Anyone else hearing

[Dawgfan77]

We have a coached lined up? Hearing both parties are in agreement

[Really Clark?]

A lot of smoke coming out about it

[Commercecomet24]

Yeah a lot of heat on this right now. Waiting game now.

[Travelingdawg]

Can someone PM the coach?

[MetEdDawg]

Can someone PM the coach?

Yeah I would like in on that action as well

[KOdawg1]

I refuse to get my hopes up

[ckDOG]

Spill it

[HoopsDawg]

can anyone comment if it is a current head coach and is he in the Power 5 or Group of 5.

[Mjoelner34]

Spill it

Moorhead extension**

[Red Sox Dawg]

Moorhead extension**

Rep given

[msstate7]

can anyone comment if it is a current head coach and is he in the Power 5 or Group of 5.

If this is true, I'd take napier and hud and give you the field for a big bet. Doubt norvell would lock himself in this early, and I just don't see anyone else

[RocketDawg]

Yeah I would like in on that action as well

Me too.

Might as well just PM everybody who posts very often. And if it turns out to be not true, so be it.

[bulldog20]

I'd like PM as well if able to give out name

[Cooterpoot]

Schiano for Moorhead swap

[KOdawg1]

Schiano for Moorhead swap

Forreal?

[TNDawg35]

Forreal?

No...

[Cooterpoot]

Forreal?

No but that would be great. Make Cohen look like a boss.

[KOdawg1]

No...

Wouldn't hate it.

[fader2103]

We are doing the retro like a lot of schools are doing. Welcome back Rocky!!!!

[Cooterpoot]

I haven’t heard a name. Just know Napier’s folks were pushing hard.

[Really Clark?]

I haven’t heard a name. Just know Napier’s folks were pushing hard.

Very hard

[Coach34]

Hearing we are making a move regardless of outcome Thursday.

[msstate7]

Hearing we are making a move regardless of outcome Thursday.

Hell yeah! I can pull for my team Thursday

[KOdawg1]

Hearing we are making a move regardless of outcome Thursday.

Christmas has come a month early

[towelliee]

I’m hearing Mike Norvell if he will retain Shoop as DC and TBuck Secondary

[Irondawg]

I’m nervous if it’s norvell. I’m not sure we have the tools to be an aerial attack.

[RougeDawg]

Hearing we are making a move regardless of outcome Thursday.

Can?t be true. There are so many here who think the cigar boys have not been working this since last season. This season just made their efforts easier, with little to no resistance.

But carry on. Heads back in the sand.

[Turfdawg67]

If true... let's rally the troops! Win one for the savant!! Destroy OM!!

[Cooterpoot]

I’m nervous if it’s norvell. I’m not sure we have the tools to be an aerial attack.

He put two RBs in the NFL last year.

[I seen it dawg]

Chizdik

[Turfdawg67]

Can?t be true. There are so many here who think the cigar boys have not been working this since last season. This season just made their efforts easier, with little to no resistance.

But carry on. Heads back in the sand.

So many? Can you name 5 posters this is applicable to...

[I seen it dawg]

I’m nervous if it’s norvell. I’m not sure we have the tools to be an aerial attack.

Norvell could end up in Tallahassee

[fader2103]

He put two RBs in the NFL last year.

Don't be bringing facts up in here. Someone wants to be the first to be right about a coach failing.

[msstate7]

Norvell could end up in Tallahassee

Yeah, I don't see him locking in till FSU is filled

[vv83]

I’m hearing Mike Norvell if he will retain Shoop as DC and TBuck Secondary

Stop... I can only get so erect

[Coach34]

Chizdik

This seems to be choice per "sources"

[Biguglyjoe]

Chizdik
Please tell me you're joking.

[towelliee]

I could be wrong I don’t post much but it came from ex family member who’s parents are well connected in Starkville

[fader2103]

Norvell could end up in Tallahassee

We have a casino closer than Tallahassee does.

[KOdawg1]

This seems to be choice per "sources"

Not sure how I feel about that. Better than what we have now, but it seems risky

[cheewgumm]

Seems like an absolute garbage and lazy choice.

Makes me wish we?d let Cohen go as well. So we?re going with a retread that only won at Auburn with great recruits when he had possibly the best player on SEC history?!! When he didn?t have that bit still had top recruits they stunk.

Terrible choice, imo.

[RougeDawg]

So many? Can you name 5 posters this is applicable to...

Me. C34. Commence. Really Clark. Believe ISID has hinted numerous times that things were in motion months ago. This is just off the top of my head.

The people who usually know about things such as this and tutorgate have known for about 12 months that certain people could see the writing on the wall last year and were moving toward a new head football coach.

[Cooterpoot]

They aren’t going to hire cheezedick. That would get Cohen fired.

[Coach34]

Seems like an absolute garbage and lazy choice.

Makes me wish we?d let Cohen go as well. So we?re going with a retread that only won at Auburn with great recruits when he had possibly the best player on SEC history?!! When he didn?t have that bit still had top recruits they stunk.

Terrible choice, imo.

Cohen aint the only one making this decision. Money talks now like it always has.

[Tbonewannabe]

Not sure how I feel about that. Better than what we have now, but it seems risky

Chizdick has been shitty his entire career that he didn't have Cam at QB. Two mediocre seasons, one Cam Newton season, and a 3 win season.

There is a reason he is on the SEC Network and that would be very disappointing. I would rather have Hud.

[civildawg]

Please tell me this is a sick joke to drive up clicks? Gene chizik?! Wtf

[FriarsPoint]

Cohen aint the only one making this decision. Money talks now like it always has.

IF this is true, it tells me Bracky is about to be shown the door and we’re taking the f ing gloves off.

[Quaoarsking]

Cohen aint the only one making this decision. Money talks now like it always has.

Who in the world would be putting up big money for Gene Chizik of all people??

[vv83]

Cohen aint the only one making this decision. Money talks now like it always has.

You hearing if Gene gets to pick his staff or if we have an OC in mind? Only way I like this hire is if we’re bringing in an all star OC and gene runs the defense and recruiting

[Coach34]

Who in the world would be putting up big money for Gene Chizik of all people??

Now THAT is an excellent question. I was shocked when told the name. We'll see how this plays out. His name could be floated first to prepare us for someone else- who knows. All I know is the consensus is that is change is being made.

[cheewgumm]

Hopefully someone comes to their senses here.

You don?t pick someone who had vastly superior talent to what you will have IN THE SAME league, who already failed, then equip him with less talent and expect a better result.

It?s dumb.

[Coach34]

You hearing if Gene gets to pick his staff or if we have an OC in mind? Only way I like this hire is if we’re bringing in an all star OC and gene runs the defense and recruiting

This is my most important question- you have to have an all-star OC coming with him if you make that hire.

[ZedFedder]

Usually when you have this many people talking about what they are hearing, truth is only one or two actually know anything that is legitimate, and they are usually limited at that. A lot of people who aren’t in the know want to be, and thus you get all these “sources”.

[MrKotter]

Surely Moorhead started the Chizik rumor.** Who the 17 would hire Chizik?

[Coach34]

Hopefully someone comes to their senses here.

