MSU/Alabama Game Thread

[msu15]

Yet, he's still starting after 2 classes by Moorhead and 1 by leach.

WR University

[msstate7]

I would not play another game at Bama or Auburn until they can prove they call a fair contest. I dont care the repercussions.

Kicked out the sec? We usm then

[Matt3467]

Why play another game in Alabama? Why?

The '18 game at Bama was the most blatantly biased refereed game I've ever seen in college football. I was completely disgusted after that game at how we were treated and how little Moorhead seemed to care. I'd have gotten ejected if I was HC at that game. The calls for Bama never surprise me anymore.

[ShotgunDawg]

Shawn Preston just got posterized

[BeardoMSU]

Oh surprise, another PI on us, lol.

[R2Dawg]

Better not play D on Bama or it is PI.

[ShotgunDawg]

A flag on every incomplete pass?

This is straight bullshit

[PGHBulldogBG]

The '18 game at Bama was the most blatantly biased refereed I've ever seen in college football. I was completely disgusted after that game at how we were treated and how little Moorhead seemed to care. I'd have gotten ejected if I was HC at that game. The calls for Bama never surprise me anymore.

Was that the year Neal Brown won at LSU or Nebraska? I get them confused because it was different years

[ShotgunDawg]

Everything is so technical when playing Bama with the refs and then they don't even watch when Bama does something to you

[BeardoMSU]

Welp, our D gave up over 30. I guess 34 will get to gloat tomorrow.*** (sarcasm, but of course he will, lol)

[defiantdog]

Murphy got caught looking in the backfield..... again

[msstate7]

A flag on every incomplete pass?

This is straight bullshit

It was at least holding.

[ShotgunDawg]

It was at least holding.

But it doesn't get called both ways. It's a completely one sided deal when it comes to those types of penalties.

Can't touch their WR while they rape you

[LC Dawg]

I feel bad for our defense. I think they may have given up a little after that interception. Hopefully just for this game and not for the year.

[Jarius]

That penalty on Murphy was a joke

[Quaoarsking]

Until the NCAA uses one set of referees rather than letting the conferences handle it, college football will be easily susceptible to biased refereeing. Of course the SEC is going to protect the big boys. Follow the money.

[chef dixon]

Leach wasted 5 possessions of experience for Rogers to start the game. Literally his only shot to not lose the fan base is to show some promise with him

[msstate7]

But it doesn't get called both ways. It's a completely one sided deal when it comes to those types of penalties.

Can't touch their WR while they rape you

Who cares though? We couldn't win with the officials help

[Bothrops]

Kicked out the sec? We usm then

That's fine. We won't ever win a game at Bama or Auburn again, period.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

A flag on every incomplete pass?

This is straight bullshit

The ONLY thing making me not call reff bias is that theres no point; weve clearly lost, bama blowing us out by 25 or 45 doesnt matter. So why rig it?

But ive seen sketchy calls against us, holds and offsides not called on Bama, the Heath catch incorrectly ruled... theres really no explanation for it other than bias

[NCDawg]

Was that the year Neal Brown won at LSU or Nebraska? I get them confused because it was different years

I agree we should have hired Neal Brown instead of Moorhead.. I don't think we would be in the predicament we're in right now.

[Quaoarsking]

Who cares though? We couldn't win with the officials help

All the more reason for the referees to call it both ways. Alabama doesn't need "protection" this game.

[Matt3467]

Until the NCAA uses one set of referees rather than letting the conferences handle it, college football will be easily susceptible to biased refereeing. Of course the SEC is going to protect the big boys. Follow the money.

I agree and I'll add that no one should ever be a referee in a game their alma mater plays.

[bulldawg28]

Until the NCAA uses one set of referees rather than letting the conferences handle it, college football will be easily susceptible to biased refereeing. Of course the SEC is going to protect the big boys. Follow the money.

