2018 Recruiting Thread

[archdawg]

Are cole smith and carvin expected to sign early?

[preachermatt83]

Who is aaron Morgan. Said he recommitted to us but I didn't realize he had a committable offer.

[MetEdDawg]

I just saw Aaron Morgan on Twitter recommit to us after decommitting 2 months ago. I know new staff and everything but are we taking him?

[Cooterpoot]

He's a little confused.

[preachermatt83]

He's a little confused.

Maybe he is taking a PWO??

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Are cole smith and carvin expected to sign early?

Yea they're both early enrollees.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Maybe he is taking a PWO??

Just a kid who doesn't understand the process.

[archdawg]

Yea they're both early enrollees.

Cool. Still feeling optimistic about both?

[Ari Gold]

Again everyone RELAX ..

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Again everyone RELAX ..

Who is freaking out?

[DawgNamedScuba]

Again everyone RELAX ..

Already ahead of you

https://media.giphy.com/media/26BRs6hngaJQkaErC/giphy.gif

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Cool. Still feeling optimistic about both?

Yep

[louisvilledawg]

I just saw Aaron Morgan on Twitter recommit to us after decommitting 2 months ago. I know new staff and everything but are we taking him?

Was told by a #source that he is not a take now, and wasn't when he "decommitted." Hell he tagged buckley in his tweet.

[Spiderman]

I just saw Aaron Morgan on Twitter recommit to us after decommitting 2 months ago. I know new staff and everything but are we taking him?

Who? Refresh my memory

[MetEdDawg]

Who? Refresh my memory

DE from Miami. Doesn’t have very good offers at all. Can’t imagine he’s a take right now so I was shocked when I saw it come across Twitter from his account.

[Bothrops]

Aaron Morgan, not a take.

[dawgman15]

Haven’t seen it on here yet but we lost Nero Nelson, my bad if Im late

[confucius say]

Haven’t seen it on here yet but we lost Nero Nelson, my bad if Im late

Lost isn't the word I'd use.

[dawgman15]

Anyway we can get an updated list of commits on the first page?

[preachermatt83]

Haven’t seen it on here yet but we lost Nero Nelson, my bad if Im late

He didn't keep up his end of the deal in the classroom.

[msstate7]

David Johnson CB carvin to Memphis. That is a strange prediction

[Cooterpoot]

DJ is a ***** meow

[preachermatt83]

David Johnson CB carvin to Memphis. That is a strange prediction

His HS coach just took a job at memphis

[Cooterpoot]

OM is beating their chests with Corral and Ealy committing. #winningpr

[BeardoMSU]

OM is beating their chests with Corral and Ealy committing. #winningpr

Isn't Ealy MLB bound?

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

His HS coach just took a job at memphis

He also said that move does not move Memphis up.

[Cooterpoot]

Yep. They got a problem kid and a sure MLB signee. But the press it what they get out of it.

[ShotgunDawg]

Isn't Ealy MLB bound?

Yes in about the first 15 overall picks.

He’s worth nothing more than recruiting points.

Odd though because I thought he was an MSU lean. Not sure what happened

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Yes in about the first 15 overall picks.

He’s worth nothing more than recruiting points.

Odd though because I thought he was an MSU lean. Not sure what happened

You have the answer in the line above. Nothing more but recruiting points.

[preachermatt83]

Yep. They got a problem kid and a sure MLB signee. But the press it what they get out of it.

A kid from walnut grove made his way to Jackson prep?? Have any of you ever been to walnut grove??

[maroonmania]

Let me just say that I think looking at how Moorhead has come in here and held this recruiting thing together just shows me how little Mullins personally meant in our recruiting effort. The recruiting issues Don has had since moving down to UF also enforces my opinion on that as well.

[dawgday166]

Let me just say that I think looking at how Moorhead has come in here and held this recruiting thing together just shows me how little Mullins personally meant in our recruiting effort. The recruiting issues Don has had since moving down to UF also enforces my opinion on that as well.

Well now Don's a little handicapped this year. He hasn't had a summer camp at FL full of 2* players to evaluate (and offer) yet. **

[preachermatt83]

Let me just say that I think looking at how Moorhead has come in here and held this recruiting thing together just shows me how little Mullins personally meant in our recruiting effort. The recruiting issues Don has had since moving down to UF also enforces my opinion on that as well.

