UGH at UGA

[msstate7]

He won bc the other team had 28 walks and gave away 2 outs during big innings for them

He also had enough sense to know college hitters aren't patient, so make him be patient. When a pitcher is struggling with control and he finally throws a strike, he usually throws that pitch again

[HoopsDawg]

Strickland didn't, and he won.

Way to be results oriented. Hancock was 3-5. He's a senior. He has maybe the best strike zone awareness in school history. You don't give him the take sign. You trust him.

[StarkVegasSteve]

O/U 8 sec wins

Over, I think. I counted 10 last night.

[OLJWales]

O/U 8 sec wins

U

[msstate7]

Way to be results oriented. Hancock was 3-5. He's a senior. He has maybe the best strike zone awareness in school history. You don't give him the take sign. You trust him.

We don't have a guy on this roster you trust there. Tanner Allen, sure. This team doesn't have a tanner allen. And what did he do with that impatience hoops? A f'n pop up to center

[StarkVegasSteve]

Way to be results oriented. Hancock was 3-5. He's a senior. He has maybe the best strike zone awareness in school history. You don't give him the take sign. You trust him.

I trust Hancock to be smart right there. We have a year and a half of evidence that he knows what to do at the plate in that situation, unfortunately he tried to play hero instead of being smart.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I really need Arkansas to win tonight so we can announce Jans before he is even out of his press conference. We need some good news.

[maroonmania]

We would have needed at least 2 or 3 more runs in the top of the 9th to have had a chance to win based on the results in the bottom of the 9th.

[HoopsDawg]

We don't have a guy on this roster you trust there. Tanner Allen, sure. This team doesn't have a tanner allen. And what did he do with that impatience hoops? A f'n pop up to center

blame Hancock not Lemonis. Dumb to blame Lemon imo. And that had about a .0001% effect on why we lost this game.

[HoopsDawg]

I trust Hancock to be smart right there. We have a year and a half of evidence that he knows what to do at the plate in that situation, unfortunately he tried to play hero instead of being smart.

exactly.

[Commercecomet24]

This game was lost defensively. 2 ground balls(Hancock, Forsyth), 2 fly balls(James,cumbest) and a ball Logan Tanner boxed. We shouldn't have given up more than 3 runs in this game. Uga made every play on defense and we made zero.

[StarkVegasSteve]

We would have needed at least 2 or 3 more runs in the top of the 9th to have had a chance to win based on the results in the bottom of the 9th.

I said we probably needed 4, but with the results of the 9th we might have needed 8.

[magrooder]

This game was lost defensively. 2 ground balls(Hancock, Forsyth), 2 fly balls(James,cumbest) and a ball Logan Tanner boxed. We shouldn't have given up more than 3 runs in this game. Uga made every play on defense and we made zero.

This is absolutely correct. Make routine plays in the field and we win handily.

[msstate7]

blame Hancock not Lemonis. Dumb to blame Lemon imo. And that had about a .0001% effect on why we lost this game.

Maybe so, buy there's like 1% of hitters I trust in college there, and Hancock is not one of them. It's hard to patient in situations like that bc everyone wants to be a hero

[HoopsDawg]

This game was lost defensively. 2 ground balls(Hancock, Forsyth), 2 fly balls(James,cumbest) and a ball Logan Tanner boxed. We shouldn't have given up more than 3 runs in this game. Uga made every play on defense and we made zero.

Yes. Defense and 12 Walks. Cumbest didn't get charged with an error b/c he didn't touch the fly ball but that was 3 unearned runs + the additional 3 unearned runs on Forsythe and Hancock. That's 6 unearned runs + 12 walks. I can't remember if the James miss cost us runs. And you're right that LT miss in the B9 changed that inning.

[EdwardDrayton]

I really need Arkansas to win tonight so we can announce Jans before he is even out of his press conference. We need some good news.

Yeah, I’m just not feeling the splash with this but we’ll see. And we don’t seem to have folks lining up for the job.

[CadaverDawg]

I knew losing Sims and Simmons would hurt...but there is no excuse for what we have looked like. We should be deep enough to absorb a couple of losses to injury, so while I expected losing Sims to cause us several losses...it is not a good enough excuse to be this bad. We won the damn Title last year for crying out loud. This is pitiful

[Commercecomet24]

Yes. Defense and 12 Walks. Cumbest didn't get charged with an error b/c he didn't touch the fly ball but that was 3 unearned runs + the additional 3 unearned runs on Forsythe and Hancock. That's 6 unearned runs + 12 walks. I can't remember if the James miss cost us runs. And you're right that LT miss in the B9 changed that inning.

Yeah they scored their first run after James missed that pop up. Cumbest didn't get charged with an error but in my book it is, that has to be caught by an sec outfielder. The thing is none of those plays were difficult(including the Tanner miss). They were all big cause they cost us runs but Forsyths really killed us. Combine errors with walks and recipe for disaster. Don't remember a time we played this poorly defensively, smh.

