2018 Recruiting Thread

[Commercecomet24]

Again look at who we have signed and kept..
the number one players in the state at 5 or 6 positions and the number one Juco Wr in the country
We lost our HC and over half the staff. And didn’t lose but a few guys .

Keep bringing us the news, Ari. I appreciate your info. Recruiting has been and always will be fluid. You can know a recruit and their family personally for years and they do something totally unexpected. I knew a kid and his family for years they were big fans of a school and while uncommited told me he was gonna sign with them on signing day. On signing day he wound up going halfway across the country to another school. You just never know in the recruiting game. All you can do is go with what current info you have. I certainly never fault anyone on here or anywhere when they miss on a guy. It happens. Keep bringing the news for us.

[Turfdawg67]

Lovett? If so, are we or Florida the favorite?

He recently stated in an interview that we were still his favorite.

[Johnson85]

Again look at who we have signed and kept..
the number one players in the state at 5 or 6 positions and the number one Juco Wr in the country
We lost our HC and over half the staff. And didn?t lose but a few guys .

Looking at just getting quality guys, this class is going to be solid even ignoring the staff change and really good considering the almost complete staff turnover.

But looking at needs, it looks like we are going to have a glaring hole at OL, which is going to require some combination of a really good class next year and hitting on some JUCO guys.

[Turfdawg67]

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Dolla Bill got his 4th star from Rivals and State got the top 4 in MS.

[Commercecomet24]

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Dolla Bill got his 4th star from Rivals and State got the top 4 in MS.

He earned it. Should?ve been 4 Star all along.Now if they would just give Murphy and Mayden their 4th star

[ATTILLA THE DOG]

Doche post... if you don?t like my info I bring dont ****ing read it..
oh btw who told you Whop.??

The hunter kid on Paul's Page called it before anybody did

[msbulldog]

Yeah, I like our recruiting guys to predict, so I never criticize them for being wrong.

Here is my prediction for our finish... we take 1, 2, 3 on the chin

Damn 7, do you figure the sky is going to fall on your head when you walk out in the morning?

[Commercecomet24]

Damn 7, do you figure the sky is going to fall on your head when you walk out in the morning?

Rep given!

[Ari Gold]

The hunter kid on Paul's Page called it before anybody did

Maybe 24/7 should pay him and use his crystal ball then... he must have some Ari Gold type intel. Hopefully he posts over here. We could use a few more good posters.

[msbulldog]

I was under the impression that recruiting is a fluid process, as in things can change. Nothing is concrete until the ink dries. Don't knock guys for relaying what they are hearing. I thought that was why we're on this board. To share information

Damn, that's a novel idea! Rep Given +1

[msbulldog]

I said things would change daily... if Fla doesn?t offer McDowell there is no issue. And it is Hev and Mullen so it?s not a slam dunk yet. If he flips it?s because it?s Florida.
I will trade Mason for Brule. Same type player and still think land Eddie . The Boot 6 would be strong.
The longer it goes better our chances are for Winkle IMO
And Lovett isn?t a lock to UM.

Rather have Brule, strengthens our presence in south LA, where there are a lot of excellent athletes.
McDowell is a good Georgia boy that grew up hating the Florida gators, every largest cocktail party day. I going out on a limb to say that if it comes down to MSU and UF, the Georgia boy will choose us.
Winkle is ours, Ari, Momma, Daddy and little brothers can go to games in about 2 hours and get free tickets... Good post Ari!

[ATTILLA THE DOG]

Maybe 24/7 should pay him and use his crystal ball then... he must have some Ari Gold type intel. Hopefully he posts over here. We could use a few more good posters.

he is a msu student that is friends with kt and some other players

[Ari Gold]

he is a msu student that is friends with kt and some other players

That’s soild Intel ..

[msbulldog]

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Dolla Bill got his 4th star from Rivals and State got the top 4 in MS.

Bless his heart, he is burying his Mother this weekend. I cannot imagine in my life at 17 or 18 to lose my Momma. I lost my Momma 3 years ago and I was 59, Lord that was hard.
All Ya'll praying Bulldog Brothers out there, say a little prayer for Dolla Bill and his family and loved ones.

[Commercecomet24]

Bless his heart, he is burying his Mother this weekend. I cannot imagine in my life at 17 or 18 to lose my Momma. I lost my Momma 3 years ago and I was 59, Lord that was hard.
All Ya'll praying Bulldog Brothers out there, say a little prayer for Dolla Bill and his family and loved ones.

Praying for him and his family! Can?t imagine how hard this is for that young man.

[HoopsDawg]

Again look at who we have signed and kept..
the number one players in the state at 5 or 6 positions and the number one Juco Wr in the country
We lost our HC and over half the staff. And didn?t lose but a few guys .

If we end up signing Lovett and Eddie Smith I will feel really good about this class.

[BrunswickDawg]

Damn 7, do you figure the sky is going to fall on your head when you walk out in the morning?

MSU induced PTSD

[msstate7]

Damn 7, do you figure the sky is going to fall on your head when you walk out in the morning?

The 3 punches to the chin I called are McDowell, Lovett, and winkel. Hope I am wrong

[Bothrops]

The way I see it

McDowell - to Florida
Brule - to State
Lovett - to State
Winkel - to Tennessee
Kameron Jones ??
Smith - State/Bama....50/50 - Saban might rather put a screw on us, like he usually does this time of year.

[Bully13]

Bless his heart, he is burying his Mother this weekend. I cannot imagine in my life at 17 or 18 to lose my Momma. I lost my Momma 3 years ago and I was 59, Lord that was hard.
All Ya'll praying Bulldog Brothers out there, say a little prayer for Dolla Bill and his family and loved ones.

I'm 55 and sill have my mama. I'm blessed. Im gonna do some praying for dolla and give thanks to God today.

[Bully13]

Would be nice if MSU nation could get a flower deal going. Hopefully mojo can be there.

[Cooterpoot]

The way I see it

McDowell - to Florida
Brule - to State
Lovett - to State
Winkel - to Tennessee
Kameron Jones ??
Smith - State/Bama....50/50 - Saban might rather put a screw on us, like he usually does this time of year.

We'll get Brule, Winkel (still don't think the TN offer is legit), Jones if we go that route, & Smith.

[Commercecomet24]

We'll get Brule, Winkel (still don't think the TN offer is legit), Jones if we go that route, & Smith.

That would be a pretty good finish.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

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Dolla Bill got his 4th star from Rivals and State got the top 4 in MS.

I am amazed that people still look at Rivals. I forgot it even existed.

[Commercecomet24]

I am amazed that people still look at Rivals. I forgot it even existed.

Same here. I haven't looked at rivals in years. Only look at 24/7, they seem to be the most accurate. espn sucks at recruiting evals too.

[Ari Gold]

Any recruiting site that doesn’t have Marcus Murphy at least a 4 Star should close up shop.

[Commercecomet24]

Any recruiting site that doesn’t have Marcus Murphy at least a 4 Star should close up shop.

Thank you! Murphy and Mayden should both be 4 stars, but 100% without a doubt Marcus should be. I don't understand why he's not.

[Turfdawg67]

I am amazed that people still look at Rivals. I forgot it even existed.

It popped up on my Twitter feed and I shared it because of Dolla Bill's 4th star. Sue me...

[Ari Gold]

How we close as of 1/26.
Watson
Patterson (jC)
Winkel
Brule and Smith ( Boot 6)
Lovett
Heard a couple of possible late names but no need to throw them out here now. And Jones isn’t one of them

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

It popped up on my Twitter feed and I shared it because of Dolla Bill's 4th star. Sue me...

sensitive are we?....I just made a statement, I wasn't attacking you.

