MSU/Alabama Game Thread

[BuckyIsAB****]

Nice job by the O-line on that 3rd down play...positives.

They did ok on all 3 snaps. Worst was 2nd down

[PGHBulldogBG]

As I?ve said for 3 years now, we had our hire in Troy Alabama in 2017, but Cohen turned a blind eye. Neal Brown or Clawson should be our coach and it?s not even debatable

[Statecoachingblows**]

How...not being an ass but how. Maybe the replay didn't get a good angle, but how is that concussable (if that's a word)

[ShotgunDawg]

At least we'll get a good look at Will tonight

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

what the heck is wrong with Day? You'd think Joey Jones was his ST coach

[mparkerfd20]

KJ is hurt. Thank goodness maybe we can see Rogers now

[BuckyIsAB****]

Cover 2 rolling back to a cover 3. And you can't see all of that on every play on the TV. LOL. It's definitely not man to man like you tried to say.

Ok. Not gonna argue. Every 3rd down that is not long has been man free. We will just go our separate ways here

[Matt3467]

How...not being an ass but how. Maybe the replay didn't get a good angle, but how is that concussable (if that's a word)

Knee to the head. Head snapped back.

[NCDawg]

That will be it for KJ.

I don't know what the hell Leach is thinking about starting Costello anyway. The kid is gunshy, especially with our OL.

[HoopsDawg]

I'm so jealous of those Bama O-line splits and power running game.

[chef dixon]

Leach should have been using KJ as a back up at this point. Anyone with a completely functional brain can see that

[msstate7]

I'm so jealous of those Bama O-line splits and power running game.

10 yard splits and 1 yard passes are where it's at tho

[BuckyIsAB****]

It?s painfully obvious how much more energy the defense has

[ShotgunDawg]

If our problem was execution, we'd execute correctly some times, which we don't

[HoopsDawg]

Looks like we brought in Preston and Guidry to replace the walk on and Duncan.

[ShotgunDawg]

No foul for block in the back as he pushes him in the back

[HoopsDawg]

If our problem was execution, we'd execute correctly some times, which we don't

Whoa, whoa, whoa, seeing the light??

[ShotgunDawg]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, seeing the light??

Yeah. I'm seeing the light

[HoopsDawg]

10 yard splits and 1 yard passes are where it's at tho

Leach is laughing all the way to the bank. Or to Key West. One last big score.

[R2Dawg]

Looks like we brought in Preston and Guidry to replace the walk on and Duncan.

Preston should have been starting.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, seeing the light??

I?m afraid leach was more concerned about image than winning this game

[PGHBulldogBG]

I can?t believe I thought this was a ?B? hire I was way wrong. This was Moorhead bad.

[Cowbell]

Yeah. I'm seeing the light
We knew you'd come around

[HoopsDawg]

Yeah. I'm seeing the light

I'm not even going to ask for an apology.

[ShotgunDawg]

I?m afraid leach was more concerned about image than winning this game

How in the hell is this helping his image?

[R2Dawg]

Our best luck at this point is Leach does something stupid, gets fired and we don't have to pay him off. We are about to enter the dark ages of MSU football

[LC Dawg]

If our problem was execution, we'd execute correctly some times, which we don't

Reporter: What do you think of your team's execution coach?
John McKay: I'm in favor of it.

[mparkerfd20]

Worse than Moorhead, as bad as Croom. Thought I'd never say those words but anyone with a pulse knows it's true. Stop trying to excuse it.

[ShotgunDawg]

Wow look at our defense

[bluelightstar]

Our best luck at this point is Leach does something stupid, gets fired and we don't have to pay him off. We are about to enter the dark ages of MSU football

Here is hoping for an off-color tweet

[SailingDawg]

Lookie there, some Offense!

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

WE HAVE A FIRST DOWN

[ShotgunDawg]

So how come we run that play with Will but not KJ?

[Maroonthirteen]

With 9 minutes to go In the 2Q. First First Down Bulldogs!

Air raid baby.

[ShotgunDawg]

How are our WRs and QB having this many mix ups?

[Quaoarsking]

Barring injury, no one other than Rogers should take a meaningful snap for us until 2025.

[ShotgunDawg]

Marks has to break a tackle every once in a while

[Dawgology]

21 yards of offense... lmao!!

[ShotgunDawg]

Good lord. I can't watch it

[msstate7]

The more I think about it, that noose tweet was racist AF. Let's fire leach with cause.

I'm kidding of course, but I'm changing the channel. F this

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

How are our WRs and QB having this many mix ups?

I think they've checked out. Given up. It's a huge indictment on Leach. It's giving me PTSD flashbacks to the WRs not even running a route last year on the last drive vs KSU

[DownwardDawg]

I really hope he turns this around, but I said for years that we would NEVER hire Leach. It's not who we are. And I was never scared when people talked about ole miss hiring him. I'm back to reality.

[R2Dawg]

Marks has to break a tackle every once in a while

Dang, don't be too hard on him he is our only offensive yardage in the first half and our only first down. He is a freshman and looks pretty good especially compared to everything else. I just hope he stays.

