2023 MSU FOOTBALL RECRUITING Discussion Thread

[Goldendawg]

Numbers are getting tight. We're being a little picky with most spots.

I don't exactly understand "numbers are getting tight" when we only have 15 commits and so many teams ahead of our 38 or so ranking have filled or almost filled their classes. Are there a lot of very good uncommitted players still available? If so, Genespage certainly doesn't know who we are "targeting" and how many are "warm" toward us. Do we have any hope of a top 25 class? Thanks.

[dawgman15]

I think this years results will determine what happens with the remainder of our class. I just have a feeling if we do well and look good doing it we could attract a couple more guys to move us up but at the end of the day we will most likely finish towards the bottom of the conference which is pretty normal

[HancockCountyDog]

I don't exactly understand "numbers are getting tight" when we only have 15 commits and so many teams ahead of our 38 or so ranking have filled or almost filled their classes. Are there a lot of very good uncommitted players still available? If so, Genespage certainly doesn't know who we are "targeting" and how many are "warm" toward us. Do we have any hope of a top 25 class? Thanks.

It is what it is. My guess is that we are going to hold spots for the portal, and if covid seniors want to come back. We still are limited by the 85 limit.

[Todd4State]

It is what it is. My guess is that we are going to hold spots for the portal, and if covid seniors want to come back. We still are limited by the 85 limit.

Covid seniors still count against the 85?

[1bigdawg]

It is what it is. My guess is that we are going to hold spots for the portal, and if covid seniors want to come back. We still are limited by the 85 limit.

We are full at QB, RB, and LB. We have 3 OLs committed and are looking for one more from HS. We are looking for one more HS DB. We still need at least 2 more HS DLs as well as one from the portal. We are also looking for one more DB and OL from the portal. After that, it comes down to what's available.

[Goldendawg]

We are full at QB, RB, and LB. We have 3 OLs committed and are looking for one more from HS. We are looking for one more HS DB. We still need at least 2 more HS DLs as well as one from the portal. We are also looking for one more DB and OL from the portal. After that, it comes down to what's available.

This is very concerning. At your count, this would give us 22 commits, (HS & Portal), and then what's available. Many programs have about filled their classes. Just how many good players are uncommitted? Is NIL hurting us a lot? We are currently ranked 39 on 24/7 and with my non-coach background, I could count only 6 or so teams ahead of us that we should pass if we match or exceed our average player ranking of 87.25 which is where we are now. Hope we are strong on some players we fans don't know about and "what's available" are some diamonds in the rough we turn into very good players.

[Cooterpoot]

This is very concerning. At your count, this would give us 22 commits, (HS & Portal), and then what's available. Many programs have about filled their classes. Just how many good players are uncommitted? Is NIL hurting us a lot? We are currently ranked 39 on 24/7 and with my non-coach background, I could count only 6 or so teams ahead of us that we should pass if we match or exceed our average player ranking of 87.25 which is where we are now. Hope we are strong on some players we fans don't know about and "what's available" are some diamonds in the rough we turn into very good players.

We'll finish with a class that's ranked about the same as it is every year.

[Commercecomet24]

We'll finish with a class that's ranked about the same as it is every year.

This. You can just about set your watch by it. I will say though Leach, is making sure our roster stays more balanced than past coaches.

[Goldendawg]

Genes Page article (members only) says we are interested in flipping Gabriel Moore (edge), Troy commit (unrated) from Louisville. Anyone seen him play or have info?

[Hambone]

https://twitter.com/robbiefaulk247/status/1569367096714305537?s=46&t=5dUP3WkFntX4nkRatCVV8g

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Louisville hasn?t been a haven of recruiting success for MSU over the years.

[Westdawg]

Genes Page article (members only) says we are interested in flipping Gabriel Moore (edge), Troy commit (unrated) from Louisville. Anyone seen him play or have info?

I?ve seen him twice in game action now and will see him again in a couple weeks. He looked like a man amongst boys last year as a junior. I?ve wondered why he hasn?t blown up more

[Pancho]

#5 for Northwest CC is a Louisville guy also. Hibbler is his name. I think he's worth a look as well.

[Goldendawg]

Another week passes with no new info to be shared. Crickets.

[KOdawg1]

Another week passes with no new info to be shared. Crickets.
Not much going on right now

[Goldendawg]

Another week passes and we have dropped to #41, with 3 "warm" remaining prospects on our Top 22 Targets on 24/7, Genes Page. Any news, rumors out there?

[HancockCountyDog]

Another week passes and we have dropped to #41, with 3 "warm" remaining prospects on our Top 22 Targets on 24/7, Genes Page. Any news, rumors out there?

It looks like we are the heavy favorite for Isaac Smith. Other than that, I'm not sure we have more news.

[msu15]

Another week passes and we have dropped to #41, with 3 "warm" remaining prospects on our Top 22 Targets on 24/7, Genes Page. Any news, rumors out there?

The state of MS is as devoid of prospects as it has been in a long time, but still, our recruiting right now leaves a lot to be desired for sure.

[Goldendawg]

Per 24/7, we have now dropped to 42. Our ranking per player is .8725. There are only 11 teams ahead of us with a lower per player ranking, but they have more commits. We have several high 3's, but no one who is a .90 or better even though 2 round off as 4 stars. Smith is a .92 something, will be a great get at safety. I sure hope there are targets we don't know about and that we finish strong. Hail State!

[ZedFedder]

We have three silent four star commits. We have a five star who we have planted as a flip.*****

[Goldendawg]

We have three silent four star commits. We have a five star who we have planted as a flip.*****

Can you PM me the names? I promise not to post or tell.********

[Hambone]

Doug Buckles is one

[Goldendawg]

The state of MS is as devoid of prospects as it has been in a long time, but still, our recruiting right now leaves a lot to be desired for sure.

And that being said OM has commitments from #'s 1,2, & 5 in this year's MS HS class. I'm sure all 3 were in "we didn't want them anyway" status. They have 11 commits to our 15 but seem to be committed to live or die using the portal. We have dropped to #42, OM #44.

[Saltydog]

It looks like we are the heavy favorite for Isaac Smith. Other than that, I'm not sure we have more news.

I have a little inside on this one and I wouldn't call us a heavy fav, at all.....

[Goldendawg]

OM just got a commit from a .92 safety from TX. They jumped to #30 with 12 commits to our 15 and we have dropped to #43. Their avg per player is .9017 to our .8725. Smith is visiting again this weekend. Maybe OM getting the TX safety will help with his joining us. He is a 4 star and safety is a position of need for us.Hail State!!

[Saltydog]

UGA flew in last week and he got a LSU offer last Friday......He's a UM legacy too so there's that.......They tend to keep their legacies more in the family than we do.......

[HancockCountyDog]

UGA flew in last week and he got a LSU offer last Friday......He's a UM legacy too so there's that.......They tend to keep their legacies more in the family than we do.......

Well I'm just going by what our recruiting "experts" are saying.

I hope they are right this time.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

OM just got a commit from a .92 safety from TX. They jumped to #30 with 12 commits to our 15 and we have dropped to #43. Their avg per player is .9017 to our .8725. Smith is visiting again this weekend. Maybe OM getting the TX safety will help with his joining us. He is a 4 star and safety is a position of need for us.Hail State!!
Ole Miss Recruiting budget is 3 times ours. We are last in SEC when it comes to recruiting budgets except for Vandy and about 50th in NCAA. This isnt including NIL money.

[PikeDawg15]

We got to hit the portal hard this offseason. I think there will be some 4 and 5 stars from A$M available.

[BlackSailsDawg]

We will need Portal and a huge jump on 2024

[Cooterpoot]

Recruiting is not great. We've still got a couple players on the board but one of those is likely headed OOS. We're circling back to players we passed on earlier now. This staff has to do better.