[Commercecomet24]

It popped up on my Twitter feed and I shared it because of Dolla Bill's 4th star. Sue me...

That was good news though, cause it gave him a bump to 4 star on the 247 composite. We need good news this time of year.

[Commercecomet24]

How we close as of 1/26.
Watson
Patterson (jC)
Winkel
Brule and Smith ( Boot 6)
Lovett
Heard a couple of possible late names but no need to throw them out here now. And Jones isn’t one of them

If we get those plus who we got in December, I would say Coach JoMo did a freaking bang up job.

Another HS OL would be nice but these would be a great finishing kick.

[bulldawg28]

How we close as of 1/26.
Watson
Patterson (jC)
Winkel
Brule and Smith ( Boot 6)
Lovett
Heard a couple of possible late names but no need to throw them out here now. And Jones isn’t one of them

Who is Patterson?

[msstate7]

How we close as of 1/26.
Watson
Patterson (jC)
Winkel
Brule and Smith ( Boot 6)
Lovett
Heard a couple of possible late names but no need to throw them out here now. And Jones isn’t one of them

That would be a very nice finish

[msstate7]

Who is Patterson?

Pearl WR

[HoopsDawg]

That would be a very nice finish

Yes, that's pretty much the ideal finish at this point. Funny on McDowell how Mullen offered every MSU commit he wanted the day he was hired but didn't offer McDowell until this week.

[bulldawg28]

Pearl WR

Cool

[msstate7]

Yes, that's pretty much the ideal finish at this point. Funny on McDowell how Mullen offered every MSU commit he wanted the day he was hired but didn't offer McDowell until this week.

Read on SPS that the state of Florida has 2 top 10 olinemen still uncommitted... Mullen raiding our low 3* haha

[MetEdDawg]

Read on SPS that the state of Florida has 2 top 10 olinemen still uncommitted... Mullen raiding our low 3* haha

He shouldn't be a low 3 star though. He's probably a high 3 or a low 4. I really wish we had been able to sign him on early signing day.

[HoopsDawg]

He shouldn't be a low 3 star though. He's probably a high 3 or a low 4. I really wish we had been able to sign him on early signing day.

I don't agree with your statement. Still like to have him b/c we need some bodies.

[Irondawg]

The point is that Mullen/Hev slow played him and didn't think he was worth going after out of the gate. Hopefully we can sell that and that our new staff immediately believed in him and kept his offer.

We will see though. Can't say I'm optimistic because apparently he likes Hev

[BuckyIsAB****]

Pearl WR

Who wont be here for another 2 years at leasst

[HancockCountyDog]

I don't agree with your statement. Still like to have him b/c we need some bodies.

Bottom line on the OL misses, we can't have any misses on the roster. Guys like Moon, Phillips, Suggs, Parker and Champion need to become serviceable OL, because at least one will be a penciled in starter headed into spring, and we will need good backups. Next year we will be fine, but after graduation we will have the following players go through spring ball:

Stewart Reese
Darryl Williams
Greg Eiland
Dareuan Parker
Michael Story
Harrison Moon
Tommy Champion
Tyre Phillips
Dollar Bill

Next year is critical - we will need to sign at least 5 HS OL and probably 2 JUCO's for depth. I still expect us to sign at least one more HS OL, maybe 2 even if they are developmental guys, we really just need the bodies. I expect that to be our biggest priority next recruiting cycle.

[shrimp]

Moon transferred to UT Chat


Bottom line on the OL misses, we can't have any misses on the roster. Guys like Moon, Phillips, Suggs, Parker and Champion need to become serviceable OL, because at least one will be a penciled in starter headed into spring, and we will need good backups. Next year we will be fine, but after graduation we will have the following players go through spring ball:

Stewart Reese
Darryl Williams
Greg Eiland
Dareuan Parker
Michael Story
Harrison Moon
Tommy Champion
Tyre Phillips
Dollar Bill

Next year is critical - we will need to sign at least 5 HS OL and probably 2 JUCO's for depth. I still expect us to sign at least one more HS OL, maybe 2 even if they are developmental guys, we really just need the bodies. I expect that to be our biggest priority next recruiting cycle.

[Ari Gold]

I’m sure Spirit will be reporting Lovett won’t be visiting here this weekend..
hey douche bags .. Wanna bet .???

[NCDawg]

The point is that Mullen/Hev slow played him and didn't think he was worth going after out of the gate. Hopefully we can sell that and that our new staff immediately believed in him and kept his offer.

We will see though. Can't say I'm optimistic because apparently he likes Hev

"Apparently he likes Hev"? If he does, he will be the first OL that I've heard of that does. We lost a lot of good prospective OL because of that guy.

[HoopsDawg]

"Apparently he likes Hev"? If he does, he will be the first OL that I've heard of that does. We lost a lot of good prospective OL because of that guy.

Bleich liked him. Joey Trapp probably liked him.

[Cooterpoot]

"Apparently he likes Hev"? If he does, he will be the first OL that I've heard of that does. We lost a lot of good prospective OL because of that guy.

He's impressed with all the OL Hev has in the NFL.*

[Todd4State]

"Apparently he likes Hev"? If he does, he will be the first OL that I've heard of that does. We lost a lot of good prospective OL because of that guy.

Hevesy is a lot cooler when you don't have any other offers.

[HancockCountyDog]

Moon transferred to UT Chat

I forgot that. Just used roster from MSU website, so yeah, we need some of these guys to pan out.

[NCDawg]

Bleich liked him. Joey Trapp probably liked him.

Yeah, Joey Trapp-how could I forget him. Hev had to go all the way to California to grab him out of a JC. Very valuable addition to our OL.

[Bully13]

Yeah, Joey Trapp-how could I forget him. Hev had to go all the way to California to grab him out of a JC. Very valuable addition to our OL.

you forgot the ***. lol ... I won't miss Hev, 17 him.

[preachermatt83]

Who is the Crawford kid that committed... whoever he is seems to be really close to Eddie smith. So that's good news.

[Ari Gold]

Don’t you just Lov-et when when Football recruits troll douche bags. What’s going to be the spin Spirit?

[SmokeyDawg]

Thank you! Murphy and Mayden should both be 4 stars, but 100% without a doubt Marcus should be. I don't understand why he's not.

Mayden gets his 4th star on 24/7 composite.

[preachermatt83]

Don’t you just Lov-et when when Football recruits troll douche bags. What’s going to be the spin Spirit?

If we end up with Lovett I'm gonna be really impressed with this staff.

[Turfdawg67]

Mayden gets his 4th star on 24/7 composite.

Awesome! What site is holding Murphy back? Everyone says he should be a 4 star too.

[Ari Gold]

Awesome! What site is holding Murphy back? Everyone says he should be a 4 star too.

He is borderline 5.. it’s absurd. People will see soon enough

[Turfdawg67]

Who is the Crawford kid that committed... whoever he is seems to be really close to Eddie smith. So that's good news.

Garrett Crawford... 2-3 star DE. Might be a package deal to secure Smith. Eddie Smith was at Garrett's house when MSU coaches visited yesterday.

[Commercecomet24]

Mayden gets his 4th star on 24/7 composite.

Thanks for sharing that! Well deserved! Kid is legit 4 Star! Now Marcus deserves his. Being completely honest Murphy should be our highest rated recruit. I don?t get it! Who did he piss off? Glad these kids are starting to get some more recognition!

[Commercecomet24]

He is borderline 5.. it’s absurd. People will see soon enough

No doubt he should be our highest rated recruit.

[SmokeyDawg]

Awesome! What site is holding Murphy back? Everyone says he should be a 4 star too.