You don?t pick someone who had vastly superior talent to what you will have IN THE SAME league, who already failed, then equip him with less talent and expect a better result.

It?s dumb.

Not saying I like the hire- but he was 33-19 at Auburn with a Natty. Cam led them to the title- but they had a damn good team to go with him.

[vv83]

This is my most important question- you have to have an all-star OC coming with him if you make that hire.

Yup. When I first heard it I hated it, but more I think about it the more it seems we may be trying the LSU route. They hated the Orgeron hire as much as we’d hate Chizik

[Randolph Dupree]

Norvell could end up in Tallahassee

My money is in Napier. Retaining TBuck and T Hughes for recruiting purposes.

[MetEdDawg]

This is my most important question- you have to have an all-star OC coming with him if you make that hire.

I think Chizik has the cache to bring some assistant coaches to Starkville. He's got a wide recruiting net and could bring some professionalism back to the program, which is why I think this hire might be talked about.

And he's been seen on tv by a lot of people. I could see that playing into recruiting some.

[MrKotter]

Nothing like going from happy as hell to pissed as 17 in 3 minutes. It can?t be Gene 17ing Chizik? Are we just seeing how shitty we can be?

[fader2103]

If it is Chizik we can start watching how much he talks up MSU.

[Todd4State]

Gene 17ing Chizek? 17? Fire Cohen too.

[Mjoelner34]

My money is in Napier. Retaining TBuck and T Hughes for recruiting purposes.

Mine too.

[OLJWales]

Not saying I like the hire- but he was 33-19 at Auburn with a Natty. Cam led them to the title- but they had a damn good team to go with him.

Gene at AU proved he was not driven or committed and didn't want to dedicate the time and effort required. He's a complacent coach and a complacent ESPN dude.

[Tripp McNeely]

So...we’re going with the Orgeron model? Let Gene recruit, don’t pay him a whole lot and spend a TON on assistants?

[FriarsPoint]

My money is in Napier. Retaining TBuck and T Hughes for recruiting purposes.

This is the only thing that makes sense.

[Cooterpoot]

I’ll believe the Cheezedick hire when I see it. Makes no sense and most fans would lose their shit over it.

[Todd4State]

Not saying I like the hire- but he was 33-19 at Auburn with a Natty. Cam led them to the title- but they had a damn good team to go with him.

38-38 overall. Including Iowa State. He's awful.

[BrunswickDawg]

IF this is true, it tells me Bracky is about to be shown the door and we’re taking the f ing gloves off.
Trooper Taylor new head of compliance?

[defiantdog]

Chizik has been in contact with our administration..... no finality here.

[Turfdawg67]

Me. C34. Commence. Really Clark. Believe ISID has hinted numerous times that things were in motion months ago. This is just off the top of my head.

The people who usually know about things such as this and tutorgate have known for about 12 months that certain people could see the writing on the wall last year and were moving toward a new head football coach.

That's not what you said. You said so many on here had their heads in the sand and didn't believe the "cigar boys" had things in motion.

[KOdawg1]

I want Napier or Norvell. Chizik is very underwhelming

[Todd4State]

I'd rather keep Moorhead than hire Chizek.

[Turfdawg67]

Not saying I like the hire- but he was 33-19 at Auburn with a Natty. Cam led them to the title- but they had a damn good team to go with him.

Take away the Cam season and he's 19-19.

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

Not saying I like the hire- but he was 33-19 at Auburn with a Natty. Cam led them to the title- but they had a damn good team to go with him.

Fire a coach with a head coaching record of 51-24 because he's not good enough only to hire a guy with a head coaching record of 38-38.

Maybe the most Mississippi State thing I have ever heard.

[Cooterpoot]

I want Napier or Norvell. Chizik is very underwhelming

You’re going to be happy.

[Todd4State]

Seriously- it's bullshit moves like this that are why our football program is what it is.

[Goldendawg]

Sly getting a do over. Has agreed to not bring Woody with him. Jo stays as OC, we avoid buyout!***** Please no to Chezick, I can't even spell his name correctly. Hail State!

[msstate7]

Per my sources...
HC - chizik
OC - woody McCorvey
DC - Ron Cooper

Really though, we'd hire Matt Luke away from OM before we fire Moorhead for chizik

[Coach34]

I'm just glad a change is being made. That right there shows we aren't going to sit around and watch the program rot. Im not sure Chiz is the choice and could be a decoy. I ws totally shocked when I heard the name. We'll see

[Todd4State]

Take away the Cam season and he's 19-19.

Take away Cam and it's a losing record.

I seriously think I would take Butch Jones and Derek Dooley over Chizek if forced at gunpoint.

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

Sly getting a do over. Has agreed to not bring Woody with him. Jo stays as OC, we avoid buyout!***** Please no to Chezick, I can't even spell his name correctly. Hail State!

There would be a minority of our fanbase that would be ok with this.

HE WAS A GOOD MAN!!!****

[Todd4State]

I'm just glad a change is being made. That right there shows we aren't going to sit around and watch the program rot. Im not sure Chiz is the choice and could be a decoy. I ws totally shocked when I heard the name. We'll see

The whole point is to change to get better. Not make a change to bury our program in the ground.

There's a reason you're not sure and shocked. Just like when you had never heard of Sly Croom before.

[War Machine Dawg]

Gene 17ing Chizek? 17? Fire Cohen too.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/IoQBWXhpwsd0c/source.gif

[Ari Gold]

Take away the Cam season and he's 19-19.

Take away his last season there he is 30-10.

[HoopsDawg]

If it is Chizik we can start watching how much he talks up MSU.

LOL, dude went 3-9 at AU. How is that even possible. Hahaha, no fcking way.

[Todd4State]

Take away his last season there he is 30-10.

Great. If you're defending it it's probably happening.

[Turfdawg67]

Take away Cam and it's a losing record.

I seriously think I would take Butch Jones and Derek Dooley over Chizek if forced at gunpoint.

I meant while at AU... you may still be right.

[Todd4State]

LOL, dude went 3-9 at AU. How is that even possible. Hahaha, no fcking way.

We should be more concerned about the 2-10's at Iowa State and honestly the 8-5's at Auburn.

Chizek is basically a shitty version of Jimbo Fisher.

[Coach34]

The whole point is to change to get better. Not make a change to bury our program in the ground.

There's a reason you're not sure and shocked. Just like when you had never heard of Sly Croom before.

Chiz would be better than Moorhead. To act like he wouldn't is stupid. And no- Chiz is not who I want to be our next HC. But the guy won a natty. Hell, that alone makes his resume better than Norvell or Napier.

[BeardoMSU]

Hearing we are making a move regardless of outcome Thursday.

Awesome. Lets hope this happens.

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

The whole point is to change to get better. Not make a change to bury our program in the ground.

There's a reason you're not sure and shocked. Just like when you had never heard of Sly Croom before.

Wait... So you are telling me that up and coming coaches arent chomping at the bit to come to a school with an all time below 500 record that just ran off a coach with a winning record after 2 years? I AM SHOCKED

[Todd4State]

I meant while at AU... you may still be right.

