them?

[Bdawg]

How about a list of Offensive Coaches there to welcome them?

Would be nice!! Ha

[HancockCountyDog]

Any word on any portal targets? A WR wouldn't hurt my feelings.

[KOdawg1]

Any word on any portal targets? A WR wouldn't hurt my feelings.
Not going to be any offensive portal news until we hire an OC

[HancockCountyDog]

Not going to be any offensive portal news until we hire an OC

The QBs in the portal are starting to find landing spots. If a new OC wants to run anything other than the air raid, he needs to be hired and we need to recruit a portal QB that may fit the offense.

If we are sticking with the air raid, then it is not as pressing.

[Homedawg]

TE's!!!!

[bulldawg28]

TE's!!!!

Arik Gilbert

[HancockCountyDog]

Arik Gilbert

Pass

[msu15]

Pass

Take him all day when we have none

[HancockCountyDog]

Take him all day when we have none

There are other TE's we can get in the portal.

[Bothrops]

We are going to stock up on defensive talent and go back to the mid 2000s on offensive firepower.

[Leroy Jenkins]

https://twitter.com/vicsutton1/status/1614369254790557697?s=46&t=i58FKY1ie2fnEL93tzfeuQ

[MetEdDawg]

Jakobi Albert, former 4 star safety that committed to Kentucky in 2021, announced his transfer to the good guys tonight.

[HancockCountyDog]

Jakobi Albert, former 4 star safety that committed to Kentucky in 2021, announced his transfer to the good guys tonight.

I like adding quality depth, but I really hope we find some starters through the portal.

[DEDawg]

I like adding quality depth, but I really hope we find some starters through the portal.
I don?t know anything about him, was he a bench guy at Kentucky?

[HancockCountyDog]

I don?t know anything about him, was he a bench guy at Kentucky?

Yeah, played in 10 games had 3 tackles. Has 3 to play 3, solid depth.

[msu15]

Yeah, played in 10 games had 3 tackles. Has 3 to play 3, solid depth.

He actually has 4 to play 3 because he played as a true freshman last season, but yea, he isn't coming here to redshirt lol.

[HancockCountyDog]

He actually has 4 to play 3 because he played as a true freshman last season, but yea, he isn't coming here to redshirt lol.

Yeah, if he redshirts, we made a bad evaluation.

[maroonmania]

Any Tulu updates? Are we basically in a bidding war with OM?

[Todd4State]

Any Tulu updates? Are we basically in a bidding war with OM?

I suspect we may be in a bidding war with ourselves.

Just a guess though.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Recruiting your own players. This is super fun.

[DesotoDog1967]

Just saw a tweet from Tulu something is happening at noon today

[Pancho]

his portal decision

[HancockCountyDog]

his portal decision

My gut says he stays. Hope I?m Right.

[HancockCountyDog]

Ok - do we have any portal news? I mean we do need at least two TE or H-back types and we still could use a true outside WR.

We obviously need a backup QB and Garcia committed to Mizzou.

So where are we? There has to be some G5 QB that wants to be a backup in the SEC.

[trob115]

Mike Wright just committed, former Vandy Qb. Adds a nice depth piece behind Rogers and allows Parson to get fully healthy.


Roberson the WR from EW just committed too.

[bulldawg28]

Mike Wright just committed, former Vandy Qb. Adds a nice depth piece behind Rogers and allows Parson to get fully healthy.


Roberson the WR from EW just committed too.

Wright is going to push for playing time.

[HancockCountyDog]

Wright is going to push for playing time.

Not likely, happy with the depth.

[SmokeyDawg]

Still several good high school TEs out there. I understand we need a transfer TE or 2 but it would be nice to get some depth too

[662dawg]

Wright is going to push for playing time.

I'm sure he'll have packages but he must become a more accurate passer. His athleticism tho 👀

I hope he's good enough to get some of this year & start next year giving Parson experience to take over the following year.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Did the Georgia TE show up this weekend? Supposed to be a package deal his girlfriend is a MSU Volleyball player. But then again he might not want to go to the same college his girlfriend does.

[msu15]

Still several good high school TEs out there. I understand we need a transfer TE or 2 but it would be nice to get some depth too

Hell we need Te's period. High school, prep school, juco, transfer I'll take any that we can get if they can play.

[yjnkdawg]

Did the Georgia TE show up this weekend? Supposed to be a package deal his girlfriend is a MSU Volleyball player. But then again he might not want to go to the same college his girlfriend does.

He is supposed to come this next weekend . Due to the tragedy they had he postponed his visit. Good possibility we have one TE commitment after or on Saturday.

