2019 Recruiting Thread

[vv83]

Commit list:
https://247sports.com/college/mississippi-state/Season/2019-Football/Commits

Offers out:
https://247sports.com/college/mississippi-state/Season/2019-Football/Offers

Current Commits

https://247sports.com/Player/DJ-James-46038064

https://247sports.com/Player/Garrett-Shrader-46038605

https://247sports.com/Player/Quinton-Torbor-46041509

https://247sports.com/Player/Javeious-Purvis-46046974

https://247sports.com/player/ani-izuchukwu-88385

https://247sports.com/Player/DeMonte-Russell-46042135

https://247sports.com/Player/Brandon-Cunningham-46040542

https://247sports.com/Player/Jack-Harris-46047314

https://247sports.com/Player/Darius-Washington-46051138

https://247sports.com/Player/Jarrian-Jones-94466

https://247sports.com/Player/Kyziah-Pruitt-46035806

https://247sports.com/Player/Nathan-Pickering-46039501

https://247sports.com/Player/Martin-Emerson-Jr-46043261/

https://247sports.com/Player/LaQuinston-Sharp-46055061/

https://247sports.com/Player/Fred-Peters-46052721

https://247sports.com/Player/Brevyn-Jones-46051839/

https://247sports.com/Player/Kareem-Walker-37417/

https://247sports.com/Player/JaVonta-Payton-89967/

https://247sports.com/Player/Lee-Witherspoon-46058943/

https://247sports.com/Player/Charles-Cross-46052542/

https://247sports.com/Player/Nick-Pendley-46047636/

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Expect a few new commits in the next few weeks.

[vv83]

Expect a few new commits in the next few weeks.

Any names to throw out there yet? I'm beyond excited to see what Huff can do with a full year. Same for Fountain but oh well, hopefully this gives Peterson his shot

[5049]

Luke is going to be playing this #MississippiMade nonsense. He knows this class will make or break him. I expect them to make a hard early push, but if we look good on the field next year, we will probably still win the in-state battle. If not, it will be hard, because Ole Miss is selling playing time.

My advice is that none of us should get too up or down about early success for Ole Miss. Let the season play out, that will show the kids the reality. The MississippiMade does not even make sense for them, they represent the state about the same as the KKK. We are the ones who do that better.

Either way, we will need a minimum of 2-3 JUCO offensive linemen, and 3-4 high school offensive linemen.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Luke is going to be playing this #MississippiMade nonsense. He knows this class will make or break him. I expect them to make a hard early push, but if we look good on the field next year, we will probably still win the in-state battle. If not, it will be hard, because Ole Miss is selling playing time.

My advice is that none of us should get too up or down about early success for Ole Miss. Let the season play out, that will show the kids the reality. The MississippiMade does not even make sense for them, they represent the state about the same as the KKK. We are the ones who do that better.

We will have early MS success too. Neither side is going to dominate.

[Jack Lambert]

Luke is going to be playing this #MississippiMade nonsense. He knows this class will make or break him. I expect them to make a hard early push, but if we look good on the field next year, we will probably still win the in-state battle. If not, it will be hard, because Ole Miss is selling playing time.

Coach Jo just need to go out on the field, kick ass, get to a really bowl game and that would solve the problem.

[Commercecomet24]

Yeah I agree with IYOK, it's probably gonna be split in recruiting. Neither side will dominate.

[1bigdawg]

How can they be Mississippi Made when they only signed 3 (?) HS guys from Mississippi this year?

[Ari Gold]

Umiss are going to have ALL their chips in on Nakobe Dean.
We may have a couple guys in the boat early along with Moore that are going to be working some of these other guys to State.
I like where we are right now . And being really ****ing good this year won’t hurt. Early signing period will be huge .

[AlSwearengen]

Have a really good year on the field and get our network to counter the ole miss network with all but the most questionable of character recruits. Concede those to Olemiss. We should have more cover than just a “holy man” as the reason for our recruiting success.

[vv83]

We will have early MS success too. Neither side is going to dominate.

I know they always get theirs, but it's insane to me anyone would want to play for them... especially now that they're known as a dirty program. I was hoping to sweep the top 10 in state just to give them a big middle finger

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Is this the official one or is this one like I did last year that will get deleted?

[vv83]

Is this the official one or is this one like I did last year that will get deleted?

I'm not sure, I started the original official one in 2017 then someone else started the one last year that ended up getting stickied to the top

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I know they always get theirs, but it's insane to me anyone would want to play for them... especially now that they're known as a dirty program. I was hoping to sweep the top 10 in state just to give them a big middle finger

That's not a practical way of thinking about it though. Look at it from 16-18yr old eyes & not an adult. Especially an adult MSU fan. Just for the record when we got our penalties from Sherrill we still killed it instate so I never expected MS to just say we're boycotting OM everybody head to MSU.

[ShotgunDawg]

Hakeem Vance commits to Baylor

Is he a good player?

Seems odd for a Mississippi kid to commit early to Baylor

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Hakeem Vance commits to Baylor

Is he a good player?

Seems odd for a Mississippi kid to commit early to Baylor

Hakeem is a very solid player. If either MS school pushes I doubt he ends up there.

[BigEasyDawg]

Moore will be the next Simmons.

[vv83]

Moore will be the next Simmons.

Is he gonna play his senior year?

[BuckyIsAB****]

I heard Black may not be eligible

[Coursesuper]

This staff is also finding kids that can play not many of us know about, Brooks Rayburn is one of those. Not great numbers but the kid can play. Getsy found his video.

[Commercecomet24]

This staff is also finding kids that can play not many of us know about, Brooks Rayburn is one of those. Not great numbers but the kid can play. Getsy found his video.

I?ve heard the same. This staff has a much more comprehensive recruiting plan than the previous staff. They uncovering a lot of stones.

[Irondawg]

So who all of the top instate guys for next year appear to be most receptive to MSU?

[Dawg Tired]

This staff is also finding kids that can play not many of us know about, Brooks Rayburn is one of those. Not great numbers but the kid can play. Getsy found his video.

I saw Brooks play in the playoffs vs Brandon. He is legit. Kid has speed and great hands. Whenever Hancock needed a play he was the guy. He was the difference in the game. I?m pumped that we are looking at him.

[1bigdawg]

I will be surprised is Ole Miss does as well as us in state this coming year. First, some players and their families/coaches are going to be wary because of the recording/lawsuit issue. Second, I believe this staff will put forth "relentless" effort on the trail. Third, we have a lot of people graduating, which makes it easier to sell early playing time. Finally, they only signed 3 players from Mississippi this year. They can talk all they want about "Mississippi Made," but they have few players from Mississippi and this will hurt them when it is pointed out.

[BigEasyDawg]

Is he gonna play his senior year?

As far as I know. He tore his ACL pre-season correct? he should be good to go by summer time atleast.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

I heard Black may not be eligible

My sister used to teach him and said it will be a miracle if he has the grades.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Umiss are going to have ALL their chips in on Nakobe Dean.
We may have a couple guys in the boat early along with Moore that are going to be working some of these other guys to State.
I like where we are right now . And being really ****ing good this year won?t hurt. Early signing period will be huge .

When was the last time OM signed an elite LB? Even Patrick Willis was rated low. I think Dean is Alabama bound in a big way.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Early State leans from in-state IMO

Charles Moore
Nathan Pickering
Jarrian Jones
Diwun Black
Byron Young
De'Monte Russell
Zach Edwards and Rod Clark from Starkville
Raydarious Jones
Jon Mingo
Plumlee and Harris from Oak Grove
Kyziah Pruitt
Kenneth Jefferson - prob take 2 QB's

Don't know about Brandon Cunningham, Dannis Jackson, AJ Hopkins, Demarcus Gordon...Kobe Dean is a UM lock

[preachermatt83]

I heard Black may not be eligible

U heard right. It won't even be close.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Early State leans from in-state IMO

Charles Moore
Nathan Pickering
Jarrian Jones
Diwun Black
Byron Young
De'Monte Russell
Zach Edwards and Rod Clark from Starkville
Raydarious Jones
Jon Mingo
Plumlee and Harris from Oak Grove
Kyziah Pruitt
Kenneth Jefferson - prob take 2 QB's

Don't know about Brandon Cunningham, Dannis Jackson, AJ Hopkins, Demarcus Gordon...Kobe Dean is a UM lock

I don't think I'd call Jones, Mingo, or Jefferson MSU leans. Not that they can't end up as Dawgs but leans right now is a stretch.