Well, it's 19-19 without Cam.

[DogsofAnarchy]

Take away his last season there he is 30-10.

Clear out some private messages Gold.

[BrunswickDawg]

LOL, dude went 3-9 at AU. How is that even possible. Hahaha, no fcking way.

Same way Terry Bowden went 3-8, and Tubby went 5-7 - once Yellawood decided he was done, the undermining began and the wheels fell off. Auburn comes with a lot of pluses, and a lot of minuses. (Not intended as a pro-Chizik post)

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

Chiz would be better than Moorhead. To act like he wouldn't is stupid. And no- Chiz is not who I want to be our next HC. But the guy won a natty. Hell, that alone makes his resume better than Norvell or Napier.

If Chiz doesn't work out maybe we can get Larry Coker.

[HoopsDawg]

Chiz would be better than Moorhead. To act like he wouldn't is stupid. And no- Chiz is not who I want to be our next HC. But the guy won a natty. Hell, that alone makes his resume better than Norvell or Napier.

If we hire Chiz, we better be bringing in Joe Brady as OC and Grantham as DC.

[Todd4State]

Wait... So you are telling me that up and coming coaches arent chomping at the bit to come to a school with an all time below 500 record that just ran off a coach with a winning record after 2 years? I AM SHOCKED

Who said that? All evidence appears to be the opposite.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

No way were hiring Chizik. 1) he's failed at a program with FAR better recruiting, fan support and money for assistants, 2) It would mean our administration thinks they're smarter than every other AD in the country for the past several years. NOBODY wants to hire him and he' been unemployed for years. To hire him is to say they're all wrong for passing on him. That would be so unbelievably arrogant.

No, it's gotta be a smoke screen. Gotta be. Norvell or Napier would be infinitely better hires on all fronts.

[BuckyIsAB****]

If it is Chizik Im out boys. You can only get kicked in the nuts so many times. I love State with all my heart but that is just ridiculous. There is no way in hell we are that incompetent.

[AROB44]

This seems to be choice per "sources"

Not according to my sources. But I'll just sit back and let it play out.

[Todd4State]

If we hire Chiz, we better be bringing in Joe Brady as OC and Grantham as DC.

We better be bringing in Sean Payton and Nick Saban.

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

Who said that? All evidence appears to be the opposite.

What do you mean? We are talking about Chiz being the next coach.

[Cooterpoot]

Wait... So you are telling me that up and coming coaches arent chomping at the bit to come to a school with an all time below 500 record that just ran off a coach with a winning record after 2 years? I AM SHOCKED

I can assure you, that’s not true. Not even close.

[HoopsDawg]

If it is Chizik Im out boys. You can only get kicked in the nuts so many times. I love State with all my heart but that is just ridiculous. There is no way in hell we are that incompetent.

It's a smokescreen.

[KOdawg1]

Regardless of who we hire, props to Elitedawgs for being the first to break news yet again.

Gene's Page people aren't saying shit.

[Todd4State]

If it is Chizik Im out boys. You can only get kicked in the nuts so many times. I love State with all my heart but that is just ridiculous. There is no way in hell we are that incompetent.

I don't want to make Cohen hold his beer. And if the Cigar Boys are behind this I'm pretty speechless because they may be actually worse than the people we have in charge.

[Cooterpoot]

It's a smokescreen.

Yep. Not even a good one.

[KOdawg1]

It's a smokescreen.

Well they did say there's was lots of smoke.. **

[msstate7]

If we putting out a smokescreen, why not say rich rod or macintyre?

[Goldendawg]

Chiz would be better than Moorhead. To act like he wouldn't is stupid. And no- Chiz is not who I want to be our next HC. But the guy won a natty. Hell, that alone makes his resume better than Norvell or Napier.

Heck, he had a QB who could throw a stolen laptop from an upper story dorm window on a line for 70 yards!

[KOdawg1]

delete

double post

[Coach34]

It's a smokescreen.

My thinking also.

Just glad a change is being made.

[Todd4State]

What do you mean? We are talking about Chiz being the next coach.

So the multiple people in the know all saying that Norvell and Napier have reached out to us are all lying? Did they get together at the Waffle House and go all in?

Plus Joe is not fired yet. All we would have to do is keep him to avoid Chizik.

[Todd4State]

If we putting out a smokescreen, why not say rich rod or macintyre?

Probably because it would be too obvious since we are playing them this week and it could be turned into us trying to create a distraction.

[Turfdawg67]

If it is Chizik Im out boys. You can only get kicked in the nuts so many times. I love State with all my heart but that is just ridiculous. There is no way in hell we are that incompetent.

I'm gonna join you. Who you going to be a fan of? I might just switch every year... hell a couple times a year. I've earned it!

[BuckyIsAB****]

If they are seriously considering Chizik I would like to put my name in the running. My agent will be in touch

[HoopsDawg]

If we putting out a smokescreen, why not say rich rod or macintyre?

I know one cigar boy and i just texted him. he texted me back, lol.

[fader2103]

Chiz would be better than Moorhead. To act like he wouldn't is stupid. And no- Chiz is not who I want to be our next HC. But the guy won a natty. Hell, that alone makes his resume better than Norvell or Napier.

If it is Chizik then all he had to do was dangle the Championship ring in front of the cigar boys and they creamed all over it.

[Randolph Dupree]

I would be unpleasantly shocked by Chiz. Here's the thing, not only was he not a good coach but there is quite a bit of shade to his AU recruiting. He, by no means, fits the criteria that we've used in hiring every coach since G Byrne was here (save Howland and that program was such a dumpster fire we were going to have to go retread). I just don't see any way that's true.

[Todd4State]

If they are seriously considering Chizik I would like to put my name in the running. My agent will be in touch

No kidding. I wouldn't be surprised if I could get Auburn to three wins on accident right now myself.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I'm gonna join you. Who you going to be a fan of? I might just switch every year... he'll a couple times a year. I've earned it!

Louisiana State University so we can still hate OM and enjoy a ''real rivalry''

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I'll be very surprised if it's Chizik.

[KOdawg1]

I'm gonna join you. Who you going to be a fan of? I might just switch every year... hell a couple times a year. I've earned it!

Lol, we really have man.

[HoopsDawg]

I would be unpleasantly shocked by Chiz. Here's the thing, not only was he not a good coach but there is quite a bit of shade to his AU recruiting. He, by no means, fits the criteria that we've used in hiring every coach since G Byrne was here (save Howland and that program was such a dumpster fire we were going to have to go retread). I just don't see any way that's true.

In addition to S&C and special teams, we need to significantly upgrade our compliance staff and strategy.

[Percho]

No way were hiring Chizik. 1) he's failed at a program with FAR better recruiting, fan support and money for assistants, 2) It would mean our administration thinks they're smarter than every other AD in the country for the past several years. NOBODY wants to hire him and he' been unemployed for years. To hire him is to say they're all wrong for passing on him. That would be so unbelievably arrogant.

No, it's gotta be a smoke screen. Gotta be. Norvell or Napier would be infinitely better hires on all fronts.

Be 58 years old 3 days after Christmas.