[HancockCountyDog]

Recruiting is not great. We've still got a couple players on the board but one of those is likely headed OOS. We're circling back to players we passed on earlier now. This staff has to do better.

I am choosing to ignore this because we are kicking ass this weekend.

[jacksondawg]

Recruiting is not great. We've still got a couple players on the board but one of those is likely headed OOS. We're circling back to players we passed on earlier now. This staff has to do better.

Is this a coaches problem or and NIL problem?

[MetEdDawg]

Seen a couple folks saying they were on campus today that are mid tier 3 star guys.

Anyone know of any other fairly big names that were on campus today?

[msu15]

Seen a couple folks saying they were on campus today that are mid tier 3 star guys.

Anyone know of any other fairly big names that were on campus today?

I highly doubt it for 2023

[Goldendawg]

Seen a couple folks saying they were on campus today that are mid tier 3 star guys.

Anyone know of any other fairly big names that were on campus today?

All I know is what I read here or on Genespage. Top targets on Genespage show only Smith, a 4* getting attention from GA & LSU and his Dad played at OM and just 3 others mid-threes or a little better only warm to us. Hope there is a lot we don't know about going on as we are ranked #41 with an average of .8731 per player today. Hail State! Update: Per free article on Genespage, we had 3 players on official visits against AR, 2 MSU commits and a 4 star FL commit, athlete, we are trying to flip.

[msu15]

All I know is what I read here or on Genespage. Top targets on Genespage show only Smith, a 4* getting attention from GA & LSU and his Dad played at OM and just 3 others mid-threes or a little better only warm to us. Hope there is a lot we don't know about going on as we are ranked #41 with an average of .8731 per player today. Hail State! Update: Per free article on Genespage, we had 3 players on official visits against AR, 2 MSU commits and a 4 star FL commit, athlete, we are trying to flip.

I see that the Florida kid is from Gainesville lol. No chance we get him.

[PikeDawg15]

All I know is what I read here or on Genespage. Top targets on Genespage show only Smith, a 4* getting attention from GA & LSU and his Dad played at OM and just 3 others mid-threes or a little better only warm to us. Hope there is a lot we don't know about going on as we are ranked #41 with an average of .8731 per player today. Hail State! Update: Per free article on Genespage, we had 3 players on official visits against AR, 2 MSU commits and a 4 star FL commit, athlete, we are trying to flip.

We are going to have to hit the portal hard next year.

[HancockCountyDog]

I may just retire from following recruiting.

I spent way too much time in my youth following it, and its pretty clear that with the portal what you sign may not be on your roster in 18 months, so what is the point.

Plus, Leach has proven he can beat the A&M's of the world despite them being ranked ahead of us by 25 spots.

[msu15]

I may just retire from following recruiting.

I spent way too much time in my youth following it, and its pretty clear that with the portal what you sign may not be on your roster in 18 months, so what is the point.

Plus, Leach has proven he can beat the A&M's of the world despite them being ranked ahead of us by 25 spots.

Yep, why I let me Genespage subscription expire a couple of years ago. Add what you said combined with how crazy and ridiculous some of these kids are now and how they handle their process, I just don't give a shit anymore. I'll check and see who we ink on signing day from HailState.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Dante Dowdell

[Commercecomet24]

I may just retire from following recruiting.

I spent way too much time in my youth following it, and its pretty clear that with the portal what you sign may not be on your roster in 18 months, so what is the point.

Plus, Leach has proven he can beat the A&M's of the world despite them being ranked ahead of us by 25 spots.

Yeah I've kinda quit keeping up with it. I used to follow it religiously. We seem to get similar players every year though no matter who the coach is and we've proved we can compete, especially with Leach. That being said I would love to see us fill our rosters with 4 and 5 star players, but the drama keeping up with these kids is just to much. I just look to see who we sign or I'll keep up with a kid if I know him personally. That and the portal is just as important as signing day now and can change a team instantly with portal kids.

[Catfish]

Yeah I've kinda quit keeping up with it. I used to follow it religiously. We seem to get similar players every year though no matter who the coach is and we've proved we can compete, especially with Leach. That being said I would love to see us fill our rosters with 4 and 5 star players, but the drama keeping up with these kids is just to much. I just look to see who we sign or I'll keep up with a kid if I know him personally. That and the portal is just as important as signing day now and can change a team instantly with portal kids.

True, especially the ways stars are assigned to players now. We have a great defense now made up of two and three star players and a few portal players. Same can be said about our offensive line and our entire team overall.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Yeah I've kinda quit keeping up with it. I used to follow it religiously. We seem to get similar players every year though no matter who the coach is and we've proved we can compete, especially with Leach. That being said I would love to see us fill our rosters with 4 and 5 star players, but the drama keeping up with these kids is just to much. I just look to see who we sign or I'll keep up with a kid if I know him personally. That and the portal is just as important as signing day now and can change a team instantly with portal kids.



What's really telling is according to 247, we have like 25 4 star players. 11 of those are Freshmen be it True or RS. If we keep that going, we will have on average what 44ish 4 stars?




True, especially the ways stars are assigned to players now. We have a great defense now made up of two and three star players and a few portal players.


I know of a kid right now that is a beast in 6A that never comes off the field and they are 7-0. He's a RB and he plays SS, Kick return, kick coverage...etc. A friend was talking to me about him when I was there for a visit and sent me the links to him and stats this weekend. Runs a 4.55. 6'0 and 185.

Kid had 6 TDs 2 weeks ago. 5 catching it out of the backfield, one pick 6 and he forced a fumble. He's also 3 time state wrestling champ. Last year averaged over 10 yards per carry...etc



HIS 247 ranking is nothing. I mean 100% nothing. They have his height wrong, no photo, weight wrong. Just blank.

[Ari Gold]

Until the NIL is somewhat policed and the transfer portal rule is fixed.. high school recruiting has never been more irrelevant

[msu15]

Until the NIL is somewhat policed and the transfer portal rule is fixed.. high school recruiting has never been more irrelevant

Bingo

[Commercecomet24]

Until the NIL is somewhat policed and the transfer portal rule is fixed.. high school recruiting has never been more irrelevant

Yep. Don't have a good draft(signing day) you just go to the free agent market(portal).

[Goldendawg]

Until the NIL is somewhat policed and the transfer portal rule is fixed.. high school recruiting has never been more irrelevant

So do you think we are changing our recruiting goals to rely more on the portal? On 24/7 we are currently #40, 15 commits with 2 barely rated 4 stars. There are 28 teams ahead of us at this point with at least 19 HS commits. How many spots do you expect us to save for the portal? Thanks.

[Goldendawg]

Dante Dowdell

He is a RB, #4 rated player in MS, .9240, committed to Oregon since 5/13/22. Many big offers, but we only offered last week? Interest from him now? If we keep winning, may have more interest from several more players maybe committed elsewhere. Hail State!

[Catfish]

He is a RB, #4 rated player in MS, .9240, committed to Oregon since 5/13/22. Many big offers, but we only offered last week? Interest from him now? If we keep winning, may have more interest from several more players maybe committed elsewhere. Hail State!

I think you hit the nail on the head. Winning is like Christmas, it puts all kinds of things under the tree.

[PikeDawg15]

He is a RB, #4 rated player in MS, .9240, committed to Oregon since 5/13/22. Many big offers, but we only offered last week? Interest from him now? If we keep winning, may have more interest from several more players maybe committed elsewhere. Hail State!

Ive seen some fellow Hail State recruits have been trying to Recruit him to MSU with them. I think Chris Parson is about to help us sign some more receivers.

I think we are going to hit the portal hard this offseason because we will have a good bit of the offense back except for a few receivers I believe.