[Cooterpoot]

Plumlee is probably not a lean. He's looking to play QB and baseball. I'd say Tulane is his leader right now.

[Uncle Ruckus]

What’s your deal dude? Every chance you get you hammer on this kids grades when I’m sure you don’t know a damn thing. Are you his guidance counselor? His mom? His principle. These little comments don’t do us any damn good, even if they are true. You trying to validate yourself by acting like you’re in the know Won’t do anything but hurt the situation. You’ve already shown on here that you have no idea what you’re talking about regarding recruiting, so why should this be any different? Keep your mouth shut dude

[Bully13]

I agree we need to use more caution regarding grades on the board.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

I don't think I'd call Jones, Mingo, or Jefferson MSU leans. Not that they can't end up as Dawgs but leans right now is a stretch.

Ok, that's cool. Jarrian Jones seems to absolutely loving the recruiting process...he will be a signing day decision I bet

[Ari Gold]

Plumlee is probably not a lean. He's looking to play QB and baseball. I'd say Tulane is his leader right now.

Unless that changed since Big Dawg camp. He was all in on CB

[Ari Gold]

Just throwing this out there.. it’s really early to get a good feel about the majority of the class right now and y’all can run with this 2019 thread as much as ya want . Just going to tell ya to expect this recruiting cycle to be a mother ****er.

[tcdog70]

Kyziah Pruitt is a baller--Fast and can play either side of the ball --plus a killer return Man. He was excellent against the best Teams in MS and darn good one out of LA. He doesn't drop the ball and his YAK is awesome.

[Commercecomet24]

Just throwing this out there.. it’s really early to get a good feel about the majority of the class right now and y’all can run with this 2019 thread as much as ya want . Just going to tell ya to expect this recruiting cycle to be a mother ****er.

I'm afraid you're right. I can already see the board becoming totally bipolar over recruiting the next 12 months. We really need to be patient and let it all play out. In the end we will get our share.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Plumlee is probably not a lean. He's looking to play QB and baseball. I'd say Tulane is his leader right now.

If he wants to play QB it's going to be at a Tulane or USM type school. If he wants to play in the SEC it will be at WR or CB.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

I can't wait to see what kind of quality out-of-state guys we're able to get on campus.

[Cooterpoot]

Unless that changed since Big Dawg camp. He was all in on CB

He's looking for schools that will let him play QB and baseball. He's a smart kid, and that's going to play into it some too. Not saying we won't sign him, but he's not set on us. I think he's a little caught up in the process right now.

[BuckyIsAB****]

My sister used to teach him and said it will be a miracle if he has the grades.

Youd be surprised what schools will do to get kids eligible.....its helped us in the past.

2 DL come to mind

[BuckyIsAB****]

Early State leans from in-state IMO

Charles Moore
Nathan Pickering
Jarrian Jones
Diwun Black
Byron Young
De'Monte Russell
Zach Edwards and Rod Clark from Starkville
Raydarious Jones
Jon Mingo
Plumlee and Harris from Oak Grove
Kyziah Pruitt
Kenneth Jefferson - prob take 2 QB's

Don't know about Brandon Cunningham, Dannis Jackson, AJ Hopkins, Demarcus Gordon...Kobe Dean is a UM lock

We wont get Jones from NWR or Mingo. Just telling you. I would be very surprised.

[BuckyIsAB****]

He's looking for schools that will let him play QB and baseball. He's a smart kid, and that's going to play into it some too. Not saying we won't sign him, but he's not set on us. I think he's a little caught up in the process right now.

All I know is he's a stud, one of the best pure football players I've seen. Right there with Knight from Pearl and Murphy from WP.

If he wants to play QB and baseball we should let him.

[PCHSDawg]

Don't know where he is on the "We want him" list but my son played with Jerand "Stone" Handy and is in his ear to remain a Bulldog.

[ShotgunDawg]

Don't know where he is on the "We want him" list but my son played with Jerand "Stone" Handy and is in his ear to remain a Bulldog.

Good. We need all the help we can get.

Who does Handy prefer currently?

What do you know about him?

[PCHSDawg]

My son was a senior for PC this year and ran the defense that Stone played on. Stone is big with the frame to get bigger. He's had issues with his Grandmother passing but my boy says he's straightened out now that he's staying with the basketball coach. Hard to say how much is talent and how much is his size on a 2a team.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

We wont get Jones from NWR or Mingo. Just telling you. I would be very surprised.

I think we have a legit shot at Jones. Now Mingo wants to play WR & we're recruiting him as a Safety. If OM wants to take him as a WR I'm more than fine with him going there.

[Coursesuper]

I think we have a legit shot at Jones. Now Mingo wants to play WR & we're recruiting him as a Safety. If OM wants to take him as a WR I'm more than fine with him going there.

He's not on our board as a receiver for sure.

[Cooterpoot]

My son was a senior for PC this year and ran the defense that Stone played on. Stone is big with the frame to get bigger. He's had issues with his Grandmother passing but my boy says he's straightened out now that he's staying with the basketball coach. Hard to say how much is talent and how much is his size on a 2a team.

I saw him cussing his coaches like dogs. He’s threatened to quit more than once. He was the second or third best player on his HS team because of his bad attitude. He’s raw but can really run for his size. Hopefully he gets right. He likes OM. PC had a couple kids to watch if they signed juco. The LB is a player.

[Uncle Ruckus]

The QB was a stub as well. QB/DL.

[Cooterpoot]

The QB was a stub as well. QB/DL.

Yeah, that’s him. Didn’t see where he signed but 6’3, 225 with bad intentions. Bolton kid maybe? Signed with GCCC? I hope we keep up with him. He can play.

[Cooterpoot]

Looks like we’re about to offer the Fr QB at Taylorsville.

[PCHSDawg]

As I said, my son says Stone has straightened up lately, guess we'll see next year. Don't know which LB you mean, my son played LB (#36) and hasn't had a sniff. He's all heart but at 5'8" and not stopwatch fast I don't know how to get him on a roster.

[Cooterpoot]

As I said, my son says Stone has straightened up lately, guess we'll see next year. Don't know which LB you mean, my son played LB (#36) and hasn't had a sniff. He's all heart but at 5'8" and not stopwatch fast I don't know how to get him on a roster.

I think it was Bolton that played DE maybe. PC had some decent DBs and the little RB was super nice when I talked to him.

[Uncle Ruckus]

Looks like we’re about to offer the Fr QB at Taylorsville.
I wish we would have months ago. He’s going to be a superstar. I don’t know who he’s a fan of, but I wish we could get him in the boat as early as possible because he’s going to blow up

[PSYCHO(thesis)DEFENSE]

since we're already on to class of 2021 guys, are we in on McKinnley Jackson from Lucedale? Class of 2020 & Recently decommitted from LSU.

[louisvilledawg]

What about Derick Hall? I feel like i see on twitter he picks up a new SEC/P5 offer weekly.

[Coursesuper]

One thing I’ve found out about how this staff works is with the new rules in place they will be vetting every player very closely. The new rule of not being able to over sign will change how things are done. If a player doesn’t have all his academics in order the may be slow to make an offer. That doesn’t mean they aren’t recruiting them hard it just means they are going to dot all the I’s and cross all the T’s before they make a ligit offer.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

What about Derick Hall? I feel like i see on twitter he picks up a new SEC/P5 offer weekly.