[Todd4State]

I would be unpleasantly shocked by Chiz. Here's the thing, not only was he not a good coach but there is quite a bit of shade to his AU recruiting. He, by no means, fits the criteria that we've used in hiring every coach since G Byrne was here (save Howland and that program was such a dumpster fire we were going to have to go retread). I just don't see any way that's true.

If it is a smokescreen it kind of makes me wonder if it's Hud. Because I know some people are against that but if MSU frames it as well.....it could have been Gene Chizik….all of a sudden Hud doesn't look so bad.

[AROB44]

C34.....biggest troll on ED.

[Todd4State]

In addition to S&C and special teams, we need to significantly upgrade our compliance staff and strategy.

Compliance to me is more of an AD issue. It does need to be overhauled. Put Bracky in charge of women's sports and other things that I don't care if they are on probation or not and hire lawyers for football, baseball, and basketball.

[Really Clark?]

I'll be very surprised if it's Chizik.

Listen to this man

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Yeah I've read these posts and I"m going to say it's a smokescreen. It's obvious some posters have been fed the Chizik rumors from pretty direct sources based on how adamant they are, but that's exactly what would happen if it's a smokescreen: Have someone in the AD department tell people the name of the smokescreen. If they don't get it from a good source they won't run with it and it's not a very good smoke screen then, is it?

It would be a god awful hire. he sucked ass evey year at Iowa State. He only won anything at Auburn because his boosters have more money than ours, and asside from Cam he way unperformed his talent level.

And as far as his "resume", I'd like it noted that EVERY SINGLE AD FOR YEARS HAS PASSED UP HIRING HIM. Are we really going to say every other AD is an idiot, that nobody else every thought to give a look at a guy with a Natty? There's a reason nobody wants him. I simply refuse to believe we'd go for him.

Oh, and this dumbass "if he brings in a top notch OC I'm ok with it" idea: 1) A true "top notch" OC would get hired away in 1 year and it would be increadibly hard to string together "top notch OC's" year after year that can call plays for our personnel. 2) WE ARE POOR! We don't have the money to pay for a top flight DC, OC, and have decent assistants. Chizik would have to be paid less than $3M to make it work out. That's why we've been looking for an OC as HC, because you save 1+M a year on the assistant salary needed

[Coach34]

C34.....biggest troll on ED.

I didn't start this thread- nor was I the 1st person to mention Chiz.

[Percho]

C34.....biggest troll on ED.

For years.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Notice how the more reliable inside info posters like iyok are not sold on it being Chiz, but all the guys who run with every rumor they hear are the ones pushing this? Yeah, it's a smoke

[Commercecomet24]

Listen to this man

Yep

[Todd4State]

Yeah I've read these posts and I"m going to say it's a smokescreen. It's obvious some posters have been fed the Chizik rumors from pretty direct sources based on how adamant they are, but that's exactly what would happen if it's a smokescreen: Have someone in the AD department tell people the name of the smokescreen. If they don't get it from a good source they won't run with it and it's not a very good smoke screen then, is it?

It would be a god awful hire. he sucked ass evey year at Iowa State. He only won anything at Auburn because his boosters have more money than ours, and asside from Cam he way unperformed his talent level.

And as far as his "resume", I'd like it noted that EVERY SINGLE AD FOR YEARS HAS PASSED UP HIRING HIM. Are we really going to say every other AD is an idiot, that nobody else every thought to give a look at a guy with a Natty? There's a reason nobody wants him. I simply refuse to believe we'd go for him.

Oh, and this dumbass "if he brings in a top notch OC I'm ok with it" idea: 1) A true "top notch" OC would get hired away in 1 year and it would be increadibly hard to string together "top notch OC's" year after year that can call plays for our personnel. 2) WE ARE POOR! We don't have the money to pay for a top flight DC, OC, and have decent assistants. Chizik would have to be paid less than $3M to make it work out. That's why we've been looking for an OC as HC, because you save 1+M a year on the assistant salary needed

Oh we have the money to make it work. Cohen just chooses to go cheap so that he can look smarter than the other AD's at Destin or wherever.

Hell, we could pay Hud 2.5 million or even less than Joe and get top notch OC/DC for 1.0-1.5 and not spend that much more than we are now. And still less than we were willing to pay Dan.

[Percho]

No offense 34 you just know how to stir a pot. Actually a compliment.

[Todd4State]

Yep

Thank you before my neighbors called the police for the cries of "no" and "why" coming from my house.

[KOdawg1]

Yep

Watcha hearing Commerce?

[Dawgfan77]

I didn't start this thread- nor was I the 1st person to mention Chiz.

You did not on both and I?m not hearing chiz. I am hearing that we are making a change and we an the agent of our guy had an agreement in place

We will be happy!

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

So the multiple people in the know all saying that Norvell and Napier have reached out to us are all lying? Did they get together at the Waffle House and go all in?

Plus Joe is not fired yet. All we would have to do is keep him to avoid Chizik.

I am positive people in the know at FSU and Arkansas have said that Norvell is reaching out to them too. He isn't coming here.

[Coach34]

No offense 34 you just know how to stir a pot. Actually a compliment.

Oh no doubt. Agree on that. I'm just pointing out I didn't start the thread nor throw out Chiz. Just saying I heard that also. Chiz would be better than Moorhead- especially if he goes the Orgeron route. Is that my choice to replace Moorhead? Well, hell no it isn't.

[ShotgunDawg]

I'll be very surprised if it's Chizik.

Wouldn't make any sense to have him lined up early. You could hire him at any time.

If we've already got a guy, it's a desirable guy that we've bought out. Meaning we said we'll offer you X amount of money to shut down your recruitment so to speak.

[Coach34]

I am positive people in the know at FSU and Arkansas have said that Norvell is reaching out to them too. He isn't coming here.

Norvell has an issue in his background that is going to hamper him getting a big job. FSU would take a helluva chance hiring him. Don't see it

[ShotgunDawg]

Norvell has an issue in his background that is going to hamper him getting a big job. FSU would take a helluva chance hiring him. Don't see it

Pete Rose

[Quaoarsking]

Fire a coach with a head coaching record of 51-24 because he's not good enough only to hire a guy with a head coaching record of 38-38.

Maybe the most Mississippi State thing I have ever heard.

OK, but Moorhead's record at Fordham has some huge asterisks because for most of his tenure, Fordham had football scholarships and the rest of his conference didn't. Imagine what his record would be here if the rest of the SEC were walk-on only.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Norvell has an issue in his background that is going to hamper him getting a big job. FSU would take a helluva chance hiring him. Don't see it

Why is nobody willing to say what it is? What's the harm in outright saying the rumor? Hell, if it's so bad we wouldn't hire him, then how could us knowing possibly affect anything?

[HoopsDawg]

Norvell has an issue in his background that is going to hamper him getting a big job. FSU would take a helluva chance hiring him. Don't see it

Fuente won at Memphis, Norvell is winning at Memphis, I wouldn't be surprised if the next guy wins at Memphis. Napier is now #9 in the country in Total Offense.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

If Chizik is even considered as a replacement, Cohen and Keenum should immediately resign.