Rivals and Espn. 247 has him as a 4star and top 300. Murphy is going to be a beast, all they have to do is hit play on his highlight tape and it?s a no doubter. Did notice rivals has Spivey as a 4.

[Goldendawg]

I'm 62 and still got my 80 year old Bulldawg Momma that follows all MSU sports. Praying for Dolla Bill and his family.

[Goldendawg]

Not exactly a star watcher, but with several of our guys finally being correctly ranked, we should pass several teams now ahead of us for a top 25 finish if we finish how y'all predict. It is good PR for any school. Now with 6 4's and Murphy is overdue for a 4. Hail State! THANKS to you guys in the know that update this thread!

[Commercecomet24]

Rivals and Espn. 247 has him as a 4star and top 300. Murphy is going to be a beast, all they have to do is hit play on his highlight tape and it?s a no doubter. Did notice rivals has Spivey as a 4.

Figures the 2 worst recruiting sights screwing it up.

[MetEdDawg]

Figures the 2 worst recruiting sights screwing it up.

To let you know how bad it is, espn has him ranked as the 10th best player in the state behind Jaquan Webb, who is committed to Marshall, and Jemaurian Jones. Maybe even worse is the fact they have Crumedy 11th in the state. Both of them are 3 stars on ESPN.

Take a look at how bad this MS state ranking is: http://www.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/playerrankings/_/state/mississippi/class/2018/view/state

[Bdawg]

To let you know how bad it is, espn has him ranked as the 10th best player in the state behind Jaquan Webb, who is committed to Marshall, and Jemaurian Jones. Maybe even worse is the fact they have Crumedy 11th in the state. Both of them are 3 stars on ESPN.

Take a look at how bad this MS state ranking is: http://www.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/playerrankings/_/state/mississippi/class/2018/view/state

Isn’t that a 6A player of the year at #22 also? Man that list looks bad!!

[Commercecomet24]

To let you know how bad it is, espn has him ranked as the 10th best player in the state behind Jaquan Webb, who is committed to Marshall, and Jemaurian Jones. Maybe even worse is the fact they have Crumedy 11th in the state. Both of them are 3 stars on ESPN.

Take a look at how bad this MS state ranking is: http://www.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/playerrankings/_/state/mississippi/class/2018/view/state

Man that?s just awful! That?s the first time I?ve looked at Espn recruiting in years. I quit looking cause it sucked so bad. Looks like they?re getting worse. It?s like they put zero effort into rating these kids unless it?s for one of the blue bloods.

[BuckyIsAB****]

To let you know how bad it is, espn has him ranked as the 10th best player in the state behind Jaquan Webb, who is committed to Marshall, and Jemaurian Jones. Maybe even worse is the fact they have Crumedy 11th in the state. Both of them are 3 stars on ESPN.

Take a look at how bad this MS state ranking is: http://www.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/playerrankings/_/state/mississippi/class/2018/view/state

That DL from Brookhaven is nowhere close to a 4 star player.

Overweight and lazy doesnt make a 4 star player. That CB from Brookhaven is pretty good wish we would have gone after him more. Franklin from HBurg disappeared against M. Murphy and West Point when they played. Thats a questionable list for sure, the callaway kid at a 4 star, the WR from Oxford arent nearly as good as they have them either

[Homedawg]

As I said to preacher, watching espn football recruiting rankings is an utter waste of time. What a joke

[Goldendawg]

As I said to preacher, watching espn football recruiting rankings is an utter wasted of time. What a joke

Watching ESPN period is a total waste of time, period. I used to watch a lot of their programming, especially Sportscenter. Most of their new style sports shows now are too many "hosts, sports journalists" who see who can interrupt and yell at each other the most. Easy to see why they are laying off workers and losing $. I no longer watch.

[Commercecomet24]

Watching ESPN period is a total waste of time, period. I used to watch a lot of their programming, especially Sportscenter. Most of their new style sports shows now are too many "hosts, sports journalists" who see who can interrupt and yell at each other the most. Easy to see why they are laying off workers and losing $. I no longer watch.

This. I used to just leave my
Tv on Espn all the time in the 80s and 90s. Now the only time I ever watch it is for live games. The programming sucks.

[msstate7]

Has brule visited or planning on visiting?

[Goldendawg]

This. I used to just leave my
Tv on Espn all the time in the 80s and 90s. Now the only time I ever watch it is for live games. The programming sucks.

Agree 100%. I was the same way.

[Commercecomet24]

Agree 100%. I was the same way.

Man those were the days! Just sports or people talking about sports. I miss those days!

[Goldendawg]

Man those were the days! Just sports or people talking about sports. I miss those days!

Yeah, couldn't wait to catch the latest scores and highlights on SportsCenter. The instant access on info from the internet has made that type programming obsolete. Now just so called experts who really don't add much.

[Commercecomet24]

Yeah, couldn't wait to catch the latest scores and highlights on SportsCenter. The instant access on info from the internet has made that type programming obsolete. Now just so called experts who really don't add much.

Yep, getting nostalgic lol

[sscjr1]

Has brule visited or planning on visiting?

Next weekend

[yjnkdawg]

Figures the 2 worst recruiting sights screwing it up.


I don't know why 247 has to have that composite rating. Just use their own. I don't think ESPN ever has been able to properly or correctly evaluate players and the Rivals bunch is pretty much off and on.

[bostondawg]

From Lovett on twitter. Anyone who says he's an OM lock is a fool.


https://snag.gy/PwUHcs.jpg

[Commercecomet24]

I don't know why 247 has to have that composite rating. Just use their own. I don't think ESPN ever has been able to properly or correctly evaluate players and the Rivals bunch is pretty much off and on.

Bingo! Agree with everything you said!

[Todd4State]

From Lovett on twitter. Anyone who says he's an OM lock is a fool.


https://snag.gy/PwUHcs.jpg

Did that guy seriously put CJ Johnson in the same sentence with Chris Jones and Jeffrey Simmons? LOL. Two are in the NFL. One is hanging out with Lane Kiffen or beating the bush on the Mississippi JUCO circuit.

[Bully13]

Not understanding the Lovett tweet. Thought tsun had him locked down.

[bulldawg28]

Did that guy seriously put CJ Johnson in the same sentence with Chris Jones and Jeffrey Simmons? LOL. Two are in the NFL. One is hanging out with Lane Kiffen or beating the bush on the Mississippi JUCO circuit.

Speaking of CJ Johnson have you seen pics of him lately. He looks bad as in ill.

[msstate7]

Looking at bama recruiting page, looks like they currently have 2 CB commits. They have 3 5-Star guys, a high 4-star, and smith on prospect list. According to CBs, they are not the favorite for any of them. What you guys say is the % smith gets an Alabama offer?

[bulldawg28]

Looking at bama recruiting page, looks like they currently have 2 CB commits. They have 3 5-Star guys, a high 4-star, and smith on prospect list. According to CBs, they are not the favorite for any of them. What you guys say is the % smith gets an Alabama offer?

According to what you posted he's the last man on the totem pole. They'll string him along in the event they don't get the number of corners they want then go after him. Saban will play it up until signing day too. If they get the guys they want Smith will never hear from Saban again. He's that ruthless.

[ShotgunDawg]

According to what you posted he's the last man on the totem pole. They'll string him along in the event they don't get the number of corners they want then go after him. Saban will play it up until signing day too. If they get the guys they want Smith will never hear from Saban again. He's that ruthless.

It’s absurd that Bama can do this in recruiting.

When one team has this type of power and control over recruiting, the rest of us are literally just playing for second place.

[BuckyIsAB****]

According to what you posted he's the last man on the totem pole. They'll string him along in the event they don't get the number of corners they want then go after him. Saban will play it up until signing day too. If they get the guys they want Smith will never hear from Saban again. He's that ruthless.