Derick Hall just jumped into the Top 247 today...another in-state rising star. ATH 6-5 210

[BuckyIsAB****]

I think we have a legit shot at Jones. Now Mingo wants to play WR & we're recruiting him as a Safety. If OM wants to take him as a WR I'm more than fine with him going there.

Hes never played a snap of safety in his life.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Hes never played a snap of safety in his life.

I know he plays CB in HS but he's a Safety on the next level.

[Cooterpoot]

I wish we would have months ago. He?s going to be a superstar. I don?t know who he?s a fan of, but I wish we could get him in the boat as early as possible because he?s going to blow up

State is his favorite school.

[Dallas_Dawg]

State is his favorite school.
This is great news!
(Freshman HS Qb at Taylorsville

[BuckyIsAB****]

I know he plays CB in HS but he's a Safety on the next level.

I dont think hes physical enough for it.

Hes a WR IMO. One of the best deep threats and is great after the catch.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I dont think hes physical enough for it.

Hes a WR IMO. One of the best deep threats and is great after the catch.

That's fine if he wants to play WR. If he does I think we will go in a different direction. JMO

[BuckyIsAB****]

That's fine if he wants to play WR. If he does I think we will go in a different direction. JMO

Why do you think that? Just curious

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Why do you think that? Just curious

I just don't see SEC WR I see SEC ATH. I think he would be best served on defense.

[vv83]

Any early names on the OL? Looking through MS kids there doesn’t seem to be much outside of the one already committed to Miami

[Ari Gold]

Any early names on the OL? Looking through MS kids there doesn’t seem to be much outside of the one already committed to Miami

well you don’t have to worry about UF being a player for Cunningham. Hevesy questioned his arm length that is why we hadn’t offered yet.
We offered as soon as the Country club left.

[Todd4State]

well you don?t have to worry about UF being a player for Cunningham. Hevesy questioned his arm length that is why we hadn?t offered yet.
We offered as soon as the Country club left.

Seriously Hev? LOL.

[craigmid]

I can't wait to see what kind of quality out-of-state guys we're able to get on campus.

Yea, I think that is the key. We will get our share (maybe more than) of in state kids. It's how we do out of state that can be a big factor.

[vv83]

well you don’t have to worry about UF being a player for Cunningham. Hevesy questioned his arm length that is why we hadn’t offered yet.
We offered as soon as the Country club left.

Do we think the Miami commitment stays or do we have a decent shot?

[Ari Gold]

Do we think the Miami commitment stays or do we have a decent shot?

No and yes .

[ShotgunDawg]

Jalen Jordan commits to OM

He any good?

[ShotgunDawg]

Jalen Jordan commits to OM

He any good?

Kid had no offers but OM and was unranked, yet upon committing to Ole Miss is ranked an 88 and the number 14 overall player in Mississippi

There’s recruiting rankings for you right there.

[Jack Lambert]

We have the number 4 recruiter in the nation on our staff. I don't care where you are from when it comes to recruiting, you either got it or you don't. That guy has it. Also if add in the staff Coach Jo put together they are going to have some really good classes.

[Cooterpoot]

Jalen Jordan commits to OM

He any good?

Trying to make inroads. Kid might be top 30 at best. He's a USM guy most years.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Jalen Jordan commits to OM

He any good?

I thought I stumbled on the wrong board for a second.....

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

We have the number 4 recruiter in the nation on our staff. I don't care where you are from when it comes to recruiting, you either got it or you don't. That guy has it. Also if add in the staff Coach Jo put together they are going to have some really good classes.

That's what I meant when I said I can't wait to see what kind of out-of-stater's Huff brings in. He fishes in the deep water...

[BuckyIsAB****]

Kid had no offers but OM and was unranked, yet upon committing to Ole Miss is ranked an 88 and the number 14 overall player in Mississippi

There?s recruiting rankings for you right there.

This makes too much sense

[Perpetual Underachiever]

That's what I meant when I said I can't wait to see what kind of out-of-stater's Huff brings in. He fishes in the deep water...


Speaking of fishing in the deep water...appears we've offered OLB Avery Huff from STA. Any insight on this offer?

https://twitter.com/Averyhuff9/status/963235434531819520

[Bothrops]

https://247sports.com/college/mississippi-state/Bolt/Alabama-Crimson-Tide-Football-Recruiting-Top100-DL-says-Alabama-is-the-perfect-school-115029095

Looks like Bama is moving in on Pickering.

[ShotgunDawg]

https://247sports.com/college/mississippi-state/Bolt/Alabama-Crimson-Tide-Football-Recruiting-Top100-DL-says-Alabama-is-the-perfect-school-115029095

Looks like Bama is moving in on Pickering.

Relax

[msbulldog]

Speaking of fishing in the deep water...appears we've offered OLB Avery Huff from STA. Any insight on this offer?

https://twitter.com/Averyhuff9/status/963235434531819520

Other offers Alabama, Louisville & Miami.

[jumbo]

Kid had no offers but OM and was unranked, yet upon committing to Ole Miss is ranked an 88 and the number 14 overall player in Mississippi

There?s recruiting rankings for you right there.



I get it. Because it's a kid that committed to OM you want there to be some conspiracy around his ranking. But the reality is this exact situation has happened on our end several times.

MSU/OM get a commit from an unranked kid. Paul/David submit their ranking request and suggesting to the national guys, they get an initial ranking usually within 24 hours.

85-88 is the wheelhouse for where these kids are usually ranked upon initial review.

[Todd4State]

I get it. Because it's a kid that committed to OM you want there to be some conspiracy around his ranking. But the reality is this exact situation has happened on our end several times.

MSU/OM get a commit from an unranked kid. Paul/David submit their ranking request and suggesting to the national guys, they get an initial ranking usually within 24 hours.

85-88 is the wheelhouse for where these kids are usually ranked upon initial review.

My problem is they consistently still rank our guys way too low and it hurts our rankings. I'm not sure how many 8-9 win seasons we have to have before they realize that we're not some flash in the pan program.

I don't know what the solution is.

[bulldawg28]

My problem is they consistently still rank our guys way too low and it hurts our rankings. I'm not sure how many 8-9 win seasons we have to have before they realize that we're not some flash in the pan program.

I don't know what the solution is.

Ignoring is the solution. Analyst recruiting opinions do not win football games. You also also win nothing by recruiting rankings. The measure is do you trust the coaches evaluation? You don't get a trophy for recruiting rankings.

[Cooterpoot]

Rankings are based on money, not talent. Plus, those guys can’t determine talent any better than the average fan. I mean, they let people like Shurbutt rank guys. It’s all a scam to get your $10+ a month. Not a lot different than that bullshit NSR recruiting crap.

[Todd4State]

Ignoring is the solution. Analyst recruiting opinions do not win football games. You also also win nothing by recruiting rankings. The measure is do you trust the coaches evaluation? You don't get a trophy for recruiting rankings.

I agree to a degree in that is how it "should be" but the fact of the matter is people like Ole Miss use the rankings to rally support even after they go 2-10 and that perception helps their program. And I guarantee you that if our rankings were good on paper it would help our perception and program too. It's just that MSU hasn't really gotten into it. Mainly because of Dan.

[ShotgunDawg]

I agree to a degree in that is how it "should be" but the fact of the matter is people like Ole Miss use the rankings to rally support even after they go 2-10 and that perception helps their program. And I guarantee you that if our rankings were good on paper it would help our perception and program too. It's just that MSU hasn't really gotten into it. Mainly because of Dan.

This

Only people that haven't paid attention or live in some college football utopia still say that recruiting rankings don't matter. They do. They build the perception & in many cases the statistical profile & define the ceiling of your program.

[MetEdDawg]

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Only people that haven't paid attention or live in some college football utopia still say that recruiting rankings don't matter. They do. They build the perception & in many cases the statistical profile & define the ceiling of your program.