[msstate7]

Man, I wish I had the will power to walk away from state sports till football

[HancockCountyDog]

I'll admit I have changed my expectations. I just want to make a regional and then see what happens.

[R2Dawg]

I knew losing Sims and Simmons would hurt...but there is no excuse for what we have looked like. We should be deep enough to absorb a couple of losses to injury, so while I expected losing Sims to cause us several losses...it is not a good enough excuse to be this bad. We won the damn Title last year for crying out loud. This is pitiful

Losing the pitching was bigger than just losing top pitching. When all the pitching moved up, the back end of the bullpen became SEC weekend guys. The back end of bull pen is really bad, no where near SEC quality. Just good enough to compete midweek and now they are thrust into SEC win games roles.

Agree poor fielding really hurt this game but 12 walks is not a game many teams win.

[R2Dawg]

I'll admit I have changed my expectations. I just want to make a regional and then see what happens.

To be honest I would take traveling as a 4 seed to a regional right now because we ain't making a regional without a miracle.

[Saltydog]

I'll admit I have changed my expectations. I just want to make a regional and then see what happens.

We aren't making a regional. We will be lucky get in the SEC tourney. Yes, we are that bad and the talent is not there to overcome it.

[basedog]

Pressure is on to NOT get swept. I think there was a reason for Cade pitching Sunday. Now we will see if it worked.

Gotta get Hunt well, he along with Sims and Cade were the top 3 in fall and pre spring practice. I'm betting after this weekend we will see some changes in pitching rotation.

I think like many we are hitting better, but back end pitching is not looking good.

[State82]

At least we won't be hearing all the rhetoric about how useless the SEC tournament is now. Assuming we make Hoover.

[Todd4State]

This game was lost defensively. 2 ground balls(Hancock, Forsyth), 2 fly balls(James,cumbest) and a ball Logan Tanner boxed. We shouldn't have given up more than 3 runs in this game. Uga made every play on defense and we made zero.

The silver lining there is defense can be improved. I don't know what's up with the dropped fly balls? That's like three in six games I think?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Pressure is on to NOT get swept. I think there was a reason for Cade pitching Sunday. Now we will see if it worked.

Gotta get Hunt well, he along with Sims and Cade were the top 3 in fall and pre spring practice. I'm betting after this weekend we will see some changes in pitching rotation.

I think like many we are hitting better, but back end pitching is not looking good.

We know Cade is going to go out there, battle, and throw strikes. That is all I can ask of a starter.

[Todd4State]

Pressure is on to NOT get swept. I think there was a reason for Cade pitching Sunday. Now we will see if it worked.

Gotta get Hunt well, he along with Sims and Cade were the top 3 in fall and pre spring practice. I'm betting after this weekend we will see some changes in pitching rotation.

I think like many we are hitting better, but back end pitching is not looking good.

Not sure what we can change there. Stinnett is limited to being a starter. So that creates a lack of flexibility. I kind of doubt Hunt is ready to jump back into the rotation at this point. My guess is we see him against Southern. Cade obviously has to stay in the rotation. So the only thing left to do is move Preston back to the pen but even then we would have to wait on Hunt to be ready.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

At least we won't be hearing all the rhetoric about how useless the SEC tournament is now. Assuming we make Hoover.

it 100% is useless if you're already in. It's useful for teams trying to play their way in though. Since we are MSU baseball we never have to talk about it from that perspective, but here we are...

[EdwardDrayton]

elitedawgs.com on my iPad just autocorrected to mehdawgs.com

[OLJWales]

I really need Arkansas to win tonight so we can announce Jans before he is even out of his press conference. We need some good news.

No. The further he goes the more exciting the presser will be. We can Wait.

[NCDawg]

This game was lost defensively. 2 ground balls(Hancock, Forsyth), 2 fly balls(James,cumbest) and a ball Logan Tanner boxed. We shouldn't have given up more than 3 runs in this game. Uga made every play on defense and we made zero.

We need somebody like that guy on your sign-in. Wouldn't hurt to have a Whitey Ford type pitcher also.

[Saltydog]

Pressure is on to NOT get swept. I think there was a reason for Cade pitching Sunday. Now we will see if it worked.

Gotta get Hunt well, he along with Sims and Cade were the top 3 in fall and pre spring practice. I'm betting after this weekend we will see some changes in pitching rotation.

I think like many we are hitting better, but back end pitching is not looking good.

Back end pitching isn't going to get any better. there's just a lack of quality arms there.

[Commercecomet24]

We need somebody like that guy on your sign-in. Wouldn't hurt to have a Whitey Ford type pitcher also.

That would definitely help!

[StarkVegasSteve]

No. The further he goes the more exciting the presser will be. We can Wait.