[HoopsDawg]

The more I think about it, that noose tweet was racist AF. Let's fire leach with cause.

I'm kidding of course, but I'm changing the channel. F this

I'm super offended as well. It worked for Fields and Lovett, maybe it can work for Cohen.

[BuckyIsAB****]

How in the hell is this helping his image?

Wanting to start Costello to say he gave him a chance, and not wanting wills first start to be against Alabama which I think is chicken shit

[ShotgunDawg]

I'm all for changing the culture, but the players have to believe it's worth it.

If the players don't think they can win like this, what's the motivation?

[HoopsDawg]

Dang, don't be too hard on him he is our only offensive yardage in the first half and our only first down. He is a freshman and looks pretty good especially compared to everything else. I just hope he stays.

That same play against Oregon State goes for 7 yards.

[R2Dawg]

21 yards of offense... lmao!!

Air Raid Baby.

[ShotgunDawg]

Wanting to start Costello to say he gave him a chance, and not wanting wills first start to be against Alabama which I think is chicken shit

110% chicken shit

[Prentis]

You sir are an idiot

NO, YOU MY FRIEND ARE THE IDIOT. Leach should not have had him in the game to start with.

[MaroonFlounder]

Barring injury, no one other than Rogers should take a meaningful snap for us until 2025.

Unless the Robertson kid is better.

[ShotgunDawg]

Dang, don't be too hard on him he is our only offensive yardage in the first half and our only first down. He is a freshman and looks pretty good especially compared to everything else. I just hope he stays.

I get it, but he's got to get stronger. Arm tackled way too often

[HoopsDawg]

Unless the Robertson kid is better.

We may not hold onto Robertson at this rate.

[Maroonthirteen]

Leach is laughing all the way to the bank. Or to Key West. One last big score.

Yep. More $. Shorter flight to Key West.

3 years from now, you will find Leach in a Key West bar telling a story about the time he fleeced this rube from Mississippi

[ShotgunDawg]

I think Bama is just trying to run out the clock

[ShotgunDawg]

Forbes has to pick that

[ShotgunDawg]

I wish we had a Slade Bolden type

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Defense get's torched because we don't have the secondary talent? Fine. It sucks to know our recruiting has such gaps, but I can swallow it.

Offense looks lifeless, with no effort, no passion, and the QB/WRs are still not on the same page in week 6? That's a culture problem. That's on Leach that his guys -who played hard vs LSU and Arky- have judged his O to be hopeless and not even worth trying.

And this is AFTER we've purged the "malcontents"

[Matt3467]

If this board is indicative of the current feelings towards our HC of the whole fan base then we have absolutely horrible fans. Many of you guys are unreasonable. I'd even say rabid Leach haters. Just completely ignore all of the factors (and there are many) that have lead to the product we've seen on the field and most are carryovers from the previous staff and the crazy year we've had. Leach will win here. He will at the very least have us back to where Mullen had us and that is going based off his track record.

[R2Dawg]

I get it, but he's got to get stronger. Arm tackled way too often

He is a freshman and shouldn't be getting this many snaps yet, he ain't a power back either. thanks Hill, Moorhead, etc.

[ShotgunDawg]

Do Bama fans have fun watching college football?

Where is the fun in this?

They never play competitive games

[bluelightstar]

If this board is indicative of the current feelings towards our HC of the whole fan base then we have absolutely horrible fans. Many of you guys are unreasonable. I'd even say rabid Leach haters. Just completely ignore all of the factors (and there are many) that have lead to the product we've seen on the field and most are carryovers from the previous staff and the crazy year we've had. Leach will win here. He will at the very least have us back to where Mullen had us and that is going based off his track record.

Leach has no track record in this league. People come to the SEC and fail all the time.

[ShotgunDawg]

Jones is more athletic than I thought

[Quaoarsking]

Leach has no track record in this league. People come to the SEC and fail all the time.

What head coach with Leach's pedigree (18 years at other P5 schools) has come to the SEC and failed?

Bret Bielema and Butch Jones come to mind, but neither had nearly the resume of Leach, and honestly, they both had some success at Arkansas and Tennessee.

[SailingDawg]

What's he mouthing off about?

[BuckyIsAB****]

Let?s play 8 yards off as a corner and let him inside in the red zone. Bite on a move then quit. Great job Forbes.

[msstate7]

What head coach with Leach's pedigree (18 years at other P5 schools) has come to the SEC and failed?

Who else has that resume and succeeded? Seems a very limited sample

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Do Bama fans have fun watching college football?

Where is the fun in this?

They never play competitive games

It's gotta be boring as hell. 2 games on the schedule scare you- UGA (who they blew out) and Auburn, who sucks this year. It's preseason for them till the 2 playoff games

[HoopsDawg]

What head coach with Leach's pedigree (18 years at other P5 schools) has come to the SEC and failed?

