Anyone else hearing

[TheLostDawg]

So the smoke is chizik but it's really Hud and keeping Shoop, Hughes, T buck, etc. On and bringing Richardson and Adams back?

[Turfdawg67]

Give Mullen 10 mil. I miss him.


Lol! What is that... like $1.42MM / win?? No West Championship, no Natl Championship... No thanks.

[gtowndawg]

Is the whole thread BS or just the chizik part bc that certainly is?

Just the Chizik part....hopefully.

[TrapGame]

Is the whole thread BS or just the chizik part bc that certainly is?

The Chizik part gotta be BS. I don't believe we'd do that. I'm thinking it's probably Napier.

[OLJWales]

you must be like 22 years old.

multiply that by 2 them some. interfering with coaching selections / firings is one thing, interfering so the existing coach loses is another.

[msstate7]

The Chizik part gotta be BS. I don't believe we'd do that. I'm thinking it's probably Napier.

If there's a deal in place for real, guarantee it's Napier or hud

[TheLostDawg]

Hud isn't going to become assistant. He's trying to move up as a HC I believe. Much like Grantham isn't going to come as a DC. He was offered here before Shoop and turned it down from what I've heard.

[msbulldog]

Napier!

[TrapGame]

If there's a deal in place for real, guarantee it's Napier or hud

Hell, I'd rather hire Hud than Chizik.

[msbulldog]

Hud isn't going to become assistant. He's trying to move up as a HC I believe. Much like Grantham isn't going to come as a DC. He was offered here before Shoop and turned it down from what I've heard.

That was before his son was offered a baseball scholly here.

[OLJWales]

I would give the edge to Napier over Norvell. I would think the D would be tougher and better conditioned under Napier. I really like the O production under Norvell though. Does Norvell have any SEC experience besides beating OM?

[BrunswickDawg]

I know they operate in strange ways on The Plains. I get that. But until they have their new man or have decided the current guy isn't gonna cut it, They are all in for winning. AU Cigar Boys didn't affect all the losses Gene pile up at AU. Interfere with hiring and firing? yep. With game day and wins? nope.

That's a helluva back pedal there fella. And even what you are selling isn't true. Those AU guys start to get itchy as soon as they lose 2 games. Have for decades. They start drumming up all kinds of drama to cast doubts on the coach - and that interferes with winning. They were stirring up shit on Chizik his last 2 years (never trust Malzahn, either - he has been in the middle of 2 coups against HC). Hell, one of the boosters tried to take over their Board of Trustees to gain more power within the program.

[I seen it dawg]

So the smoke is chizik but it's really Hud and keeping Shoop, Hughes, T buck, etc. On and bringing Richardson and Adams back?

Not out of the realm...

[OLJWales]

That was before his son was offered a baseball scholly here.

Is Grantham's son a signee for our baseball team?

[Hambone]

Yes he is

[I seen it dawg]

That's a helluva back pedal there fella. And even what you are selling isn't true. Those AU guys start to get itchy as soon as they lose 2 games. Have for decades. They start drumming up all kinds of drama to cast doubts on the coach - and that interferes with winning. They were stirring up shit on Chizik his last 2 years (never trust Malzahn, either - he has been in the middle of 2 coups against HC). Hell, one of the boosters tried to take over their Board of Trustees to gain more power within the program.

Ding ding ding. And home run comment on Malzahn. He's a shitbag.

[Coach34]

Deal with it? Lol. I've wanted him gone longer than most. You didn't break that he was gone, we've been talking about it for weeks. I'm talking about the Chizik part.
And You had Peterson as our next coach, then it was Kenny Payne, then Rick Ray was staying and Howland was a pipe dream, then it was Pruitt...you just don't have a good track record. You did have Mullen leaving though. So, like 1 out of 5? I'm just saying, if you're saying Chizik, then I'm pretty confident it's not him.

First of all- I called Croom being removed before anybody else. All I heard was "we cant fire the SEC COY the next season".
Peterson accepted the job- slept on it and changed his mind. That's been confirmed.
Payne has been confirmed at the final choice along with Ray- so whats the problem?
I called Mullen leaving before anybody else associated with State and people on this site went apeshit because of it- that's documented.
Pruitt was pushed hard and we went another direction. Searches are fluid- it is what it is. Looks like we should have hired Pruitt instead doesn't it?

[dawgday166]

Ding ding ding. And home run comment on Malzahn. He's a shitbag.

I don't understand the Gus Bus love on here sometimes. He has good coaching moments but he pretty much a Freeze look-a-like/wannabe ... without the religious overtones.

[OLJWales]

That's a helluva back pedal there fella. And even what you are selling isn't true. Those AU guys start to get itchy as soon as they lose 2 games. Have for decades. They start drumming up all kinds of drama to cast doubts on the coach - and that interferes with winning. They were stirring up shit on Chizik his last 2 years (never trust Malzahn, either - he has been in the middle of 2 coups against HC). Hell, one of the boosters tried to take over their Board of Trustees to gain more power within the program.