Absolutely agree

[msbulldog]

Let me just say that I think looking at how Moorhead has come in here and held this recruiting thing together just shows me how little Mullins personally meant in our recruiting effort. The recruiting issues Don has had since moving down to UF also enforces my opinion on that as well.

Heck these kids aren't stupid, they sensed Don wasn't genuine when they talked to him. Now they talk to Coach Moorhead and are put at ease by his honesty and genuineness. In Cohen I trust! Rep given!

[Bully13]

I hope Don and UF get 17'd into the never world and sleepness nights for Strick & Merlins follow them for years on end.

[HoopsDawg]

Let me just say that I think looking at how Moorhead has come in here and held this recruiting thing together just shows me how little Mullins personally meant in our recruiting effort. The recruiting issues Don has had since moving down to UF also enforces my opinion on that as well.

Mullen was and is a horrible recruiter. It made it worse by the fact that he also hates to recruit.

[ShotgunDawg]

Smith not visiting

[msstate7]

Smith not visiting

Panic over Murphy and elation over smith... all for nothing. Thanks recruiting sites

[maroonmania]

Smith not visiting

So he's locked back in with LSU?

[Big4Dawg]

But I Seen it said...**

[msstate7]

I never got my hopes up over smith. I really hope we can hold our guys and add carvin and whop though

[BeardoMSU]

But I Seen it said...**

http://68.media.tumblr.com/77b47fda5e3c268dca340f68d094b077/tumblr_o7mwtaRhcl1s9a9yjo1_500.gif

[preachermatt83]

So who all showed up this weekend? I thought whop was coming??

[Cooterpoot]

Whop wasn’t scheduled to come.

[HoopsDawg]

But I Seen it said...**

Ari Gold/I seen it are always going to lean positive to calm you guys down or try and project positive momentum. Fact is, they know no more than Steve or Paul. Probably less.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Ari Gold/I seen it are always going to lean positive to calm you guys down or try and project positive momentum. Fact is, they know no more than Steve or Paul. Probably less.
This should get a good response

[Okrastar1]

Ari Gold/I seen it are always going to lean positive to calm you guys down or try and project positive momentum. Fact is, they know no more than Steve or Paul. Probably less.

Damn �� take... Woof, this will be fun

[DLGDawg]

Damn �� take... Woof, this will be fun

From someone w a step son on the team at pontotoc, a good many(not all) have thought he would sign w us in the end.
That?s second hand info....so TIFWIW

[BrunswickDawg]

FYI - Griffin McDowell and Lee County won the GA 6A State Title last night, defeating Coffee County 27-21.

[Spiderman]

Panic over Murphy and elation over smith... all for nothing. Thanks recruiting sites

Why anybody would pay for those recruiting sites now a days is beyond me.

[Spiderman]

A kid from walnut grove made his way to Jackson prep?? Have any of you ever been to walnut grove??

Been a lot of heppin'

[preachermatt83]

Been a lot of heppin'

Lol,ain't no doubt.

[MetEdDawg]

We have a list of who all made it this weekend? Like Cole Smith?

[Ari Gold]

Ari Gold/I seen it are always going to lean positive to calm you guys down or try and project positive momentum. Fact is, they know no more than Steve or Paul. Probably less.

Whatever you want to think .. I cant speak for I seen it ( and I?m sure he will chime in at some point ) but you sound like a little ***** that gets his feelings hurt that you don?t know as much as we do.. maybe I have put you in ur place before and you didn?t like it.
If you don?t like the info I bring don?t ****ing read it.

And just little FYI , who was the ONLY guy here, 24/7 , scout, genspage wherever that said we would be landing Whop months ago.?
That would be ME bitch.

[HoopsDawg]

Whatever you want to think .. I cant speak for I seen it ( and I?m sure he will chime in at some point ) but you sound like a little ***** that gets his feelings hurt that you don?t know as much as we do.. maybe I have put you in ur place before and you didn?t like it.
If you don?t like the info I bring don?t ****ing read it.

And just little FYI , who was the ONLY guy here, 24/7 , scout, genspage wherever that said we would be landing Whop months ago.?
That would be ME bitch.

Cool. Recruiting is for entertainment purposes only. So thanks for the entertainment.

[I seen it dawg]

Ari Gold/I seen it are always going to lean positive to calm you guys down or try and project positive momentum. Fact is, they know no more than Steve or Paul. Probably less.

Whatever you want to think snapperhead.