And everybody here would do the same thing if you were in his situation, if you were smart.

This isnt a nice business no need to talk to the kid after signing day. Dont be a hugh freeze

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Speaking of CJ Johnson have you seen pics of him lately. He looks bad as in ill.

No he's fine. He's just a normal weight & not trying to pack all that weight on to play DE in the SEC.

[bulldawg28]

No he's fine. He's just a normal weight & not trying to pack all that weight on to play DE in the SEC.

Cool. You can tell he's lost weight after playing. I'm accustomed to that. He looks funny

[bulldawg28]

And everybody here would do the same thing if you were in his situation, if you were smart.

This isnt a nice business no need to talk to the kid after signing day. Dont be a hugh freeze

I know how recruiting goes. Take your sermon elsewhere Sherlock. I was referring to if they got the commits they wanted today Saban would totally ignore this kid with no explanation at all after stringing him along.

[Bothrops]

Figures the 2 worst recruiting sights screwing it up.

ESPN and Rivals still have a recruit listed that hasn't been in the class in months. ESPN is the worst though with their top MS rankings.

[NCDawg]

It’s absurd that Bama can do this in recruiting.

When one team has this type of power and control over recruiting, the rest of us are literally just playing for second place.

You've got to give Saban credit. Apparently he doesn't cheat-at least nobody says he does or caught him at it. Like he told Mal Moore when he hired him, "you may not have hired the best football coach, but nobody will beat me recruiting." He apparently works his tail off recruiting. Alabama wasn't nearly this successful before Saban arrived on the scene. I knew we were in trouble when he was hired. It's all Rich Rodriquez fault for not taking the job when they offered it to him.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I know how recruiting goes. Take your sermon elsewhere Sherlock. I was referring to if they got the commits they wanted today Saban would totally ignore this kid with no explanation at all after stringing him along.

Fight me then

[ShotgunDawg]

You've got to give Saban credit. Apparently he doesn't cheat-at least nobody says he does or caught him at it. Like he told Mal Moore when he hired him, "you may not have hired the best football coach, but nobody will beat me recruiting." He apparently works his tail off recruiting. Alabama wasn't nearly this successful before Saban arrived on the scene. I knew we were in trouble when he was hired. It's all Rich Rodriquez fault for not taking the job when they offered it to him.

I’ve given him so much credit that my cup runneth empty of any more credit to give

[Irondawg]

He does what it takes to get elite players like everyone else. I think there was something on Bleacher Report it SDS or something showing recruits over the past 5 years or so with their instagram pics of their new rides.

He did what he needed to do to get the talent back up and then when he won you had the rings to help so you played the game but didn?t go overboard.

But to start he knew you win big mostly by having better players than your opponent.

OM tried basically the same strategy but just went a little too far with it. If you can do it and not get caught the plan works.

You never know how things would have worked out but what if we had gotten Cam or enticed AJ to stay around and there were probably a few other impact guys we might have had a shot over the years. Mullen was just conservative with it and for the most part we?ve still been pretty good.

[MetEdDawg]

He does what it takes to get elite players like everyone else. I think there was something on Bleacher Report it SDS or something showing recruits over the past 5 years or so with their instagram pics of their new rides.

He did what he needed to do to get the talent back up and then when he won you had the rings to help so you played the game but didn?t go overboard.

But to start he knew you win big mostly by having better players than your opponent.

OM tried basically the same strategy but just went a little too far with it. If you can do it and not get caught the plan works.

You never know how things would have worked out but what if we had gotten Cam or enticed AJ to stay around and there were probably a few other impact guys we might have had a shot over the years. Mullen was just conservative with it and for the most part we?ve still been pretty good.

I think having AJ would have made an astronomical difference to our team. Would have opened us up a lot more and changed our effectiveness in the pass game entirely.

But in the end, it all comes down to secondary play. That’s the reason we lose to big teams. Until we are able to recruit the back end of our defense better, we will remain a max 8-10 win team. We have recruited the front 7 about as well as could be expected. But ultimately we lose because we can’t stop teams consistently through the air. You can point to numerous times in our 4 losses where our secondary lost the big battles.

Offense is usually not going to be our issue. We’ve proven that even with the worst WR core in the conference that we can go out and win 9 games in a year where we played the two teams in the national title game. But if we are truly going to be elite, we have to add to what we are doing in recruiting by going all in to shore up our secondary.

That’s why I feel Eddie Smith is potentially the most important recruit in this class.

[bulldawg28]

Fight me then

Anytime

[BuckyIsAB****]

Anytime

Grow up**

[Todd4State]

I think having AJ would have made an astronomical difference to our team. Would have opened us up a lot more and changed our effectiveness in the pass game entirely.

But in the end, it all comes down to secondary play. That’s the reason we lose to big teams. Until we are able to recruit the back end of our defense better, we will remain a max 8-10 win team. We have recruited the front 7 about as well as could be expected. But ultimately we lose because we can’t stop teams consistently through the air. You can point to numerous times in our 4 losses where our secondary lost the big battles.

Offense is usually not going to be our issue. We’ve proven that even with the worst WR core in the conference that we can go out and win 9 games in a year where we played the two teams in the national title game. But if we are truly going to be elite, we have to add to what we are doing in recruiting by going all in to shore up our secondary.

That’s why I feel Eddie Smith is potentially the most important recruit in this class.

AJ, Cam, and Jaylen Smith all would have been huge for us this year. Lashley, Charles, and Womack would have helped our offensive line as well. We've had way too many misses on the offensive side of the ball.

Our problem is we can't get over the hump against elite SEC teams. I think a lot of it is because when we play those teams we lack explosiveness on the offensive side in terms of playmakers. We were no threat to stretch Alabama vertically. Had we done that we would have run the ball even better than we did against them.

[NCDawg]

I see a lot of people mentioning Eddie Smith as a prospective DB for us. Wondering if this is the same Eddie Smith that shows Nick Saban dancing on his facebook page and shows him (Smith) in a TN Vols uniform. I don't see where he even mentions us. It appears he used to be committed to TCU.

[msstate7]

I see a lot of people mentioning Eddie Smith as a prospective DB for us. Wondering if this is the same Eddie Smith that shows Nick Saban dancing on his facebook page and shows him (Smith) in a TN Vols uniform. I don't see where he even mentions us. It appears he used to be committed to TCU.

Does seem weird no one has CB him to us... not even our recruiting guys

[Turfdawg67]

I see a lot of people mentioning Eddie Smith as a prospective DB for us. Wondering if this is the same Eddie Smith that shows Nick Saban dancing on his facebook page and shows him (Smith) in a TN Vols uniform. I don't see where he even mentions us. It appears he used to be committed to TCU.

Said the same thing a couple pages back and was told “crystal balls” don’t mean everything. But my point was that we don’t even seem to be on his radar. But if he signs with UA or UT, our melt will still be epic!

[BuckyIsAB****]

I see a lot of people mentioning Eddie Smith as a prospective DB for us. Wondering if this is the same Eddie Smith that shows Nick Saban dancing on his facebook page and shows him (Smith) in a TN Vols uniform. I don't see where he even mentions us. It appears he used to be committed to TCU.

He put up a picture with him and TBuck, Lukabu and a few other coaches the other day on twitter. We are in the game

[preachermatt83]

I still don't see us getting smith. He's tenn or Bama bound. If we do get him by some miracle then u can go ahead and mark it down that this staff is gonna recruit lights out.

[msstate7]

Now that the weekend is over, what is the board feeling on smith, winkel, Lovett, brule, and McDowell?

[msstate7]

Winkel with 2 CBs to Arkansas after his visit this weekend. McDowell CBs left-and-right to Florida. Should we try to get Hamilton hall in for a visit this weekend?