They start stirring up shit once they know the guy they have sucks. Gene had to start sucking before they got itchy. Ain't back pedaling a bit. Unless you wanna blame this thread on Thursday's thrashing we're about to take.

[Commercecomet24]

Ding ding ding. And home run comment on Malzahn. He's a shitbag.

Malzahn is a backstabbing turd. No surprise him and freeze are such good buddies

[Coach34]

Hell, I'd rather hire Hud than Chizik.

#MeToo

[gtowndawg]

Hell, I'd rather hire Hud than Chizik.

Absolutely! Hud >>>>>>>>> Chizik. Not even close in my mind.

[I seen it dawg]

Gonna take a whole lotta cash to get Chizdik off tv. We ain't gonna do it.

[TrapGame]

I don't understand the Gus Bus love on here sometimes. He has good coaching moments but he pretty much a Freeze look-a-like/wannabe ... without the religious overtones.

Gus can't get it done at AU cheating their asses off.

[Coach34]

aGAIN- here is my thoughts on Hud (posted earlier today):


Hud would be the "safe" hire for us.

He is better than what we have currently
Just won Austin Peay their 1st conference title
Knows current players on our team and could convince a couple of QB's to stay put and not transfer
Will run a power spread offense because he would adapt to his talent
Has contacts all over Miss, Louisiana, and Alabama- 90% of our recruiting footprint
Good recruiter
Would not leave State for another job regardless of how much he won

It wouldn't be a sexy hire- but after this last disaster- safe aint such a bad way to go.

[dawgday166]

Gus can't get it done at AU cheating their asses off.

They have a tough schedule this year but he will lose games he's supposed to win all the time. But he will also win some he's supposed to lose. I bet on him always performing the opposite of preseason predictions by media.

[Maroonthirteen]

Genius move by whomever to float Chiz out there. Cause a panic, then when the natives are on suicide watch, slip in Hud for a gauge of acceptance.

Btw, HUD would be a good hire. We aren’t getting Norvell with so many other southern jobs open/opportunities maybe next year. .

[OLJWales]

Ever since Bowden spilled the beans on the AU slush fund, and the things I've seen since, you would be hard pressed to find a more corrupt program outside of OxFART. If you can't win 9-10 a year there, you just ain't HC material.

[BrunswickDawg]

They start stirring up shit once they know the guy they have sucks. Gene had to start sucking before they got itchy. Ain't back pedaling a bit. Unless you wanna blame this thread on Thursday's thrashing we're about to take.
Bowden went 11-0, 9-1-1, 8-4, 8-4, and was in a 10-3 season when they started to turn on him - but I guess he sucked. Tubby won 5, 9, 7, 9, and was in an 8 win season during Jetgate - then won 13 and put some egg on Yellawood's face. But I guess he sucked too. Chizik won a Natty - and next season had Malzahn stabbing him in the back trying to do what he did to Nutt - and convinced everyone involved he was the wizard behind the curtain. I'm not a Chizik fan - but Malzahn is a snake.

[gtowndawg]

Well, at the very least, thanks for the entertainment tonight ED. Nothing better than football coaching speculation threads. I eat it up every time.

[Coursesuper]

#MeToo

#MeToo

[TrapGame]

Genius move by whomever to float Chiz out there. Cause a panic, then when the natives are on suicide watch, slip in Hud for a gauge of acceptance.

Btw, HUD would be a good hire. We aren’t getting Norvell with so many other southern jobs open/opportunities maybe next year. .

Float a turd before you spray the Fabreeze. Interesting.

I wonder if we'll hear more Moorhead to _________________ rumors this week too?

[Todd4State]

I would give the edge to Napier over Norvell. I would think the D would be tougher and better conditioned under Napier. I really like the O production under Norvell though. Does Norvell have any SEC experience besides beating OM?

The thing about Norvell is I can not see Cohen agreeing on someone that has anything in their background whatever it may be after what happened with Cann. And honestly a Cann situation with our football program would be 10x worse because of the popularity of college football. It would be up there with Renardo fighting Elgin Bailey over nachos in Hawaii.

[dawgday166]

I'm warming up to Hud myself. What's worse could happen? We better off in 3 or 4 years if we have to replace him than we are now most likely. He'd put his heart and soul into this job, work overtime on recruiting, and I think he has a very good offensive mind.

Think he might keep Shoop too. Him and Shoop will throw knuckleballs all day at opposing teams in game plans.

ETA: And if he is very successful he ain't going anywhere most likely. Won't be losing to OM cause he's job shopping.