[HancockCountyDog]

He is supposed to come this next weekend . Due to the tragedy they had he postponed his visit. Good possibility we have one TE commitment after or on Saturday.

If you are talking about Arik Gilbert, he just committed to Nebraska.

[SPDawgs]

Talking about Ryalnd Geode. He also Tweeted at Simeon Price and said "see you next weekend my guy" would be a huge grab 4 star 6'6 and 240. Two years of eligibility left I believe.

[trob115]

If you are talking about Arik Gilbert, he just committed to Nebraska.

He's talking about Goede.

[Commercecomet24]

He's talking about Goede.

Yes and he would be a very good pickup, if we can get him.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Luckily, his fianc?e is a volleyball player transferring from UGA how has a state offer

[Commercecomet24]

Luckily, his fianc?e is a volleyball player transferring from UGA how has a state offer

Yeah I think we trying to make a package deal.

[msu15]

Yeah I think we trying to make a package deal.

No shame in that. Got to play the game.

[Commercecomet24]

No shame in that. Got to play the game.

100%, should do more of it.

[662dawg]

Yeah I think we trying to make a package deal.

To be fair she was offered before he came on the radar 😁

[BankerDog]

Should?ve made a push for Cam Carroll from Tulane. He is heading to Florida from Tulane. He played at Northwest Rankin and was the best player on that team that included Jarrian Jones, Dee Baker, and Brayden Smith. His dad is from Natchez and played DE for us, Herman Carroll.

[Commercecomet24]

To be fair she was offered before he came on the radar 😁

It's all good!

[msu15]

Should?ve made a push for Cam Carroll from Tulane. He is heading to Florida from Tulane. He played at Northwest Rankin and was the best player on that team that included Jarrian Jones, Dee Baker, and Brayden Smith. His dad is from Natchez and played DE for us, Herman Carroll.

We're good. We're already going to have 5 scholarship running backs next season. Our remaining spots are far better used elsewhere at other positions.

[Todd4State]

Should?ve made a push for Cam Carroll from Tulane. He is heading to Florida from Tulane. He played at Northwest Rankin and was the best player on that team that included Jarrian Jones, Dee Baker, and Brayden Smith. His dad is from Natchez and played DE for us, Herman Carroll.

He's a good player but I think he had some injuries? Could be mixing him up with another Tulane running back.

[KB21]

So, when is this Mississippi focused recruiting staff going to have an effect? We have apparently fallen behind on two in state WR prospects who were considered to be Mississippi State leans 6 weeks ago.

[662dawg]

So, when is this Mississippi focused recruiting staff going to have an effect? We have apparently fallen behind on two in state WR prospects who were considered to be Mississippi State leans 6 weeks ago.

If you're talking about Harrell you are misinformed.

[Jarius]

So, when is this Mississippi focused recruiting staff going to have an effect? We have apparently fallen behind on two in state WR prospects who were considered to be Mississippi State leans 6 weeks ago.

How much longer is this troll going to be allowed to do this?

[Pancho]

He's a shart/bear/rebel/slave owner fan who will be excited when his 9 mil per year HC wins 6 or 7 games next year cuz he's worth it.

[msu15]

So, when is this Mississippi focused recruiting staff going to have an effect? We have apparently fallen behind on two in state WR prospects who were considered to be Mississippi State leans 6 weeks ago.

We're already in the lead for a defensive lineman in the state that's been offered by Texas. Be jealous that your Rebels are going to once again lose out.

[Cooterpoot]

KB, you've lost your ******* mind. Don't be a bitter little woman. Nobody wants us to pound the rock. Let's see how it goes. Otherwise, 17 off.

[HancockCountyDog]

KB, you've lost your ******* mind. Don't be a bitter little woman. Nobody wants us to pound the rock. Let's see how it goes. Otherwise, 17 off.

Actually it wouldn't hurt my feelings if we did pound the rock. I can't believe one poster has people being anti running the ball.

It is a good thing we will be running the ball more next year, no reason to hide from that, just because one poster things that running the ball is like eating your vegetables laced with rat poison.

[Cooterpoot]

Actually it wouldn't hurt my feelings if we did pound the rock. I can't believe one poster has people being anti running the ball.

It is a good thing we will be running the ball more next year, no reason to hide from that, just because one poster things that running the ball is like eating your vegetables laced with rat poison.

We aren't going to line up and pound it vs SEC defenses. Even Saban got away from it. There's a difference in running the ball and pounding it all the time.

[HancockCountyDog]

We aren't going to line up and pound it vs SEC defenses. Even Saban got away from it. There's a difference in running the ball and pounding it all the time.