Hopefully marks and johnson stay for their senior seasons. We are going to lose a bit on defense so hopefully A$M falls apart and we snag some of their 4 and 5 star recruits they signed because they want to fill in spots on a winning team

[Ari Gold]

So do you think we are changing our recruiting goals to rely more on the portal? On 24/7 we are currently #40, 15 commits with 2 barely rated 4 stars. There are 28 teams ahead of us at this point with at least 19 HS commits. How many spots do you expect us to save for the portal? Thanks.

Honestly , I have no idea... I would be shocked if we don’t drop 4-5 guys we have now. The staff prob knows we will have a handful or more guys hit the portal and I’m sure a few will have played valuable minutes this year for us

We have got to hit the portal hard on defense.. losing a lot of guys

Hopefully our staff have lots of contacts out and we pull some guys in

[Cowbell]

Ive seen some fellow Hail State recruits have been trying to Recruit him to MSU with them. I think Chris Parson is about to help us sign some more receivers.

I think we are going to hit the portal hard this offseason because we will have a good bit of the offense back except for a few receivers I believe.

Hopefully marks and johnson stay for their senior seasons. We are going to lose a bit on defense so hopefully A$M falls apart and we snag some of their 4 and 5 star recruits they signed because they want to fill in spots on a winning team

Them 4&5 stars are getting paid. They ain't coming here.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Creed Whitmore, 4 star UF commit just de-committed from UF.

[msu15]

Creed Whitmore, 4 star UF commit just de-committed from UF.

That would be a very nice flip.

[bulldawg28]

That would be a very nice flip.

Shows he's committed to us on 24/7

[MetEdDawg]

He just announced about 20 minutes ago. Big get for us.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Well damn it Leach

[Goldendawg]

Go to 24/7 and look at our offers for the 2023 class. It is broken down by position. Now check out the various schools they are committed to. We play and try to recruit in a very tough athletic neighborhood. We will only improve by winning more, especially when we are supposed to ( see LSU & KY), adding more people to our recruiting staff, more $ to recruiting budget, strong NIL plan, and an all-in fan base win or lose (and not easy at all with our roller coaster rides). Hail State!

[Goldendawg]

Anyone know why QB commit Chris Parson hasn't played in 4 weeks per Weekly Commitment Tracker on Genespage, hurt? Thanks.

[Commercecomet24]

Anyone know why QB commit Chris Parson hasn't played in 4 weeks per Weekly Commitment Tracker on Genespage, hurt? Thanks.

He's dealing with an injury

[Saltydog]

Leach and co. are in Fulton tonight watching Isaac Smith, if he plays. Was out last week (concussion protocol) and questionable tonight. I'd love to pick up this kid but I'm skeptical for a couple of reasons. We'll see how it shakes out but he probably won't announce until the U/A or MS/AL game anyway.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Smith has a head. Leach and Hughes came to see him. Hard to miss Leach in those cargo shorts.

[Goldendawg]

Leach and co. are in Fulton tonight watching Isaac Smith, if he plays. Was out last week (concussion protocol) and questionable tonight. I'd love to pick up this kid but I'm skeptical for a couple of reasons. We'll see how it shakes out but he probably won't announce until the U/A or MS/AL game anyway.

OM just got another 4 star commitment at safety this week from a St. Louis prep school. Gives them 4 safety commits, 2 4 Stars and 2 high 3 stars. Genespages page shows him warm to us, aTm, and vandy. Sure y'all know more than me. We really need him at safety for sure! Hail State!

[Saltydog]

Vandy is very much in the picture....

[Goldendawg]

Vandy is very much in the picture....

Excellent place to get an education I am told, wouldn't want to play football there.

[Cooterpoot]

Vandy is very much in the picture....

No they aren't

[Tough Dawg]

Looks like we might have offered the QB from Isaac Smith?s team? Ty Davis? Anybody know the story there?

[Pancho]

Davis is prob 6' 2" or so and 190 to 200 lb very athletic runner in traffic and pretty much slings it all over the field for IAHS. He has been looked at as a juco first stop QB since his soph year but simply keeps getting better. They have more college level kids in that pipeline there from what I'm told.

[Hambone]

https://twitter.com/isaacdsmith/status/1585858283025227776?s=46&t=_SMeAywSWMXNP3ubrR77IA

[Goldendawg]

Love Coach Leach's "STATE" sweatshirt! Hail STATE, not Hail MState!

[msu15]

Dante Kelly decommits. We drop him?

[Saltydog]

No they aren't

You are flat ass WRONG and I'll leave it at that. Do I think he goes there, "no". Are they still in the game at this point, "yes". This kid is very cerebral and is an A student.

[Cooterpoot]

You are flat ass WRONG and I'll leave it at that. Do I think he goes there, "no". Are they still in the game at this point, "yes". This kid is very cerebral and is an A student.

You just said yourself he won't go there. As I said, they're not a legit threat to us. LSU might be. OM possibly. But I believe we're going to sign him. Vandy would be behind all those.

[HancockCountyDog]

Dante Kelly decommits. We drop him?

Rumors were that we were going to be shaking up our commit list.

[msu15]

Rumors were that we were going to be shaking up our commit list.

Good deal. Bringing in players that can't play is even worse than missing on a target.

[Goldendawg]

You just said yourself he won't go there. As I said, they're not a legit threat to us. LSU might be. OM possibly. But I believe we're going to sign him. Vandy would be behind all those.

OM currently has 4 safety commits, 2 Four and Two high three stars. Maybe this helps our chance.

[Saltydog]

Davis is prob 6' 2" or so and 190 to 200 lb very athletic runner in traffic and pretty much slings it all over the field for IAHS. He has been looked at as a juco first stop QB since his soph year but simply keeps getting better. They have more college level kids in that pipeline there from what I'm told.

He started getting some notice in the 7 on 7 circuits this summer. He's got a big arm and he's accurate for a HS QB but I'm a little shocked we offered him at this point. Makes me wonder if Leach knows that we may have some departures in the off season.

[Goldendawg]

He started getting some notice in the 7 on 7 circuits this summer. He's got a big arm and he's accurate for a HS QB but I'm a little shocked we offered him at this point. Makes me wonder if Leach knows that we may have some departures in the off season.

May? No way Roberson or Greek want to sit behind Will one to two more years and seldom see the field in either blowout or mop up duty in today's portal world.

[msu15]

He started getting some notice in the 7 on 7 circuits this summer. He's got a big arm and he's accurate for a HS QB but I'm a little shocked we offered him at this point. Makes me wonder if Leach knows that we may have some departures in the off season.
You can put every penny in your bank that no more than one of Sawyer, Greek, and Locke graduate from MSU lol. Way of the world these days.

[Saltydog]

You just said yourself he won't go there. As I said, they're not a legit threat to us. LSU might be. OM possibly. But I believe we're going to sign him. Vandy would be behind all those.

No, I didn't say he won't go there. I said I didn't think he would when it comes down to the nut cutting but if you're thinking there's no chance of that happening then you simply aren't familiar with his recruitment. This will likely be a grab hat at the U/A game. OM, VU, MSU, LSU, aTm, UGA all in the mix but he's playing his cards close to his chest and like every other big recruit, NIL will be a major factor so we'd better be prepared to step up to the plate if we're going to sign him.

[Hambone]

https://twitter.com/keenum_koby/status/1587976124637876225?s=46&t=YFvIh8fxP1VCaJY0ErBO9w

[msu15]

https://twitter.com/keenum_koby/status/1587976124637876225?s=46&t=YFvIh8fxP1VCaJY0ErBO9w

Why did he tag Walker lol?

[PCHSDawg]

Why did he tag Walker lol?

I believe they are cousins.

[ZedFedder]

Wiltfong with a CB pick for LSU for Isaac Smith.

[HancockCountyDog]

Wiltfong with a CB pick for LSU for Isaac Smith.

LSU has been recruiting like nuts the last week - not sure who signed a check - but clearly someone did.

[msu15]

I believe they are cousins.