[OLJWales]

Bowden went 11-0, 9-1-1, 8-4, 8-4, and was in a 10-3 season when they started to turn on him - but I guess he sucked. Tubby won 5, 9, 7, 9, and was in an 8 win season during Jetgate - then won 13 and put some egg on Yellawood's face. But I guess he sucked too. Chizik won a Natty - and next season had Malzahn stabbing him in the back trying to do what he did to Nutt - and convinced everyone involved he was the wizard behind the curtain. I'm not a Chizik fan - but Malzahn is a snake.

y'all have made a mountain out of a mole hill on this topic. All I've ever said was that Gene's incompetence as a head coach has little to nothing to do with the AU Cigar Boys, no matter how ruthless and unscrupulous they are. If you think he is the 2nd coming and was only held back by AU's Cigar Boys, Carry On. Cuz I'm done. This is ridiculous.

[Todd4State]

Float a turd before you spray the Fabreeze. Interesting.

I wonder if we'll hear more Moorhead to _________________ rumors this week too?

Well interestingly enough the Schiano deal has apparently fallen through there all of a sudden....on a SUNDAY.

They apparently need to learn how to play this game a little better.

[runwildjerious]

Well, at the very least, thanks for the entertainment tonight ED. Nothing better than football coaching speculation threads. I eat it up every time.

Completely agree. Threads like this are what made ED.

That said, this is why Hud would be a good hire. I am absolutely confident he would win here and we wouldn?t have to go through coaching change threads (either because of ineptitude or the coach trying to get the heck out of here).

[Todd4State]

I'm warming up to Hud myself. What's worse could happen? We better off on 3 or 4 years if we have to replace him than we are now most likely. He'd put his heart and soul into this job, work overtime on recruiting, and I think he has a very good offensive mind.

Think he might keep Shoop too. Him and Shoop will throw knuckleballs all day at opposing teams in game plans.

ETA: And if he is very successful he ain't going anywhere most likely. Won't be losing to OM cause he's job shopping.

As I've said before there's something to be said about someone that really wants to be somewhere.

See Cohen with baseball. Richard Williams with basketball. Rick Stansbury with basketball.

We need someone that will connect with the alumni and fans and a guy from Vermont is going to have a little more difficult time connecting with people from Mississippi.

[msbulldog]

aGAIN- here is my thoughts on Hud (posted earlier today):


Hud would be the "safe" hire for us.

He is better than what we have currently
Just won Austin Peay their 1st conference title
Knows current players on our team and could convince a couple of QB's to stay put and not transfer
Will run a power spread offense because he would adapt to his talent
Has contacts all over Miss, Louisiana, and Alabama- 90% of our recruiting footprint
Good recruiter
Would not leave State for another job regardless of how much he won

It wouldn't be a sexy hire- but after this last disaster- safe aint such a bad way to go.

Pretty much the same for Napier and 5 years under Dabo and 5 years under Saban.

[Todd4State]

Completely agree. Threads like this are what made ED.

That said, this is why Hud would be a good hire. I am absolutely confident he would win here and we wouldn?t have to go through coaching change threads (either because of ineptitude or the coach trying to get the heck out of here).

Coaching searches are the best.

Now let me go change my underwear.**

[Todd4State]

Pretty much the same for Napier and 5 years under Dabo and 5 years under Saban.

I'd be fine with Hud or Napier.

I don't know why MSU would put out a smokescreen for Napier though?

[Todd4State]

Is Grantham's son a signee for our baseball team?

Yes. And it's not like Florida has a bad baseball program.

[shrimp]

100%. Couldn?t agree more with that comment.


Malzahn is a backstabbing turd. No surprise him and freeze are such good buddies

[dawgday166]

Yes. And it's not like Florida has a bad baseball program.

Yea ... I was scratching my head on that too. Then Stans' son on basketball team too I think.

[lefty96]

Well, at the very least, thanks for the entertainment tonight ED. Nothing better than football coaching speculation threads. I eat it up every time.

If we are honest, it?s more fun than the actual games.

[OLJWales]

Yes. And it's not like Florida has a bad baseball program.

is he a player? did he have an offer from FL? Or are we just trying to land our next HC? ****

[TrapGame]

Well interestingly enough the Schiano deal has apparently fallen through there all of a sudden....on a SUNDAY.

They apparently need to learn how to play this game a little better.

Yeah, Rutgers officially passing on Schiano the same day as the word going out that Joe will not be here in 2020 no matter the EB outcome is very peculiar.

[OLJWales]

If Joe has a legit offer he needs to do us a solid and take it. I would have a tremendous amount of respect for that type of decision.

[Todd4State]

is he a player? did he have an offer from FL? Or are we just trying to land our next HC? ****

He's really fast. I don't believe he had an offer from Florida.

[Todd4State]

Yeah, Rutgers officially passing on Schiano the same day as the word going out that Joe will not be here in 2020 no matter the EB outcome is very peculiar.

It's probably not coincidental. Joe was pretty checked out during his press conference after the game.

[Todd4State]

If Joe has a legit offer he needs to do us a solid and take it. I would have a tremendous amount of respect for that type of decision.