This

[Quaoarsking]

Leach wasted 5 possessions of experience for Rogers to start the game. Literally his only shot to not lose the fan base is to show some promise with him

Rogers will throw for over 400 yards next week and over 20,000 by the end of 2024. We may love him more than Dak by then.

[LC Dawg]

I hope Rogers has a good finish to this game so it leads into a good game next week against Vandy. May be our only shot at a win the rest of the year but I just want to see something positive.

[DownwardDawg]

Do we have a third option at QB??!

[defiantdog]

No PI there? He never turned around and held Heath's arm

[Bothrops]

Do we have a third option at QB??!

Not really

[PGHBulldogBG]

I agree we should have hired Neal Brown instead of Moorhead.. I don't think we would be in the predicament we're in right now.

Yea but I?m still confused by Cohen overlooking this. Will never make sense to me

[chef dixon]

No PI there? He never turned around and held Heath's arm

Nah not for us

[R2Dawg]

The ONLY thing making me not call reff bias is that theres no point; weve clearly lost, bama blowing us out by 25 or 45 doesnt matter. So why rig it?

But ive seen sketchy calls against us, holds and offsides not called on Bama, the Heath catch incorrectly ruled... theres really no explanation for it other than bias

It ain't about winning on one play but if you know you will not be allowed to compete fairly then your will is defeated and hence you will never win. This is the statement refs make all the time when Bama plays. It ain't just us either.

[LC Dawg]

No PI there? He never turned around and held Heath's arm
I thought so too but Heath didn't really complain so I wasn't sure.

[R2Dawg]

No PI there? He never turned around and held Heath's arm

Yep that was PI if you go by all the other one's called. But refs look the other way because well they are Bama.

[R2Dawg]

I thought so too but Heath didn't really complain so I wasn't sure.

Heath has given up complaining, he knows it does no good against Bama.

[defiantdog]

I was right..... penn state vs Ohio state is a better game

[Bothrops]

I like Rogers, but we haven't been in any kind of rhythm on offense for so long that none of the players believe in themselves anymore.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I hope Rogers has a good finish to this game so it leads into a good game next week against Vandy. May be our only shot at a win the rest of the year but I just want to see something positive.

Every game but UGA is winnable

[ShotgunDawg]

I just want to cover

[LC Dawg]

Is it just me or has there been a lack of shots of Saban on the sideline? Do we know if he's even there? Did he go watch another game that he thought would be more interesting than this one? Or maybe he's trying to avoid contact with Leach who can't seem to get his mask over his nose.

[ShotgunDawg]

Every game but UGA is winnable

"winnable" but the offense has to score. You can't win 0-0

[bluelightstar]

Wtf are y?all watching? Rogers is marginally better than costello

[ZedFedder]

Right now you really can't count Vandy as a sure win because of how terrible the offense is.

[msstate7]

Every game but UGA is winnable

Idk

[ZedFedder]

Wtf are y?all watching? Rogers is marginally better than costello

Rogers is a true freshman.

[BuckyIsAB****]

And UGA ain?t as good as bama. But we ain?t beating them at Athens. ESP if they beat UF. Playoff has to be saved.

Mizzou auburn ole miss vandy are all winnable

[ShotgunDawg]

Wtf are y?all watching? Rogers is marginally better than costello

Rogers is much better because he can move the pocket, but something is horrendously wrong with this offense because guys still aren't open

[BuckyIsAB****]

"winnable" but the offense has to score. You can't win 0-0

It will. If Leach starts Rogers and doesn?t waste 5 possessions on Costello

[bluelightstar]

And UGA ain?t as good as bama. But we ain?t beating them at Athens. ESP if they beat UF. Playoff has to be saved.

Mizzou auburn ole miss vandy are all winnable

None of these games are winnable because we can?t score more than 7 offensive points a game

[ShotgunDawg]

Idk

Auburn is not winnable right now.