[HoopsDawg]

Whatever you want to think snapperhead.

Do you post from your phone and Ari posts from your computer or what?

[Ari Gold]

Cool. Recruiting is for entertainment purposes only. So thanks for the entertainment.

Recruiting is for entertainment only? I guess that why this thread is almost 70 pages long.
Well then how bout you stay the **** off this thread.
Better yet next time you post on here your ass will be on a little break ..
Is that clear enough for ya??

[HoopsDawg]

Recruiting is for entertainment only? I guess that why this thread is almost 70 pages long.
Well then how bout you stay the **** off this thread.
Better yet next time you post on here your ass will be on a little break ..
Is that clear enough for ya??

A little sensitive huh? If you ban me for even a minute, I will never post on this board again. Go for it.

[msstate7]

Why anybody would pay for those recruiting sites now a days is beyond me.

I do not, and crap like that is why

[I seen it dawg]

A little sensitive huh? If you ban me for even a minute, I will never post on this board again. Go for it.

1. You’re not getting banned. Being a douche doesn’t warrant it alone.
2. You have a typical shitbird view of yourself as a poster and your importance to the board. Overinflated. I promise the board will survive without you and highly doubtful if anyone will notice you’re gone. Go for it.

[BeardoMSU]

Recruiting is for entertainment only? I guess that why this thread is almost 70 pages long.
Well then how bout you stay the **** off this thread.
Better yet next time you post on here your ass will be on a little break ..
Is that clear enough for ya??

I appreciate your recruiting info, Ari. I seriously do.

That being said, Hoops' posts are definitely not deserving of a ban.

[Todd4State]

I'm not worried about a MSU legacy not visiting our campus after he has been to a ton of football games over the years.

[msstate7]

I'm not worried about a MSU legacy not visiting our campus after he has been to a ton of football games over the years.

You think he coming here?

[HoopsDawg]

1. You’re not getting banned. Being a douche doesn’t warrant it alone.
2. You have a typical shitbird view of yourself as a poster and your importance to the board. Overinflated. I promise the board will survive without you and highly doubtful if anyone will notice you’re gone. Go for it.

Let's not ruin the recruiting thread even further. Just to be clear, I don't over-value myself as a poster. Just stating that if you or your alter-ego decided to go on a power trip and ban me for calling you out, then I wouldn't be returning. Gotta be able to take a little criticism.

[I seen it dawg]

Let's not ruin the recruiting thread even further. Just to be clear, I don't over-value myself as a poster. Just stating that if you or your alter-ego decided to go on a power trip and ban me for calling you out, then I wouldn't be returning. Gotta be able to take a little criticism.

Not one letter you type has any effect on me. Also I have one poster name so your detective work is sorely lacking. If i cared enough about your drivel to powertrip you wouldn’t have to worry about it being your decision whether to come back from a ban. I’d take that decision out of your hands. And we can agree let’s unhijack this thread.

[Ari Gold]

This recruiting thread is for fans that want info on recruiting. Since you you don’t like the entertainment It brings just refrain from clicking on it.

[HoopsDawg]

This recruiting thread is for fans that want info on recruiting. Since you you don’t like the entertainment It brings just refrain from clicking on it.

Recruiting to me, is entertainment. I don't know why that's so hard for you to understand.

[Bully13]

This recruiting thread is for fans that want info on recruiting. Since you you don’t like the entertainment It brings just refrain from clicking on it.

thank you Ari. I consider your posts as just something I'm interested in. Those who want to put you on trial are just whiney bitches. I'm just a MSU fan who likes to lurk and observe and pass some time. You give folk like me something to read and enjoy and pass some time. In the end, it's no big deal. there's more important things going on in my life.

[sscjr1]

Recruiting to me, is entertainment. I don't know why that's so hard for you to understand.

Since you like to call people out when they?re wrong, will you give them credit when they?re right?

[I seen it dawg]

Since you like to call people out when they?re wrong, will you give them credit when they?re right?

I guess there would be a first time for everything

[Todd4State]

You think he coming here?

I don't know. Maybe. I would put it right at 50%.

I'm just saying that just because he didn't come on an OV it doesn't mean that he won't come to MSU because there isn't really a need for him to come to see our campus or anything like that. Maybe he felt like it would be better to talk it over with his family this weekend. Maybe he wanted to go watch Star Wars. I don't know- I just don't think it means much in the grand scheme of things in this case.