I don't think we can pound it against Georgia, but the teams like LSU, UT and the bears all ran for over 180 yards against Bama. This isn't 2010, you can run the ball against Bama.

I think the only team you can't run it against is UGA and we won't be playing them again for the next 5 years most likely.

[Todd4State]

I don't think we can pound it against Georgia, but the teams like LSU, UT and the bears all ran for over 180 yards against Bama. This isn't 2010, you can run the ball against Bama.

I think the only team you can't run it against is UGA and we won't be playing them again for the next 5 years most likely.

Probably sooner than you think. There are rumors about Texas and Oklahoma joining the SEC in 2024 which mean we may play Georgia again as soon as 2024 and as late as 2026z

[Cooterpoot]

I don't think we can pound it against Georgia, but the teams like LSU, UT and the bears all ran for over 180 yards against Bama. This isn't 2010, you can run the ball against Bama.

I think the only team you can't run it against is UGA and we won't be playing them again for the next 5 years most likely.

Bama had some issues that were eliminated. LSU will be back soon. No teams are just going to pound their way to championships. It's about balance and tempo

[HancockCountyDog]

Bama had some issues that were eliminated. LSU will be back soon. No teams are just going to pound their way to championships. It's about balance and tempo

I'm all about some balance. I think it is easier for MSU to find RB's, big OL and a mobile QB than it is to find top flight WR's and good pass blocking OT's.

[Ari Gold]

Don’t care if we run it 90% of the time or throw it 90% of the time WE have to have a QB that’s a difference maker with his arm and feet

SEC is too good to not have this . Yes we can win games , but the next step can only be made with this type of QB

[KB21]

Got the non receiving threat at TE in the boat. He will replace the leading receiver on the team from this past season in the line up.

[Ari Gold]

Got the non receiving threat at TE in the boat. He will replace the leading receiver on the team from this past season in the line up.

Did you contribute to the NIL collective to keep RaRa?.
If not then stfu ..

[KB21]

Yes. I make monthly contributions to Bulldog Initiative.

[Pancho]

Then you are the largest Ass hole contributor. stfu congrats on your award you closet bitch shart fan

[msu15]

Yes. I make monthly contributions to Bulldog Initiative.

I highly doubt that because you aren't smart enough to hit button titled "reply with quote".

[MetEdDawg]

Got the non receiving threat at TE in the boat. He will replace the leading receiver on the team from this past season in the line up.

You mean the guy that averaged 52 yards per game in an offense that threw it over 50 times a game?

The same one that dropped TD passes against both LSU and Georgia and just got arrested?

That guy?

Sweet. We replaced a guy on our team that will never play at Georgia with a guy that actually got to play at Georgia.

[Ari Gold]

Yes. I make monthly contributions to Bulldog Initiative.

So then you understand that It didn’t matter who the HC was after Leach passed, RaRa was gone.
Kind of blows up your narrative

Thanks again for your contributions to the Bulldog NIL Initiative..

[KB21]

So then you understand that It didn’t matter who the HC was after Leach passed, RaRa was gone.
Kind of blows up your narrative

Thanks again for your contributions to the Bulldog NIL Initiative..

I?m not talking about RaRa. Ryland is going to replace Rufus Harvey.

[Pancho]

still the largest ass hole contributor

[DEDawg]

still the largest ass hole contributor

Do you contribute?

[SmokeyDawg]

Yes. I make monthly contributions to Bulldog Initiative.
Hopefully you click some adds too. I don't post much but I'd buy some coffee to listen to some better content.

[Pancho]

He's a closet rebel shart. they are just that way

[LC Dawg]

Since this is the recruiting thread I thought I'd post some actual recruiting info. Jonathan Davis, defensive lineman, of Lawrence County is announcing tomorrow. Kid was going JUCO but blew up after the North-South all star game. Texas offered first but it's between State and Ole Miss. He has a good family that supposedly leans State but they will support his decision to go elsewhere. State's working hard on him but Ole Miss is too.

[HancockCountyDog]

Since this is the recruiting thread I thought I'd post some actual recruiting info. Jonathan Davis, defensive lineman, of Lawrence County is announcing tomorrow. Kid was going JUCO but blew up after the North-South all star game. Texas offered first but it's between State and Ole Miss. He has a good family that supposedly leans State but they will support his decision to go elsewhere. State's working hard on him but Ole Miss is too.

I've heard he is in. Of course there is always last minute "changes", but I like our chances.

Give him a redshirt year - good weight and we keep the DL a strength of this team.