Exactly. And if you go look at recruiting rankings there is absolutely a correlation to performance and rankings. I think people just like to say they don?t matter to try and justify where we have finished in the past.

Now have we overperformed against our recruiting ranking? Probably so. But the data very clearly shows that unless you are Top 10 in recruiting at least every other year with a consistent Top 15, you aren?t going to make the playoffs. We have gotten close, but more talent would help. What would happen if we pulled in a kid like Simmons every year? Can?t tell me we wouldn?t be better and have more chances to win games we typically lose. If you?ve got better players, you win more frequently plain and simple. Coaching does matter, but very rarely anymore do you see teams with a lot of talent have awful coaching. They go hand in hand more than they ever have before.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I think there's a correlation but I also think the correlation comes from the teams then rankings not the other way around. The top 50-100 kids are easy to spot they stick out like a sore thumb. After that it gets tough. Well what's the easiest way to rank them well who are the top schools offering/committing? Oh he has a legit Bama offer? Move him up if he's good enough for Saban he has to be a top prospect. Ohio St took his commitment? Move him up because Urban isn't just taking anybody. People have to remember recruiting sites are entertainment these aren't "experts". If they were they would already be on Saban staff. You're paying for entertainment not exact rankings.

[Cooterpoot]

This

Only people that haven't paid attention or live in some college football utopia still say that recruiting rankings don't matter. They do. They build the perception & in many cases the statistical profile & define the ceiling of your program.

Nah. Outside the top handful of teams, nobody knows where the rest rank in recruiting. You don't see FL or LSU beating their chests for finishing in the teens in recruiting. Recruiting rankings are fools gold. Hell, AL isn't even happy with a top 10 class. It's not the rankings that help teams. It's the marketing of those teams as a whole and the school. You get way more bump out of winning games than recruiting rankings.

[bulldawg28]

I agree to a degree in that is how it "should be" but the fact of the matter is people like Ole Miss use the rankings to rally support even after they go 2-10 and that perception helps their program. And I guarantee you that if our rankings were good on paper it would help our perception and program too. It's just that MSU hasn't really gotten into it. Mainly because of Dan.

I disagree. It's great message board discussion and highschool player ego's. Outside of that it's pointless

[Ari Gold]

2019 Early Big board coming soon. Will get up with my guys and contacts before spring ball cranks up.

[MetEdDawg]

Nah. Outside the top handful of teams, nobody knows where the rest rank in recruiting. You don't see FL or LSU beating their chests for finishing in the teens in recruiting. Recruiting rankings are fools gold. Hell, AL isn't even happy with a top 10 class. It's not the rankings that help teams. It's the marketing of those teams as a whole and the school. You get way more bump out of winning games than recruiting rankings.

True, but they go hand in hand. If you don't have the top recruits, it's virtually impossible to win on a consistent basis. You can have a couple years or in a one game setting like UCF you can beat a big time team. But consistently the best teams have the best talent and that's why they win games.

[msudawglb]

2019 Early Big board coming soon. Will get up with my guys and contacts before spring ball cranks up.

Awesome! I'm ready for this thread to get back to recruits names and rumors about said recruits. There's too much garbage being posted in this thread.

[Commercecomet24]

I think there's a correlation but I also think the correlation comes from the teams then rankings not the other way around. The top 50-100 kids are easy to spot they stick out like a sore thumb. After that it gets tough. Well what's the easiest way to rank them well who are the top schools offering/committing? Oh he has a legit Bama offer? Move him up if he's good enough for Saban he has to be a top prospect. Ohio St took his commitment? Move him up because Urban isn't just taking anybody. People have to remember recruiting sites are entertainment these aren't "experts". If they were they would already be on Saban staff. You're paying for entertainment not exact rankings.

Now this is the truth.

[Cooterpoot]

True, but they go hand in hand. If you don't have the top recruits, it's virtually impossible to win on a consistent basis. You can have a couple years or in a one game setting like UCF you can beat a big time team. But consistently the best teams have the best talent and that's why they win games.

Which is why I said outside of the top handful of teams. Because those teams are getting the top talent every year almost no matter what. And those kids could be rated by a blind man.

[bulldawg28]

Which is why I said outside of the top handful of teams. Because those teams are getting the top talent every year almost no matter what. And those kids could be rated by a blind man.

Absolutely right!

[msbulldog]

I disagree. It's great message board discussion and highschool player ego's. Outside of that it's pointless

I subscribe to 247 because those guys bring me good information about who MSU is recruiting. I generally look at who has offered these kids to determine their quality. It is a good source of this info because those guys are in it everyday. Otherwise I would have no reliable source of this information. It is well worth the $10/mo.

[Pipedream]

Here's the deal guys, recruiting rankings absolutely matter. If you can get your head out of your ass long enough to check the stats, they 100% matter. In the SEC, the team with more talent on paper wins like 80% of the time per Dave Bartoo. Nationally, in the recruiting ranking era, you can't win a national championship (nor SEC championship) if you don't have 50% or more of your teams roster made up of 4 and 5 star recruits. Not signing a top 5, 10, 15 class doesn't mean you can't be relatively good and win 7-9 games. It doesn't mean you're going to lose to every team that is more talented than you. If just means, if you have championship aspirations, you HAVE to recruit at a championship level. Here's some more info on the subject if you want to educate yourselves: https://www.footballstudyhall.com/2014/2/5/5382140/recruiting-matters-why-the-sites-get-the-rankings-right

[Jack Lambert]

Here's the deal guys, recruiting rankings absolutely matter. If you can get your head out of your ass long enough to check the stats, they 100% matter. In the SEC, the team with more talent on paper wins like 80% of the time per Dave Bartoo. Nationally, in the recruiting ranking era, you can't win a national championship (nor SEC championship) if you don't have 50% or more of your teams roster made up of 4 and 5 star recruits. Not signing a top 5, 10, 15 class doesn't mean you can't be relatively good and win 7-9 games. It doesn't mean you're going to lose to every team that is more talented than you. If just means, if you have championship aspirations, you HAVE to recruit at a championship level. Here's some more info on the subject if you want to educate yourselves: https://www.footballstudyhall.com/2014/2/5/5382140/recruiting-matters-why-the-sites-get-the-rankings-right

Where people have problems for example at the end of the day on signing day BAMA was number nine. Then the next morning they were number seven. The total number of recruits stayed the same. It just made me think that these recruiting service recalculate and do what they need to in order to make the larger group of followers happy.

Also Tenn, Florida and A&M have up to this year have been in the top 8 and you see what they got them.

[vv83]

Where people have problems for example at the end of the day on signing day BAMA was number nine. Then the next morning they were number seven. The total number of recruits stayed the same. It just made me think that these recruiting service recalculate and do what they need to in order to make the larger group of followers happy.

Also Tenn, Florida and A&M have up to this year have been in the top 8 and you see what they got them.

Well obviously you need a combination of good coaching and facilities to go with the recruiting rankings. I don't think the argument is that all programs who rank top 8 in recruiting will be top 8 football programs, but to win a natty you must be top 10 recruiting.

[msstate7]

Here's the deal guys, recruiting rankings absolutely matter. If you can get your head out of your ass long enough to check the stats, they 100% matter. In the SEC, the team with more talent on paper wins like 80% of the time per Dave Bartoo. Nationally, in the recruiting ranking era, you can't win a national championship (nor SEC championship) if you don't have 50% or more of your teams roster made up of 4 and 5 star recruits. Not signing a top 5, 10, 15 class doesn't mean you can't be relatively good and win 7-9 games. It doesn't mean you're going to lose to every team that is more talented than you. If just means, if you have championship aspirations, you HAVE to recruit at a championship level. Here's some more info on the subject if you want to educate yourselves: https://www.footballstudyhall.com/2014/2/5/5382140/recruiting-matters-why-the-sites-get-the-rankings-right

It would be interesting if someone had the recruit rankings for each championship team before each player committed and post. I certainly believe you have to have great players to win championships, but I think the recruiting sites adjust player ratings after the original rating. Ie ... If player A is getting recruited to bama, he gets a bump. By doing this, the sites help themselves with the above info you stated. With that said, I want to get as many 4 and 5 stars as we can get

ETA... the last 12 natties breakdown like this: 5 by saban, 3 by urban, 1 by miles, 1 by chizik, 1 by jimbo, and 1 by dabo. Whoever broke down the info in your post, could have just said if you want a natty hire urban or saban.