[Cooterpoot]

LSU it is.

[maroonmania]

LSU it is.

Since it looks like Smith is sticking with the Ogre, anything new on Carvin? We really do need another OL.

[I seen it dawg]

LSU it is.

I was wrong on him it looks like.

[msstate7]

I was wrong on him it looks like.

It happens. Hopefully carvin not visiting tenn is similar in that both shun the in-state school

[ATTILLA THE DOG]

I was wrong on him it looks like.

it aint over yet,we still got a chance,it slim but it can happen

[I seen it dawg]

it aint over yet,we still got a chance,it slim but it can happen

Yeah but....

[Bully13]

Not landing Cole Smith confuses the shit outta me. Can't figure out how our OL crootin continues to suck complete ass.

[maroonmania]

Not landing Cole Smith confuses the shit outta me. Can't figure out how our OL crootin continues to suck complete ass.

Agree, I understand different strokes for different folks and all but why does an MSU legacy from Ponotoc want to go to LSU, which has a completely different culture, after losing his LSU position coach AND we just got rid of the great OL recruit repeller (Hevesy) plus we now have a much more likeable HC? Also our program is in as good a shape right now as its been in its entire history. Some things just make you scratch you head.

[Turfdawg67]

A little sensitive huh? If you ban me for even a minute, I will never post on this board again. Go for it.

You wouldn't be missed.

[GreenheadDawg]

LSU it is.

Wow, shocker. Even with Mullen gone we still can’t win recruiting battles. SMFH

[Big4Dawg]

Do y’all just expect a kid, where he has been committed to for months, flip just because we changed our OL coach? Wow

[Ari Gold]

The previous staff cost us Cole.

[5049]

Do y?all just expect a kid, where he has been committed to for months, flip just because we changed our OL coach? Wow

Exactly. Cole Smith never wanted to go to State. The new staff simply gave us a chance. He's always liked LSU, and honestly, people really should go with their first intuitions. 80% of late flips are emotional reactions.

[bulldawg28]

Not every kid wants to come to State.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Exactly. Cole Smith never wanted to go to State. The new staff simply gave us a chance. He's always liked LSU, and honestly, people really should go with their first intuitions. 80% of late flips are emotional reactions.

That's just not true. Cole came to a practice on Thursday to commit to MSU because he thought he was going to get offered. Hev said he wanted to see him in the spring 1st. That Saturday Cole went to LSU they offered & he committed on the spot. He's been to more MSU games this year than pretty much all of our commits. He loves MSU but there is a family dynamic working against us. Odds are low that it changes between now & Wednesday but Cole was all set to visit this weekend & flip to MSU. Those plans were changed & we'll see if the tide can turn these next few days.

[preachermatt83]

I'm guessing our other "big flip" ain't happening either?? That one would have been big!!

[maroonmania]

That's just not true. Cole came to a practice on Thursday to commit to MSU because he thought he was going to get offered. Hev said he wanted to see him in the spring 1st. That Saturday Cole went to LSU they offered & he committed on the spot. He's been to more MSU games this year than pretty much all of our commits. He loves MSU but there is a family dynamic working against us. Odds are low that it changes between now & Wednesday but Cole was all set to visit this weekend & flip to MSU. Those plans were changed & we'll see if the tide can turn these next few days.

Good grief, another legacy dealing with a "family dynamic". As we saw with Garrison Brooks, "family dynamics" rarely go well for us. Oh well.

[maroonmania]

Not every kid wants to come to State.

Nobody expects that but not every kid is a legacy from Ponotoc, MS.

[msstate7]

I'm guessing our other "big flip" ain't happening either?? That one would have been big!!

Who?

[bulldawg28]

Nobody expects that but not every kid is a legacy from Ponotoc, MS.

It has nothing to do with legacy. If parents allow kids to choose without their influence you'd be surprised. Living your "own" life is ok.

[AlSwearengen]

I don’t want to talk bad about anyone’s momma, but if my kid were choosing between living in Starkville and Baton Rouge and playing for orgeron and Moorehead. Easy decision unless you are going solely on “big school” vs. “little school”.

I don’t want to live in B.R. and I damn sure wouldn’t feel good about sending my kid to live down there.

[maroonmania]

It has nothing to do with legacy. If parents allow kids to choose without their influence you'd be surprised. Living your "own" life is ok.