We aren't good enough to score 10 points on them and they're probably good enough to score 24 on us

[Cowbell]

Wtf are y?all watching? Rogers is marginally better than costello

Completely disagree

[msu15]

Wtf are y?all watching? Rogers is marginally better than costello

He's better and he's a true freshman, why wouldn't you go with him at this point?

[Charlie_Sheen420]

And UGA ain?t as good as bama. But we ain?t beating them at Athens. ESP if they beat UF. Playoff has to be saved.

Mizzou auburn ole miss vandy are all winnable

If any of those teams put up 14 points, they win the game, our offense is just that bad

[ShotgunDawg]

Austin Williams = Leach's Will Prosser

[Bothrops]

Heath has given up complaining, he knows it does no good against Bama.

Alabama and Auburn are both grimy ass programs that are aligned with the nefarious modus operandi of SEC and the NCAA.

[ShotgunDawg]

Bama may be the best tackling team I've ever seen

[defiantdog]

I don't think it matters if Leach gets "his" players..... his system doesn't work.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Auburn is not winnable right now.

We aren't good enough to score 10 points on them and they're probably good enough to score 24 on us

Ok

[msu15]

Payton just motioned for a first down when he made the catch 3 yards shy lolololol

[Bothrops]

Wtf are y?all watching? Rogers is marginally better than costello

That must be a wide ass margin

[ShotgunDawg]

I don't think it matters if Leach gets "his" players..... his system doesn't work.

It worked for 20 years. It works.

That being said the coaching is trash right now

[ShotgunDawg]

Austin Williams trying to juke out a Bama DB is.....

[bluelightstar]

It worked for 20 years. It works.

That being said the coaching is trash right now

Different league. Leach has now been shut out on offense twice in 4 games after it never happened in 20 years. Probably 2 more coming this year

[chef dixon]

We have the slowest "tempo" I've ever seen

[ZedFedder]

This drive looks nice. Perhaps its because Bama is playing soft, but it is still nice to see.

[defiantdog]

It worked for 20 years. It works.

That being said the coaching is trash right now

Not against defensive coordinators with a pulse

[ShotgunDawg]

Different league. Leach has now been shut out on offense twice in 4 games after it never happened in 20 years. Probably 2 more coming this year

It's not that different. Different yes, but not that different.

We've got to find better reasons if we're going to get to the bottom of this

[ShotgunDawg]

Not against defensive coordinators with a pulse

That's just not a true statement. The SEC is the best conference, but it's not THIS much better.

Something that has worked for 20 years SHOULD also work here

[StateDawg44]

Payton just motioned for a first down when he made the catch 3 yards shy lolololol

Not to mention how stupid our players look when the score is 34-0 and they want to show boat for making an insignificant catch.

[Charlie_Sheen420]

This drive looks nice. Perhaps its because Bama is playing soft, but it is still nice to see.
The third stringers are in and they are thinking about the after party at this point....the drive is false hope

[KOdawg1]

Austin Williams trying to juke out a Bama DB is.....

At least he's catching the ball and fighting for yards. More than can be said for some of our other players. Give me a slower, less athletic guy who gives his all over a mental midget like Osirus Mitchell.

[msu15]

Austin Williams trying to juke out a Bama DB is.....

He can catch though

[Bothrops]

I don't think it matters if Leach gets "his" players..... his system doesn't work.

It will work. It won't win championships at Mississippi State but it can win 7 games a year. I would imagine we wouldn't be having all these conversations on the subject if we had been concentrating on Will Rogers, circa - weeks ago

[BuckyIsAB****]

It's not that different. Different yes, but not that different.

We've got to find better reasons if we're going to get to the bottom of this

Here?s the bottom of it. We had some that poked their lip out and quit when it got hard.

Leach was scared to bench a burnt out Costello.

WRs have had a harder time learning the offense than our QB has bc they have never done anything close to it before. Same with the OL.