[msstate7]

Fuente won at Memphis, Norvell is winning at Memphis, I wouldn't be surprised if the next guy wins at Memphis. Napier is now #9 in the country in Total Offense.

Fuente is winning at VT too, just saying. I think it's Napier though

[Coursesuper]

Pete Rose

No.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

If Chizik is even considered as a replacement, Cohen and Keenum should immediately resign.

"Oh I know who we should hire! There's this guy who should have been fired at Iowa State, fell into the Auburn job, only won because they cheated and bought Cam, fell off a cliff right after that, and has been unemployed, passed up by AD's every since. We'd also have to pay extra money to hire an OC. He's perfect!!!"

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

Why is nobody willing to say what it is? What's the harm in outright saying the rumor? Hell, if it's so bad we wouldn't hire him, then how could us knowing possibly affect anything?

Exactly. No one will say it is because:

a.) It isn't true
b.) They have no idea what they are talking about.

I would guess it's a mix of both. Jackie had issues too, but it didn't stop us.

People had no problem repeating rumors about Freeze at Briarcrest, but keep it hush hush about Norvell? Doubtful. I mean did the guy literally kill someone? I call BS

[Dawgfan77]

Oh no doubt. Agree on that. I'm just pointing out I didn't start the thread nor throw out Chiz. Just saying I heard that also. Chiz would be better than Moorhead- especially if he goes the Orgeron route. Is that my choice to replace Moorhead? Well, hell no it isn't.

Are you hearing big investments in assistants?

See if we have similar sources?

[TrapGame]

Gotta be Napier or Norvell.

If it's really Chiz there could be pitch forks and torches involved.

[Bothrops]

Yessss!!! Maybe he can bring Brian VanGorder in as DC***

[chef dixon]

I love this. This is peak ED

[Coursesuper]

Exactly. No one will say it is because:

a.) It isn't true
b.) They have no idea what they are talking about.

I would guess it's a mix of both. Jackie had issues too, but it didn't stop us.

People had no problem repeating rumors about Freeze at Briarcrest, but keep it hush hush about Norvell? Doubtful. I mean did the guy literally kill someone? I call BS

Did you ever stop to think that if we wanted to hire the guy why spread bad news that we're going to have to fight off in the end.

[Coach34]

Why is nobody willing to say what it is? What's the harm in outright saying the rumor? Hell, if it's so bad we wouldn't hire him, then how could us knowing possibly affect anything?

The rumor is that he has a domestic violence issue that keeps him from getting a major job because of today's PC world. Memphis didn't find out about it before he got hired. I don't know if its true or not- but that is the RUMOR.

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

Did you ever stop to think that if we wanted to hire the guy why spread bad news that we're going to have to fight off in the end.

No. Is every school in the south planning to possibly hire him one day? And have we been planning to hire him for 4 years because that's how long I have been hearing this garbage.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

The rumor is that he has a domestic violence issue that keeps him from getting a major job because of today's PC world. Memphis didn't find out about it before he got hired. I don't know if its true or not- but that is the RUMOR.

Thank you for having the stones to say it

[turkish]

The rumor is that he has a domestic violence issue that keeps him from getting a major job because of today's PC world. Memphis didn't find out about it before he got hired. I don't know if its true or not- but that is the RUMOR.

Like LSU’s HC?

[Coach34]

Like LSU’s HC?

You can do a lot of things in Louisiana that you cannot do in other states these days. I'm not judging- I'm not saying what the RUMOR is.

[fader2103]

I think that would have came out if it is "common knowledge" especially after the whole OSU fiasco. And for those who say well Memphis is keeping it hush hush or other things. All it would take is a ill fated journalist getting some police call records

[NCDawg]

Yup. When I first heard it I hated it, but more I think about it the more it seems we may be trying the LSU route. They hated the Orgeron hire as much as we?d hate Chizik

Lot of difference in Orgeron and Chizik. Chizik got fired at Iowa State and Auburn. Last I heard he was with Larry Fedora at North Carolina as DC. . Don't know whether he was fired or not there.

[ShotgunDawg]

Can't be Chizik that doesn't make any sense for us. Just did some research on him & he'd need an OC of super star quality. He's a DC guy. Doesn't make sense for us

[fader2103]

I guess eventually we will find out what the rumor is especially since his name will come up for some big schools coaching searches

[maroonmania]

Please tell me this is a sick joke to drive up clicks? Gene chizik?! Wtf

Exactly, if this is the choice I'm just as depressed as I would be if we made no move at all. Seems to be making a move to make a move that we can do on the cheap given the guy is not even coaching right now.

[TrapGame]

Lot of difference in Orgeron and Chizik. Chizik got fired at Iowa State and Auburn. Last I heard he was with Larry Fedora at North Carolina as DC. . Don't know whether he was fired or not there.

I think he left UNC for the SECN. He had some good defenses at UNC, IIRC. I'd take him as a DC but not as a HC. But, I wouldn't take him over Shoop.

[Msujd164]

Some of you need to make up your damn mind. Y?all bitch about bracky and then bitch about Chizik. I?m in. Give me Chizik and Trooper Taylor. Let?s play the recruiting game like everyone else and fn win some gd football games.

[Ari Gold]

Can't be Chizik that doesn't make any sense for us. Just did some research on him & he'd need an OC of super star quality. He's a DC guy. Doesn't make sense for us

Why does that matter ...

[Todd4State]

I am positive people in the know at FSU and Arkansas have said that Norvell is reaching out to them too. He isn't coming here.

So what? If it all falls apart we hire Hud. Not a big deal. But we should make Hud say no before even looking at Chizik.

[MrKotter]

Before Mullen was hired the ?in the know? folks said it was Chris Petersen and then Kevin Wilson. Chizik probably will not be the only name floated out that will not be the new coach

[Ari Gold]

Some of you need to make up your damn mind. Y?all bitch about bracky and then bitch about Chizik. I?m in. Give me Chizik and Trooper Taylor. Let?s play the recruiting game like everyone else and fn win some gd football games.

I’m ALL IN with that...

[maroonmania]

Yup. When I first heard it I hated it, but more I think about it the more it seems we may be trying the LSU route. They hated the Orgeron hire as much as we?d hate Chizik

Well if we have the money after hiring Chizik to go hire the best coordinators in the country then it might would work. Can we pay 2 million to our coordinators?

[ShotgunDawg]

Why does that matter ...

Because he'd need a stud OC & that guy would leave after 1 successful year.

IDK. if he brings Trooper & we go "all in", I could be down for that.

[Ari Gold]

Before Mullen was hired the ?in the know? folks said it was Chris Petersen and then Kevin Wilson. Chizik probably will not be the only name floated out that will not be the new coach


Agree... but everyone wanted some smoke this is the smoke.. Let’s see what happens

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Some of you need to make up your damn mind. Y?all bitch about bracky and then bitch about Chizik. I?m in. Give me Chizik and Trooper Taylor. Let?s play the recruiting game like everyone else and fn win some gd football games.

Who's the coach that's going to win them? The 2 you named won't.

[ShotgunDawg]

Well if we have the money after hiring Chizik to go hire the best coordinators in the country then it might would work. Can we pay 2 million to our coordinators?