Hope the kid is getting to make his own decision. Point is he's not "every kid". If it wasn't for where he's from and his natural connections to MSU nobody would think twice about which school he was choosing. All things being equal MSU should have every advantage you can possibly have in a situation like this.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Cole will sign with LSU

[msstate7]

Cole will sign with LSU

You got a definitive on carvin?

[ShotgunDawg]

That's just not true. Cole came to a practice on Thursday to commit to MSU because he thought he was going to get offered. Hev said he wanted to see him in the spring 1st. That Saturday Cole went to LSU they offered & he committed on the spot. He's been to more MSU games this year than pretty much all of our commits. He loves MSU but there is a family dynamic working against us. Odds are low that it changes between now & Wednesday but Cole was all set to visit this weekend & flip to MSU. Those plans were changed & we'll see if the tide can turn these next few days.

Unreal. Feels like that s type of stuff happens to us more than it should.

[CadaverDawg]

Why in the F are we hiring another Ole Miss grad to coach on our football staff? That makes 2, and that’s 2 too many. There’s thousands of position coaches out there, and Moorhead needs to learn more about this rivalry and steer clear of OM grads. I don’t like it one bit.

[HoopsDawg]

Cole will sign with LSU

Why didn't he play in the AL/MS all star game?

[msstate7]

Why in the F are we hiring another Ole Miss grad to coach on our football staff? That makes 2, and that?s 2 too many. There?s thousands of position coaches out there, and Moorhead needs to learn more about this rivalry and steer clear of OM grads. I don?t like it one bit.

Who #2?

[CadaverDawg]

Who #2?

Sounding like we’re about to hire Marcus Woodson to replace TBuck. I don’t like our staff so far. I’m just being honest. I’ll support them bc I’m willing to give JoMo’s hires a chance....but I do not like what I’m seeing.

http://gotigersgo.com/mobile/staff.aspx?staff=214

[HoopsDawg]

Who #2?

Marcus Woodson, corner coach from Memphis. Graduated from OM in '08.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Why in the F are we hiring another Ole Miss grad to coach on our football staff? That makes 2, and that?s 2 too many. There?s thousands of position coaches out there, and Moorhead needs to learn more about this rivalry and steer clear of OM grads. I don?t like it one bit.

I heard there could be three!! Woodson and Derek Jones.

[HoopsDawg]

Sounding like we’re about to hire Marcus Woodson to replace TBuck. I don’t like our staff so far. I’m just being honest. I’ll support them bc I’m willing to give JoMo’s hires a chance....but I do not like what I’m seeing.

http://gotigersgo.com/mobile/staff.aspx?staff=214

We need guys with MS ties that can recruit our state and the south. There just aren't many former MSU players that are DB coaches.

[CadaverDawg]

We need guys with MS ties that can recruit our state and the south. There just aren't many former MSU players that are DB coaches.

There’s a bunch that aren’t former OM players though

[CadaverDawg]

I heard there could be three!! Woodson and Derek Jones.

Good Lord, I hope you’re joking.

[HoopsDawg]

There’s a bunch that aren’t former OM players though

Yeah, I hear you. It just doesn't bother me at all. He is known as a great recruiter. I'm just different than 99% of the posters on here in the fact that I wish we only talked about OM during Egg Bowl week.

[dawgman15]

Yeah, I hear you. It just doesn't bother me at all. He is known as a great recruiter. I'm just different than 99% of the posters on here in the fact that I wish we only talked about OM during Egg Bowl week.

This, we’re a page about MSU sports yet half of the posts seem to be about TSUN.

[SmokeyDawg]

I don’t mind it as long as we are beating them with their alums

[ElectroDawg]

Is T Buck leaving? He was in Cappe's last night recruiting for State. Made several phone calls to recruits while he was there.

[preachermatt83]

Sounding like we’re about to hire Marcus Woodson to replace TBuck. I don’t like our staff so far. I’m just being honest. I’ll support them bc I’m willing to give JoMo’s hires a chance....but I do not like what I’m seeing.

http://gotigersgo.com/mobile/staff.aspx?staff=214

Only two hires I like at all is Huff and HUD.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Why didn't he play in the AL/MS all star game?

He's hurt

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I heard there could be three!! Woodson and Derek Jones.

Derek Jones & Woodson both coach DB's

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Yeah, I hear you. It just doesn't bother me at all. He is known as a great recruiter. I'm just different than 99% of the posters on here in the fact that I wish we only talked about OM during Egg Bowl week.