If Costello ever starts again over will Leach should be tarred and feathered. I could see this coming all week

[R2Dawg]

Wtf are y?all watching? Rogers is marginally better than costello

Rogers is way better but this O still sucks.

[BuckyIsAB****]

The third stringers are in and they are thinking about the after party at this point....the drive is false hope

No. Will took us down the field against the starters and had a TD taken from him bc 5 won?t fight and the refs have to make daddy proud

[defiantdog]

It will work. It won't win championships at Mississippi State but it can win 7 games a year. I would imagine we wouldn't be having all these conversations on the subject if we had been concentrating on Will Rogers, circa - weeks ago
Why? He's scored one TD this season and he's mostly been in during garbage time. We're a bad team that is ooorly coached

[ShotgunDawg]

Here?s the bottom of it. We had some that poked their lip out and quit when it got hard.

Leach was scared to bench a burnt out Costello.

WRs have had a harder time learning the offense than our QB has bc they have never done anything close to it before. Same with the OL.

If Costello ever starts again over will Leach should be tarred and feathered. I could see this coming all week

100% agree

[R2Dawg]

It will work. It won't win championships at Mississippi State but it can win 7 games a year. I would imagine we wouldn't be having all these conversations on the subject if we had been concentrating on Will Rogers, circa - weeks ago

If true, why suck for 2 years for just 7 wins a year? We were doing that before?

[msstate7]

No. Will took us down the field against the starters and had a TD taken from him bc 5 won?t fight and the refs have to make daddy proud

GOAT

[BuckyIsAB****]

100% agree

We are closer than this looks. Bama is going to score on everyone but we got reffed hard at times. On both sides.

Leach was scared to start Will. He has no choice now. I personally think it?s chicken shit and it ain?t fooling anyone who knows will or has watched practice. players included

[Turfdawg67]

Leach was scared? He didn't witness the disaster of the last 2 weeks? Utter disaster?? But what if KJ practices real hard next week?? Guess he'll be scared again?

[BuckyIsAB****]

GOAT

Best we?ve got. Don?t like it go watch jimbo

[chef dixon]

Our helmets suck apparently

[ShotgunDawg]

The TV referee has disagreed with both outcomes on replay. Figures

[BuckyIsAB****]

Leach was scared? He didn't witness the disaster of the last 2 weeks? Utter disaster?? But what if KJ practices real hard next week?? Guess he'll be scared again?

Wanted to start Will against Vandy. Prolly has been the plan for a while

[KOdawg1]

We are closer than this looks.

No. We're not.

[chef dixon]

How is that a fumble? I know they want to go home but damn

[defiantdog]

Is the university of Alabama the review officials?

[R2Dawg]

That's just not a true statement. The SEC is the best conference, but it's not THIS much better.

Something that has worked for 20 years SHOULD also work here

There is a reason O has adapted and changed over the years. People figure them out and then they change. Leach just played in Conf where D wasn't valued and only a few ever made the effort. Not that way in the SEC. Everyone plays D with pride.

[Bothrops]

Why? He's scored one TD this season and he's mostly been in during garbage time. We're a bad team that is ooorly coached

No we've been playing a qb that is handicapped for whatever reason and Leach is acting like this is a throwaway season. He has ridden this Costello train into the ground and it has ****ed up our offense from head to toe.

[msstate7]

aTm just scored their 6th td in 3 quarters vs ark. We've scored 1 offensive td in 12+ quarters, almost 13+

[ShotgunDawg]

We are closer than this looks.

Well, it certainly looks like shit

[msstate7]

Best we?ve got. Don?t like it go watch jimbo

We don't have much then

[ShotgunDawg]

I'm pissed at the type of talent Bama has on the field in a blowout

Terrible for college football and makes absolutely no sense for the sport

[BuckyIsAB****]

Well, it certainly looks like shit

Truth. And leach should be held accountable. These games count it?s not a throw away year

[Bothrops]

If true, why suck for 2 years for just 7 wins a year? We were doing that before?