[Ari Gold]

Not that it’s a shocker. Look for McDowell decommit and commit to Fla
Have a replace McDowell in play. Once I get confirmation I will post.

[msstate7]

Have a replace McDowell in play.

This is exactly what I want to hear.

[Commercecomet24]

Not that it’s a shocker. Look for McDowell decommit and commit to Fla
Have a replace McDowell in play. Once I get confirmation I will post.

That?s good to hear.

[maroonmania]

This is exactly what I want to hear.

Finding a replacement is not hard task, finding one that can play in the SEC at this late date is a hard task. Hopefully we can find another Elgton Jenkins type laying in the weeds out there somewhere.

[SmokeyDawg]

Is there another Elgton Jenkins out there? I would take that rating drop any day.

[Cooterpoot]

We get Smith if Bama doesn?t give a legit offer. They haven?t yet.
Winkel is on the fence at best.
McDowell is gone.
Lovett is looking more Simmons than CJ now.
New OL is a long shot.

17 you Mullen!

[SmokeyDawg]

Finding a replacement is not hard task, finding one that can play in the SEC at this late date is a hard task. Hopefully we can find another Elgton Jenkins type laying in the weeks out there somewhere.

Beat me to the name drop. There are plenty of guys with the profile, offers, and tape similar to Jenkins. Need to find the one with the biggest chip on his shoulder

[msstate7]

We get Smith if Bama doesn?t give a legit offer. They haven?t yet.
Winkel is on the fence at best.
McDowell is gone.
Lovett is looking more Simmons than CJ now.
New OL is a long shot.

17 you Mullen!

If we miss on winkel and new oline, it will be a bitter pill to swallow.

[Coursesuper]

Not that it’s a shocker. Look for McDowell decommit and commit to Fla
Have a replace McDowell in play. Once I get confirmation I will post.

Lineman from Starkville is a good player.

[maroonmania]

If we miss on winkel and new oline, it will be a bitter pill to swallow.

I will just say if MJ comes in here and can't pull Winkel or McDowell or any other P5 OL prospect then him being a former OM player will not be the only reason he will be on my bad side.

[Ari Gold]

Finding a replacement is not hard task, finding one that can play in the SEC at this late date is a hard task. Hopefully we can find another Elgton Jenkins type laying in the weeds out there somewhere.

It’s an upgrade.. on paper anyway .

[Ifyouonlyknew]

The McDowell replacement is a big upgrade. Need to pull Winkel or find another OT.

ETA: Paul has already put it out its Tyrone Sampson. 4* Army AA from Michigan.

[I seen it dawg]

Lovett to State

[msstate7]

The McDowell replacement is a big upgrade. Need to pull Winkel or find another OT.

ETA: Paul has already put it out its Tyrone Sampson. 4* Army AA from Michigan.

He gonna visit this weekend?

[msstate7]

Lovett to State

Good. We need him

[Commercecomet24]

The McDowell replacement is a big upgrade. Need to pull Winkel or find another OT.

ETA: Paul has already put it out its Tyrone Sampson. 4* Army AA from Michigan.

Would?nt that be something! What are the chances of landing Sampson? Good stuff!

[ShotgunDawg]

It?s an upgrade.. on paper anyway .

If he qualifies

[Ifyouonlyknew]

If he qualifies

He doesn't have grade issues

[Commercecomet24]

If he qualifies

Where did you hear that? That?s not true.

[Ari Gold]

If he qualifies

Let me guess... the spirit ..

[Commercecomet24]

Let me guess... the spirit ..

Lol I bet you?re right!

[Ari Gold]

They better worry about a couple in their own house when it comes to qualifying

[Dawgtini]

They better worry about a couple in their own house when it comes to qualifying

Ari bringing the BOOM!

[yjnkdawg]

Let me guess... the spirit ..


LOL ......... Probably or somebody's twitter account.

[BuckyIsAB****]

The McDowell replacement is a big upgrade. Need to pull Winkel or find another OT.

ETA: Paul has already put it out its Tyrone Sampson. 4* Army AA from Michigan.

I'll believe that when I see it. If hes a 4 star that we get on late in the game as a replacement he either has issues with grades or a record, or hes really not a 4 star.

[Todd4State]

Said the same thing a couple pages back and was told ?crystal balls? don?t mean everything. But my point was that we don?t even seem to be on his radar. But if he signs with UA or UT, our melt will still be epic!

They don't mean everything. If nothing else you can thank the Ole Miss writers for that- they crystal ball everyone to Ole Miss.

I'm not sure what you mean that we aren't even on his radar. He visited us last weekend.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Not that Im doubting IYOK or Ari, yall do great but 247 doesnt even show that we have offered Sampson

[Todd4State]

If MJ can land us Sampson to along with Dolla Bill that's our best o-line class in terms of stars since probably Jackie was our head coach. If we can land Winkel to go along with them- and I guarantee you that Joe and Marcus Johnson won't bitch out like Dan and Hevesy would have and just let him go to Arkansas without a fight. We still need to find a center prospect though. I would definitely take a flyer on Kameron Jones from Starkville at this point if I was the staff as well.

[Todd4State]

Not that Im doubting IYOK or Ari, yall do great but 247 doesnt even show that we have offered Sampson

If Ari and Paul Jones are reporting it- I'm pretty sure it's coming. Paul is not going to randomly throw out a name like that without good reason. At least I can't remember him doing that since I have been a member of his web sites.

[BuckyIsAB****]

If MJ can land us Sampson to along with Dolla Bill that's our best o-line class in terms of stars since probably Jackie was our head coach. If we can land Winkel to go along with them- and I guarantee you that Joe and Marcus Johnson won't bitch out like Dan and Hevesy would have and just let him go to Arkansas without a fight. We still need to find a center prospect though. I would definitely take a flyer on Kameron Jones from Starkville at this point if I was the staff as well.

I agree on the kid from Starkville. He'd be a project but hes got the size already

[Ari Gold]

Not that Im doubting IYOK or Ari, yall do great but 247 doesnt even show that we have offered Sampson

I said earlier in the week a new name or 2 may come up . The staff didn’t just pull this out their ass today . Let’s just see what happens esp if he visits..

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I agree on the kid from Starkville. He'd be a project but hes got the size already

He's not the backup for Winkel

[Bully13]

If he qualifies

You really piss me off sometimes.

[Todd4State]

He's not the backup for Winkel

I don't think he would be- we need ANOTHER one in addition to Winkel to give us four for the class....Dolla Bill, Sampson, Winkel, and Jones.

[Commercecomet24]

I said earlier in the week a new name or 2 may come up . The staff didn’t just pull this out their ass today . Let’s just see what happens esp if he visits..

I don?t have a ton of inside info but I can confirm what Ari saying. I heard this kids name mentioned a couple days ago but didn?t take it seriously. Apparently it was for real. I can say we are working him hard and he IS NOT a grade or qualifying risk.

[Todd4State]

I agree on the kid from Starkville. He'd be a project but hes got the size already

I can live with that from an offensive lineman. I don't expect them all to look like Randy Thomas his senior year as a freshman.

[Commercecomet24]

You really piss me off sometimes.

+1

[SmokeyDawg]

If MJ can land us Sampson to along with Dolla Bill that's our best o-line class in terms of stars since probably Jackie was our head coach. If we can land Winkel to go along with them- and I guarantee you that Joe and Marcus Johnson won't bitch out like Dan and Hevesy would have and just let him go to Arkansas without a fight. We still need to find a center prospect though. I would definitely take a flyer on Kameron Jones from Starkville at this point if I was the staff as well.
I believe he is the center prospect. Also his offer is now on 247

[Todd4State]

Let me guess... the spirit ..