I feel the same. If you can coach & recruit I don't care where you went to school.

[CadaverDawg]

I feel the same. If you can coach & recruit I don't care where you went to school.

It’s not about them being from a team I hate....It’s about being from our in state rival and a team that our season being good or bad usually depends on us beating them to end the year. Not to mention, guys that will one day probably coach at Ole Miss yet will know the ins and outs of our recruiting tactics and program if you know what I mean. It’s just not smart in my opinion. 1 guy if he’s a badass? Okay. But 2 or 3 average position coaches? Why? Bad move imo

[dawgday166]

Yeah, I hear you. It just doesn't bother me at all. He is known as a great recruiter. I'm just different than 99% of the posters on here in the fact that I wish we only talked about OM during Egg Bowl week.

100% agree.

[Cooterpoot]

I’ve heard Johnson and Woodson have a deal with OM to get us on probation and then move over there.***

[GreenheadDawg]

It’s not about them being from a team I hate....It’s about being from our in state rival and a team that our season being good or bad usually depends on us beating them to end the year. Not to mention, guys that will one day probably coach at Ole Miss yet will know the ins and outs of our recruiting tactics and program if you know what I mean. It’s just not smart in my opinion. 1 guy if he’s a badass? Okay. But 2 or 3 average position coaches? Why? Bad move imo

The problem is some of you are viewing this through the eyes of a fan. This is their profession and most don’t give a shit about a rivalry. So you honestly think these guys are on a secret spy mission to infiltrate our program. If the guys can coach who gives a shit where they played.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Yeah, I hear you. It just doesn't bother me at all. He is known as a great recruiter. I'm just different than 99% of the posters on here in the fact that I wish we only talked about OM during Egg Bowl week.

Is he a great recruiter? Everyone on earth seems to be a "great recruiter", but then when you look at their on-field position group that supposed talent isn't coming through. Memphis pass D is 122 out of 129. I don't care who he can sign I care about results, and his track record is a**. Forget the OM stuff... Hiring him and Johnson seems to be getting a MS guy above both proven recruiting chops and on-field coaching. I care about coaching 1st, proven recruiting ability 2nd, and how good we think he'll fit with local culture 3rd. The OM hires can ONLY be justified by assuming "Mississippi ties" will equal 2) and 3). Neither coach has proven 1). 122nd is straight a**

Yes I support Moorhead and the rest of the hires, so don't think I'm trolling. but those 2 hires reek of caring about MS ties to check off a box at the expense of all else.

[Spiderman]

I don't know. Maybe. I would put it right at 50%.

I'm just saying that just because he didn't come on an OV it doesn't mean that he won't come to MSU because there isn't really a need for him to come to see our campus or anything like that. Maybe he felt like it would be better to talk it over with his family this weekend. Maybe he wanted to go watch Star Wars. I don't know- I just don't think it means much in the grand scheme of things in this case.

I learned one thing, unless it was to OM, nobody signs without taking a visit. Now he may hold off and not sign early and visit later. But I bet a dollar to a doughnut, he won't sign if he doesn't take a visit

[maroonmania]

Is he a great recruiter? Everyone on earth seems to be a "great recruiter", but then when you look at their on-field position group that supposed talent isn't coming through. Memphis pass D is 122 out of 129. I don't care who he can sign I care about results, and his track record is a**. Forget the OM stuff... Hiring him and Johnson seems to be getting a MS guy above both proven recruiting chops and on-field coaching. I care about coaching 1st, proven recruiting ability 2nd, and how good we think he'll fit with local culture 3rd. The OM hires can ONLY be justified by assuming "Mississippi ties" will equal 2) and 3). Neither coach has proven 1). 122nd is straight a**

Yes I support Moorhead and the rest of the hires, so don't think I'm trolling. but those 2 hires reek of caring about MS ties to check off a box at the expense of all else.

Seriously, how do you think OM fans would express themselves if they thought they were about to have multiple coaches on their staff that were MSU graduates? Yea, these guys may do alright but I seriously don't see the reason to not keep TBuck and Looney to bring in some coaches that are OM graduates that are really no more proven. TBuck is actually more proven as a recruiter. Guess the question in my mind is if these guys are so great why is Matt Luke not trying to get them on his staff? I bet he could hire them away from us in a heartbeat if he decides he wants them. I'm OK with one on staff but any more than that certainly does not smell right.