Ah, 10-4

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

If Isaac Smith goes to LSU, it would be contrary to his actions. He has been to State 4-5 times this year. He?s coming today over going to LSU/Bama.

[Goldendawg]

Continued weeks of crickets here. Anybody got anything interesting or to provide hope for this class finishing strong?

[MetEdDawg]

Jayden Hobson decommits from Southern Miss.

He was on campus this past weekend. Guess he might be a potential take for us?

[Cooterpoot]

We robbing USM and SELA blind

[HancockCountyDog]

We robbing USM and SELA blind

I would think we should be able to go after 3-5 difference makers a recruiting cycle with NIL deals. Who are those guys this cycle. The only name I know of is Isaac Smith.

[Cooterpoot]

I would think we should be able to go after 3-5 difference makers a recruiting cycle with NIL deals. Who are those guys this cycle. The only name I know of is Isaac Smith.

Our recruiting is off the damn rails. We're sucking!

[msu15]

Our recruiting is off the damn rails. We're sucking!

Starts with the head coach

[KOdawg1]

We just offered a receiver from NWR that doesn't even have a 247 profile and I'm pretty sure he's got 0 other offers. We're recruiting him as a safety. It's not a PWO. It's a legit scholarship offer to a player that doesn't even play DB for his team.

I officially throw my hands up with this staff and recruiting. Our DB has been a train wreck since Leach got here. Missed evaluations, reaching on G5 level players, constant shuffling on the board. I don't get it.

[WhiskeyPirate]

We just offered a receiver from NWR that doesn't even have a 247 profile and I'm pretty sure he's got 0 other offers. We're recruiting him as a safety. It's not a PWO. It's a legit scholarship offer to a player that doesn't even play DB for his team.

I officially throw my hands up with this staff and recruiting. Our DB has been a train wreck since Leach got here. Missed evaluations, reaching on G5 level players, constant shuffling on the board. I don't get it.

Genespage nonsense

[KOdawg1]

Genespage nonsense
Not sure how it's nonsense. The kid isn't an SEC player

[BankerDog]

Not sure how it's nonsense. The kid isn't an SEC player

Are you a scout or have an evaluation ability? Hughes offered him personally, you know Tony Hughes who 3/4 of this board was adamant we had to keep. Kids develop late-B-Mac, Elgton Jenkins, Taveze Calhoun, JT Gray, AJ Jefferson, Ben Beckwith, De?Runnya Wilson, Kevin Dockery, Willie Evans, Titus Brown, Banks, Dantzler, D?Cam,

Also-kid has better stats than Ayden Williams, the 4* from Ridgeland. And if he had Trey Petty throwing to him would have better stats than Burnside.

But hey let?s a knock a kid we offer when the last few ?top notch WRs? in the state have flopped in the state. Dannis Jackson, Tobias, Markell Pack, Alex Adams, Deion Smith, even Dontea Jones, etc.

Weren?t you the one several years ago saying Harmon wouldn?t be at State or wasn?t a D1 player?

[WhiskeyPirate]

Are you a scout or have an evaluation ability? Hughes offered him personally, you know Tony Hughes who 3/4 of this board was adamant we had to keep. Kids develop late-B-Mac, Elgton Jenkins, Taveze Calhoun, JT Gray, AJ Jefferson, Ben Beckwith, De?Runnya Wilson, Kevin Dockery, Willie Evans, Titus Brown, Banks, Dantzler, D?Cam,

Also-kid has better stats than Ayden Williams, the 4* from Ridgeland. And if he had Trey Petty throwing to him would have better stats than Burnside.

But hey let?s a knock a kid we offer when the last few ?top notch WRs? in the state have flopped in the state. Dannis Jackson, Tobias, Markell Pack, Alex Adams, Deion Smith, even Dontea Jones, etc.

Weren?t you the one several years ago saying Harmon wouldn?t be at State or wasn?t a D1 player?

KO is just regurgitating what a handful of morons blathered about on the cesspool known as genespage.

This kid is an athletic freak, pretty obvious to anyone who watches his film, three sport athlete. It’s easy to see why he was offered.

Absolute morons

[KOdawg1]

KO is just regurgitating what a handful of morons blathered about on the cesspool known as genespage.

This kid is an athletic freak, pretty obvious to anyone who watches his film, three sport athlete. It’s easy to see why he was offered.

Absolute morons

"Athletic freak" LOL

He has zero other offers. He's a reach.

[KOdawg1]

Are you a scout or have an evaluation ability? Hughes offered him personally, you know Tony Hughes who 3/4 of this board was adamant we had to keep. Kids develop late-B-Mac, Elgton Jenkins, Taveze Calhoun, JT Gray, AJ Jefferson, Ben Beckwith, De?Runnya Wilson, Kevin Dockery, Willie Evans, Titus Brown, Banks, Dantzler, D?Cam,

Also-kid has better stats than Ayden Williams, the 4* from Ridgeland. And if he had Trey Petty throwing to him would have better stats than Burnside.

But hey let?s a knock a kid we offer when the last few ?top notch WRs? in the state have flopped in the state. Dannis Jackson, Tobias, Markell Pack, Alex Adams, Deion Smith, even Dontea Jones, etc.

Weren?t you the one several years ago saying Harmon wouldn?t be at State or wasn?t a D1 player?

For every Diamond in the rough that worked out for us, I can name 10 that didn't. No one remembers the Jay Hampton's or William Hardrick's that are busts. Typically if we're the only one recruiting a kid, he's not an SEC player. It's nothing personal on the kid. It's just the way it is.

Our DB recruiting the last few years has been absolutely sad. Only a true sunshine troll would say different.

I was all for us taking Harmon given I watched him play in high school. Not sure where you pulled that from. I thought he was an OM lean for a long time, which he was until they cooled off on him. But I never said he wasn't an SEC player.

[yjnkdawg]

I wish this recruiting thread would just give viable info on who we are recruiting, who is going to commit, etc. and not the sky is falling, I know more about evaluating players than our coaches, or it's CML"s fault, etc. but I guess that's just unrealistic thinking that will ever happen on here.

[KOdawg1]

I wish this recruiting thread would just give viable info on who we are recruiting, who is going to commit, etc. and not the sky is falling, I know more about evaluating players than our coaches, or it's CML"s fault, etc. but I guess that's just unrealistic thinking that will ever happen on here.
The sky isn't falling, I just don't understand the offer and neither do those who cover recruiting for a living (ie. Paul Jones). I've never claimed to know more than our coaches. Please point me to where I said I have. But I'm not just going to blindly say that this makes sense when it doesn't.

This is a recruiting thread where we're discussing *checks notes* recruiting. I'm sorry you don't like the the way it's being discussed. Feel free to disagree or just don't read it. Those are your two options

[yjnkdawg]

The sky isn't falling, I just don't understand the offer and neither do those who cover recruiting for a living (ie. Paul Jones). I've never claimed to know more than our coaches. Please point me to where I said I have. But I'm not just going to blindly say that this makes sense when it doesn't.

This is a recruiting thread where we're discussing *checks notes* recruiting. I'm sorry you don't like the the way it's being discussed. Feel free to disagree or just don't read it. Those are your two options

The sky is falling and the CML comments had no reference to you. I'm sorry I made that post.

[WhiskeyPirate]

I wish this recruiting thread would just give viable info on who we are recruiting, who is going to commit, etc. and not the sky is falling, I know more about evaluating players than our coaches, or it's CML"s fault, etc. but I guess that's just unrealistic thinking that will ever happen on here.

I’ll trust Hughes and my own eyes don’t disagree. He’s got to have a 40+ vertical if you watch his basketball film, probably the highest on our team. He didn’t play football until his j7nior year and is under recruited. He’s a tremendous athlete.