[jumbo]

247 used to have a graph on a players profile that would track their rankings

[TUSK]

I dunno if recruiting services cater to select programs... and I dunno if players outside top ~200 are accurately rated...

But, I do know this:

A. These are the most successful SEC teams:
1) Alabama
2) LSU
3) UGA
4) Auburn
5) Florida

and,

B. These are the most successful SEC teams:
1) Alabama
2) LSU
3) UGA
4) Florida
5) Auburn

note: Data is based on Regular Season SEC wins and Average 247 Recruiting Ranking years 2015-2017


Bonus Fact: Mizzou and Vandy recruited the worst, and won the least.

[msstate7]

I dunno if recruiting services cater to select programs... and I dunno if players outside top ~200 are accurately rated...

But, I do know this:

A. These are the most successful SEC teams:
1) Alabama
2) LSU
3) UGA
4) Auburn
5) Florida

and,

B. These are the most successful SEC teams:
1) Alabama
2) LSU
3) UGA
4) Florida
5) Auburn

note: Data is based on Regular Season SEC wins and Average 247 Recruiting Ranking years 2015-2017


Bonus Fact: Mizzou and Vandy recruited the worst, and won the least.

Florida has 23 (10, 9, 4) wins from 2015-2017. State has 24 (9, 6, 9) from 2015-2017. Georgia won more games than LSU during that period

[TUSK]

Florida has 23 (10, 9, 4) wins from 2015-2017. State has 24 (9, 6, 9) from 2015-2017. Georgia won more games than LSU during that period

Win totals were based on SEC Competition, only.... It's not statistically reliable if OOC games are included, IMO...

I do appreciate fact checking me, though... Thanks!

[msstate7]

Kinda surprised by OM recruiting so far. I really thought they would be going all in again, but so far it does not appear to be the case. They have 8 commits with the highest rated most certainly going mlb and 5 commits with no other sec offers. Throw out ealy (doubtful they get him anyway) and their avg per recruit is .8602.

[vv83]

Kinda surprised by OM recruiting so far. I really thought they would be going all in again, but so far it does not appear to be the case. They have 8 commits with the highest rated most certainly going mlb and 5 commits with no other sec offers. Throw out ealy (doubtful they get him anyway) and their avg per recruit is .8602.

They have plenty of time

[msstate7]

They have plenty of time

Yes, they do. Just surprised they are filling up so quickly with players that are not highly rated. Players could be outstanding for all I know, but not really OM style

[Commercecomet24]

Yes, they do. Just surprised they are filling up so quickly with players that are not highly rated. Players could be outstanding for all I know, but not really OM style

Matt Luke cleaning up the program*********

[msbulldog]

Yes, they do. Just surprised they are filling up so quickly with players that are not highly rated. Players could be outstanding for all I know, but not really OM style

They don't mind dumping them if better comes along.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

They don't mind dumping them if better comes along.

They're not about to dump a bunch of instate kids.

[msbulldog]

Betcha IYOK.

[sandwolf]

I really thought they would be going all in again, but so far it does not appear to be the case.

They cannot just go back to doing business as usual. Getting caught again in the repeat offender window would be a disaster.

[msbulldog]

They cannot just go back to doing business as usual. Getting caught again in the repeat offender window would be a disaster.

I don't think that will stop them.

[vv83]

From the other thread, 4* Donte Starks is visiting this week

https://247sports.com/Player/Donte-Starks-45573479

[Homedawg]

They cannot just go back to doing business as usual. Getting caught again in the repeat offender window would be a disaster.

Hahahahahah. Why? They only got caught payin leo. The rest was petty stuff. They are back on full bore. Don't kid yourself

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Just a FYI but there are 3 4* OL on campus for Jr day right now. Not saying we pull 1 or 3 but you pull 0 when you can't get them to campus.

https://247sports.com/player/pierce-quick-46037143

https://247sports.com/player/keiondre-jones-83780

https://247sports.com/player/ej-ndoma-ogar-88233

This kid visited yesterday

https://247sports.com/player/adrian-medley-92032

[Bdawg]

Just a FYI but there are 3 4* OL on campus for Jr day right now. Not saying we pull 1 or 3 but you pull 0 when you can't get them to campus.

https://247sports.com/player/pierce-quick-46037143

https://247sports.com/player/keiondre-jones-83780

https://247sports.com/player/ej-ndoma-ogar-88233

This kid visited yesterday

https://247sports.com/player/adrian-medley-92032

Very nice to see but not sure bout wasting time on an AL commit from AL. Sure hope we pick it up in this area of recruiting though.

[MetEdDawg]

Very nice to see but not sure bout wasting time on an AL commit from AL. Sure hope we pick it up in this area of recruiting though.

If we can get an in at Hewitt Trussville we should do it. They have been full of talent the last couple of years and will continue to be. Pierce Quick would be a huge get and even though I don’t expect to get him, it’s nothing but positives having a kid like that on campus. We need to continue having kids like that on campus.

[msstate7]

Very nice to see but not sure bout wasting time on an AL commit from AL. Sure hope we pick it up in this area of recruiting though.

Yeah, unless bama drops him, we are not getting that kid

[Irondawg]

so back to stuff other than baseball - how do we feel about how Jr. Day went?

[Ari Gold]

so back to stuff other than baseball - how do we feel about how Jr. Day went?

It went better than planned.
And that?s not just ?coach speak? from what I was told.

I’m really looking forward to laying my eyes on the big board for 2019..

[sandwolf]

Hahahahahah. Why? They only got caught payin leo. The rest was petty stuff. They are back on full bore. Don't kid yourself

I know that we like to act like they got slapped on the wrist (and they did from a scholarship standpoint), but between the cloud of the investigation, losing Freeze, diminished fan support/donations/attendance, the cost of defending themselves, the 2 year bowl ban and all of the less sexy sanctions, it was a huge blow to their football program. If they were to get caught again, inside the repeat violator window, it would be disastrous. I'm not saying they won't cut any corners, but they absolutely will tone it way down for the next few years.

[vv83]

I know that we like to act like they got slapped on the wrist (and they did from a scholarship standpoint), but between the cloud of the investigation, losing Freeze, diminished fan support/donations/attendance, the cost of defending themselves, the 2 year bowl ban and all of the less sexy sanctions, it was a huge blow to their football program. If they were to get caught again, inside the repeat violator window, it would be disastrous. I'm not saying they won't cut any corners, but they absolutely will tone it way down for the next few years.

I disagree with everything except for the repeat violator part. I don't think they slow down at all. Hopefully they get hit harder on the repeat status

[Ari Gold]

I disagree with everything except for the repeat violator part. I don't think they slow down at all. Hopefully they get hit harder on the repeat status

They won’t pull back , but that place got exposed. It’s not the place they protray it to be and more and more kids. parents and coaches are seeing that.

And losing Freeze was a huge blow. No matter what anyone says Matt Luke isn’t a SEC calibure head guy.

[msbulldog]

I know that we like to act like they got slapped on the wrist (and they did from a scholarship standpoint), but between the cloud of the investigation, losing Freeze, diminished fan support/donations/attendance, the cost of defending themselves, the 2 year bowl ban and all of the less sexy sanctions, it was a huge blow to their football program. If they were to get caught again, inside the repeat violator window, it would be disastrous. I'm not saying they won't cut any corners, but they absolutely will tone it way down for the next few years.