Because it's who we are

[defiantdog]

2 blocks in the back by the OL there

[R2Dawg]

How is that a fumble? I know they want to go home but damn

So that was a catch even though he never had it but Heath had it for like 5 steps and way out of bounds???

[Cowbell]

GOAT
This is a chicken**** post. He's a freshman that is fighting his tail off out there.

[BuckyIsAB****]

We don't have much then

Deuces homie

[msu15]

aTm just scored their 6th td in 3 quarters vs ark. We've scored 1 offensive td in 12+ quarters, almost 13+

He'll never win the SEC West, but why are they even being brought up? It's not like we could've gotten him.

[msstate7]

I'm pissed at the type of talent Bama has on the field in a blowout

Terrible for college football and makes absolutely no sense for the sport

Dude, we couldn't score vs Kentucky and aTm in trash time

[msu15]

I'm pissed at the type of talent Bama has on the field in a blowout

Terrible for college football and makes absolutely no sense for the sport

I think scholarships should be reduced to 70. You think that would narrow the gap?

[BuckyIsAB****]

aTm just scored their 6th td in 3 quarters vs ark. We've scored 1 offensive td in 12+ quarters, almost 13+

He lost to Moorhead. He will never win the west. Rogers will be better than mond

[Turfdawg67]

We are closer than this looks.

LOLZ!! And I thought I wore maroon glasses?

[R2Dawg]

So our O is about to have 3 TDs in 4 games. Wow, think how bad that is. Our D has outscored our O in 3 straight games.

[Turfdawg67]

This is a chicken**** post. He's a freshman that is fighting his tail off out there.

That's 90% of his posts...

[BuckyIsAB****]

LOLZ!! And I thought I wore maroon glasses?

Poke your lip out and quit then just like our opt outs

[R2Dawg]

What a stand by the D.

[ShotgunDawg]

Gott love the effort of our defense right there.

we may suck but the culture isn't terrible if the defense has this effort

[LC Dawg]

Awesome job defense! I thought they had given up a little but they just showed a ton of heart and pride.

[ShotgunDawg]

Where was the blind side block?

[Irondawg]

I don’t think we are close to anything. Other crappy offenses in FCS don’t want to be compared to us.

I’m beyond dumbfounded at this point. Whether you thought Leachs system would work or not I don’t think anybody expected is to look worse than Joe’s teams on offense.

[defiantdog]

Where was the blind side block?
At the very end after the tackle

[ShotgunDawg]

uh, why doesn't Witherspoon play more? He's got burst

[ShotgunDawg]

Rogers ain't the guy. Brutal throw

[Irondawg]

I swear I think we try to throw it to the other team sometimes. Are our WR that bad or are our qbs that bad or both?

We?ve had at least 10 balls that could have been int as well

[msstate7]

The savior, boys

[LC Dawg]

Pick 6. A staple of the Mike Leach Mississippi State offense.

[KOdawg1]

Yeah, Rogers is better than Costello but that ain't saying much.

[bluelightstar]

Like I said.

[Bothrops]

I swear I think we try to throw it to the other team sometimes. Are our WR that bad or are our qbs that bad or both?

That was a stupid pass

[Charlie_Sheen420]

I swear I think we try to throw it to the other team sometimes. Are our WR that bad or are our qbs that bad or both?
Both and then some

[defiantdog]

Is that a pick 6 in every game?

[ShotgunDawg]

The savior, boys

I like the way he runs the offense, but I'm not he's talented enough.

[R2Dawg]

Our O scores more pts for the other team than our own team?? When you sit back and the only option is you got to throw it every down, you are forced to throw the ball. One of two things happen when you throw the ball and one of them ain't good. That is 50%

[Quaoarsking]

The savior, boys

Why do you post like this? Maroon-on-maroon сuntiness is never called for.