It also gives our wonderful AD more time to potentially screw it up, which he is more than capable of doing.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Back end pitching isn't going to get any better. there's just a lack of quality arms there.

Not a lack of quality arm talent, just a lack of consistent strike throwers.

[OLJWales]

It also gives our wonderful AD more time to potentially screw it up, which he is more than capable of doing.

You just brought back Schloss Nightmares.

[EdwardDrayton]

It also gives our wonderful AD more time to potentially screw it up, which he is more than capable of doing.

And the word ‘adroitly’ doesn’t exactly come to mind with the way he’s handled it so far.

[StarkVegasSteve]

You just brought back Schloss Nightmares.

Exactly. It would be in our best interest for NMSU to put up a spirited effort but fall short and have the university jet en route to get him before the final horn sounds.

[OLJWales]

Exactly. It would be in our best interest for NMSU to put up a spirited effort but fall short and have the university jet en route to get him before the final horn sounds.

I'm not gonna by that insurance for now and go without coverage hoping NMSU advances. Can you imagine how exciting it woulda be for him making the Elite 8 or something and Cohen not screwing up? Plus I prefer Pigs Squealing knowing bacon is on the way than them enjoying a mud bath.

[Saltydog]

Not a lack of quality arm talent, just a lack of consistent strike throwers.

It's both......

[StarkVegasSteve]

It's both......

See I think Fristoe and Tepper have all the arm talent in the world, but they just cannot find the strike zone with any consistency. Same with Tullar. He has wipeout stuff but zero consistency.

[HoopsDawg]

Not sure what we can change there. Stinnett is limited to being a starter. So that creates a lack of flexibility. I kind of doubt Hunt is ready to jump back into the rotation at this point. My guess is we see him against Southern. Cade obviously has to stay in the rotation. So the only thing left to do is move Preston back to the pen but even then we would have to wait on Hunt to be ready.

The only thing we could do is move Stinnett to Friday's. We are outmanned all season on Friday nights. Our best chance to get to a regional is to win Sat/Sun games. Maybe Preston and Cade with Hunt/B. Smith/Auger out of the pen gives us the best chance to do that. Basically we would just throw off on Friday's or Stinnett gets hot and we win a few Friday night games.

[msstate7]

The only thing we could do is move Stinnett to Friday's. We are outmanned all season on Friday nights. Our best chance to get to a regional is to win Sat/Sun games. Maybe Preston and Cade with Hunt/B. Smith/Auger out of the pen gives us the best chance to do that. Basically we would just throw off on Friday's or Stinnett gets hot and we win a few Friday night games.

Then do it right - start fristoe on Friday and save stinnett for pen.

[Saltydog]

See I think Fristoe and Tepper have all the arm talent in the world, but they just cannot find the strike zone with any consistency. Same with Tullar. He has wipeout stuff but zero consistency.

Tepper and Fristoe I would agree with. Tullar is a matchup guy. If we have to use him other than that, which we have, we're in trouble. The rest I would say are very average for SEC standards. The frosh (Walker, Kohn and Cheatham)just aren't ready for SEC.

[Todd4State]

The only thing we could do is move Stinnett to Friday's. We are outmanned all season on Friday nights. Our best chance to get to a regional is to win Sat/Sun games. Maybe Preston and Cade with Hunt/B. Smith/Auger out of the pen gives us the best chance to do that. Basically we would just throw off on Friday's or Stinnett gets hot and we win a few Friday night games.

I'm good with starting Stinnett on Friday's because I could see him catching lightning in a bottle every now and then. If he pitches like he did against Texas Tech I could see us stealing some Friday's.


Then do it right - start fristoe on Friday and save stinnett for pen.

Stinnett can not come out of the bullpen. Mentally he just can't do it.

[Todd4State]

See I think Fristoe and Tepper have all the arm talent in the world, but they just cannot find the strike zone with any consistency. Same with Tullar. He has wipeout stuff but zero consistency.

Foxhall hasn't put them in a lot of situations to succeed in my opinion as well. It seems like they come in with the bases loaded and no one out after Tullar can't figure things out again or after Brandon Smith is on his third or fourth inning and worn out.

He's putting guys that are trying to pitch to contact into strikeout situations.

[CadaverDawg]

Then do it right - start fristoe on Friday and save stinnett for pen.

Stinnett has been garbage out of the pen, so I think you start him. I think you have two options...

1) What Todd said...Stinnett on Friday in hopes that every 2-3 starts you can steal one when he's "on". That still gives you Preston and Cade on Sat and Sun to try to win the series.

2) Fristoe on Friday. Forces him to grow up and figure it out, and worst case we get blown out. Then you start Stinnett on Saturday and put Preston back in the pen to piggyback off of Stinnett. Then Cade and your best bullpen arms (if there is such a thing), on Sunday to try to win a rubber game.