Well it's probably better for Joe than the other option. I've definitely seen people that weren't performing be asked to find another job be a certain date if they were otherwise "good employees."

[OLJWales]

Gonna take a whole lotta cash to get Chizdik off tv. We ain't gonna do it.

And we shouldn't want to. Not even for $500K per year. Or minimum wage for that matter.

[Homedawg]

Yes. And it's not like Florida has a bad baseball program.

To be fair he's not a scholarship signee.

[dawgday166]

Yeah, Rutgers officially passing on Schiano the same day as the word going out that Joe will not be here in 2020 no matter the EB outcome is very peculiar.

Not sure why it's a shock on Sunday seeing as how stuff like this comes out on Sunday all the time but ... the timing does seem coincidental. Aw hell ... we can't be that lucky.

[Todd4State]

To be fair he's not a scholarship signee.

Isn't Florida a lottery state? Or am I mistaken?

[TrapGame]

Not sure why it's a shock on Sunday seeing as how stuff like this comes out on Sunday all the time but ... the timing does seem coincidental. Aw hell ... we can't be that lucky.

Maybe we are.

I still think this Rutgers job was always Joe's. But now we are in the endgame and everybody is showing their hands. I mean, shit, rumor is we've been looking to replace Joe since the Tennessee loss.

[PKADogs55]

I looked and saw that they had one thread going with 8 posts. Big time field day.

17, but who is counting right?

[Todd4State]

Maybe we are.

I still think this Rutgers job was always Joe's. But now we are in the endgame and everybody is showing their hands. I mean, shit, rumor is we've been looking to replace Joe since the Tennessee loss.

Honestly, I never thought it wasn't. The thing is these things can change pretty rapidly- see Dan to Tennessee and then all of a sudden Dan to Florida in a matter of days.

Actually probably not a bad thing as it also means that Cohen will move quickly too.

[Msujd164]

yeah, you?re right. We should hire the other coach that took us to #1. Dumbass.
Lol! What is that... like $1.42MM / win?? No West Championship, no Natl Championship... No thanks.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Some of you need to make up your damn mind. Y?all bitch about bracky and then bitch about Chizik. I?m in. Give me Chizik and Trooper Taylor. Let?s play the recruiting game like everyone else and fn win some gd football games.

This!!! This sums it up pretty well!!!

[Turfdawg67]

yeah, you?re right. We should hire the other coach that took us to #1. Dumbass.

That was so great for five weeks until he shit the bed again against Alabama, lost a chance for a playoff spot by laying an egg against OM and getting his ass handed to him by GA Tech. And I loved the way he capitalized on it with his stellar recruiting the following year too. You pay $10MM for Nick Saban, not a coach that was 3-29 against ranked teams and looking to get out every year.

[MaroonFlounder]

aGAIN- here is my thoughts on Hud (posted earlier today):


Hud would be the "safe" hire for us.

He is better than what we have currently
Just won Austin Peay their 1st conference title
Knows current players on our team and could convince a couple of QB's to stay put and not transfer
Will run a power spread offense because he would adapt to his talent
Has contacts all over Miss, Louisiana, and Alabama- 90% of our recruiting footprint
Good recruiter
Would not leave State for another job regardless of how much he won

It wouldn't be a sexy hire- but after this last disaster- safe aint such a bad way to go.

Hud has some NCAA baggage at ULL and a personal thing that happened that turns some people off.

[KB21]

Hud has some NCAA baggage at ULL and a personal thing that happened that turns some people off.

That didn’t stop them from bringing him back on as an assistant.

[Coach34]

Hud has some NCAA baggage at ULL and a personal thing that happened that turns some people off.

Hud marrying a UNA grad doesn't turn anybody off. The NCAA stuff wont stop him from being hired if we want him to be the guy.

[Todd4State]

Hud marrying a UNA grad doesn't turn anybody off. The NCAA stuff wont stop him from being hired if we want him to be the guy.

The NCAA cleared him. That was 100% about David Saunders and Ole Miss. And Hud couldn't bring Saunders here if he wanted to. For the next eight years anyway.

[Turfdawg67]

Yeah, Rutgers officially passing on Schiano the same day as the word going out that Joe will not be here in 2020 no matter the EB outcome is very peculiar.

It's all coming together.... mwahahaha!!

https://i.postimg.cc/59shZFNs/550-E9373-A644-42-AC-B13-B-2-E20787-DDEE8.jpg

[confucius say]

Hud marrying a UNA grad doesn't turn anybody off. The NCAA stuff wont stop him from being hired if we want him to be the guy.

It ain?t the UNA part.

That said, I dont think it is a deal breaker

[Jack Lambert]

If this is true, I'd take napier

If Moorehead sucks so bad why would you want to hire the guy Moorehead beat twice? Just curious. I keep hearing his name.