If the OC is successful, he'll be gone ASAP. Can't build anything & have a constant revolving door.

What what happens to LSU when Brady becomes the Redskins OC next year.

[Todd4State]

Why does that matter ...

You don’t think someone that can coach is important? And by the way- we’re on probation so trotting out Trooper Taylor right now probably isn’t the smartest move.

[Ari Gold]

Because he'd need a stud OC & that guy would leave after 1 successful year.

IDK. if he brings Trooper & we go "all in", I could be down for that.


He might leave he might stay.. you pay him enough he might not leave unless he got a head gig. If that’s the case that just meant we ****ing won that year... I have no issue with that.
Bama replaces OC and DC every year
Chizik DC for 3 years at Aub was Tom Roof.. he is now the DC at App state.. I’m guessing that guy would leave App State and prob triple is salary ...

[dantheman4248]

So Chizik is the smokescreen for Hudspeth so that way they can frame it the best to all the fans. Hudspeth should give us enough money to throw at Brady/Shoop to have for coordinators. Keep Tony and Terrell on staff. All that's left is to hire someone who knows wtf to do with Special teams and it's a home run job in my book.

[ShotgunDawg]

You don’t think someone that can coach is important? And by the way- we’re on probation so trotting out Trooper Taylor right now probably isn’t the smartest move.

Let's hire Trooper, Barney, Saunders, etc & go for it.

[Ari Gold]

You don’t think someone that can coach is important? And by the way- we’re on probation so trotting out Trooper Taylor right now probably isn’t the smartest move.


Why is it set in stone we hire a coach that is also the OC ??or an offensive minded coach
Just curious
Didn’t quite work out with this hire

[ShotgunDawg]

He might leave he might stay.. you pay him enough he might not leave unless he got a head gig. If that’s the case that just meant we ****ing won that year... I have no issue with that.
Bama replaces OC and DC every year
Chizik DC for 3 years at Aub was Tom Roof.. he is now the DC at App state.. I’m guessing that guy would leave App State and prob triple is salary ...

Good points. Chizik is probably a great CEO type & I like the fact the he's been in the TV booth.

I think when coaches go in the TV, they gain a bigger perspective

[Dolphus Raymond]

I?m good with Chizik.

[ShotgunDawg]

Why is it set in stone we hire a coach that is also the OC ??or an offensive minded coach
Just curious

I think the reasoning is that at MSU you can find good defensive players & MSU can field a good defense even when switching DCs every few years.

however, to produce offense at MSU you need continuity & a specialized plan.

Not saying it's true, just the reasoning

[ShotgunDawg]

I?m good with Chizik.

Chizik is that hire that I wouldn't feel good about while admitting that it's completely possible that it works.

I just don't know

[KOdawg1]

It's got to be Napier

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I can't believe people are actually trying to sell Chizik as a good hire. Take away Cam's year he's had more losing seasons than winning seasons. He avg less than 5 wins a year minus Cam. He's a horrible coach. Please let's stop this madness.

[ShotgunDawg]

I can't believe people are actually trying to sell Chizik as a good hire. Take away Cam's year he's had more losing seasons than winning seasons. He avg less than 5 wins a year minus Cam. He's a horrible coach. Please let's stop this madness.

This is kind of my thought as well, but I'm willing to think deeper if anyone can offer reasons as to why I should

[Ari Gold]

I think the reasoning is that at MSU you can find good defensive players & MSU can field a good defense even when switching DCs every few years.

however, to produce offense at MSU you need continuity & a specialized plan.

Not saying it's true, just the reasoning

Besides Dak , who are the offensive skill players we have put in the nfl the last 15 years?
I understand what you are saying , but it’s not like we have been loaded with big time talent on offense
On defense we have

[ShotgunDawg]

Besides Dak , who are the offensive skill players we have put in the nfl the last 15 years?
I understand what you are saying , but it’s not like we have been loaded with big time talent on offense
On defense we have

Yeah, that's my point.

We can field a goof defense with a revolving door at DC because we recruit well on that side of the ball but in order to score points, we need a magician of sorts & we can't turn that coaching spot over every year

Hiring a DC as our head coach leads to 2018 over and over and over with no ceiling

[Dolphus Raymond]

What coach could best hold our recruiting class together? Thoughts?

[ShotgunDawg]

What coach could best hold our recruiting class together? Thoughts?

Hud, Malzahn, Norvell.

I think Norvell probably could since he's likely to some degree recruited most of our recruiting class already

[Todd4State]

Why is it set in stone we hire a coach that is also the OC ??or an offensive minded coach
Just curious
Didn’t quite work out with this hire

It doesn’t matter to me whether they are an offensive coach or a defensive coach. I just don’t think he’s a good coach.

[PMDawg]

Before Mullen was hired the ?in the know? folks said it was Chris Petersen and then Kevin Wilson. Chizik probably will not be the only name floated out that will not be the new coach

Exactly. And not to be a jerk, but 34 has a pretty poor track record when it comes to coaching hires.

[Cooterpoot]

Chizik is not going to be our coach.

[maroonmania]

Fuente is winning at VT too, just saying. I think it's Napier though

Actually Fuente has been disappointing at VT to what most people were expecting.

[ShotgunDawg]

Actually Fuente has been disappointing at VT to what most people were expecting.

Watching VT is like watching paint dry

[MrKotter]

I can't believe people are actually trying to sell Chizik as a good hire. Take away Cam's year he's had more losing seasons than winning seasons. He avg less than 5 wins a year minus Cam. He's a horrible coach. Please let's stop this madness.

^^^this^^^^

[Todd4State]

Yeah, that's my point.

We can field a goof defense with a revolving door at DC because we recruit well on that side of the ball but in order to score points, we need a magician of sorts & we can't turn that coaching spot over every year

Hiring a DC as our head coach leads to 2018 over and over and over with no ceiling
It seems to me like hiring offensive coaches has limited us even more because we have to have players that fit their system. That’s why Dan “missed” on Gardner Minchew. I’m sure it hurt us with AJ Brown too. That’s part of the reason why we have no receivers right now.

[Bubb Rubb]

Regardless of who we hire, props to Elitedawgs for being the first to break news yet again.

Gene's Page people aren't saying shit.

ED hasn't broken shit. it's a crazy thread to drive clicks. There's a better chance for Bill Belichick to be the next coach than Gene F'n Chizik. It's most likely that this time next year we will still be bitching about Moorhead unless it gets ugly Thursday.

[Todd4State]

Watching VT is like watching paint dry

I would take Fuente. I can watch paint dry while we win nine games.

[dantheman4248]

Actually Fuente has been disappointing at VT to what most people were expecting.

He's starting to turn it around and make a competent team in the Coastal but no one is paying attention. If the line vs. Clemson is +20 or more I'd take VT and the points tbh.

[msstate7]

I can't believe people are actually trying to sell Chizik as a good hire. Take away Cam's year he's had more losing seasons than winning seasons. He avg less than 5 wins a year minus Cam. He's a horrible coach. Please let's stop this madness.

You should know that no matter what, some here are gonna defend anything and everything and paint it in the best light possible when it comes to anything state related. Fortunately, we ain't hiring chizik.