[basedog]

Stinnett has been garbage out of the pen, so I think you start him. I think you have two options...

1) What Todd said...Stinnett on Friday in hopes that every 2-3 starts you can steal one when he's "on". That still gives you Preston and Cade on Sat and Sun to try to win the series.

2) Fristoe on Friday. Forces him to grow up and figure it out, and worst case we get blown out. Then you start Stinnett on Saturday and put Preston back in the pen to piggyback off of Stinnett. Then Cade and your best bullpen arms (if there is such a thing), on Sunday to try to win a rubber game.

It's a no for me to start Stinnett on Friday, he hasn't shown he can handle the pressure and Friday starters usually are teams best options for the pressure. I'd move he or hopefully Hunt to Sunday. But we shall see today how this situation goes, gotta hit, Georgia is a veteran club that can hit and looks to play decent defense.

[Todd4State]

It's a no for me to start Stinnett on Friday, he hasn't shown he can handle the pressure and Friday starters usually are teams best options for the pressure. I'd move he or hopefully Hunt to Sunday. But we shall see today how this situation goes, gotta hit, Georgia is a veteran club that can hit and looks to play decent defense.

Literally the only time I've ever seen Stinnett perform was after some of our fans trashed him on social media after Tulane and then he came to "collect receipts" after Texas Tech.

Says a lot about him to me honestly.

[basedog]

Literally the only time I've ever seen Stinnett perform was after some of our fans trashed him on social media after Tulane and then he came to "collect receipts" after Texas Tech.

Says a lot about him to me honestly.

He has to be a "man" moving forward and worry about himself. He has not been consistent over the last two years. I wish him well and I am pulling for him as we need him!

[StarkVegasSteve]

Foxhall hasn't put them in a lot of situations to succeed in my opinion as well. It seems like they come in with the bases loaded and no one out after Tullar can't figure things out again or after Brandon Smith is on his third or fourth inning and worn out.

He's putting guys that are trying to pitch to contact into strikeout situations.

I actually have brought this up a couple of times. Case and point is yesterday, Fristoe already has next to no confidence so our thought is go ahead and run him out there when he is almost guaranteed to either give up the game winning hit or walk in the winning run. I would have gone to Talley or Auger there because they are more consistent strike throwers. One of Fristoe?s main problems is that when he starts to miss he tends to leave balls right over the heart of the plate to get it over for a strike.

[StarkVegasSteve]

It may sound crazy but I might start Fristoe on Friday and at the first sign of trouble, ie. walk, HR, not locating, etc., go get Stinnett. Basically already have Stinnett hot in the pen with the mindset that he is going to go in early.

The other option is tell each one of them they have 60 pitches so figure it out.

[Todd4State]

He has to be a "man" moving forward and worry about himself. He has not been consistent over the last two years. I wish him well and I am pulling for him as we need him!

Completely agree!


I actually have brought this up a couple of times. Case and point is yesterday, Fristoe already has next to no confidence so our thought is go ahead and run him out there when he is almost guaranteed to either give up the game winning hit or walk in the winning run. I would have gone to Talley or Auger there because they are more consistent strike throwers. One of Fristoe?s main problems is that when he starts to miss he tends to leave balls right over the heart of the plate to get it over for a strike.

And we didn't even use Talley this weekend. That situation would have warranted it. As much issues as we have- no reason to overextend Smith like that. I think he messed Tepper up by doing the same thing to him against Tulane as he did Fristoe.


It may sound crazy but I might start Fristoe on Friday and at the first sign of trouble, ie. walk, HR, not locating, etc., go get Stinnett. Basically already have Stinnett hot in the pen with the mindset that he is going to go in early.

The other option is tell each one of them they have 60 pitches so figure it out.

I just don't think Stinnett can mentally handle coming out of the bullpen. He's proven that time and time again.

[parabrave]

It's a no for me to start Stinnett on Friday, he hasn't shown he can handle the pressure and Friday starters usually are teams best options for the pressure. I'd move he or hopefully Hunt to Sunday. But we shall see today how this situation goes, gotta hit, Georgia is a veteran club that can hit and looks to play decent defense.

Lemon has stinnett and Fristoe where they belong. Thing about Stinnett is he needs to learn to face adversity a whole lot better. When that error happened he fell apart faster than the French Army in 1940. Cade has impressed me so far due to the way he faces a bad inning or a screwup by the D. He brushes it off.

[basedog]

Lemon has stinnett and Fristoe where they belong. Thing about Stinnett is he needs to learn to face adversity a whole lot better. When that error happened he fell apart faster than the French Army in 1940. Cade has impressed me so far due to the way he faces a bad inning or a screwup by the D. He brushes it off.

I can't disagree, I think Stinnett is fine until he has base runners. He just tightens up it seems.