[dawgday166]

If Moorehead sucks so bad why would you want to hire the guy Moorehead beat twice? Just curious. I keep hearing his name.

LOL ... he kinda undermanned Jack at ULL. And we didn't beat them that badly this year ... and we should have.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Chizik is that hire that I wouldn't feel good about while admitting that it's completely possible that it works.

I just don't know

In no way shape or form can you say that it could work right now. The only way anyone will ever be able to say Chizik worked out here is after the fact. This has got to be total BS or we will never have a chance to win again bc of how incompetent we are. Either we dont think we can do any better or we just dont care anymore. Both are losing attitudes that will put us back in 2004 in 2020

[msstate7]

If Moorehead sucks so bad why would you want to hire the guy Moorehead beat twice? Just curious. I keep hearing his name.

Jeez

[Todd4State]

It ain?t the UNA part.

That said, I dont think it is a deal breaker

If it's what I THINK it is- it was more a deal breaker when Dan was here.

Basically the same thing that Freeze tried to do to Orgeron when they were both at Ole Miss...and what Fulmer did to Johnny Majors back in the day.

[Todd4State]

If Moorehead sucks so bad why would you want to hire the guy Moorehead beat twice? Just curious. I keep hearing his name.

It's like Barry Switzer winning the Super Bowl over the Bill Cowher led Steelers.

[Maroonthirteen]

Maybe we are.

I still think this Rutgers job was always Joe's. But now we are in the endgame and everybody is showing their hands. I mean, shit, rumor is we've been looking to replace Joe since the Tennessee loss.

I?ve felt that Moorhead to Rutgers was a very good possibility after the Finbaum interview in the junction. Moorhead handled it decently but Cohen deflected those questions as awkwardly as I have ever seen. Cohen definitely did NOT say Joe would be back that day.

[Matt3467]

It's all coming together.... mwahahaha!!

https://i.postimg.cc/59shZFNs/550-E9373-A644-42-AC-B13-B-2-E20787-DDEE8.jpg

Hey I'm famous!

[Jack Lambert]

Jeez

We can do better.

[Todd4State]

Hey I'm famous!

I hope he's right about Thursday night!

[ScottH]

The Schiano/RUtgers official breakup news tonight makes this message board speculation make sense.

Moorhead to Rutgers. Someone to MSU.

Nice amicable divorce. No lawyers. Everyone wins.

Plus Cohen and Keenum don't have to show their collective lack of sack.

[msstate7]

We can do better.

Maybe so, but we certainly can do better than who we have

[Randolph Dupree]

If it is a smokescreen it kind of makes me wonder if it's Hud. Because I know some people are against that but if MSU frames it as well.....it could have been Gene Chizik?.all of a sudden Hud doesn't look so bad.

His wouldn't have a wow factor, BUT I believe he could get the job done competently. Problem with that name is, I've decided to not renew my tickets next year and that name doesn't make me want to renew them. It's kind of like..."well I got the date with the hot girl (Mullen) and it went well, but she left. I went after the other girl everyone said I should date (Moorehead) and she was batshit crazy. I'll just just date this girl that's not all that attractive but she'll make a good wife".

My money is still on Napier for now. That name keeps coming up; more so than the others.

[Jack Lambert]

Maybe so, but we certainly can do better than who we have

It better be a sure hot ass hire.

[dawgday166]

It better be a sure hot ass hire.

It's a crap shoot dude. With any school but especially MSU. Hud and Chiz probably only 2 candidates that truly understand the obstacles and challenges faced by us in SEC W and surrounded by the schools we're surrounded by.

[Todd4State]

The Schiano/RUtgers official breakup news tonight makes this message board speculation make sense.

Moorhead to Rutgers. Someone to MSU.

Nice amicable divorce. No lawyers. Everyone wins.

Plus Cohen and Keenum don't have to show their collective lack of sack.

It makes Joe look good. And that helps with future hires honestly. Some schools rake coaches across the coals.


It's a crap shoot dude. With any school but especially MSU. Hud and Chiz probably only 2 candidates that truly understand the obstacles and challenges faced by us in SEC W and surrounded by the schools we're surrounded by.

The ONLY two? I mean, Napier coached at Alabama for a few years. Norvell goes head to head against SEC programs from time to time- especially Ole Miss.

[dawgday166]

It makes Joe look good. And that helps with future hires honestly. Some schools rake coaches across the coals.



The ONLY two? I mean, Napier coached at Alabama for a few years. Norvell goes head to head against SEC programs from time to time- especially Ole Miss.

Maybe so but ... they never had to recruit or play against Bama, or deal significantly with OM recruiting tactics, and stuff like that. Hud for sure has and AU is more similar to us relative to Bama and Ga.

[Todd4State]

Maybe so but ... they never had to recruit or play against Bama, or deal significantly with OM recruiting tactics, and stuff like that. Hud for sure has and AU is more similar to us relative to Bama and Ga.