We all get it bud. You love Coach Leach. You have made that very clear. Take a step back and look at reality. Be objective. I was excited when we hired Leach too. He is truly becoming Joe Lee Leach right in front of us. When is he going to adapt?

[BuckyIsAB****]

Jones is more athletic than I thought

nah. Bad job by our end didn?t break down

[Cowbell]

Let?s play 8 yards off as a corner and let him inside in the red zone. Bite on a move then quit. Great job Forbes.

He's a freshman man. He is going to make some mistakes

[bluelightstar]

What head coach with Leach's pedigree (18 years at other P5 schools) has come to the SEC and failed?

I agree with you that very few coaches come to the SEC after 18 years. I?m saying that coaches who were successful in other leagues frequently fail here

[ShotgunDawg]

It's gotta be boring as hell. 2 games on the schedule scare you- UGA (who they blew out) and Auburn, who sucks this year. It's preseason for them till the 2 playoff games

It just speaks to the issue with the system. Even the people that care the most are bored as hell by it. It's a terrible product

[chef dixon]

Our D is actually playing great overall

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Let?s play 8 yards off as a corner and let him inside in the red zone. Bite on a move then quit. Great job Forbes.

He's a TFr guarding literally the best WR in college and a top 5 NFL pick

[Statecoachingblows**]

Glad he can go out with dignity - He is scared for his life out there. He needs to quit football.


Do Bama fans have fun watching college football?

Where is the fun in this?

They never play competitive games

No fun on this side either if it's any consolation. Maybe they hate it, but if like to find out how it feels to have every game in the bag or at the very least a damn good shot at getting the W. I know for sure there are plenty of Bama "fans" that seem to enjoy football season a pretty good bit.

[ShotgunDawg]

I agree with you that very few coaches come to the SEC after 18 years. I?m saying that coaches who were successful in other leagues frequently fail here

Like what Power 5 head coach has come the SEC and failed?

[msstate7]

Do Bama fans have fun watching college football?

Where is the fun in this?

They never play competitive games

I would think not. It would seem every game just seems like a please don't lose.

[HoopsDawg]

It just speaks to the issue with the system. Even the people that care the most are bored as hell by it. It's a terrible product

There's only one thing you can do in this system. Hire the best compliance people you can and cheat your ass off.

[BuckyIsAB****]

He's a freshman man. He is going to make some mistakes

Mistakes are fine quitting is not

[PGHBulldogBG]

Nobody can deny the fact that it would be at least interesting to see what would?ve happened tonight in Neal Brown or Dave Clawsons 3rd year which both would?ve got. Thanks Cohen!

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Like what Power 5 head coach has come the SEC and failed?

Chizick lol, Mackelwain went to UF from a PAC-12 school right? uhh... that's all I got

[Matt3467]

Leach has no track record in this league. People come to the SEC and fail all the time.

Bull. Outside of Bama no other team in this conference would be as dominate in the other major conferences (Pac, Acc, BIG10, 12). GA is a very far second and only due to their defense. Their offense is horrible relative to the talent they field. FLA is the only other team well rounded but nowhere near Bama's level.

I base above on recruiting ranking and star distribution of talent among the conferences. With Bama being the only outlier those other conferences have just as much talent as the SEC. Someone else on here posted a graphic a while back demonstrating that.

[msstate7]

Don't worry guys, Will is in. This offense bout to rock

[ShotgunDawg]

Chizick lol, Mackelwain went to UF from a PAC-12 school right? uhh... that's all I got

Chizik won a natty

MacElwain was at Colorado State, which is not power 5

Try again

[Cowbell]

Chizik won a natty
MacElwain was at Colorado State, which is not power 5

Try again

Bielema

[ShotgunDawg]

I would think not. It would seem every game just seems like a please don't lose.

I don't see how they get excited about games.

When we're good and we have a big game next weekend, I start getting excited on about Tuesday.

I don't see how they do that. Just seems like a complete waste of time

[ShotgunDawg]

Bielema

Good one. That's the best example

[msu15]

Our offense is just flat out boring, regardless of tonight's performance. I'd 100% rather watch Croom's "West Coast" compared to this.

[ShotgunDawg]

Boy, I just don't see it.

I'm blindly trusting Leach at this point

[calidawg]

boooooooooooo

[Maroonthirteen]

If this board is indicative of the current feelings towards our HC of the whole fan base then we have absolutely horrible fans. Many of you guys are unreasonable. I'd even say rabid Leach haters. Just completely ignore all of the factors (and there are many) that have lead to the product we've seen on the field and most are carryovers from the previous staff and the crazy year we've had. Leach will win here. He will at the very least have us back to where Mullen had us and that is going based off his track record.

I've been watching state play fooTable since 1980. This is the worst offensive I've seen in maroon and white.

One first down. That's absolutely pathetic. Pathetic! And falls directly on
Leachs shoulders.

[BeardoMSU]

I wonder which player(s) Mike will throw under the bus after this performance.

[HoopsDawg]

Nobody can deny the fact that it would be at least interesting to see what would?ve happened tonight in Neal Brown or Dave Clawsons 3rd year which both would?ve got. Thanks Cohen!