[msstate7]

Rogers ain't the guy. Brutal throw

Bucky says he and Mingo are unbelievable though

[Cowbell]

Dude lay off. He is a freshman that shouldn't even be having to play right now. I like him better than bamas backup.

[msu15]

Imagine talking shit about a true freshman giving it his all. Small dick syndrome

[HoopsDawg]

It's just an incredibly easy offense to defend.

[NCDawg]

I've come to the conclusion that we have vastly over-rated our talent. We're not a very talented football team.

[ShotgunDawg]

Dude lay off. He is a freshman that shouldn't even be having to play right now. I like him better than bamas backup.

You mean the #1 QB in the country last year?

Lets see if you are saying that in 2 years

[BuckyIsAB****]

Jimbo didn?t answer the phone he?s bored. Shotgun is down on wills twitch and is watching Robertson highlights

[defiantdog]

Imagine talking shit about a true freshman giving it his all. Small dick syndrome
Bo Nix..... same shit happened to him

[Cowbell]

I like the way he runs the offense, but I'm not he's talented enough.
Dude he is a freshman. One bad throw and you say he's not talented. Did you see that pass to heath on the sidelines? A beauty that should have been caught.

[ShotgunDawg]

I've come to the conclusion that we have vastly over-rated our talent. We're not a very talented football team.

s

Eh. Defensively we're fine and rated properly.

Offensively, we play slow

[Bothrops]

Yeah, Rogers is better than Costello but that ain't saying much.

The thing I dont like about Rogers is his size. He may be too small to play in the SEC.

[KOdawg1]

I like him better than bamas backup.

HA

[defiantdog]

The thing I dont like about Rogers is his size. He may be too small to play in the SEC.
Have you looked at Georgia's qb?

[Cowbell]

You mean the #1 QB in the country last year?

Lets see if you are saying that in 2 years
Dude you have been running your mouth all week defending this offense. You maybe should take a break and listen to some of us that have a little more experience in this game..

[Irondawg]

Yeah our talent level on offense just looks pretty atrocious across the board the last few weeks. LSU fooled us all

[msu15]

Bo Nix..... same shit happened to him

Bo won the job though and was expected to start, but I hear you.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Bucky says he and Mingo are unbelievable though

They are. They?re both freshman with bright futures, and don?t have a man crush on a scum bag either.

I know what I?m talking about. You don?t. Don?t like it? Go post on elite ags.

[DownwardDawg]

Dude he is a freshman. One bad throw and you say he's not talented. Did you see that pass to heath on the sidelines? A beauty that should have been caught.

One bad throw?!?!?!?!?
I'm not gonna beat up on the kid. I hope he turns out great. I ain't seeing what some of y'all are though.

[chef dixon]

I miss talking about coronavirus

[Cowbell]

Jimbo didn?t answer the phone he?s bored. Shotgun is down on wills twitch and is watching Robertson highlights

I bet the two of them together never started a down of high school football.....

[HoopsDawg]

Dude you have been running your mouth all week defending this offense. You maybe should take a break and listen to some of us that have a little more experience in this game..

A-M-E-N

[R2Dawg]

It's just an incredibly easy offense to defend.

That is the problem and when you are one dimensional putting a QB to throw it 70 times a game, some bad stuff will happen. This is so easy to defend in the SEC, any SEC D. I'm not sure we can score 14 against Vandy. D may have to score next week for us to win.

[KOdawg1]

I know what I?m talking about. You don?t. Don?t like it? Go post on elite ags.

Bucky, I like some of your posts, but you're a Brandon homer

[BuckyIsAB****]

I bet the two of them together never started a down of high school football.....

That doesn?t matter. Shotgun at least cares. 7 just likes to be a dick. And I don?t hate either at the end of the day it?s a message board

[Bothrops]

Our offensive talent on paper is about as good as it's ever been.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Bucky, I like some of your posts, but you're a Brandon homer

You mean winner. That?s fine your entitled to your opinion

[RocketDawg]

Alabama should be ranked #1 after this week, given Clemson's close win today and the fact that their QB will be out again next week.