Napier was at Bama when Freeze was at Ole Miss. And I think he was there when AJ Brown was being recruited by Bama and Ole Miss. I'm pretty sure he's familiar with their tactics.

[dawgday166]

Napier was at Bama when Freeze was at Ole Miss. And I think he was there when AJ Brown was being recruited by Bama and Ole Miss. I'm pretty sure he's familiar with their tactics.

Ok but ... do you really think recruiting at Bama gives him a good feel for recruiting at MSU? Not saying he doesn't have some understanding and he'll probably grasp the rest pretty quickly, certainly quicker than Joe has and I still don't think Joe fully understands. Napier is fine with me. He at least knows SEC and how it operates.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Ok but ... do you really think recruiting at Bama gives him a good feel for recruiting at MSU? Not saying he doesn't have some understanding and he'll probably grasp the rest pretty quickly, certainly quicker than Joe has and I still don't think Joe fully understands. Napier is fine with me. He at least knows SEC and how it operates.

Neither does recruiting at Auburn.

[dawgday166]

Neither does recruiting at Auburn.

I'll buy that ... but thought it would be closer. Also, I honestly think Chiz has learned a lot from being in the analyst's booth.

ETA: My previous post also meant to cover not only recruiting but entire scope of job.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

It's just amazing that people are so tired of Joe that they're talking themselves into Chizik not being a total disaster of a coach.

[Randolph Dupree]

It's just amazing that people are so tired of Joe that they're talking themselves into Chizik not being a total disaster of a coach.

Exactly

[dawgday166]

It's just amazing that people are so tired of Joe that they're talking themselves into Chizik not being a total disaster of a coach.

Really and truly ... I have no clue. That's why I don't engage a ton in the speculation other than to figure out what someone's resume looks like. I am leery of short resumes tho.

I believe any coach is a crapshoot .. regardless. And a lot of folks have been mega successful after big failures. Many coaches including Belichick, Vic, Howland, etc.

[Randolph Dupree]

NM

[CadaverDawg]

Lord have mercy, I jump on here for the first time in several hours and suddenly Gene F'in Chizik is being discussed? Hahahahaha

This thread is quite entertaining and I needed it. This thread is more entertaining than the rest of the JoMo tenure combined.

No chance in hell we hire Chizik. Anyone freaking out can relax. I do hope you guys are right about us parting ways with Joe even with a win Thursday....would be nice to be able to root for us on Thanksgiving.

As for the hire...this won't be a popular opinion, but I don't think Norvell would be a good fit for us. I may be wrong, but I think Hudspeth/Napier/Fritz would be better fits. While many would say we didn't shoot for a bigger name, I think ultimately we could all be fairly happy with Hudspeth or Napier, especially if Shoop stays. I started a thread earlier about Hudspeth, and I'm warming up to that hire. Any of the names being tossed around would be better than Moorhead, except maybe Chizik lol, but he ain't happening, nor should he be. Let's just hope Joe is indeed gone, and that we hire someone that brings that physicality and MSU mentality back to our program. "Soft" and MSU just don't go together, and I think at the end of the day that has been the hardest thing for most of us...seeing this guy come in and not only ruin our momentum, but dissolve our identity. Let's get him out and get back to tough, physical, conditioned, punch you in the mouth football. HailState

[Commercecomet24]

It's just amazing that people are so tired of Joe that they're talking themselves into Chizik not being a total disaster of a coach.

Yep

[Todd4State]

Ok but ... do you really think recruiting at Bama gives him a good feel for recruiting at MSU? Not saying he doesn't have some understanding and he'll probably grasp the rest pretty quickly, certainly quicker than Joe has and I still don't think Joe fully understands. Napier is fine with me. He at least knows SEC and how it operates.

I mean, it's not the same...but he has recruited against Ole Miss before. And Alabama did lose out on Tony Conner and AJ Brown so I'm sure he knows what they are capable of. That's who we primarily recruit against. I'm sure he'll keep Hughes, Peterson, and Gibson around too. They can fill him in pretty quickly if he has forgotten. The good news is Alabama beat them out for recruits from time to time as well so he likely knows how to combat it.

[Todd4State]

Lord have mercy, I jump on here for the first time in several hours and suddenly Gene F'in Chizik is being discussed? Hahahahaha

This thread is quite entertaining and I needed it. This thread is more entertaining than the rest of the JoMo tenure combined.

No chance in hell we hire Chizik. Anyone freaking out can relax. I do hope you guys are right about us parting ways with Joe even with a win Thursday....would be nice to be able to root for us on Thanksgiving.