I don't know if you are a Beverly Hillbilly, but the loss of 8M in bowl revenue and 2-3M in legal fees is a major hit to me! The unofficial visit restriction (if it can be enforced) is a major handicap as all other schools can offer unlimited visits. Time on campuses is an important recruiting tool.

[Todd4State]

I disagree with everything except for the repeat violator part. I don't think they slow down at all. Hopefully they get hit harder on the repeat status

Look at their last two classes. Even this year they tried to do what they do at the end and they pretty much whiffed and finished below Dan Mullen.

At that was with a super recruit 4 star QB inflating their rating a lot.

[Todd4State]

It went better than planned.
And that?s not just ?coach speak? from what I was told.

I’m really looking forward to laying my eyes on the big board for 2019..

I am too. They have me thinking that our recruiting ceiling may be way higher than I realized.

[Dawgology]

I don't know if you are a Beverly Hillbilly, but the loss of 8M in bowl revenue and 2-3M in legal fees is a major hit to me! The unofficial visit restriction (if it can be enforced) is a major handicap as all other schools can offer unlimited visits. Time on campuses is an important recruiting tool.

Don’t they get that money at the end of their suspension though?

[Johnson85]

I know that we like to act like they got slapped on the wrist (and they did from a scholarship standpoint), but between the cloud of the investigation, losing Freeze, diminished fan support/donations/attendance, the cost of defending themselves, the 2 year bowl ban and all of the less sexy sanctions, it was a huge blow to their football program. If they were to get caught again, inside the repeat violator window, it would be disastrous. I'm not saying they won't cut any corners, but they absolutely will tone it way down for the next few years.

They got hit, but there is nothing hindering them going forward other than maybe potential coaches being scared of recruiting under extra scrutiny that may or may not be present.

But Ole Miss is going to push forward with recruiting the way they always have instate. They will probably continue out of state too except when they are going head to head against a blue blood. So they may not be pulling recruits away from Bama or UGA, but they will make sure they are doing what it takes to get the recruits who are 26-35 on their boards, which if they have any coaching will be enough to ensure they stay relevant.

[Johnson85]

Montravius Richardson? That name sounds familiar. Is that somebody we were recruiting out of high school? Or does he just sound like the RB under Mullen that ended up transferring out?

[msstate7]

Montravius Richardson? That name sounds familiar. Is that somebody we were recruiting out of high school? Or does he just sound like the RB under Mullen that ended up transferring out?

We signed him, but he did not qualify

[vv83]

Montravius Richardson? That name sounds familiar. Is that somebody we were recruiting out of high school? Or does he just sound like the RB under Mullen that ended up transferring out?

OL that went JUCO. Think he was from the 2017 class

[msstate7]

Was Richardson rated low bc he was a longshot to qualify?

[msbulldog]

Don’t they get that money at the end of their suspension though?

That's why I said only 8M. They get 2 years @ 8M/year (if they lose the appeal) or 16M, at the end of probation they get 50% back, but they lose the other 50%. At least that's how it used to work.

[Dawgology]

That's why I said only 8M. They get 2 years @ 8M/year (if they lose the appeal) or 16M, at the end of probation they get 50% back, but they lose the other 50%. At least that's how it used to work.

Ok i see now. That makes sense.

[BrunswickDawg]

Was Richardson rated low bc he was a longshot to qualify?
He was a long shot.
He's the OL from the 2017 class that didn't qualify. From Albany, GA. Red shirted at Gulf Coast or ICC maybe?? But, transferred to Georgia Military College back in January. GMC probably a better fit. Good to see everyone sticking by him though. He looked good when I saw him in the state playoffs in '16.

[msbulldog]

He was a long shot.
He's the OL from the 2017 class that didn't qualify. From Albany, GA. Red shirted at Gulf Coast or ICC maybe?? But, transferred to Georgia Military College back in January. GMC probably a better fit. Good to see everyone sticking by him though. He looked good when I saw him in the state playoffs in '16.

We certainly could use him.

[Johnson85]

We certainly could use him.

So will he have 4 years? Or did enrolling in judo start his 5 year clock or whatever it is.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Richardson is a 2019 commit.

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

So will he have 4 years? Or did enrolling in judo start his 5 year clock or whatever it is.

He redshirted at Miss. Delta last year. Will play this fall at Ga. Military. He will have 3 to play 3.

[2shortbabyimsohard...]

Hello everyone! First time caller...long time listener...with that said, my guess is he will have 3 to play 3 but enrolling in judo just means he's a bad ass and likes martial arts! I kid I kid

[msstate7]

Hello everyone! First time caller...long time listener...with that said, my guess is he will have 3 to play 3 but enrolling in judo just means he's a bad ass and likes martial arts! I kid I kid

Too $hort, huh? That pretty old school there

[Johnson85]

He redshirted at Miss. Delta last year. Will play this fall at Ga. Military. He will have 3 to play 3.

Anybody know the story about him enrolling in Miss. Delta and then going prep? If he wasn't eligible when he signed, will he be eligible in 2019? Seems like he should have gutted it out at Miss. Delta, been assured of eligibility, and had 3 to play two when he got to campus in 2019. Was he just miserable (which I could understand being in Moorhead) or did something happen?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Anybody know the story about him enrolling in Miss. Delta and then going prep? If he wasn't eligible when he signed, will he be eligible in 2019? Seems like he should have gutted it out at Miss. Delta, been assured of eligibility, and had 3 to play two when he got to campus in 2019. Was he just miserable (which I could understand being in Moorhead) or did something happen?

Georgia Military is a Juco not prep school.

[Johnson85]

Georgia Military is a Juco not prep school.

That makes more sense. Thanks.

[2shortbabyimsohard...]

Too $hort, huh? That pretty old school there

Yep, Im kinda like a former baseball coach of ours..pimpin these hoes on the boulevard

[BuckyIsAB****]

DJ James CB from FL just committed. T Buck coming thru again

[Ifyouonlyknew]

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/5369338/

https://247sports.com/Player/DJ-James-46038064

[Ifyouonlyknew]

DJ James CB from FL just committed. T Buck coming thru again

From Alabama

[preachermatt83]

DJ James CB from FL just committed. T Buck coming thru again

He's legit

[Bothrops]

Nice get at a position of need.

[BuckyIsAB****]

From Alabama

My bad homie

[Todd4State]

From Alabama

Florabama (almost)

[Commercecomet24]

DJ James CB from FL just committed. T Buck coming thru again

Another good pickup. Our staff doing work on the recruiting trail!

[msbulldog]

Florabama (almost)

Nah just the other side of Mobile Bay, to to FloraBama you got to go all the way to Perdido! LOL!

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Do you guys think coach Jones helped with this guy? I know nothing about it, except that this is the kind of player from the kind of place he'd have been recruiting while at USA. Wouldn't surprise me if they had a relationship and it helped pull James our way, and I'm sure Jones has been hitting the phones of every recruit he knows in south Alabama

[msbulldog]

We have had potential recruits from Spanish Fort for years before, James was being recruited before Coach Jones came on board, he was offered on 2/12/18.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Do you guys think coach Jones helped with this guy? I know nothing about it, except that this is the kind of player from the kind of place he'd have been recruiting while at USA. Wouldn't surprise me if they had a relationship and it helped pull James our way, and I'm sure Jones has been hitting the phones of every recruit he knows in south Alabama

Had nothing to do with Joey Jones. All TBuck & JoeMo.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

K thanks for the answer guys. I'm excited to see Jones go to work on those south 'bama guys though- 8 years of relationship building with those HS coaches should really help us there

[Ari Gold]

Great pick up. Kid should be and will end up higher rated.

I asked my guy how many of the top 15 guys in Mississippi that we are on hard and have a legit shot of getting.
The answer was 10.

[Bully13]

Another good pickup. Our staff doing work on the recruiting trail!

yep, 247 has him with an offer from FL with him 100% crystal balled to AU.