Everytime you mention Neal Brown, my blood pressure sky rockets. It was a clear and obvious choice. Cohen over thought it and went out and hired a coordinator. Got totally fooled.

[LC Dawg]

Cohen needs to slip the refs some cash for a running clock for the 2nd half.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I don?t care what your doing or what the circumstances are, whos playing QB or anything else, 34 yards of offense at half is just unacceptable and falls on the head guy

[msstate7]

I wonder which player(s) Mike will throw under the bus after this performance.

Malcontents!!!!!

[BeardoMSU]

Malcontents!!!!!

Mike is making zero adjustments out of spite for them, lol. It's his way of punishing bad behavior.

[msstate7]

Be patient guys, we'll light up Georgia's defense



Hahahhahhhahhah

[Matt3467]

Bielema

Bielema wasn't horrible. Not good, but not horrible. Bielema would never have been there anyway had the prior ACC transplant (Petrino) not lied. Arguably Petrino even then should still have kept the job but I digress.

[Bothrops]

Joe Moorhead II

-Uglier, Slower, Dumber than before-

Coming to SEC theaters fall of 2020

[ZedFedder]

Cohen needs to slip the refs some cash for a running clock for the 2nd half.

Word.

[HoopsDawg]

Be patient guys, we'll light up Georgia's defense



Hahahhahhhahhah

Yeah, but Will is throwing tight spirals on those checkdowns. Hopefully Saban will call of the dogs of dropping 8 and start blitzing us.

[HoopsDawg]

Joe Moorhead II

-Uglier, Slower, Dumber than before-

Coming to SEC theaters fall of 2020

Never dreamed I would long for Joe Moorhead. Never.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Bielema wasn't horrible. Not good, but not horrible. Bielema would never have been there anyway had the prior ACC transplant (Petrino) not lied. Arguably Petrino even then should still have kept the job but I digress.

Petrino came from the Falcons

[PGHBulldogBG]

Everytime you mention Neal Brown, my blood pressure sky rockets. It was a clear and obvious choice. Cohen over thought it and went out and hired a coordinator. Got totally fooled.

I live 30 minutes from Morgantown and their fans got tired or Holgersons underachievement. When they hired Brown they didn?t know much about him. He had to blow up the program and they were picked to win 2 games last year. Brown won 5. This year WVU was picked to win 3 or 4. Brown has already done that and will probably win 6. They are celebrating a great hire tonight while we are stuck in Cohens delusion of a good hire. Next year when WVU wins the big 12 (it will happen whether our fans want to admit it or not) I hope Cohen gets fired for this horrendous mistake

[BeardoMSU]

Joe Moorhead II

-Uglier, Slower, Dumber than before-

Coming to SEC theaters fall of 2020

Joe Moorhead II: Electric Boogaloo**

[Cowbell]

Bielema wasn't horrible. Not good, but not horrible. Bielema would never have been there anyway had the prior ACC transplant (Petrino) not lied. Arguably Petrino even then should still have kept the job but I digress.

But he was great at Wisconsin.

[HoopsDawg]

So, if you're Cohen do you:

A) force Leach to change his scheme vs the 3-8?
B) Force Leach to hire an Offensive coordinator after the season?
C) Get fcked

[Quaoarsking]

We all get it bud. You love Coach Leach. You have made that very clear. Take a step back and look at reality. Be objective. I was excited when we hired Leach too. He is truly becoming Joe Lee Leach right in front of us. When is he going to adapt?

I'm the most objective person here because I am looking at the big picture instead of emotionally reacting to this garbage we're looking at tonight.

Everyone knew this was going to be a tough transition, and few of us predicted a winning record. Nobody ever thought we'd be competitive with Alabama, much less win. All history still points to Leach being successful here.

[Matt3467]

Petrino came from the Falcons

Yea, well....his last full year of coaching prior to ARK was ACC.

[Prentis]

Yep, I'm drank!!!

[dawgday166]

Malcontents!!!!!

https://www.espn.com/college-football/matchup?gameId=400869049

This with your boy Mullen in his 7th year at MSU, with a slightly more mature team (you know Fr vs RS Sophs and a Jr LT playing in Pros now) type thing), with a spring practice, with Fred Ross, with a RS soph at QB, and not having to install a new offense from scratch. Should've fired him right after that game. Most of us probably wanted to but I'm sure you were defending him till the death.

[NCMSTFAN]

We look HORRIBLE!! I was on board with Leach at first too but I dont see this offense working in our conference, even when Leach "Gets his players" I dont see it working. The SEC is a hard nosed blue collar conference... the tricky gimmicky offense won't work!

[msstate7]

Never dreamed I would long for Joe Moorhead. Never.

It was a tough job for Cohen to screw up 2018, but he managed. Hiring a successful sunbelt coach would've led to an EASY 10 wins and momentum moving forward.