As for the hire...this won't be a popular opinion, but I don't think Norvell would be a good fit for us. I may be wrong, but I think Hudspeth/Napier/Fritz would be better fits. While many would say we didn't shoot for a bigger name, I think ultimately we could all be fairly happy with Hudspeth or Napier, especially if Shoop stays. I started a thread earlier about Hudspeth, and I'm warming up to that hire. Any of the names being tossed around would be better than Moorhead, except maybe Chizik lol, but he ain't happening, nor should he be. Let's just hope Joe is indeed gone, and that we hire someone that brings that physicality and MSU mentality back to our program. "Soft" and MSU just don't go together, and I think at the end of the day that has been the hardest thing for most of us...seeing this guy come in and not only ruin our momentum, but dissolve our identity. Let's get him out and get back to tough, physical, conditioned, punch you in the mouth football. HailState

I threw a trident.

[bobcat91]

The beauty of a thread like this is to watch the lunies come out of the woodwork. There have been idiotic threads on this site before but this one is simply the best. I've never seen a larger pile of bullshit than this.

All from a site that was supposed to be all MSU and all for MSU. This is "The View" for State fans. Guess Coach 34 is reprising Joy Behar.

[Quaoarsking]

Note - if it's Hud, Austin Peay has a playoff game Saturday, and if they win, they may keep playing well into December.

Memphis may or may not qualify for the AAC Championship Game on December 7.

ULL has qualified for the Sun Belt Championship Game on December 7.

We might not be announcing for a while after the Egg Bowl if it's one of them.

[Bothrops]

No one knows shit right now. Possibly, not even Moorhead.

[Todd4State]

Note - if it's Hud, Austin Peay has a playoff game Saturday, and if they win, they may keep playing well into December.

Memphis may or may not qualify for the AAC Championship Game on December 7.

ULL has qualified for the Sun Belt Championship Game on December 7.

We might not be announcing for a while after the Egg Bowl if it's one of them.

Yeah. I'm thinking it will be after the championship games if it is one of them.

If it's a retread who is out of work probably close to the time of the championship games.

[RougeDawg]

I?ll say this. All parties are working together to mitigate this. Just wait until the weekend.

Eta. I always want to beat OM. A nuke of oxford would not cause me shed one tear.

[msbulldog]

Isn't Florida a lottery state? Or am I mistaken?

They have the lottery, not sure if it benefits schollys.

[ShotgunDawg]

They have the lottery, not sure if it benefits schollys.

They have Bright Futures.

Works a lot like the Hope scholly in Georgia.

[Sienfield]

Lord have mercy, I jump on here for the first time in several hours and suddenly Gene F'in Chizik is being discussed? Hahahahaha

This thread is quite entertaining and I needed it. This thread is more entertaining than the rest of the JoMo tenure combined.

No chance in hell we hire Chizik. Anyone freaking out can relax. I do hope you guys are right about us parting ways with Joe even with a win Thursday....would be nice to be able to root for us on Thanksgiving.

As for the hire...this won't be a popular opinion, but I don't think Norvell would be a good fit for us. I may be wrong, but I think Hudspeth/Napier/Fritz would be better fits. While many would say we didn't shoot for a bigger name, I think ultimately we could all be fairly happy with Hudspeth or Napier, especially if Shoop stays. I started a thread earlier about Hudspeth, and I'm warming up to that hire. Any of the names being tossed around would be better than Moorhead, except maybe Chizik lol, but he ain't happening, nor should he be. Let's just hope Joe is indeed gone, and that we hire someone that brings that physicality and MSU mentality back to our program. "Soft" and MSU just don't go together, and I think at the end of the day that has been the hardest thing for most of us...seeing this guy come in and not only ruin our momentum, but dissolve our identity. Let's get him out and get back to tough, physical, conditioned, punch you in the mouth football. HailState


This is probably the whole reason this rumor is being spread.

[Coursesuper]

It's just amazing that people are so tired of Joe that they're talking themselves into Chizik not being a total disaster of a coach.

It boggles the mind. But there seems to be a great deal of that these days.

[sandjunky]

This is probably the whole reason this rumor is being spread.

This

[shrimp]

It's just amazing that people are so tired of Joe that they're talking themselves into Chizik not being a total disaster of a coach.

LOL! I had to tell that to myself a couple of times last night.

[FISHDAWG]

I don't care if it's Chiz or the Whiz ...... anyone is an improvement when you're at the very 17'n bottom

[TheLostDawg]

Remember that post someone did last week about all the qualities of Napier? Was that possibly to get a feel or just a some really big Napier fan

[BiscuitEater]

Hearing we are making a move regardless of outcome Thursday.

Yeah .. of course .. JUST LIKE all those things you were 'hearing' about Stans replacement? Sure hope it's not another 'Rick Ray' hire.

[bulldog20]

Looks like we already have our "Rick Ray" hire coaching the team now.

[sonof34]

Hell yeah! I can pull for my team Thursday

If you were pulling for OM...continue to do so

[Ari Gold]

Everyone keep this in mind..
right now we are scheduled to have our biggest recruiting weekend scheduled for Dec 6 weekend.
Something may go down really quick after Thursday night..