[ShotgunDawg]

It seems to me like hiring offensive coaches has limited us even more because we have to have players that fit their system. That’s why Dan “missed” on Gardner Minchew. I’m sure it hurt us with AJ Brown too. That’s part of the reason why we have no receivers right now.

No, hiring rigid offensive coaches has limited us.

Hiring a defensive coach in no way fixes that.

Unless you recruit 5 star talent year in & year out, I don't know how you swap out your OC every other year & have a competent offense. Doesn't add up.

[maroonmania]

Yeah I've read these posts and I"m going to say it's a smokescreen. It's obvious some posters have been fed the Chizik rumors from pretty direct sources based on how adamant they are, but that's exactly what would happen if it's a smokescreen: Have someone in the AD department tell people the name of the smokescreen. If they don't get it from a good source they won't run with it and it's not a very good smoke screen then, is it?

It would be a god awful hire. he sucked ass evey year at Iowa State. He only won anything at Auburn because his boosters have more money than ours, and asside from Cam he way unperformed his talent level.

And as far as his "resume", I'd like it noted that EVERY SINGLE AD FOR YEARS HAS PASSED UP HIRING HIM. Are we really going to say every other AD is an idiot, that nobody else every thought to give a look at a guy with a Natty? There's a reason nobody wants him. I simply refuse to believe we'd go for him.

Oh, and this dumbass "if he brings in a top notch OC I'm ok with it" idea: 1) A true "top notch" OC would get hired away in 1 year and it would be increadibly hard to string together "top notch OC's" year after year that can call plays for our personnel. 2) WE ARE POOR! We don't have the money to pay for a top flight DC, OC, and have decent assistants. Chizik would have to be paid less than $3M to make it work out. That's why we've been looking for an OC as HC, because you save 1+M a year on the assistant salary needed

Why the need for a smokescreen? We currently still have a HC employed. Isn't it enough just to have rumors that a change is likely to be made?

[Ari Gold]

It doesn?t matter to me whether they are an offensive coach or a defensive coach. I just don?t think he?s a good coach.

Fair.. and you probably arent in the minority there...

[parabrave]

Can someone PM the coach?

Can someone PM Cohen or Keen.

[Coach34]

Exactly. And not to be a jerk, but 34 has a pretty poor track record when it comes to coaching hires.

say what? I broke Mullen leaving. I broke Croom being fired. This kind of stuff is always fluid and goes all kind of ways- but people lost their mind when I broke Mullen leaving. JoVester is not being retained. Deal with it

[dawgday166]

Chizdick has been shitty his entire career that he didn't have Cam at QB. Two mediocre seasons, one Cam Newton season, and a 3 win season.

There is a reason he is on the SEC Network and that would be very disappointing. I would rather have Hud.

If he were CEO type, I wouldn't mind seeing Hud as OC and Shoop as DC. I think that combo might be good.

Could be wrong but I still think Mullen's more creative years with lesser talent was 09 and 10 with Hud as Co-OC. And I believe the rumor Hud & Huff were behind AU game plan last year. And I still like Shoop as DC too.

All that probably ain't happening tho.

[ScottH]

It won't be Chizik.

For god's sake message boards can be humorous.

[Ari Gold]

ED hasn't broken shit. it's a crazy thread to drive clicks. There's a better chance for Bill Belichick to be the next coach than Gene F'n Chizik. It's most likely that this time next year we will still be bitching about Moorhead unless it gets ugly Thursday.

You are welcome..
And I dont think if ED was trying to drive clicks it would roll out with Gene Chizik...

[Coach34]

ED hasn't broken shit. it's a crazy thread to drive clicks.

ED has broken a change is being made at HC regardless of Thursday's outcome. We'll remind you of this when it happens

[KOdawg1]

ED hasn't broken shit. it's a crazy thread to drive clicks. There's a better chance for Bill Belichick to be the next coach than Gene F'n Chizik. It's most likely that this time next year we will still be bitching about Moorhead unless it gets ugly Thursday.
Youre an angry one, huh

[Todd4State]

No, hiring rigid offensive coaches has limited us.

Hiring a defensive coach in no way fixes that.

Unless you recruit 5 star talent year in & year out, I don't know how you swap out your OC every other year & have a competent offense. Doesn't add up.

You don’t hire Mike Leach and ask him to run the ball a bunch of times. You don’t ask Paul Johnson to run a passing offense. Coaches are going to adapt only to a degree because of what they know and are comfortable with. That’s part of why Moorhead hasn’t worked. We don’t have the receivers right now to make it work. That’s not to say we can’t. So honestly the best way for us to adapt is to have someone that is willing to bring in other people that are more comfortable with running something that works with the current personnel.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

No, hiring rigid offensive coaches has limited us.

Hiring a defensive coach in no way fixes that.

Unless you recruit 5 star talent year in & year out, I don't know how you swap out your OC every other year & have a competent offense. Doesn't add up.

I'm with you shotgun. Offenses can run spread, power, spread option, air raid, triple option, etc. Defenses have to be able to defend against all of them decently well. That's why a new DC can come in and rock and role if the talent is there. 3-4 vs 4-3 is the only drama as far as new systems can go. But on O, it seems extremely hard to find and OC that's willing to adapt their ideal way of doing things. Some -like Joe or Malzahn or Canada 2 years ago- can't even make their own systems work. The really good OC's get poached after 1 year

[ShotgunDawg]

I'm with you shotgun. Offenses can run spread, power, spread option, air raid, triple option, etc. Defenses have to be able to defend against all of them decently well. That's why a new DC can come in and rock and role if the talent is there. 3-4 vs 4-3 is the only drama as far as new systems can go. But on O, it seems extremely hard to find and OC that's willing to adapt their ideal way of doing things. Some -like Joe or Malzahn or Canada 2 years ago- can't even make their own systems work. The really good OC's get poached after 1 year

A good OC has to be your head coach

[Bubb Rubb]

ED has broken a change is being made at HC regardless of Thursday's outcome. We'll remind you of this when it happens

No, I imagine you will do what you usually do, and disappear for a few weeks when it doesn't happen.

If we win Thursday and Moorhead is still gone, it won't be because he was fired.

[Msujd164]

Give Mullen 10 mil. I miss him.

[Todd4State]

If he were CEO type, I wouldn't mind seeing Hud as OC and Shoop as DC. I think that combo might be good.

Could be wrong but I still think Mullen's more creative years with lesser talent was 09 and 10 with Hud as Co-OC. And I believe the rumor Hud & Huff were behind AU game plan last year. And I still like Shoop as DC too.

All that probably ain't happening tho.

I’m not sure that Hud would want to be a OC here. He might. It seems like he always has aspired to be a head coach. I agree about Hud when he was here with Mullen. I loved running the wishbone on the goal line and it seemed like we were more creative with him. He might keep Shoop since they coached together at MSU.

[Coach34]

No, I imagine you will do what you usually do, and disappear for a few weeks when it doesn't happen.