[PGHBulldogBG]

It was a tough job for Cohen to screw up 2018, but he managed. Hiring a successful sunbelt coach would've led to an EASY 10 wins and momentum moving forward.

Yea he was in Troy Alabama and Cohen must?ve been stoned and drunk to not see it

[Dogbone]

I'm the most objective person here because I am looking at the big picture instead of emotionally reacting to this garbage we're looking at tonight.

Everyone knew this was going to be a tough transition, and few of us predicted a winning record. Nobody ever thought we'd be competitive with Alabama, much less win. All history still points to Leach being successful here.

You are absolutely correct. Good post!

[Quaoarsking]

We look HORRIBLE!! I was on board with Leach at first too but I dont see this offense working in our conference, even when Leach "Gets his players" I dont see it working. The SEC is a hard nosed blue collar conference... the tricky gimmicky offense won't work!

No it's not at all. High-flying offenses have dominated this league for a decade.

[BeardoMSU]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/matchup?gameId=400869049

This with your boy Mullen in his 7th year at MSU, with a slightly more mature team (you know Fr vs RS Sophs and a Jr LT playing in Pros now) type thing), with a spring practice, with Fred Ross, with a RS soph at QB, and not having to install a new offense from scratch. Should've fired him right after that game. Most of us probably wanted to but I'm sure you were defending him till the death.

We had 17 first downs and scored 3 points that game. A ways to go tonight, lol.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Yea he was in Troy Alabama and Cohen must?ve been stoned and drunk to not see it

Y?all sure are high for a guy who hasn?t done great in the big 12

[HoopsDawg]

I'm the most objective person here because I am looking at the big picture instead of emotionally reacting to this garbage we're looking at tonight.

Everyone knew this was going to be a tough transition, and few of us predicted a winning record. Nobody ever thought we'd be competitive with Alabama, much less win. All history still points to Leach being successful here.

Ole Miss with a new coach, and no spring, and Covid, put up 647 yards vs this Bama team. And 31 First Downs. We have 1 first down

[msstate7]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/matchup?gameId=400869049

This with your boy Mullen in his 7th year at MSU, with a slightly more mature team (you know Fr vs RS Sophs and a Jr LT playing in Pros now) type thing), with a spring practice, with Fred Ross, with a RS soph at QB, and not having to install a new offense from scratch. Should've fired him right after that game. Most of us probably wanted to but I'm sure you were defending him till the death.

7 offensive points in last 11 quarters. Show me when mullen managed that.

[BeardoMSU]

No it's not at all. High-flying offenses have dominated this league for a decade.

Those high flying offenses still run the ball when the D dares them to, though.

[Prentis]

Well, on the bright side. My wife and I will be celebrating our anniversary in Egypt next weekend. I will not have to endure this, thank God.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Y?all sure are high for a guy who hasn?t done great in the big 12

He?s in his 2nd year and had to blow up a program. At this point he was expected to win 4 games in 2 years. I live 30 minutes from Morgantown. He has done so much for the town as well. He has won 9 out of those 4 he was anticipated to win. I will debate Neal Brown as a great coach all day long. Just wait

[Quaoarsking]

Ole Miss with a new coach, and no spring, and Covid, put up 647 yards vs this Bama team. And 31 First Downs. We have 1 first down

They have more talent and more discipline than we do, and a better QB. All 3 of those facts suck hard. But we have a coach who has demonstrated that he can fix those things.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

No it's not at all. High-flying offenses have dominated this league for a decade.

Seriously what Kiffin did at Bama, and Brady at LSU are far more gimmicky than they are physical.

The most "blue collar physical" offensive schemes in the conference are Kentucky, UGA, Auburn, and when Mullen was here, us. ******* power spread never worked vs good teams and we see the other 3 all under performing. Gotta be able to throw and RPO people... Leach just doens't have enough variety in his system to counter the 3-8

[msstate7]

They have more talent and more discipline than we do, and a better QB. All 3 of those facts suck hard. But we have a coach who has demonstrated that he can fix those things.

We have a 5-star qb

https://247sports.com/Player/KJ-Costello-33989/high-school-54782/

[Quaoarsking]

We have a 5-star qb

https://247sports.com/Player/KJ-Costello-33989/high-school-54782/

Oh well then my mistake obviously he's great. [obvious sarcasm for those who didn't catch it]

I never allowed myself to think this in the offseason, but it should have been a red flag that Stanford wasn't going to have KJ as their starter in 2020.

[Matt3467]

He?s in his 2nd year and had to blow up a program. At this point he was expected to win 4 games in 2 years. I live 30 minutes from Morgantown. He has done so much for the town as well. He has won 9 out of those 4 he was anticipated to win. I will debate Neal Brown as a great coach all day long. Just wait

So basically Neal Brown gets slack and understanding from you but not Leach? Btw Brown took over a team that went 8-4 the year before and finished ranked 20th.

[msstate7]

Oh well then my mistake obviously he's great. [obvious sarcasm for those who didn't catch it]

I never allowed myself to think this in the offseason, but it should have been a red flag that Stanford wasn't going to have KJ as their starter in 2020.