Looking at the 247 thread- sevendust.

[Bully13]

I'll believe that when I see it. If hes a 4 star that we get on late in the game as a replacement he either has issues with grades or a record, or hes really not a 4 star.

You and shotgun need to go get a room.

[Todd4State]

I believe he is the center prospect. Also his offer is now on 247

You are correct. And that's even better because it gives us more flexibility. Having two four star guys at the most difficult positions to fill would be huge.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I don't think he would be- we need ANOTHER one in addition to Winkel to give us four for the class....Dolla Bill, Sampson, Winkel, and Jones.

Will be a 3 OL class

[Commercecomet24]

Will be a 3 OL class

Now that?s really good news!

[BuckyIsAB****]

You and shotgun need to go get a room.

Ha Im just telling you the facts. I'd love to be wrong

[Bully13]

Ha Im just telling you the facts. I'd love to be wrong

Loving to be wrong means you don't have the facts.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Ha Im just telling you the facts. I'd love to be wrong

There's no red flags.

[Commercecomet24]

The kids a Army All American a legit 4 star and a good student. That?s the facts.

[Todd4State]

Will be a 3 OL class

Well, we still need another one because using my Mississippi State education thanks to Hevesy's brilliant recruiting or lack thereof that would put us at four junior/senior offensive linemen for the 2021 season with only Suggs being a senior. With the 25 man limit it makes it a little bit more difficult to just sign JUCO's without causing holes in your team down the road.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Loving to be wrong means you don't have the facts.

That one is way above my head so you win. Hope we sign the kid

[Turfdawg67]

They don't mean everything. If nothing else you can thank the Ole Miss writers for that- they crystal ball everyone to Ole Miss.

I'm not sure what you mean that we aren't even on his radar. He visited us last weekend.

That awesome! Totally missed that he visited. By saying we aren't on his radar, I'm just going by the recruiting sites and his Twitter. Not much State mentions on either.

[Ari Gold]

How we close 1/29
Like I said lots would change week to week. And I like this week a lot

Brule
Smith
Lovett
Watson
Patterson
Frudge
Sampson (unless he doesn’t visit)

Winkle up in the air. Good thing is we should know next couple of days. If he chooses Hogs it still gives us time for plan B and still not sure we Take Jones.

That list looks better than last week. Staff doing a kick ass job IMO.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

How we close 1/29
Like I said lots would change week to week. And I like this week a lot

Brule
Smith
Lovett
Watson
Patterson
Frudge
Sampson (unless he doesn’t visit)

Winkle up in the air. Good thing is we should know next couple of days. If he chooses Hogs it still gives us time for plan B and still not sure we Take Jones.

That list looks better than last week. Staff doing a kick ass job IMO.

As of today

Watson
Furdge
Lovett
Smith (I think early P/T wins out)
Sampson (OV this weekend)
Patterson
Winkel or Jalan Robinson (We'll know soon)
Brule

[Ari Gold]

As of today

Watson
Furdge
Lovett
Smith (I think early P/T wins out)
Sampson (OV this weekend)
Patterson
Winkel or Jalan Robinson (We'll know soon)
Brule

I agree and I forgot Furdge .

[msstate7]

I will be very pleased if you two are correct. Thanks for prediction

[GreenheadDawg]

I will be very pleased if you two are correct. Thanks for prediction

+1. I don’t think anyone could complain if we close with that. Although, Shotgun will have something to say I’m sure.

[Doggie_Style]

As of today

Watson
Furdge
Lovett
Smith (I think early P/T wins out)
Sampson (OV this weekend)
Patterson
Winkel or Jalan Robinson (We'll know soon)
Brule

THAT'S A GREAT FINISH.....if any of them qualify***

[msstate7]

Robbie CB winkel to ark. I will not melt, but it seems the ark staff is laying the wood to us dec and January. Lock up Sampson, Moorhead

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Robbie CB winkel to ark. I will not melt, but it seems the ark staff is laying the wood to us dec and January. Lock up Sampson, Moorhead

It's only laying the wood if you can't get equal or better talent to replace your losses. That's why everyone here remember who we lost so vividly because we normally don't replace them with equal talent. Just for the moment let's say this how it plays out

Lose Bishop Gain Smith
Lose Mason Gain Brule
Lose McDowell Gain Sampson
Lose Winkel Gain Robinson

I think most fans would take those trades in a heartbeat. Again it's about who you sign not who you lose.

[msstate7]

It's only laying the wood if you can't get equal or better talent to replace your losses. That's why everyone here remember who we lost so vividly because we normally don't replace them with equal talent. Just for the moment let's say this how it plays out

Lose Bishop Gain Smith
Lose Mason Gain Brule
Lose McDowell Gain Sampson
Lose Winkel Gain Robinson

I think most fans would take those trades in a heartbeat. Again it's about who you sign not who you lose.

Good point. Finish strong, staff

[bostondawg]

We are now the favorite on CBs for Sampson (58%). If the staff lands a 4* OL this late in the game, that would be an incredible job.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

This is fun

[Homedawg]

He's not the backup for Winkel

and he shouldn't be. he's not that good.

[msstate7]

and he shouldn't be. he's not that good.

Which one is not that good?

[Homedawg]

Which one is not that good?

lineman from starkville.

[msstate7]

lineman from starkville.

I was hoping you would say the one headed to ark lol

[louisvilledawg]

lineman from starkville.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't this lineman the brother of one of our players?

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

What's the deal with Deuntra Hyman? Just decomitted from the bears to USM...

https://247sports.com/player/deuntra-hyman-46035417

[BrunswickDawg]

What's the deal with Deuntra Hyman? Just decomitted from the bears to USM...

https://247sports.com/player/deuntra-hyman-46035417

He never had a committable offer from OM ***

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

What's the deal with Deuntra Hyman? Just decomitted from the bears to USM...

https://247sports.com/player/deuntra-hyman-46035417

He visits Ole Miss this weekend so he is prob just letting them know his price went up

[Irondawg]

So what is arky pitching Winkel to win him over? I thought we were only worried about TN

[Commercecomet24]

It's only laying the wood if you can't get equal or better talent to replace your losses. That's why everyone here remember who we lost so vividly because we normally don't replace them with equal talent. Just for the moment let's say this how it plays out

Lose Bishop Gain Smith
Lose Mason Gain Brule
Lose McDowell Gain Sampson
Lose Winkel Gain Robinson

I think most fans would take those trades in a heartbeat. Again it's about who you sign not who you lose.

Yes siree! I?ll take those trades!

[Cooterpoot]

So what is arky pitching Winkel to win him over? I thought we were only worried about TN

Outdoor adventures with Ned Beatty.

[WPS]

So what is arky pitching Winkel to win him over? I thought we were only worried about TN

Early playing time probably. The OL is going to be horrible.

[PSYCHO(thesis)DEFENSE]

lineman from starkville.

just committed to ULL & coach Looney

[Homedawg]

just committed to ULL & coach Looney

Good for him!!

[Ari Gold]

Good for him!!

Agree.. was hearing it was Memphis or Juco. Glad he gets to play for for Coach Looney.

[Turfdawg67]

+1. I don?t think anyone could complain if we close with that. Although, Shotgun will have something to say I?m sure.

...but Carvin, Williams and Myles!

[Turfdawg67]

So what is arky pitching Winkel to win him over? I thought we were only worried about TN

Don?t know, but on Twitter, after his visit he said it was a *game changer*. If it were at OM, I’d say he lost his virginity and pocketed $10,000...

[msstate7]

What is the hold up on McDowell? Seems like he would go ahead and pull the trigger. Any chance Mullen is keeping him warm?