[R2Dawg]

Our offensive talent on paper is about as good as it's ever been.

I wouldn't go that far but it is at least 24 pts a game good vs 3 pts a game as it is now.

[Quaoarsking]

Shockingly, Osirus fails to bring down a would-be TD catch.

[Irondawg]

I’m sitting here trying to decide if schrader looked better as a freshman or not for comparison

[msstate7]

I’m sitting here trying to decide if schrader looked better as a freshman or not for comparison

Shrader and Moorhead were better. God, I hated Moorhead too

[Statecoachingblows**]

Our offense sucks-you can argue players, scheme, coaching. Does not matter, everyone associated with the offensive side of the ball SUCKS. Period

[defiantdog]

Could not have hired a worse coach. Don't care what y'all say..... that's ****ing embarrassing. Like Kansas embarrassing. We can't score a ****ing point on offense. I feel sorry for our kicker for transferring to us..... we don't even give him an opportunity.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Mitchell needs to sit the bench for a while

[DownwardDawg]

I’m sitting here trying to decide if schrader looked better as a freshman or not for comparison

No way he looked worse.

[Bothrops]

I wouldn't go that far but it is at least 24 pts a game good vs 3 pts a game as it is now.

If it's not it is ******* close

[HRTFXR]

That is the problem and when you are one dimensional putting a QB to throw it 70 times a game, some bad stuff will happen. This is so easy to defend in the SEC, any SEC D. I'm not sure we can score 14 against Vandy. D may have to score next week for us to win.

Hope our D scores twice then, because the O ALWAYS gives up at least one pick 6.

[KOdawg1]

Mitchell needs to go to the house

Fixed it for you.

[Bothrops]

Could not have hired a worse coach. Don't care what y'all say..... that's ****ing embarrassing. Like Kansas embarrassing. We can't score a ****ing point on offense. I feel sorry for our kicker for transferring to us..... we don't even give him an opportunity.

Well we did have a likely td taken away by the bamarefs

[Matt3467]

Our offensive talent on paper is about as good as it's ever been.

Where? We've been better at every position more times than not the last decade. If you're counting stars I guess KJ would be the highest rated QB we've had but we have the worst WR corp possibly ever. Our O-line can't block. Even before Hill left we've had better backs arguably every year outside of the Shumpert/Holloway year. I just don't see it.

[BuckyIsAB****]

If we don?t score vs Vandy color me concerned. Or if Costello starts over will

[NCDawg]

Eh. Defensively we're fine and rated properly.

Offensively, we play slow


Your definition of "fine" on defense isn't the same as mine. Their W'R's ran past our DB's without too much trouble.

[Cowbell]

Shrader and Moorhead were better. God, I hated Moorhead too

Well he never had to throw into 8 man coverage

[Cowbell]

Mitchell needs to sit the bench for a while
He alligator armed that last deep ball - it was on the money.

[Bothrops]

Where? We've been better at every position more times than not the last decade. If you're counting stars I guess KJ would be the highest rated QB we've had but we have the worst WR corp possibly ever. Our O-line can't block. Even before Hill left we've had better backs arguably every year outside of the Shumpert/Holloway year. I just don't see it.

On paper RB, WR, OL , QB...pretty much everywhere

[Turfdawg67]

Poke your lip out and quit then just like our opt outs

Huge difference in not believing "we are close" and quitting.

[Bothrops]

He alligator armed that last deep ball - it was on the money.

Mitchell is not very fast and is undersized

[Turfdawg67]

NM

[BuckyIsAB****]

Your definition of "fine" on defense isn't the same as mine. Their W'R's ran past our DB's without too much trouble.