He has the all time passing record in the sec. It's a problem with scheme. We could torch man to man

[ShotgunDawg]

At least a guy was open on that 3rd down play

[defiantdog]

Our 5* LT may have been over rated too

[Quaoarsking]

At least a guy was open on that 3rd down play

This offense can't succeed unless we convert plays like that.

[ShotgunDawg]

Boy Tucker Day is awful tonight. The ball isn't even coming off his foot right.

[msstate7]

This offense can't succeed.

I agree

[ShotgunDawg]

Our 5* LT may have been over rated too

He's in a tough spot. Not sure he's overrated

[defiantdog]

Boy Tucker Day is awful tonight. The ball isn't even coming off his foot right.
It's not him anymore

[ShotgunDawg]

Boy their running game is gashing us

[PGHBulldogBG]

So basically Neal Brown gets slack and understanding from you but not Leach? Btw Brown took over a team that went 8-4 the year before and finished ranked 20th.

Lmao you obviously have no idea about WVU football. They lost their entire team when Brown took over and Holgerson recruited nothing at that point because he knew it was over. The difference is that Brown exceeded expectations by 3 in year one. And now Brown is about to take a projected 3 or 4 win team to 6 or 7. Just like when he went to LSU and Nebraska and won with Troy (yes Troy Alabama) talent and won. But Moorhead is great because he has Barkley

[defiantdog]

He's in a tough spot. Not sure he's overrated
He's expected to win the majority of the battles..... he gets destroyed any time someone is lined up on his left shoulder

[ShotgunDawg]

It's not him anymore

Oh. My give a shit was too low to recognize

[msstate7]

Boy Tucker Day is awful tonight. The ball isn't even coming off his foot right.

He's probably tired as hell... we haven't scored but 7 Offensive points in almost 12 quarters

[LC Dawg]

Announcers just praised Smith for his effort on a play in which he was called for holding. That's classic Bama media bias.

[ShotgunDawg]

our defense has some talent deficiencies on the back end, but boy they play hard

[Bothrops]

Boy their running game is gashing us

Harris is a beast with legs of steel.

[ShotgunDawg]

Harris is a beast with legs of steel.

And ridiculous balance

[Cowbell]

our defense has some talent deficiencies on the back end, but boy they play hard

Experience deficiency not talent

[ShotgunDawg]

I thought Osiris may have been purged

[ShotgunDawg]

Experience deficiency not talent

Craft is a walkon and I'm not sure Duncan is an SEC caliber player

[msstate7]

Our run game is stout

[ShotgunDawg]

How do we run the ball straight into a blitz? Seems like something we've got to check out of

[ShotgunDawg]

Our run game is stout

It's like we're constantly in the wrong play

[chef dixon]

Why punt

[Quaoarsking]

We clearly should have gone for it there. Why not?

[msstate7]

How do we run the ball straight into a blitz? Seems like something we've got to check out of

How dare you question a guru

[BuckyIsAB****]

I?ve never seen an OL mess up inside zone that bad. Not to mention the whole stadium knew we were gonna run that 1 of our 2 run plays. Pinch the end and were dead

[defiantdog]

How do we run the ball straight into a blitz? Seems like something we've got to check out of
What's sad is the free man was a lineman with his hand in the ground. Croom had his team more prepared than this shit.

[BuckyIsAB****]

How do we run the ball straight into a blitz? Seems like something we've got to check out of

Not a blitz. Just a pinching end. RG should have had him or give a call to the RT and he has him. Right b gap is the RG on zone

[Cowbell]

Craft is a walkon and I'm not sure Duncan is an SEC caliber player

Are they even two year starters?

No

[Bothrops]

We have a mix of SEC and none SEC players in the secondary

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

This aint gunna work guys

[BuckyIsAB****]

Eiland is just awful. No way a DE on our outsode shoulder should be past you on your inside shoulder and you havent moved a foot or touched him. No idea what Eiland was doing

That?s not eiland and he doesn?t have that gap

[BuckyIsAB****]

RT has been Kam Jones

[SailingDawg]

DUCK

[ShotgunDawg]

I think that was an incomplete pass, but where was the evidence to overturn it?

[ShotgunDawg]

FWIW, I do think our defense has played Bama better than anyone else

[MaroonFlounder]

Everytime you mention Neal Brown, my blood pressure sky rockets. It was a clear and obvious choice. Cohen over thought it and went out and hired a coordinator. Got totally fooled.

There is ZERO reason to think Neal Brown could do anything special in the SEC.

Sorry.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Crummedys arm was flopping like ots dislocated. How many weeks out is that

[R2Dawg]

This aint gunna work guys

Thing is he was pass blocking on a run play?? We are a cluster.

[BeardoMSU]

We have a mix of SEC and none SEC players in the secondary

That's pretty normal for us, lol.

Sadly, the years we have NFL corners back there, it didn't matter either.