[Cooterpoot]

We've got a shot at the DE from Texas who's legit. We've got to pull Smith at Safety. But we don't have a lot of other upper end talent on the line. Couple LBs were looking at. Juco DL that's a good player. But just not much out there. We've got to hit on the portal hard. We'll be lucky to be top 30 in recruiting and that should be unacceptable.
Stop offering kids with no offers other than Juco, SELA, and USM.

[MetEdDawg]

I know Cunningham is a sophomore but he will be on campus again today.

He seems to like us. I know that's going to be a long battle but I hope we can find a way to close that one over the next year or so. He would be the best skill position player we've ever had on campus.

[Pancho]

I saw a freshman DL @ New Albany this season. He's 6'4" and 285 lbs at 15 years old. I am told that he did attend camp at MSU this past summer. Last name is Tucker.

[Cooterpoot]

I know Cunningham is a sophomore but he will be on campus again today.

He seems to like us. I know that's going to be a long battle but I hope we can find a way to close that one over the next year or so. He would be the best skill position player we've ever had on campus.

He likes UGA too, a lot

[Cooterpoot]

There's a ton of potential young talent in MS in the current Soph and FR classes.

[Goldendawg]

All I know is what I read here or the lists on genespage, but it really concerns me that we are trying to flip low ranked players from non-SEC programs and players not even rated this late in the season. Hope there are better things going on behind the scenes. Hail State!

[msu15]

All I know is what I read here or the lists on genespage, but it really concerns me that we are trying to flip low ranked players from non-SEC programs and players not even rated this late in the season. Hope there are better things going on behind the scenes. Hail State!

I do think our increased NIL will help some.

[BankerDog]

FYI 84 from UGA?2* with only UGA and Vandy offers. Killing us tonight.

[Hambone]

Keyboard cowboys know it all.

[KOdawg1]

Keyboard cowboys know it all.

Thanks for sharing.

[KOdawg1]

FYI 84 from UGA?2* with only UGA and Vandy offers. Killing us tonight.

UGA and Vandy are more than this dude we just offered has. You're not making the point you think you're making.

[Hambone]

Vandy was the kids only offer until Georgia offered.

Kind of is the point.

[KOdawg1]

Vandy was the kids only offer until Georgia offered.

Kind of is the point.

Uh no it's not.

Vandy is a D1 offer. He also had offers from Army, Georgia Southern, Kent State, Furman, among others.

The kid we offered this week doesn't even have that. He may have Juco offers. But he has no P5 offers. He has no D1 offers other than us. He has no D2 offers.

It's not the same.

[msu15]

Vandy was the kids only offer until Georgia offered.

Kind of is the point.

Swing and a miss by you bud.

[Hambone]

Only went by what was on the tv. Bud

[msu15]

Only went by what was on the tv. Bud

Na, you tried to correct him when you didn't comprehend his point, and now you refuse to admit that you're wrong. Explains a lot about you as a person.

[KOdawg1]

Only went by what was on the tv. Bud

Go to bed. You're not making sense and you're making yourself look silly

[BuckyIsAB****]

We just offered a receiver from NWR that doesn't even have a 247 profile and I'm pretty sure he's got 0 other offers. We're recruiting him as a safety. It's not a PWO. It's a legit scholarship offer to a player that doesn't even play DB for his team.

I officially throw my hands up with this staff and recruiting. Our DB has been a train wreck since Leach got here. Missed evaluations, reaching on G5 level players, constant shuffling on the board. I don't get it.

If he is number 1 for NWR then I have no problem with it. He is a baller

[KOdawg1]

If he is number 1 for NWR then I have no problem with it. He is a baller

Zero other offers. That's all I need to see.

[SilentSteel16]

Was at the game and I saw the Crocker kid from TN and Holy crap, he is a big dude. There were a bunch of other really large bodies with recruit badges as well.

[Hambone]

Na, you tried to correct him when you didn't comprehend his point, and now you refuse to admit that you're wrong. Explains a lot about you as a person.

I see you’re on a kick attacking multiple people on this board. Yes, I was wrong. Have never had a problem admitting that. Go ahead and give me some negative feedback on this as well.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Zero other offers. That's all I need to see.

Well he played at Yazoo every year before this and has only played football for a year. But carry on.

[KOdawg1]

Well he played at Yazoo every year before this and has only played football for a year. But carry on.
not you being biased towards a Jackson area kid. You've never done that before

[BuckyIsAB****]

not you being biased towards a Jackson area kid. You've never done that before

Yeah they all turned out pretty good. Pretty sure both of them hold records at the school they went to.

[Cooterpoot]

Our recruiting has been trash this year. You guys can debate whichever kid you want, but that won't change the fact that only Vandy has fewer 4 stars and we're offering kids with no offers. Dan Mullen was better than this. This staff is failing in a big way.

[KOdawg1]

Our recruiting has been trash this year. You guys can debate whichever kid you want, but that won't change the fact that only Vandy has fewer 4 stars and we're offering kids with no offers. Dan Mullen was better than this. This staff is failing in a big way.

Correct. Underperforming on and off the field

[Saltydog]

LSU may be an obstacle for us with Smith. They've moved up the list.

[Goldendawg]

According to genespage article, we our trying to flip Pitt's highest commit, .8811 composite, a CB from GA, Brice Pollock. We seem to be trying to target a few of others' commits.

[ZedFedder]

If LSU wants Smith, it will be hard to compete $$$ wise.

[msu15]

If LSU wants Smith, it will be hard to compete $$$ wise.

Yep. Our current staff has not shown me anything in the last two years that gives me any confidence that we would win that battle.

[dawgman15]

Yep. Our current staff has not shown me anything in the last two years that gives me any confidence that we would win that battle.

What staff has MSU ever had that would give you confidence in taking a player from LSU? It seems like everytime LSU wants a player we are interested in they go LSU

[Catfish]

What staff has MSU ever had that would give you confidence in taking a player from LSU? It seems like everytime LSU wants a player we are interested in they go LSU

"Show me the money"

[Leeshouldveflanked]

When was the last time we got a player LSU wanted?

[Pancho]

Linebacker a couple years back

[Bothrops]

Is it just me, or do the recruiting networks seem to think less of Mississippi high school products than ever before? When it's November and I see this many 84, 85, 86 rated players something tells be that people aren't doing their due diligence. Some of these players happen to be in line with their rating, but how would they know? Because others have had very good senior film - to the notice of - no one. It's obvious Espn has been conspicuously AWOL in Mississippi the last 2 or 3 cycles. That affects the composite scoring on 247. Now 247 is really dragging. After scouting the very top 4 or 5 players, it's almost as if Mississippi has turned into Kansas. I view these highlight videos, I read the stats, new offers may, or may not roll in, but one thing doesn't change. Interesting...

[Catfish]

Is it just me, or do the recruiting networks seem to think less of Mississippi high school products than ever before? When it's November and I see this many 84, 85, 86 rated players something tells be that people aren't doing their due diligence. Some of these players happen to be in line with their rating, but how would they know? Because others have had very good senior film - to the notice of - no one. It's obvious Espn has been conspicuously AWOL in Mississippi the last 2 or 3 cycles. That affects the composite scoring on 247. Now 247 is really dragging. After scouting the very top 4 or 5 players, it's almost as if Mississippi has turned into Kansas. I view these highlight videos, I read the stats, new offers may, or may not roll in, but one thing doesn't change. Interesting...

You could put a hell of a team together with just Mississippi players.

[KOdawg1]

Smoke that Khamauri Rogers could soon be hitting the portal and we would be a likely landing spot.

Apparently KR's dad wasn't happy with Critobal, and Mario came out and basically said "Well, bye."

[Goldendawg]

Smoke that Khamauri Rogers could soon be hitting the portal and we would be a likely landing spot.

Apparently KR's dad wasn't happy with Critobal, and Mario came out and basically said "Well, bye."