[msbulldog]

yep, 247 has him with an offer from FL with him 100% crystal balled to AU.

Get used to Florida being on our recruits for the next year or two.

[Goldendawg]

Get used to Florida being on our recruits for the next year or two.

If Dan and the Country Club in Fl come after high 3's and 4's in Ms and at that same time are losing 4's and 5's in Fl to Miami, FSU, Ga,& bama the honeymoon with the Fl fan base will be very short!

[msbulldog]

If Dan and the Country Club in Fl come after high 3's and 4's in Ms and at that same time are losing 4's and 5's in Fl to Miami, FSU, Ga,& bama the honeymoon with the Fl fan base will be very short!

Yep!

[Bully13]

as long as Muffins and / or Hev do the in house, we good.

[Todd4State]

Great pick up. Kid should be and will end up higher rated.

I asked my guy how many of the top 15 guys in Mississippi that we are on hard and have a legit shot of getting.
The answer was 10.

I'm assuming Jerrion Ealy is one of the 15 and is going pro in baseball in all likelihood. I'll take 10 of the top 14.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I'm assuming Jerrion Ealy is one of the 15 and is going pro in baseball in all likelihood. I'll take 10 of the top 14.

I will too.

We shouldnt just concede any of them tho. Those days are over

[Cooterpoot]

Dean and Handy(if he's top 15) aren't like to end up at State. Turnage either, but more likely than the other two.

[Ari Gold]

Read what I was told and said again.
Out of the top 15 guys that we are ON hard and have Legit shot at getting..

I said it few weeks back chances very low we get Dean and he isn’t a lock to Umiss by a long shot. With Ealy is going MLB more than likely.
I like our chances with Turnage and more so with Pickering .. those will be 2 big time pick ups.
With Handy , we prob aren’t in his top 2 but the DL class is loaded we can’t get them all... and it’s just now March
Let’s roll thru spring ball and a few camps along with BDC and see what’s up then

[Cooterpoot]

I'm expecting to get Pickering. In the end, he's a MS guy and we're his number one in MS. I know he's talking a little about AL and LSU, but in the end he's coming to State. His friends are saying the same thing.
I'm not expecting to get Young.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Read what I was told and said again.
Out of the top 15 guys that we are ON hard and have Legit shot at getting..

I said it few weeks back chances very low we get Dean and he isn’t a lock to Umiss by a long shot. With Ealy is going MLB more than likely.
I like our chances with Turnage and more so with Pickering .. those will be 2 big time pick ups.
With Handy , we prob aren’t in his top 2 but the DL class is loaded we can’t get them all... and it’s just now March
Let’s roll thru spring ball and a few camps along with BDC and see what’s up then

So we're more likely to get Turnage (Bama commit) than Dean who is uncommitted??

Thats gotta be a first

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

We've been active with Crystal Ball's lately...see anyone committing soon? We are offering tons of guys and I love it!

[Commercecomet24]

We've been active with Crystal Ball's lately...see anyone committing soon? We are offering tons of guys and I love it!

I like it too! New Sheriff in town, New Era for football program.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

I like it too! New Sheriff in town, New Era for football program.

That what is most exciting. It's so different than the previous ten years.

[Commercecomet24]

That what is most exciting. It's so different than the previous ten years.

Amen to that. This staff is turning over some stones. Love the work ethic on the recruiting trail.

[Bdawg]

Believe I saw on twitter a DL names Handy from MS committed to LSU. Did we feel we had a decent shot at him? How big a loss?

[Ari Gold]

Believe I saw on twitter a DL names Handy from MS committed to LSU. Did we feel we had a decent shot at him? How big a loss?

Bigger loss for ole miss ..

[msstate7]

Poster on sps says Charles Moore could be going with handy to lsu

[bostondawg]

Zach Edwards just committed to LSU.

[Ari Gold]

Everyone chill.
We will be ok

[msstate7]

Lsu looking to be Mississippi made. If Moore does flip...

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Zach Edwards just committed to LSU.

Not worried

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Lsu looking to be Mississippi made. If Moore does flip...

He's not

[msstate7]

He's not

Good, and good on your previous post too

[ShotgunDawg]

Not worried

I believe you, but why did these kids commit to LSU?

What’s the draw?

[shrimp]

I believe you, but why did these kids commit to LSU?

What’s the draw?

Have you ever been down there? One of my best friends from HS went to LSU. I went to visit him my freshman year at State. I almost transferred to LSU after that weekend! That is a really fun place for an 18 year old!

[bulldawg28]

Have you ever been down there? One of my best friends from HS went to LSU. I went to visit him my freshman year at State. I almost transferred to LSU after that weekend! That is a really fun place for an 18 year old!

This

[VandelayIndustries]

I believe you, but why did these kids commit to LSU?

What?s the draw?

It's an NFL factory as well, they put players in the league. Good to hear IYOK is not worried though

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I believe you, but why did these kids commit to LSU?

What’s the draw?

What's the draw to LSU? It's 1 of the most well-known football schools in the country. I'm aware they haven't won anything in a few years but the LSU name still carries weight.

This recruiting cycle will be the most intense wild roller coaster ride of a class ever so it won't be for the faint of heart. Get off before the ride starts if you're an emotional person concerning recruiting. Not directed at Shotgun but anyone because I've been on here during peak recruiting season. The whole cycle will be like that. Adjust & plan accordingly.

[bulldawg28]

What's the draw to LSU? It's 1 of the most well-known football schools in the country. I'm aware they haven't won anything in a few years but the LSU name still carries weight.

This recruiting cycle will be the most intense wild roller coaster ride of a class ever so it won't be for the faint of heart. Get off before the ride starts if you're an emotional person concerning recruiting. Not directed at Shotgun but anyone because I've been on here during peak recruiting season. The whole cycle will be like that. Adjust & plan accordingly.

You know he's not getting off. These guys love to freak out! Maybe they'll pass out along the way and wake up in February .

[Ari Gold]

What's the draw to LSU? It's 1 of the most well-known football schools in the country. I'm aware they haven't won anything in a few years but the LSU name still carries weight.

This recruiting cycle will be the most intense wild roller coaster ride of a class ever so it won't be for the faint of heart. Get off before the ride starts if you're an emotional person concerning recruiting. Not directed at Shotgun but anyone because I've been on here during peak recruiting season. The whole cycle will be like that. Adjust & plan accordingly.

Yeah last year will be baby shit compaepred to this year..

[Todd4State]

Yeah last year will be baby shit compaepred to this year..

Last year wasn't bad- other than maybe Cole Smith. I think the fact that we have a competent staff recruiting for us now rather than the lazy relentless effort country club it will make things a lot better for us in terms of freaking out.

[Commercecomet24]

What's the draw to LSU? It's 1 of the most well-known football schools in the country. I'm aware they haven't won anything in a few years but the LSU name still carries weight.

This recruiting cycle will be the most intense wild roller coaster ride of a class ever so it won't be for the faint of heart. Get off before the ride starts if you're an emotional person concerning recruiting. Not directed at Shotgun but anyone because I've been on here during peak recruiting season. The whole cycle will be like that. Adjust & plan accordingly.

Nail on head.

[Bothrops]

Not worried

You don't think he sticks, correct?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

You don't think he sticks, correct?

No I don't

[yjnkdawg]

Everyone chill.
We will be ok



Some on this board have no idea what the word "chill" means? They hear some piece of info on something, and then they freak out, or want attention, and here they go with the meltdown mood. It's so pathetic, it's actually funny sometimes.

[msstate7]

Some on this board have no idea what the word "chill" means? They hear some piece of info on something, and then they freak out, or want attention, and here they go with the meltdown mood. It's so pathetic, it's actually funny sometimes.

What melt are you referring to? No one melted at all over Edwards. Hell, calling a melt over no melt is a melt.

[Turfdawg67]

FunnuY that he didn't mention any names but you chimed in... ha! Oh he prob referring to Pruitt owning Moorhead, Arkansas taking whomever they want from State, LSU will be Mississippi Made. (paraphrasing of course).