[Goldendawg]

He's a closet rebel shart. they are just that way

If so, he needs to go. If not, he is entitled to his mostly very negative opinions which add little to the threads. JMO.

[Pancho]

that is cool. we are all grown folks as far as I know. I have never mentioned anyone leaving or being tossed out regardless of how they seem or come across.

[DEDawg]

that is cool. we are all grown folks as far as I know. I have never mentioned anyone leaving or being tossed out regardless of how they seem or come across.

You act like a child tho

[DEDawg]

Since this is the recruiting thread I thought I'd post some actual recruiting info. Jonathan Davis, defensive lineman, of Lawrence County is announcing tomorrow. Kid was going JUCO but blew up after the North-South all star game. Texas offered first but it's between State and Ole Miss. He has a good family that supposedly leans State but they will support his decision to go elsewhere. State's working hard on him but Ole Miss is too.
Is he an end or tackle in college? Love loading the DL/OL with HS guys vs Portal

[Pancho]

You act like a child tho

and that is your opinion, which is fine. I hate the fact that we have actual fans who so closely resemble ole miss alumni that it's scary. anytime during my life whether business or sport related, myself and anyone associated have never held back, thus we do talk straight to each other. this rubs some the wrong way which is fine again. we do not do splash hires at MSU so I think all need to chill and allow CZA to simply do his thing.

[HancockCountyDog]

Is he an end or tackle in college? Love loading the DL/OL with HS guys vs Portal

I think he ends up inside. Not fast enough for edge. Now he could be a 3 technique down the road, just don't know if he is quick enough for that.

[LC Dawg]

Davis is a Dawg! Lots of upside. And a big recruiting win over Ole Miss. Kiffin was FaceTiming the kid in class yesterday.

[Cowbell]

Davis is a Dawg! Lots of upside. And a big recruiting win over Ole Miss. Kiffin was FaceTiming the kid in class yesterday.

Good thing he wasn't an offensive player***

[BankerDog]

Davis is a Dawg! Lots of upside. And a big recruiting win over Ole Miss. Kiffin was FaceTiming the kid in class yesterday.

We are the only team in the state churning out defensive players in the league, this is the expectation. I?m really only disappointed in the Perkins L to them and Bray Hubbard to Bama. Time to start pulling the offensive skill guys that we can put into the league.

[confucius say]

Davis is a Dawg! Lots of upside. And a big recruiting win over Ole Miss. Kiffin was FaceTiming the kid in class yesterday.

OM twitters say he signed NLI with OM but the mom wouldn't sign.

[Ari Gold]

OM twitters say he signed NLI with OM but the mom wouldn't sign.

Chin up OM..

[LC Dawg]

OM twitters say he signed NLI with OM but the mom wouldn't sign.

That's a coping mechanism.
They have a lot of them.

[Commercecomet24]

OM twitters say he signed NLI with OM but the mom wouldn't sign.

Lol!

[KB21]

OM twitters say he signed NLI with OM but the mom wouldn't sign.

Cough! https://www.goodbullhunting.com/2012/10/5/3454736/texas-a-m-recruiting-flashback-floyd-ravens-soft-signature-to-ole-miss


On the morning of National Signing Day, a LOI (letter of intent) for Floyd Raven rolled across a fax machine in Oxford, MS as expected. After an apparent issue with the letter not being legible, Ole Miss officials reached out to Raven requesting that he send another. As they waited for the second LOI, word began to spread that Floyd had never even signed the original. Apparently his mother, either because she selfishly wanted him in Oxford despite his wishes or because Floyd hadn't told her he changed his mind and wanted to play ball at Texas A&M, had forged his signature and faxed it to the Ole Miss football offices. Raven's official LOI, with his legitimate signature, meanwhile had been faxed to then-head coach at Texas A&M, Mike Sherman. The Rebel compliance office was left with no choice but to reject the LOI they had received due to the forgery, allowing the Aggies to accept the one they received. The strangeness of the situation even caused then-Athletic Director at Ole Miss, Pete Boone, to respond on Twitter where he coined the term "soft signature".

They are a bunch of delusional ass wipes.

[SpaceBully]

Awesome... it's gonna be fun watching the emergence of our next QB after Will ... I think Will is gonna get the job done this year and next but it's a cool thing to know we have Sawyer and Chris waiting on their shot ... welcome aboard Chris and Hail State

I hope Zach and our new OC are different from Leach in this aspect. Please let Parson get as much PT as possible when we know the game is in hand. He needs to develop quickly so by the end of the season, in case Will gets injured before the Ole Miss game, that he could come in and do reasonably well.

[Ari Gold]

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