Just looked at his bio on the Miami site. Lists his measurements, then you can clink to buy his hoodies & men's/women's t shirts. Sure big Miami boosters buy hundreds. Miami program was dirty long before NIL, now all legal in the Wild, Wild West.

[ZedFedder]

Any info on the new JUCO running back commit?

[Goldendawg]

Any info on the new JUCO running back commit?

He committed to us today. Yet to be ranked by 24/7. Probably means we don't flip MS HS RB committed to Oregon.

[HancockCountyDog]

Any info on the new JUCO running back commit?

Let?s hope he has great hands.

[Bothrops]

He committed to us today. Yet to be ranked by 24/7. Probably means we don't flip MS HS RB committed to Oregon.

It's a good get, he can play. Not flashy but well built and can get yards after contact.

[ZedFedder]

Let’s hope for Vick Ballard 2.0!

[AROB44]

Let's hope he has SPEED.....something that is really lacking on our team.

[Bothrops]

Let’s hope for Vick Ballard 2.0!

He ain't Vick Ballard

[Pancho]

who does he resemble?

[Saltydog]

When was the last time we got a player LSU wanted?

I'm gonna say Dak Prescott and if I recall they didn't recruit him initially and then at the last minute came in and tried to flip him and he didn't bite.........

[BuckyIsAB****]

Is it just me, or do the recruiting networks seem to think less of Mississippi high school products than ever before? When it's November and I see this many 84, 85, 86 rated players something tells be that people aren't doing their due diligence. Some of these players happen to be in line with their rating, but how would they know? Because others have had very good senior film - to the notice of - no one. It's obvious Espn has been conspicuously AWOL in Mississippi the last 2 or 3 cycles. That affects the composite scoring on 247. Now 247 is really dragging. After scouting the very top 4 or 5 players, it's almost as if Mississippi has turned into Kansas. I view these highlight videos, I read the stats, new offers may, or may not roll in, but one thing doesn't change. Interesting...

The problem is all the same people that make judgements on our coaches evaluations are the same ones that trust some random dude who works for 247 and might go to 3 high school games a years evaluation and preach it as law

[Commercecomet24]

The problem is all the same people that make judgements on our coaches evaluations are the same ones that trust some random dude who works for 247 and might go to 3 high school games a years evaluation and preach it as law

Right on Bucky!

[Cooterpoot]

The problem is all the same people that make judgements on our coaches evaluations are the same ones that trust some random dude who works for 247 and might go to 3 high school games a years evaluation and preach it as law

Our recruiting isn't good. You can try to spin it however you like, but we're struggling right now. Can it change? Yes, but we're offering guys that will never touch the field here right now and that's fact.

[KOdawg1]

Our recruiting isn't good. You can try to spin it however you like, but we're struggling right now. Can it change? Yes, but we're offering guys that will never touch the field here right now and that's fact.

Correct

[Goldendawg]

Our recruiting isn't good. You can try to spin it however you like, but we're struggling right now. Can it change? Yes, but we're offering guys that will never touch the field here right now and that's fact.

We are trying to flip OL previously committed to USM from Tuscaloosa of all places. Hope he is a late bloomer/diamond in the rough type who has been over looked. Hope we are on some players that are not known about by the average fan. IYOK or Ari, y'all got any news?

[Maverick91]

Our recruiting isn't good. You can try to spin it however you like, but we're struggling right now. Can it change? Yes, but we're offering guys that will never touch the field here right now and that's fact.

Why though? Is it because we missed on dudes early and we just need to fill spots for blocking dummy drills? Or is it because we just suck at recruiting?

[Cooterpoot]

Why though? Is it because we missed on dudes early and we just need to fill spots for blocking dummy drills? Or is it because we just suck at recruiting?

Well, we drug our feet on some guys, offered guys with no offers, can't get DBs in the boat again, but we just aren't pulling our weight. We don't fill many needs in the portal like we should. We've still got some guys out there but this is going to be a weak class overall no matter. I think we just don't recruit well. They've had one good class. Hopefully that class gets on the field soon.

[duncflydawg]

And I believe LSU wanted DAK as a Tight End not a QB.

[duncflydawg]

Well, we drug our feet on some guys, offered guys with no offers, can't get DBs in the boat again, but we just aren't pulling our weight. We don't fill many needs in the portal like we should. We've still got some guys out there but this is going to be a weak class overall no matter. I think we just don't recruit well. They've had one good class. Hopefully that class gets on the field soon.
How much of that is Leach? I know we gave Mullen a ton of crap for being a lazy recruiter, but is Leach any better? Honest question.

[Maverick91]

Well, we drug our feet on some guys, offered guys with no offers, can't get DBs in the boat again, but we just aren't pulling our weight. We don't fill many needs in the portal like we should. We've still got some guys out there but this is going to be a weak class overall no matter. I think we just don't recruit well. They've had one good class. Hopefully that class gets on the field soon.


Welp they better ramp that crap up.

[Pancho]

We are trying to flip OL previously committed to USM from Tuscaloosa of all places. Hope he is a late bloomer/diamond in the rough type who has been over looked. Hope we are on some players that are not known about by the average fan. IYOK or Ari, y'all got any news?

IYOK now works at Auburn

[Bothrops]

Welp they better ramp that crap up.

The problems I have with the current class is not already having 3 or 4 DL guys in the boat, and a legit SEC CB. I'm ok everywhere else at the moment. We desperately need to land Isaac Smith, however.

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

At the end of 3 yrs we are STILL killing ourselves with SENSELESS penalties like this falls??? That's on coaching. Leach HAS TO retire or be let go next week.

ETA: Doesn't matter if we win or lose tonight....either way, he needs to go.

[Pancho]

oh okay

[RisperDawg]

So angry after a win you post this in the recruiting thread. Lol.

[yjnkdawg]

At the end of 3 yrs we are STILL killing ourselves with SENSELESS penalties like this falls??? That's on coaching. Leach HAS TO retire or be let go next week.

ETA: Doesn't matter if we win or lose tonight....either way, he needs to go.

Well unless you become our AD and Keenum gives you the go ahead to fire CML, I guess you need to just keep on bitching.

[msu15]

At the end of 3 yrs we are STILL killing ourselves with SENSELESS penalties like this falls??? That's on coaching. Leach HAS TO retire or be let go next week.

ETA: Doesn't matter if we win or lose tonight....either way, he needs to go.

This is the recruiting thread

[Commercecomet24]

At the end of 3 yrs we are STILL killing ourselves with SENSELESS penalties like this falls??? That's on coaching. Leach HAS TO retire or be let go next week.

ETA: Doesn't matter if we win or lose tonight....either way, he needs to go.

Wrong thread buddy. Great post****

[KOdawg1]

New commitment. Jayden Hobson.

OL from Alabama. 6'5, 290 lbs.

Moves pretty well on film. Was a USM commit and has other offers from Mizzou and West Virginia.

I don't hate it.

[HancockCountyDog]

We need to keep momentum going and close strong.

We lose a bunch on defense, and need to keep adding.

[Pancho]

who is gone on D?

[HancockCountyDog]

who is gone on D?

No need to repeat all the names, but we lose some war daddies.

[Ari Gold]

Honestly with the state of college football, NIL and the transfer non sense
High school football recruiting IMO is all but meaningless
Yes we need to close on some guys and have a couple of guys in the boat now we need
But there is no need to even follow it that close anymore

Everyone is a recruit now.. high school and college

Our biggest get last year , was the NIL deal with Wheat to keep him at State

[HancockCountyDog]

Honestly with the state of college football, NIL and the transfer non sense
High school football recruiting IMO is all but meaningless
Yes we need to close on some guys and have a couple of guys in the boat now we need
But there is no need to even follow it that close anymore

Everyone is a recruit now.. high school and college

Our biggest get last year , was the NIL deal with Wheat to keep him at State

Does he have any more eligibility? Guy was a monster all year. He will end up being a mid round pick that becomes a pro bowler.