[ShotgunDawg]

What is the hold up on McDowell? Seems like he would go ahead and pull the trigger. Any chance Mullen is keeping him warm?

Florida has to make sure they miss on their other targets first. I kid you not.

[msbulldog]

It is time to cut the cheese. Winkel and McDowell, two-3 star recruits who are enjoying the first year of early signing to garner possible offers that they would never had been given last year. If they cannot commit seriously tomorrow. adios, seeya, best of luck, but we don't need you.

[ShotgunDawg]

Looks like Brule may not visit this weekend and will be committing to Arkansas tonight.

We are about to be 0-4 against the worst program in the SEC West this recruiting cycle.

Go figure.

[Turfdawg67]

Looks like Brule may not visit this weekend and will be committing to Arkansas tonight.

We are about to be 0-4 against the worst program in the SEC West this recruiting cycle.

Go figure.

Leave it to you to have the bad news first. Why not start a thread and let’s get a 10 page melt going?!? MS7 can log in to lament how Arky’s new staff is smoking ours... yawn. We will have a great class and recruit on a higher level, going forward, than Dan and his CC ever dreamed about!

[ShotgunDawg]

Leave it to you to have the bad news first. Why not start a thread and let’s get a 10 page melt going?!?

I don’t make the news

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Winkel to Arkansas

[msstate7]

Looks like Brule may not visit this weekend and will be committing to Arkansas tonight.

We are about to be 0-4 against the worst program in the SEC West this recruiting cycle.

Go figure.

Wow. Morris is our daddy on the recruiting trail

[somebodyshotmypaw]

It is time to cut the cheese. Winkel and McDowell, two-3 star recruits who are enjoying the first year of early signing to garner possible offers that they would never had been given last year. If they cannot commit seriously tomorrow. adios, seeya, best of luck, but we don't need you.

Winkel has already committed to Arkansas.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Patterson says he's signing with MSU or a JUCO.

[msstate7]

If ark does get brule, they will have flipped 2 of our DB commits and taken another of our prospects. They have smashed our DB class. Not to mention taking winkel. Morris is apparently a very good recruiter

[HoopsDawg]

If ark does get brule, they will have flipped 2 of our DB commits and taken another of our prospects. They have smashed our DB class

And 0 difference makers. Seriously, the only kid that kind of stings is Bishop b/c I liked his speed. If we get Eddie Smith it's an upgrade.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Patterson says he's signing with MSU or a JUCO.

Patterson actually said he's signing with MSU and a JUCO. You can sign with both.

[msstate7]

And 0 difference makers. Seriously, the only kid that kind of stings is Bishop b/c I liked his speed. If we get Eddie Smith it's an upgrade.

I will take your word on whether they are difference makers or not. I do know we wanted them, and ark took them from us... no sugar coating that

[msstate7]

Robbie and Paul, if we have some targets that are unknown, please do not let Chad Morris catch wind of them haha

[HoopsDawg]

I will take your word on whether they are difference makers or not. I do know we wanted them, and ark took them from us... no sugar coating that

I guess so. We are going to run a lot of 4-2-5 so I don't know where Brule fits. He's kind of a tweener and UGA only offered a grayshirt. Myles Mason was not wanted by AU or Bama and in today's game you need safeties that can cover. We should be fine with guys like Marcus Murphy on the roster.

Winkel was needed b/c he was the highest rated OT on our board and we need bodies. But I personally never viewed him as someone that would start for us. He would have been an afterthought if he would have signed early. Arkansas has a really shitty signing class. They were desperate for some numbers so kudos to them for doing the best they can with what's left.

[Commercecomet24]

I guess so. We are going to run a lot of 4-2-5 so I don't know where Brule fits. He's kind of a tweener and UGA only offered a grayshirt. Myles Mason was not wanted by AU or Bama and in today's game you need safeties that can cover. We should be fine with guys like Marcus Murphy on the roster.

Winkel was needed b/c he was the highest rated OT on our board and we need bodies. But I personally never viewed him as someone that would start for us. He would have been an afterthought if he would have signed early. Arkansas has a really shitty signing class. They were desperate for some numbers so kudos to them for doing the best they can with what's left.

Good analysis all the way around. I agree. I think Marcus is gonna be an elite corner one day. I think
Furdge has potential too. If we get Sampson and another OL I think we ok there. I think this class is gonna turn out pretty good.

[msstate7]

I guess so. We are going to run a lot of 4-2-5 so I don't know where Brule fits. He's kind of a tweener and UGA only offered a grayshirt. Myles Mason was not wanted by AU or Bama and in today's game you need safeties that can cover. We should be fine with guys like Marcus Murphy on the roster.

Winkel was needed b/c he was the highest rated OT on our board and we need bodies. But I personally never viewed him as someone that would start for us. He would have been an afterthought if he would have signed early. Arkansas has a really shitty signing class. They were desperate for some numbers so kudos to them for doing the best they can with what's left.

I just despise losing kids to other sec west programs. If we kept those guys, then our depth is better and ark is worse... win/win. I know we did not just lose any Jeffrey Simmons or will redmonds. We will be fine, but losing guys is never a good thing

[yjnkdawg]

I thought the intent of this thread was to furnish legitimate recruiting information, and not for a few posters to post "the Sky is falling in our recruiting" posts like this board has been over run with lately.

[msstate7]

I thought the intent of this thread was to furnish legitimate recruiting information, and not for a few posters to post "the Sky is falling in our recruiting" posts like this board has been over run with lately.
I thought the purpose of this thread was to discuss recruiting.

Yay, we lost another one to ark! High 5!

[BuckyIsAB****]

I thought the purpose of this thread was to discuss recruiting.

Yay, we lost another one to ark! High 5!

Im with you if we dont sign someone to replace him, but I think we will

[maroonmania]

I thought the intent of this thread was to furnish legitimate recruiting information, and not for a few posters to post "the Sky is falling in our recruiting" posts like this board has been over run with lately.

Apparently the intent has become to downplay the abilities of any recruit we get beat out on. Bottom line is, we were already signing a small class to begin with so we need to sign all SEC quality players with who we do get. I think we signed 15 good ones in December but we still need another 5-6 quality players minimum that will qualify to complete this class. Right now the new staff seems to be having trouble nailing down the final prospects to fill this class out with guys high on our boards. Never thought it would be Arkansas stopping us from finishing out this class like we want. Their program has been really crappy lately and the school is basically located all the way to northern Oklahoma. Just glad we didn't need a full 25 man class this year or we would be in a bad way.

[Ari Gold]

Everyone chill a little on Brule. Let’s let our staff get there tomorrow and see what happens.
A lot of this noise may be Arky trying to pressure a commit before CJM and the staff gets there tomorrow.
Saying that yeah we have a fire to put out.. let’s just chill the **** out a little and see what happens

[BuckyIsAB****]

Chad Morris is no scrub just letting yall know. He is a proven recruiter

[Commercecomet24]

Everyone chill a little on Brule. Let’s let our staff get there tomorrow and see what happens.
A lot of this noise may be Arky trying to pressure a commit before CJM and the staff gets there tomorrow.
Saying that yeah we have a fire to put out.. let’s just chill the **** out a little and see what happens

We got some posters on here that push the panic button way to quick.

[Root hawg]

Looks like Brule may not visit this weekend and will be committing to Arkansas tonight.

We are about to be 0-4 against the worst program in the SEC West this recruiting cycle.

Go figure.

Maybe he googled pictures of Starkville. Or realized MSU will be back in the basement of the west now that Mullen is gone.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Chad Morris is no scrub just letting yall know. He is a proven recruiter

Yeah, I hope this staff is legit with their recruiting reputations because the SEC has only gotten better with high level recruiters and more importantly, evaluators. Adding Jimbo and Morris to the West are bad news for MSU and OM.