They ran past Georgia?s too

[BuckyIsAB****]

Huge difference in not believing "we are close" and quitting.

Fair point

[Bothrops]

If we don?t score vs Vandy color me concerned. Or if Costello starts over will

It's going to be a close one I believe.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Well he never had to throw into 8 man coverage

Shrader can?t throw

[Really Clark?]

Your definition of "fine" on defense isn't the same as mine. Their W'R's ran past our DB's without too much trouble.

The last 4 games their receivers have caught over 400 yards per game...we held to their lowest total of the year and the first time under 300 yards. You haven’t been watching what Bama’s WR’s have been doing all year. You need to adjust your definition

[BuckyIsAB****]

It's going to be a close one I believe.

I bet they don?t score 14 points

[Cowbell]

Shrader can?t throw
That's my point

Since 7 seems to think that Shrader was better. I was helping to give some perspective. This is where my earlier post about football experience matters when forming an opinion.

[chef dixon]

Your definition of "fine" on defense isn't the same as mine. Their W'R's ran past our DB's without too much trouble.

Our D is really solid. They literally played the whole game because our dipshit offense can only go 3 and out. We've got 2 future NFL corners in my opinion. Safety was a walk on getting run by

[Turfdawg67]

Why do you post like this? Maroon-on-maroon сuntiness is never called for.

90% of his post are "****y"...

[hp22]

I thought we played hard. And our defense had their moments. I'm excited about their potential next year. I hope we can keep the bulk of that group on campus. There's some young talent out there on that side.

But this is just embarrassingly bad at this point. One first down in the first half. Getting 3 yards against a prevent defense is a challenge. Think about that.

[Bothrops]

I bet they don?t score 14 points

Maybe not, but if we start KJ again we won't either

[BuckyIsAB****]

Maybe not, but if we start KJ again we won't either

True. Leach has nothing to hide behind now. It?s will or he will lose the fan base. I think a few could see the sense in not starting him tonight bc it?s bama. But bama is over. The rest are on Will

[msstate7]

Well he never had to throw into 8 man coverage

Shrader would use his legs.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Shrader would use his legs.

And was moved to WR bc he couldn?t throw

[Cowbell]

Shrader would use his legs.

Obviously. What I'm trying to explain to you is you need to quit bashing on a freshman QB who is being asked to throw into 8 man coverage. No freshman ever in the history of ever never ever has been tasked with such.

[msstate7]

Obviously. What I'm trying to explain to you is you need to quit bashing on a freshman QB who is being asked to throw into 8 man coverage. No freshman ever in the history of ever never ever has been tasked with such.

I can see how it seems I'm bashing will. I'm really bashing leach. Peyton manning isn't saving this offense.

[Cowbell]

I can see how it seems I'm bashing will. I'm really bashing leach. Peyton manning isn't saving this offense.

Well make it clear dude. The last thing we can afford is for him to not want to be here either. I feel bad for all of them at this point because they are set up for failure short term

[HancockCountyDog]

I bet they don?t score 14 points

I agree - we will win easily, Vandy is terrible and not athletic, we will score much easier;

[HancockCountyDog]

Also let?s quit with the Rogers bashing, he shouldn?t be playing and is doing the best he can.

The failures of this offense are not on him.

[Todd4State]

If I'm Will Rogers I'm kicking Osiris Mitchell's ass. I would hang him out to dry but we all know he is going to avoid contact and it will probably end up being picked off.

[Todd4State]

I thought we played hard. And our defense had their moments. I'm excited about their potential next year. I hope we can keep the bulk of that group on campus. There's some young talent out there on that side.

But this is just embarrassingly bad at this point. One first down in the first half. Getting 3 yards against a prevent defense is a challenge. Think about that.

You know- I'm good so far with the defense, the special teams, recruiting, S&C...pretty much everything except for the offense.

That to me is encouraging because I think the offense will get better. And like you said we're playing a lot of young players on both sides of the ball.