[msu15]

Does he have any more eligibility? Guy was a monster all year. He will end up being a mid round pick that becomes a pro bowler.

Na this was his Covid year. Great bulldog career

[HancockCountyDog]

Na this was his Covid year. Great bulldog career

Wheat, Watson, Cam Young, Forbes, Crumedy, Charleton and Jalen Green were all great bulldogs.

I wish Crumedy was coming back, but my understanding is he is leaving.

I'm not worried about the secondary, but our front 7 needs an infusion of talent, because I think all of the guys above will make an NFL roster or practice squad.

[Maverick91]

Honestly with the state of college football, NIL and the transfer non sense
High school football recruiting IMO is all but meaningless
Yes we need to close on some guys and have a couple of guys in the boat now we need
But there is no need to even follow it that close anymore

Everyone is a recruit now.. high school and college

Our biggest get last year , was the NIL deal with Wheat to keep him at State

Who was poaching him?

[msu15]

Who was poaching him?

NFL

[Maverick91]

NFL

We beat the NFL that is pretty good. We should use that as a recruiting tool.

[Ari Gold]

Who was poaching him?

Lsu

[msu15]

Lsu

Wow that was a massive win

[Maverick91]

Lsu

Yeah… thats a pretty huge win. Thanks for the info.

[Tater]

Hearing Tyrese Chambers WR from FIU is mad he stayed at FIU this year and is gonna transfer to us now like he should have before.

[msu15]

Hearing Tyrese Chambers WR from FIU is mad he stayed at FIU this year and is gonna transfer to us now like he should have before.

Why did he not transfer last year again?

[Cooterpoot]

Hearing Tyrese Chambers WR from FIU is mad he stayed at FIU this year and is gonna transfer to us now like he should have before.

That's a negative.

[Cooterpoot]

Looks like we're about to flip a great DB recruit. He's one of about 4 good recruits we're still on. Hopefully we get him in the boat.

[PikeDawg15]

Looks like we're about to flip a great DB recruit. He's one of about 4 good recruits we're still on. Hopefully we get him in the boat.

Must not be Isaac Smith because he is uncommitted.

[shrimp]

It’s Brice Pollock from Georgia. Just decommitted from Pitt.


Must not be Isaac Smith because he is uncommitted.

[msu15]

Must not be Isaac Smith because he is uncommitted.

I will be absolutely stunned if that kid ends up in Maroon.

[Cooterpoot]

I will be absolutely stunned if that kid ends up in Maroon.

I will not be. But LSU is lurking.

[HancockCountyDog]

I will not be. But LSU is lurking.

The kid has been here a lot, I think we will be in it to the end.

I wish we could get in with the Dowdell kid. He is the best RB to come through the state since Akers. If he goes to Oregon, he will put up video game numbers against Pac-12 defenses.

[Pancho]

only thing that mite get Dowdell is a huger NIL than the ducks are offering him

[Goldendawg]

Don't subscribe to genespage so couldn't read article but said we had offered a instate WR, Brendan Brown, 6'2", 185, who had visited. Couldn't find him in 24/7 top 30 prospects. Finally found him as he is unranked and we are his only offer to date. Late bloomer, diamond in the rough, under the radar, other?

[HancockCountyDog]

only thing that mite get Dowdell is a huger NIL than the ducks are offering him

I've been told that it is substantial and that a few people around him are very happy with his decision.

Of course he will probably switch to LSU now, but I've been told from people that should know that it is done.

[BankerDog]

Don't subscribe to genespage so couldn't read article but said we had offered a instate WR, Brendan Brown, 6'2", 185, who had visited. Couldn't find him in 24/7 top 30 prospects. Finally found him as he is unranked and we are his only offer to date. Late bloomer, diamond in the rough, under the radar, other?

Has only played 2 years of football. Tony Hughes loves what he sees with him and wants him as that Dog Safety; Hughes offered him.

[Pancho]

any interest in Leary and Holden transferring from Bama? both WR

[Goldendawg]

Why is ranking for JC players so low or so slow to happen? Jacoby Bellazar is ranked 8th Nationally, 2nd at his position, and 3rd in the state, good for a ranking of .8619. RB Jeffery Pittman has yet to even be ranked. ????????????

[Goldendawg]

Article on KY site. We are getting an official visit from one of their commits OL Koby Keenum, 6'4", 300, Florence, Al, .8669. Maybe we have a Merry Flipmas and get him and the GA DB who just de-committed from Pitt. Hail State!

[PCHSDawg]

Article on KY site. We are getting an official visit from one of their commits OL Koby Keenum, 6'4", 300, Florence, Al, .8669. Maybe we have a Merry Flipmas and get him and the GA DB who just de-committed from Pitt. Hail State!
Isn't this Brandon Walker's cousin?

[Goldendawg]

Isn't this Brandon Walker's cousin?

Don't know. Good friend and State fan (Very knowledgeable, longtime season ticket holder in football, men's BB, baseball) from Florence, Al. says he is the real deal and would be a good get. Hail State!

[Wade Garrett]

Yes it is

[Leroy Jenkins]

I will be absolutely stunned if that kid ends up in Maroon.

About 45 minutes after the we beat OM......

https://twitter.com/isaacdsmith/status/1596002673324658693?s=20&t=NH_trtzLpJlwEnmS9zrTlg


LSU is making things interesting, but I definitely wouldn't be "stunned", it's more like 50/50. I would have been shocked last year at this time with him being an OM legacy and all. But where we are today, I wouldn't trade places with anyone.

[Ari Gold]

Issac Smith would be a huge pull and we have done a kick ass job recruiting him. I like our chances
He would play a lot as a true freshman

[PMDawg]

What's the scoop on Mr. Football, Dante Dowdell from Picayune? Why Oregon? Is it totally NIL? Are we not trying to put together a package? Or has that ship completely sailed? Maybe if Lanning moves to a new school?

[HancockCountyDog]

What's the scoop on Mr. Football, Dante Dowdell from Picayune? Why Oregon? Is it totally NIL? Are we not trying to put together a package? Or has that ship completely sailed? Maybe if Lanning moves to a new school?

I've been told that it was a very solid NIL deal for a RB and that the people around him are very happy as well.

I don't think we will spend our NIL money on RB's anyway.

[bulldawg28]

I've been told that it was a very solid NIL deal for a RB and that the people around him are very happy as well.

I don't think we will spend our NIL money on RB's anyway.

NIL will be spent on any impact player

[Cooterpoot]

What's the scoop on Mr. Football, Dante Dowdell from Picayune? Why Oregon? Is it totally NIL? Are we not trying to put together a package? Or has that ship completely sailed? Maybe if Lanning moves to a new school?

You can blame our previous recruiting numb nut for screwing up Dowdell's recruitment. The kid probably would've jump on our offer had we not 17d it up. He's a State fan.

[Cooterpoot]

Big recruiting weekend coming up and we do expect some good news.

[Saltydog]

I will be absolutely stunned if that kid ends up in Maroon.

His recruitment has been all over the place. UM was the clear fav for a long time. Vandy was in the pic and then we made huge inroads with him, problem is so has LSU. Not sure what their db board looks like but this one will likely come down to NIL. I don't like our chances against LSU if that holds true.

[RisperDawg]

You can blame our previous recruiting numb nut for screwing up Dowdell's recruitment. The kid probably would've jump on our offer had we not 17d it up. He's a State fan.

Since you seem to have some insight, in general, do RBs want to come here and play in this system? Two years ago when they were getting blown up immediately after the catch, I'd have said absolutely not. However, Marks and DJ seem to have come into their own and aren't crash test dummies anymore now.