[HancockCountyDog]

Maybe he googled pictures of Starkville. Or realized MSU will be back in the basement of the west now that Mullen is gone.

Enjoy your time here, it won't be long.

Also, 11-29 in the SEC the last five years doesn't even merit a snappy response, just pity.

Good luck to y'all. Maybe some of these guys we offered late will help y'all be competitive in the bottom half of the SEC West.

[maroonmania]

Maybe he googled pictures of Starkville. Or realized MSU will be back in the basement of the west now that Mullen is gone.

You really took the time to sign up on this board to post that drivel? Has Arkansas not figured out this internet thingy to give you a place to post? Hopefully you won't last long enough for a 2nd post.

[yjnkdawg]

Maybe he googled pictures of Starkville. Or realized MSU will be back in the basement of the west now that Mullen is gone.


Thank you so very much for this enlightening and very knowledgeable post, and such a great addition to the recruiting thread. ****
Did you actually get your degree from the University of ARK (could be OM? ), or are you still waiting to get out of high school?

[msstate7]

Thank you so very much for this enlightening and very knowledgeable post, and such a great addition to the recruiting thread. ****
Did you actually get your degree from the University of ARK (could be OM? ), or are you still waiting to get out of high school?

I would bet OM troll

[HancockCountyDog]

Nebraska has offered Jalan Robinson out of Kansas, not sure where he visits this weekend.

Looks like he visits Nebraska Wed-Fri and then us.

[Bothrops]

Maybe he googled pictures of Starkville. Or realized MSU will be back in the basement of the west now that Mullen is gone.

Moorhead's offense will keep the Arky's of the world snapping at our heels.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Nebraska has offered Jalan Robinson out of Kansas, not sure where he visits this weekend.

Suppose to visit Nebraska Wed-Thurs & MSU the weekend

[msstate7]

Nebraska has offered Jalan Robinson out of Kansas, not sure where he visits this weekend.

On his 247 page, it says he will visit Nebraska Jan 31st and us this weekend. Who knows though?

[Cooterpoot]

Maybe he googled pictures of Starkville. Or realized MSU will be back in the basement of the west now that Mullen is gone.

Says the hawger of the root.

[Bothrops]

And 0 difference makers. Seriously, the only kid that kind of stings is Bishop b/c I liked his speed. If we get Eddie Smith it's an upgrade.

Brule could very well be a difference maker. I still think Saban is going to screw us out of getting Smith.

[Coach007]

Welcome Tyrone Sampson to the fold!


Will be our starting OC within 2 years! 5 start recruit.... 4 star composite ..

Flipped him from Nebraska

[yjnkdawg]

Brule could very well be a difference maker. I still think Saban is going to screw us out of getting Smith.



Saban is definitely slow playing him, and keeping him warm for now just in case, as Smith wants that Bama offer. Saban is a coach who can do that.

[msstate7]

Welcome Tyrone Sampson to the fold!


Will be our starting OC within 2 years! 5 start recruit.... 4 star composite ..

Flipped him from Nebraska

Did he really commit? If so, well done, Moorhead

[SmokeyDawg]

Saban is definitely slow playing him, and keeping him warm for now just in case, as Smith wants that Bama offer. Saban is a coach who can do that.

He can also go get one if not two of the top four cb uncommitted and I think he will do that and I think we are in better shape than TN if he does.

[yjnkdawg]

He can also go get one if not two of the top four cb uncommitted and I think he will do that and I think we are in better shape than TN if he does.


Seems to be between Bama and MSU. I agree.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Maybe he googled pictures of Starkville. Or realized MSU will be back in the basement of the west now that Mullen is gone.

Care to make a bet on that before you're banned?

[Jarius]

Maybe he googled pictures of Starkville. Or realized MSU will be back in the basement of the west now that Mullen is gone.

or Maybe he just really likes getting his ass kicked and not having to compete with anyone for a position, so he decided to go to a program that is in the SEC but has talent like it?s in the conference USA.

[Cooterpoot]

Brule could very well be a difference maker. I still think Saban is going to screw us out of getting Smith.

We dropped Brule for Mason. GA dropped him. Yeah...difference maker.

[msstate7]

We dropped Brule for Mason. GA dropped him. Yeah...difference maker.

So if we take another safety, it is our 3rd choice

[Gdogmeridian]

Hey guys. Long time reader first time poster. Had a question for those of you that are in the know or follow recruiting closer than me. See on 247 that we have offers to 2-3* OGs
-Jake Hardage & Larry Dixion, are we still interested in these guys and if so are the still interested in us.

[HancockCountyDog]

We dropped Brule for Mason. GA dropped him. Yeah...difference maker.

The way GA is recruiting this year, they are leaving some really good players out there. They are recruiting at Bama level, and Bama routinely lets NFL players walk. Just ask our piggy friend who benefited from Darius Philon a Bama cut a few years ago who ended up being All SEC.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

-Jake Hardage & Larry Dixion, are we still interested in these guys and if so are the still interested in us.

I always thought Hardage was an SEC guy and Dixon was borderline, but the bottom line is in 2018 you have 25 schollies. Gotta go get the top guys on your board and not settle. It'll get you beat

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I always thought Hardage was an SEC guy and Dixon was borderline, but the bottom line is in 2018 you have 25 schollies. Gotta go get the top guys on your board and not settle. It'll get you beat

Neither are SEC guys. Hardage looks like he's headed to Southeast Missouri State & Dixon has committed to Southern University.

[Cooterpoot]

So if we take another safety, it is our 3rd choice

Neither of those was truly a safety. They were going to be more LB than safety. We aren't hurting there. We've got a stud safety coming in already.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Y'all think Fabian Lovett takes the trip to Florida Friday?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Y'all think Fabian Lovett takes the trip to Florida Friday?

I hope so

[Bully13]

I hope so

Why?

[Ari Gold]

Why?

Hard for Umiss to pull their bullshit when he is in Gainesville. And saying that I don’t think he makes the trip and I think we land him no matter what

[msstate7]

Hard for Umiss to pull their bullshit when he is in Gainesville. And saying that I don’t think he makes the trip and I think we land him no matter what

Is OM pushing him for I suppose an unofficial?

[Doggie_Style]

Is OM pushing him for I suppose an unofficial?

I heard OM has basically given up on Lovett. We continue the full court press on him while Florida is interested but doesn't feel like he is a top target. My guess is he signs with State.

[msstate7]

I heard OM has basically given up on Lovett. We continue the full court press on him while Florida is interested but doesn't feel like he is a top target. My guess is he signs with State.

This would be a huge win by our staff getting him back.

[BuckyIsAB****]

This would be a huge win by our staff getting him back.

I dont wanna jinx it but I think Lovett is coming. I THINK

[Commercecomet24]

I dont wanna jinx it but I think Lovett is coming. I THINK

😎

[msstate7]

No surprise here, but McDowell officially flips to Florida

[Homedawg]

At this point looks like a 2 ol class. At best. And if it's more it will be w guys nobody in the board has heard of.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

At this point looks like a 2 ol class. At best. And if it's more it will be w guys nobody in the board has heard of.

Very well may be

[msstate7]

At this point looks like a 2 ol class. At best. And if it's more it will be w guys nobody in the board has heard of.

Pretty sad that we absolutely cannot miss on a recruit (Sampson) that we just realized we were in the game on. Hopefully Johnson makes it to Starkville this weekend not a cornhusker

[Bothrops]

At this point looks like a 2 ol class. At best. And if it's more it will be w guys nobody in the board has heard of.

If it's Dolla Bill and Tyrone Sampson, I can live with that.