[Matt3467]

Lmao you obviously have no idea about WVU football. They lost their entire team when Brown took over and Holgerson recruited nothing at that point because he knew it was over. The difference is that Brown exceeded expectations by 3 in year one. And now Brown is about to take a projected 3 or 4 win team to 6 or 7. Just like when he went to LSU and Nebraska and won with Troy (yes Troy Alabama) talent and won. But Moorhead is great because he has Barkley

That's odd considering WVU has consistently had recruiting classes ranked in the mid 30's (outside of '17 and '11) the last 10 years. So you're also saying WVU exceeded expectations in year 1 by having a 5-7 season? WVU had only one other losing season in nearly two decades prior to that and btw Athlon predicted them to go .500 so according to some they underperformed. Keep making excuses though.

[R2Dawg]

I think that was an incomplete pass, but where was the evidence to overturn it?

They overturned it before they even looked at it. Official said it was ruled incomplete but they marked it at spot of catch. Yeah it wasn't a catch.

[BeardoMSU]

Lets root for our D to hold them under 30.

[HancockCountyDog]

Our defense deserves better.

[Bothrops]

That's pretty normal for us, lol.

Sadly, the years we have NFL corners back there, it didn't matter either.

It's as good as it will ever be for us. The only difference is normally we don't have to play a walkon.

[msstate7]

I still say offer arnett a raise. I'm impressed with him

[RocketDawg]

They overturned it before they even looked at it. Official said it was ruled incomplete but they marked it at spot of catch. Yeah it wasn't a catch.

I think they changed the ruling on the field so they woudn't have to review. But it was incomplete.

[defiantdog]

I still say offer arnett a raise. I'm impressed with him
Hell, offer him the HC job.

[PGHBulldogBG]

That's odd considering WVU has consistently had recruiting classes ranked in the mid 30's (outside of '17 and '11) the last 10 years. So you're also saying WVU exceeded expectations in year 1 by having a 5-7 season? WVU had only one other losing season in nearly two decades prior to that and btw Athlon predicted them to go .500 so according to some they underperformed. Keep making excuses though.

Yea Brown had to get rid of a lot of problem kids Holgerson recruited. WVU is burning couches for their win tonight (a team Moorhead couldn?t beat at home in Kleimans 3rd game at KSU) while we watch this shit show. Once again when WVU wins the big 12 next year will you agree? Or stick your head and in the sand and dream Moorhead and leach might score something different against Bama

[R2Dawg]

Our defense deserves better.

Yes they do, 5 mil a year, what a deal.

[msstate7]

Good job, will

[ShotgunDawg]

Hell, offer him the HC job.

That won't work

[LC Dawg]

Ok, I'm on board with Rogers after that run.

[ShotgunDawg]

Marks is going to be really good with the weight room

[ShotgunDawg]

Ok, I'm on board with Rogers after that run.

yeah, if we're trying to find some positives, that's one

[Cowbell]

Have we finally narrowed our splits???

[ShotgunDawg]

Catch the damn ball Malik

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Rogers is so much better amd its not close

[msu15]

Great throw

[ShotgunDawg]

That's a catch

[Quaoarsking]

That's a catch for an Alabama WR

[Cowbell]

The fact that Leach thought Costello should start over Will is a huge indictment on him. They aren't even in the same hemisphere.

[ShotgunDawg]

Rogers is so much better amd its not close

He's way better

[Quaoarsking]

If he were in bounds that's clearly a catch and a fumble

[Matt3467]

Yea Brown had to get rid of a lot of problem kids Holgerson recruited. WVU is burning couches for their win tonight (a team Moorhead couldn?t beat at home in Kleimans 3rd game at KSU) while we watch this shit show. Once again when WVU wins the big 12 next year will you agree? Or stick your head and in the sand and dream Moorhead and leach might score something different against Bama

OH! So Brown gets that pass from you but not Leach? I don't care what Moorhead did because it was obvious we were going nowhere under him and he's the reason we're in the shape we are now. If WVU wins the BIG12 next year then that's great for your team. Are you willing to give Leach 3 years?

[ShotgunDawg]

That's a catch for an Alabama WR

100% no doubt

[Quaoarsking]

The fact that Leach thought Costello should start over Will is a huge indictment on him. They aren't even in the same hemisphere.

Leach's greatest quirk is preferring senior QBs. Rogers is the first true freshman QB to ever get significant playing time under him. But yeah, he's got to let that go the rest of this season and #evolve.

[Bothrops]

That was a ****ing catch

[ShotgunDawg]

If he were in bounds that's clearly a catch and a fumble

Ground would've caused it.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Complete BS

[ShotgunDawg]

That's awful

[defiantdog]

Could've been a targeting call too

[R2Dawg]

Screwed on that catch and that was classic targeting, no call.

[Bothrops]

I want to **** that ref up

[DownwardDawg]

Ball was moving in his hands. It didn't look like a catch to me.