If we win Thursday and Moorhead is still gone, it won't be because he was fired.

well that's an outright lie. The only time I have disappeared from Elite is my dispute with the owners. Moorhead wont be the coach in 2020. That's been confirmed

[MetEdDawg]

I've reached out to multiple Auburn people just to get their opinion of Chizik.

I think it's a smokescreen too, but every one of them said they would take him back right now. Said Auburn interfered with the Chizik era too much and that heavily contributed to his poor record

[Todd4State]

Give Mullen 10 mil. I miss him.

I don’t. Just because Joe isn’t good it doesn’t mean that Dan was awesome.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

A good OC has to be your head coach

Plus it same you $1+M a year on an OC, so you an pay more for assistants. People on here love to say COhen is cheap but DCs getting poached was a problem under Loafers too

[BuckyIsAB****]

I've reached out to multiple Auburn people just to get their opinion of Chizik.

I think it's a smokescreen too, but every one of them said they would take him back right now. Said Auburn interfered with the Chizik era too much and that heavily contributed to his poor record

Bullshit. Malzahn is better than Chizik. Malzahn is a good coach. Tell the Auburn people to send him over here

[msu15]

Chizik named Kylin his SEC standout of the week. If there’s smoke.......

[BuckyIsAB****]

Chizik named Kylin his SEC standout of the week. If there’s smoke.......

Probably bc he put up good stats in a shitty conf schedule week. Dont read too much into that

[dawgday166]

Chizik named Kylin his SEC standout of the week. If there’s smoke.......

You know ... yea he did and I'm like "give me a break man" SMH.

[Bubb Rubb]

well that's an outright lie. The only time I have disappeared from Elite is my dispute with the owners. Moorhead wont be the coach in 2020. That's been confirmed

I hope you're right. But if it's been confirmed, someone should let Cohen know.

[msu15]

Probably bc he put up good stats in a shitty conf schedule week. Dont read too much into that

Haha I know I’m just stirring it.

[PKADogs55]

SPS is having a field day with this thread BTW. Didnt know they disliked ED so much lol.

[KOdawg1]

SPS is having a field day with this thread BTW. Didnt know they disliked ED so much lol.

Are they still running?

[turkish]

“Smokescreen” is code for: my source told me something dumb to make me quit bothering them. Not only was I gullible enough to believe the joke, I also posted it online.

[msu15]

SPS is having a field day with this thread BTW. Didnt know they disliked ED so much lol.

I looked and saw that they had one thread going with 8 posts. Big time field day.

[HoopsDawg]

Give Mullen 10 mil. I miss him.

Don't be that guy that can't get over the girl who dumped him. Mullen wanted to leave, it had nothing to do with money.

[OLJWales]

I've reached out to multiple Auburn people just to get their opinion of Chizik.

I think it's a smokescreen too, but every one of them said they would take him back right now. Said Auburn interfered with the Chizik era too much and that heavily contributed to his poor record

AU Cigar Boys interfered with AU winning? Not buying. Not buying AU fans would trade either. This reeks of total bullshit.

[PMDawg]

say what? I broke Mullen leaving. I broke Croom being fired. This kind of stuff is always fluid and goes all kind of ways- but people lost their mind when I broke Mullen leaving. JoVester is not being retained. Deal with it

Deal with it? Lol. I've wanted him gone longer than most. You didn't break that he was gone, we've been talking about it for weeks. I'm talking about the Chizik part.
And You had Peterson as our next coach, then it was Kenny Payne, then Rick Ray was staying and Howland was a pipe dream, then it was Pruitt...you just don't have a good track record. You did have Mullen leaving though. So, like 1 out of 5? I'm just saying, if you're saying Chizik, then I'm pretty confident it's not him.

[RougeDawg]

SPS is having a field day with this thread BTW. Didnt know they disliked ED so much lol.

The reason they dislike ED so much is because the OM mods over there can control the message. They cannot here. Therefore their ability to silence those they do not want speaking is taken away. Did I miss anything?

[OLJWales]

I can't believe people are actually trying to sell Chizik as a good hire. Take away Cam's year he's had more losing seasons than winning seasons. He avg less than 5 wins a year minus Cam. He's a horrible coach. Please let's stop this madness.

Ifyouonlyknew: It would be great if you had any insider info that Gene is NOT in consideration. Would make me and others a lot less antsy. I would be sick to my stomach if we hired this guy.

[BrunswickDawg]

AU Cigar Boys interfered with AU winning? Not buying. Not buying AU fans would trade either. This reeks of total bullshit.

You mean the same bunch that was flying in Petrino to interview while Tuberville was having an 8-5 season? Or the ones who cut off Tiny Bowden after a 10-3 season for banging the wrong Pom squad girl (allegedly). No, they never interfere****

[msbulldog]

Give Mullen 10 mil. I miss him.

Hell no, you miss him job hunting every year? You miss losing to mississippi, because Mullet quit paying attention?

[HoopsDawg]

AU Cigar Boys interfered with AU winning? Not buying. Not buying AU fans would trade either. This reeks of total bullshit.

you must be like 22 years old.

[sandjunky]

Deal with it? Lol. I've wanted him gone longer than most. You didn't break that he was gone, we've been talking about it for weeks. I'm talking about the Chizik part.
And You had Peterson as our next coach, then it was Kenny Payne, then Rick Ray was staying and Howland was a pipe dream, then it was Pruitt...you just don't have a good track record. You did have Mullen leaving though. So, like 1 out of 5? I'm just saying, if you're saying Chizik, then I'm pretty confident it's not him.

Pruitt was going to be the coach o so he thought, however, a call was made to certain person 90 miles East and the deal was off. Pruitt had pretty terse words with said person East of Starkville

[msstate7]

Is the whole thread BS or just the chizik part bc that certainly is?

[MetEdDawg]

AU Cigar Boys interfered with AU winning? Not buying. Not buying AU fans would trade either. This reeks of total bullshit.

I'm just relaying what they told me. And you must not know a lot about Auburn.

I had a direct family member very involved in Auburn. There isn't a program that has more booster interference in the country than Auburn.

[War Machine Dawg]

You mean the same bunch that was flying in Petrino to interview while Tuberville was having an 8-5 season? Or the ones who cut off Tiny Bowden after a 10-3 season for banging the wrong Pom squad girl (allegedly). No, they never interfere****


you must be like 22 years old.

For real doe.

[OLJWales]

You mean the same bunch that was flying in Petrino to interview while Tuberville was having an 8-5 season? Or the ones who cut off Tiny Bowden after a 10-3 season for banging the wrong Pom squad girl (allegedly). No, they never interfere****

I know they operate in strange ways on The Plains. I get that. But until they have their new man or have decided the current guy isn't gonna cut it, They are all in for winning. AU Cigar Boys didn't affect all the losses Gene pile up at AU. Interfere with hiring and firing? yep. With game day and wins? nope.

[gtowndawg]

So what? If it all falls apart we hire Hud. Not a big deal. But we should make Hud say no before even looking at Chizik.

Agreed. No way is Chizik going to happen. If it goes south with Norvell, get HUd (who I personally be happy with).

[TNDawg35]

Is the whole thread BS or just the chizik part bc that certainly is?

Just the Chizik part...