[msstate7]

FunnuY that he didn't mention any names but you chimed in... ha! Oh he prob referring to Pruitt owning Moorhead, Arkansas taking whomever they want from State, LSU will be Mississippi Made. (paraphrasing of course).

Well if you are gonna quote me, quote me right... I said LSU LOOKING to be Mississippi made. I would say LSU had a damn good weekend with Mississippi players, no? Does everything in this thread have to 100% posi? On braves boards, I get called a posi-brave, but this thread is straight up posi-state to the 1000th power. If you question anything at all, you are labeled as anti-Moorhead and such.

[maroonmania]

What melt are you referring to? No one melted at all over Edwards. Hell, calling a melt over no melt is a melt.

On this board I've come to realize that if you aren't sunshine and roses all the time over any negative news its a "melt". Wish we would ban the word.

[CadaverDawg]

What's the draw to LSU? It's 1 of the most well-known football schools in the country. I'm aware they haven't won anything in a few years but the LSU name still carries weight.

This recruiting cycle will be the most intense wild roller coaster ride of a class ever so it won't be for the faint of heart. Get off before the ride starts if you're an emotional person concerning recruiting. Not directed at Shotgun but anyone because I've been on here during peak recruiting season. The whole cycle will be like that. Adjust & plan accordingly.

Yeah, I’m gonna have to go ahead and get off the ride now.

[msstate7]

Yeah, I’m gonna have to go ahead and get off the ride now.

Nah, bring on 10 months of Chris jones like drama haha

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Yeah, I’m gonna have to go ahead and get off the ride now.

I applaud you being honest about it.

[CadaverDawg]

I applaud you being honest about it.

Lol, I have to. Glad you guys do what you do though.

[Bothrops]

Negative people are people too..

[vv83]

So, what's up with Black? Just looking for attention after all the LSU stuff this week?

[BuckyIsAB****]

WRs arent a need for this class. DL and OL is. Its also March 5. Black will still be around come next Feb even if he gets qualifed. I hope he does

[Ifyouonlyknew]

WRs arent a need for this class. DL and OL is. Its also March 5. Black will still be around come next Feb even if he gets qualifed. I hope he does

WR #'s aren't a huge need but 3 good WR this class is definitely a need. Can't hit on this past class & come behind it with mediocrity.

[Ari Gold]

We are Looking at Black as a LB or Safety.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Did I miss the meltdown on Charles Moore getting CB's to LSU or has it not reached here yet?

[msstate7]

Did I miss the meltdown on Charles Moore getting CB's to LSU or has it not reached here yet?

I saw the OM guys doing it, but now I see the LSU guys also. I almost expect it to happen to be honest

[RezDog7]

I saw the OM guys doing it, but now I see the LSU guys also. I almost expect it to happen to be honest

I bet you expect a zombie apocalypse too don’t you?

[msstate7]

I bet you expect a zombie apocalypse too don’t you?

I hope it is the slow zombies of TWD, not the fast ones of WWZ

[Tripp McNeely]

I saw the OM guys doing it, but now I see the LSU guys also. I almost expect it to happen to be honest

He just visited BR last weekend, but the most likely “insider info” in these particular CB instances is, “Why in the hell wud he go play in Starkganistan when he cud pley in Deth Valeh???” ****

[msstate7]

He just visited BR last weekend, but the most likely “insider info” in these particular CB instances is, “Why in the hell wud he go play in Starkganistan when he cud pley in Deth Valeh???” ****

Yeah, I have no idea what is going on with the kid. I did not even worry when it was the OM guys, but the LSU guys waited till Moore was home. To me that is a little concerning.

[msbulldog]

You boys chill!

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Charles will sign with MSU

[Todd4State]

I'll say it again- if we sign 10 of the top 15 in Mississippi we will dominate the state and I will be very happy. And I believe we will.

[msstate7]

Charles will sign with MSU

Glad you feel that way

[state66]

https://mobile.twitter.com/charlesmoore_11/status/970840839294541834

[RezDog7]

I hope it is the slow zombies of TWD, not the fast ones of WWZ

I agree. Don?t need no 5 star zombies in the apocalypse. Give me MSU signee zombies all day.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I saw the OM guys doing it, but now I see the LSU guys also. I almost expect it to happen to be honest

Its march. If it makes you feel better he tweeted saying he is a dawg.

[msstate7]

Its march. If it makes you feel better he tweeted saying he is a dawg.

It does. He is a pretty important recruit

[Commercecomet24]

Sounds like some of y?all need to get the number of yancys Xanax supplier lol

[Todd4State]

https://mobile.twitter.com/charlesmoore_11/status/970840839294541834

And there you go.

He's only probably the best player in the state- he's a four star because of his injury and because the evaluators are biased idiots that pander to their audience and the squeaky wheels. And with Dan gone I wouldn't put it past Joe to pull some surprises and land our highest rated team since the Sherrill days.

Also, if this is Tony Hughes last year at Jackson State we need to find a way to add him to our staff in some capacity off the field.

[Todd4State]

Sounds like some of y?all need to get the number of yancys Xanax supplier lol

It sounds like it's going to be a roller coaster ride. But I think we'll pleasantly surprised in the end. Dan did well around camp time- in January he was awful. Which was a major reason why he was and is the biggest proponent of the early signing period. With Dan still around, Lovett is probably at Ole Miss.

[msstate7]

Any news on Noah elliss?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Any news on Noah elliss?

That ship has sailed

[Commercecomet24]

It sounds like it's going to be a roller coaster ride. But I think we'll pleasantly surprised in the end. Dan did well around camp time- in January he was awful. Which was a major reason why he was and is the biggest proponent of the early signing period. With Dan still around, Lovett is probably at Ole Miss.

I agree.

[ElectroDawg]

Who is Hev recruiting in the Golden Triangle area? He is on my flight back to Columbus.

[msstate7]

Who is Hev recruiting in the Golden Triangle area? He is on my flight back to Columbus.

Ask him. Edwards, probably

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Who is Hev recruiting in the Golden Triangle area? He is on my flight back to Columbus.

Family still may be living here. Spring break is coming up. Could be getting everything together to finally move or just coming to get them so they can spend spring break in Florida.

[Ari Gold]

Who is Hev recruiting in the Golden Triangle area? He is on my flight back to Columbus.

It doesn’t matter..

[msstate7]

It doesn’t matter..

Lol

[sandwolf]

Family still may be living here. Spring break is coming up. Could be getting everything together to finally move or just coming to get them so they can spend spring break in Florida.
Hevesy putting effort into a vacation sounds much more plausible than Hevesy putting effort into recruiting.

[Cooterpoot]

Who is Hev recruiting in the Golden Triangle area? He is on my flight back to Columbus.

1* 432 lb, Juco OL in Shuqualak- Developmental project that needs a redshirt.

[CadaverDawg]

Who is Hev recruiting in the Golden Triangle area? He is on my flight back to Columbus.

A 3 Star Florida legacy OL that he has zero reason not to sign, but will ultimately fail to.

[Bully13]

If we have fears of asshole jerks like muffins and hevesy, we got issues.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Why hasn't Kyziah Pruitt committed yet?

[Ari Gold]

Why hasn't Kyziah Pruitt committed yet?

Because it’s March.. he will be a Dawg..

[3rdGen]

Because it?s March.. he will be a Dawg..

This guy never lets me down with his common sense posting. Always like hearing from Ari.

[preachermatt83]

Word from Starkville is we had an amazing weekend and made some huge impacts with uncommitted guys and guys committed elsewhere.

[Bothrops]

Because it’s March.. he will be a Dawg..

Is it true that Pruitt had consecutive 1000 yard receiving seasons?

[Bully13]

Word from Starkville is we had an amazing weekend and made some huge impacts with uncommitted guys and guys committed elsewhere.

any names Preach?