I don’t think we wait around if and when the trigger is pulled on Joe.

[Bubb Rubb]

Everyone keep this in mind..
right now we are scheduled to have our biggest recruiting weekend scheduled for Dec 6 weekend.
Something may go down really quick after Thursday night..

I don’t think we wait around if and when the trigger is pulled on Joe.

If you are in the vicinity of correct, and we could replace someone as soon as the weekend, it won't be Hud, Napier, or Norvell. All those guys will still be coaching their teams.

[HailStateSZN19]

Everyone keep this in mind..
right now we are scheduled to have our biggest recruiting weekend scheduled for Dec 6 weekend.
Something may go down really quick after Thursday night..

I don’t think we wait around if and when the trigger is pulled on Joe.

Ari, is there still an “IF” scenario with this? Or is this a done deal and he’s gone Thursday night 100% regardless of the outcome? With Chiz being the smoke screen, do you believe it’s one of Napier/Norvell with Napier the more likely option? I would find it hard to believe Norvell would already give us a definite yes with FSU still open and him so interested in it.

[KB21]

If you are in the vicinity of correct, and we could replace someone as soon as the weekend, it won't be Hud, Napier, or Norvell. All those guys will still be coaching their teams.

We should know from personal experience that this is not the case. Those schools can go into the bowl game with an interim, or in Austin Peay’s case the FCS playoffs.

[Coursesuper]

If you are in the vicinity of correct, and we could replace someone as soon as the weekend, it won't be Hud, Napier, or Norvell. All those guys will still be coaching their teams.

That's not exactly true, the Gov's play the Purple Paladin's Saturday at noon. The Gov's might not get past them making one of those guys available fairly quickly. Not saying that's a reason to hire the guy. Plus if the guys want the gig they will leave and have a interim in place.

[Bubb Rubb]

We should know from personal experience that this is not the case. Those schools can go into the bowl game with an interim, or in Austin Peay’s case the FCS playoffs.

Those teams wouldn't be waiting for bowl games. Norvell likely plays in the AAC championship game the next weekend. He will definitely coach that game. It's looking more certain that Napier will have a Sunbelt Championship game, too. Hud may still be alive in the playoffs.

Coaches leave for other programs before bowl games all the time. But they don't leave during the season.

[msstate7]

Those teams wouldn't be waiting for bowl games. Norvell likely plays in the AAC championship game the next weekend. He will definitely coach that game. It's looking more certain that Napier will have a Sunbelt Championship game, too. Hud may still be alive in the playoffs.

Coaches leave for other programs before bowl games all the time. But they don't leave during the season.

You could still name him HC, right?

[Bubb Rubb]

You could still name him HC, right?

Sure, but it's sticky and virtually unprecedented. The only time I can recall it happening since the new early signing period is Scott Frost at UCF, but that was a very unique situation (they were undefeated and playing for a possible playoff spot). Even then, they were trying to keep it quiet.

[MetEdDawg]

Sure, but it's sticky and virtually unprecedented. The only time I can recall it happening is Scott Frost at UCF, but that was a very unique situation (they were undefeated and playing for a possible playoff spot).

And to make that situation worse, his move to Nebraska was probably the worst kept secret in the history of coaching searches. He's a Nebraska alumnus and everyone knew he was taking that job.

I can't imagine we name a head coach while they are still coaching at another team. There's no way in hell we would undercut another university and their ability to be successful by doing that. That's just plain wrong.

[Really Clark?]

You could still name him HC, right?

If that coach is still playing for something, not usually. Jeff Brohm and Scott Frost were the closest I can think of when they played for the conference championship and it was coming out and even discussed during the game that he had the Purdue offer. I think Frost happened before the game or day of. They both still won the championship

[dantheman4248]

3 days later and we just rehashed this thread. Can 630 tomorrow night get here already?

[I seen it dawg]

Only 2 before you did...good job

[OLJWales]

Only 2 before you did...good job

Lmao

[Tbonewannabe]

Sure, but it's sticky and virtually unprecedented. The only time I can recall it happening since the new early signing period is Scott Frost at UCF, but that was a very unique situation (they were undefeated and playing for a possible playoff spot). Even then, they were trying to keep it quiet.

One thing is the new early signing period might change how it was done in the past.

[bully14]

Told big AU fan that he was mentioned. His quote: ? better hire a very strong OC?!

[TALL DAWG]

Told big AU fan that he was mentioned. His quote: ? better hire a very strong OC?!

AND....a good S&C and Special Teams Coach...

[RocketDawg]

We should know from personal experience that this is not the case. Those schools can go into the bowl game with an interim, or in Austin Peay’s case the FCS playoffs.

How about Utah, if they somehow wound up in a Playoff game (not sure if that's mathematically possible, but a NY6 bowl is virtually guaranteed since they're ranked #6) if Whittingham comes?