[HancockCountyDog]

Since you seem to have some insight, in general, do RBs want to come here and play in this system? Two years ago when they were getting blown up immediately after the catch, I'd have said absolutely not. However, Marks and DJ seem to have come into their own and aren't crash test dummies anymore now.

The problem is that I struggle to see how we get a RB drafted. I think DJ and Marks are really good backs and would be featured backs at several P5 schools. The problem for us is that they simply don't get the opportunity here.

[MrCoachKlein]

The problem is that I struggle to see how we get a RB drafted. I think DJ and Marks are really good backs and would be featured backs at several P5 schools. The problem for us is that they simply don't get the opportunity here.

You could make the argument they develop NFL skills better here (pass pro and receiving ability).

[Commercecomet24]

You could make the argument they develop NFL skills better here (pass pro and receiving ability).

This. Outside of a Derrick Henry there really aren't "feature backs" in the nfl anymore. They have to pass protect and catch the ball now, those are the most important things now, and DJ and Marks both do that well, on top of displaying the running skills they have.

[HancockCountyDog]

You could make the argument they develop NFL skills better here (pass pro and receiving ability).

The problem with that is that look who the NFL is drafting.

Breece Hall
Kenneth Walker
Zamir White
Isaiah Spiller
Brian Robinson
Tyrion Davis-Price
Kevin Harris
James Cook

I could go on - but you get the point. These guys ran the ball. DJ and Marks averaged less than 10 carries a game. Its good for tread on the tire, but teams are going to want to know if the guy they are drafting can carry it 200 times in a season, unless you are a speed freak then they don't care.

[Leroy Jenkins]

LSU is making things interesting, but I definitely wouldn't be "stunned", it's more like 50/50. I would have been shocked last year at this time with him being an OM legacy and all. But where we are today, I wouldn't trade places with anyone.

Revised prediction 60/40, State.

[MrCoachKlein]

The problem with that is that look who the NFL is drafting.

Breece Hall
Kenneth Walker
Zamir White
Isaiah Spiller
Brian Robinson
Tyrion Davis-Price
Kevin Harris
James Cook

I could go on - but you get the point. These guys ran the ball. DJ and Marks averaged less than 10 carries a game. Its good for tread on the tire, but teams are going to want to know if the guy they are drafting can carry it 200 times in a season, unless you are a speed freak then they don't care.

Breece and Walker do both very well. Cook is used more as a receiving back.

Most teams without a Barkley or Jacobs or Henry have a 1-2 punch with a between the tackles runner and a passing back. I don't think it hurts us, but it does make us more attractive to the latter type.

[HancockCountyDog]

Breece and Walker do both very well. Cook is used more as a receiving back.

Most teams without a Barkley or Jacobs or Henry have a 1-2 punch with a between the tackles runner and a passing back. I don't think it hurts us, but it does make us more attractive to the latter type.

Sure - but my point is that NFL teams draft the guys who carry the ball a ton in college.

[MrCoachKlein]

Sure - but my point is that NFL teams draft the guys who carry the ball a ton in college.

Carries per year
Marks 93
Johnson 76.3
James Cook 57.5

Yes I cherry picked the receiving back from your list. Point is, if they test above the athletic threshold, they will be drafted if not they'll probably still get a chance on a practice squad. They have plenty of carries on tape, and lots of teams have drafted backs that only ran out of shotgun in college.

[Cooterpoot]

We don't have NFL RB talent here. Maybe they make a practice squad. We aren't recruiting SEC RBs much. We go get smallish quick guys that fit the scheme. We have to hope for a guy like a Darrin Sproles. The big guys we get are generally just slower between the tackle guys. We could've pulled Dowdell. We 17 d that up.

[HancockCountyDog]

We don't have NFL RB talent here. Maybe they make a practice squad. We aren't recruiting SEC RBs much. We go get smallish quick guys that fit the scheme. We have to hope for a guy like a Darrin Sproles. The big guys we get are generally just slower between the tackle guys. We could've pulled Dowdell. We 17 d that up.

As long as he goes to Oregon and not the bears, I don?t care.

Kid is a difference maker.

[KOdawg1]

Gabriel Moore commits

[HancockCountyDog]

Gabriel Moore commits

Information?

Don?t know who that is.

[Goldendawg]

Information?

Don?t know who that is.

6'4", 250 DL from Louisville, MS., .8600. Moves us up to #31 and JC RB still not ranked. Go to genespage, clink on FB REC at top, then Team Rankings, Commits, Targets, whatever you are interested in. Is Free. Hail State!

[msu15]

Gabriel Moore commits

He related to Charles?

[Travelingdawg]

His brother.

[msu15]

His brother.

Wow good to see there weren't any burnt bridges there(I know it wasn't our fault)

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

By all accounts, Gabriel is quite different from his brother. Also, I think his ranking is a little low. He hasn?t gone to any camps.

[boot]

I could see Johnson getting drafted late or making a practice squad because of his size and ability to break tackles in space. Marks probably not

[Cooterpoot]

By all accounts, Gabriel is quite different from his brother. Also, I think his ranking is a little low. He hasn?t gone to any camps.

Extremely raw, will be a couple years before he sees any significant playing time.

[Tough Dawg]

FSU was in Fulton today visiting Isaac Smith. MSU is still in the lead however I?d say.

[Goldendawg]

Think OM will try to get back in on Smith as they lost 4 star S from St Louis area to MO?

[Tough Dawg]

I don?t. The OM ship has sailed for Isaac in my opinion. I think he?s loyal to the efforts of MSU in the long run. As you know he?s above average from an intellectual standpoint. Med school will be there no matter where he decides to play football.

[Chuck3124]

Anybody know anything on Carsson DeYoung from Hinds? Announced earlier he was continuing his athletic career at State

[Goldendawg]

Coach Leach had a in-house with Oregon commit 4 star RB Donte Dowdell today.

[msu15]

Anybody know anything on Carsson DeYoung from Hinds? Announced earlier he was continuing his athletic career at State
Walk on

[Pancho]

I doubt msu or the bear sharks can come up with the NIL amount he's said to have with the ducks

[Lord McBuckethead]

Well, that is unacceptable. If this is how recruiting works now, the MSU faithful needs to get a billionaire on the phone and make sure we have the funds to make whatever needed happen, every year. I am not a billionaire, but I am sure we have someone somewhere that is willing to put up around 5 million a year.

[Offshore Dawg]

not everyone wants to throw money at 20 year olds.

[MetEdDawg]

We got a commit coming? PJ posting his usual GIF.

[yjnkdawg]

We got a commit coming? PJ posting his usual GIF.

Brice Pollock - Good get !

[Cowbell]

I doubt msu or the bear sharks can come up with the NIL amount he's said to have with the ducks

If this is the case, I doubt leach would be there in person

[HancockCountyDog]

Any word on whether we are still chasing Caleb Bryant out of Vicksburg?

[Bothrops]

Any word on whether we are still chasing Caleb Bryant out of Vicksburg?

He's # 1 and maybe the only one on the list now according to PJ

[Tripp McNeely]

He's # 1 and maybe the only one on the list now according to PJ

Good lord no...he's a take, I guess, but there are 3-4 other guys that we have a good shot at that ate ahead of him

[HancockCountyDog]

Good lord no...he's a take, I guess, but there are 3-4 other guys that we have a good shot at that ate ahead of him

Kelley Jones is blowing up in Mobile.

We will be fighting for him the next few weeks.

[Ari Gold]

Chris Pearson from orange beach is a name to remember..
Don’t be surprised if we offer and he commits .. very underrated

[HancockCountyDog]

Chris Pearson from orange beach is a name to remember..
Don’t be surprised if we offer and he commits .. very underrated

Is he showing out at the All Star game practices like Kelley Jones?

[Leroy Jenkins]

FSU was in Fulton today visiting Isaac Smith. MSU is still in the lead however I?d say.

Arnett is there now.