[HRTFXR]

Typical horse shit Tuscaloosa call

[ShotgunDawg]

Marks just doesn't move the pile at all. Can't wait for him to get in the weight room

[ShotgunDawg]

Marks is a player man. Just needs to get stronger

[PGHBulldogBG]

OH! So Brown gets that pass from you but not Leach? I don't care what Moorhead did because it was obvious we were going nowhere under him and he's the reason we're in the shape we are now. If WVU wins the BIG12 next year then that's great for your team. Are you willing to give Leach 3 years?

Correct we were going no where under Moorhead. No disagreement. And brown was available then but we hire Moorhead? Yea great job Cohen

[DownwardDawg]

Wow

[Bothrops]

I hate these referees. I would break that ****ers head open

[ShotgunDawg]

Good lord you've got to be kidding me. We don't fight for the ball at all.

[Matt3467]

LOL!!! Mitchell strikes again!

[defiantdog]

Twice Mitchell..... you ****ing *****

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Mitchell lets a 2nd Rogers TD get ripped away. His attitude is horrible too. Kick his ass off the team

[msstate7]

That should pretty much seal it... 7 offensive pts in our last 12+ quarters

[ShotgunDawg]

Holding on Bama not called

[R2Dawg]

Another targeting on Mitchell.

Also the spot out of endzone total BS

[Quaoarsking]

We just can't catch a break this year (since the LSU game).

[TNDawg35]

Mitchell is such a bitch...

[ShotgunDawg]

Our WRs wouldn't make that catch in a million years

[msbulldog]

We wuz robbed and that was targeting on Heath helmet to helmet contact on a defenceless player.

[defiantdog]

Isn't holding in the end zone a safety?

[LC Dawg]

That catch by Smith following the non effort by Mitchell pretty much says it all.

[Bothrops]

We got ****ed by the refs there, not Mitchell.

[ShotgunDawg]

Mitchell is such a bitch...

He sucks. Like not a good player at all

[Statecoachingblows**]

Must be nice to accidentally intercept passes in the end zone

[ShotgunDawg]

We got ****ed by the refs there, not Mitchell.

How?

[Matt3467]

Mitchell has the weakest hands I've ever seen. I've been saying for a long time now (years) that guy has an attitude problem and barely gives any effort. Wish he was gone with the others but a long time ago.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I mean we suck anyway, whats to lose if we kick his lazy ass off the team? Maybe Cumbest or Gardner will actually try to catch TDs.

[defiantdog]

We got ****ed by the refs there, not Mitchell.
Face guarding is PI in the NCAA but not if you're alabama

[MaroonFlounder]

Zero TDs in the road last 2 road games, because #5 can't bring a ball in that is right in his hands.

[Bothrops]

Why play another game in Alabama? Why?

[PGHBulldogBG]

Mitchell has the weakest hands I've ever seen. I've been saying for a long time now (years) that guy has an attitude problem and barely gives any effort. Wish we was gone with the others but a long time ago.

Well at least we have leach instead of Neal brown right?

[msbulldog]

How?

Pass interference are you blind Gun.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

2 ints on Mitchell where the defender wanted the ball and he didnt.

[msu15]

Osirus Mitchell is one of our worst signings ever. Thanks Dan.

[ShotgunDawg]

Pass interference are you blind Gun.

I saw the ball hit Mitchell in his chest and he bobbled it. Where was the PI?

[msstate7]

Isn't holding in the end zone a safety?

If they Called it, that would be the 3rd straight game where the defense scored more or the same as the offense

[BuckyIsAB****]

The fact that Leach thought Costello should start over Will is a huge indictment on him. They aren't even in the same hemisphere.

He was worried about image. Clearly a wrong decision. Will gets it. Costello is burnt out. We got dicked by the refs and Mitchell has no dog in him. None

[defiantdog]

Mitchell must practice well and fight for the ball against our scout team of walk-ons

[Bothrops]

I would not play another game at Bama or Auburn until they can prove they call a fair contest. I dont care the repercussions.

[KOdawg1]

Osirus Mitchell is one of our worst signings ever. Thanks Dan.

He's not mentally tough.

[msbulldog]

I saw the ball hit Mitchell in his chest and he bobbled it. Where was the PI?

face guarding

[defiantdog]

I saw the ball hit Mitchell in his chest and he bobbled it. Where was the PI?
Face guarding is pass interference in college

[msstate7]

Osirus Mitchell is one of our worst signings ever. Thanks Dan.

Yet, he's still starting after 2 classes by Moorhead and 1 by leach.

[Cowbell]

He was worried about image. Clearly a wrong decision. Will gets it. Costello is burnt out. We got dicked by the refs and Mitchell has no dog in him. None

He is making a good track record of wrong decisions.

[R2Dawg]

Pass interference are you blind Gun.

Just because he didn't turn around I don't think makes it pass interference by itself. Our DBs used to play that way all the time. Not as much now.

Heath catch - refs.
Heath targeting - refs
OM targeting - refs.
ball spot - refs.

4 key plays on that possession where refs went homer Bama

[BeardoMSU]

Watching Will at QB definitely gives me more hope, tbh. He needs some WR's stat, tho.