[Todd4State]

One thing no one is talking about is the fact that to coach at Ole Miss you pretty much HAVE to be willing to work closely with the Network. There are no ifs ands or buts about it and that limits who they can get to coach there. Most coaches don't want to end up like Barney Farrar or even Hugh Freeze because a show cause is something that will follow you around for the rest of your career. And most people don't want to go from Ole Miss to Jones JC.

So, my point is maybe some of these coaches with Ole Miss ties know this- and I'm 100% Johnson does since not working with the Network was much of the reason why Cutcliffe was fired in the first place- and so the only SEC option in their home state without compromising their ethics is MSU.

At any rate, I'm not sure why this has just now become such a big deal with our fans. Bob Tyler had a degree from Ole Miss. Easily one of the best coaches we have ever had. Tom Goode, Joe Lee Dunn, Melvin Smith, Tony Hughes, and others I'm sure have coached at both. That and the fact that some of our fans seem to assume that because someone coaches in the NFL that they can't recruit just absolutely confuse me right now.

[Todd4State]

I learned one thing, unless it was to OM, nobody signs without taking a visit. Now he may hold off and not sign early and visit later. But I bet a dollar to a doughnut, he won't sign if he doesn't take a visit

Again maybe so but I'm pretty sure we've had a couple of guys that have signed with us withut taking an OV.

[Todd4State]

Seriously, how do you think OM fans would express themselves if they thought they were about to have multiple coaches on their staff that were MSU graduates? Yea, these guys may do alright but I seriously don't see the reason to not keep TBuck and Looney to bring in some coaches that are OM graduates that are really no more proven. TBuck is actually more proven as a recruiter. Guess the question in my mind is if these guys are so great why is Matt Luke not trying to get them on his staff? I bet he could hire them away from us in a heartbeat if he decides he wants them. I'm OK with one on staff but any more than that certainly does not smell right.

They wouldn't be happy with it but again that's because they want people that will work with their Network. Woodson and Johnson are Cutcliffe guys- they aren't necessarily Network guys to my knowledge. Matt Luke, Hugh Freeze, Maurice Harris- all Network guys.

[maroonmania]

One thing no one is talking about is the fact that to coach at Ole Miss you pretty much HAVE to be willing to work closely with the Network. There are no ifs ands or buts about it and that limits who they can get to coach there. Most coaches don't want to end up like Barney Farrar or even Hugh Freeze because a show cause is something that will follow you around for the rest of your career. And most people don't want to go from Ole Miss to Jones JC.

So, my point is maybe some of these coaches with Ole Miss ties know this- and I'm 100% Johnson does since not working with the Network was much of the reason why Cutcliffe was fired in the first place- and so the only SEC option in their home state without compromising their ethics is MSU.

At any rate, I'm not sure why this has just now become such a big deal with our fans. Bob Tyler had a degree from Ole Miss. Easily one of the best coaches we have ever had. Tom Goode, Joe Lee Dunn, Melvin Smith, Tony Hughes, and others I'm sure have coached at both. That and the fact that some of our fans seem to assume that because someone coaches in the NFL that they can't recruit just absolutely confuse me right now.

Unless you are Hugh Freeze I guess. That poor guy had all that going on right under his nose but apparently didn't have a clue what was going on. That's why he got almost nothing while his assistants got multiple year show causes.***

[maroonmania]

They wouldn't be happy with it but again that's because they want people that will work with their Network. Woodson and Johnson are Cutcliffe guys- they aren't necessarily Network guys to my knowledge. Matt Luke, Hugh Freeze, Maurice Harris- all Network guys.

Come on, they wouldn't be happy with it regardless of a Network or no Network.

[msstate7]

David Johnson CB Lovett to flip to OM.

[SmokeyDawg]

David Johnson CB Lovett to flip to OM.

Wrong thread. This is pissing match and Network conspiracy thread.

[Cooterpoot]

David Johnson CB Lovett to flip to OM.

Well, he’s one of the few not signing. Lots of smoke around it. I won’t be surprised. We cut loose his buddy.

[Bothrops]

David Johnson CB Lovett to flip to OM.

They are selling him on playing time. With the OM situation right now, it's a pretty weak sell. You'd have to be dumb to fall for it.

[SmokeyDawg]

I don’t know his cb history but he also has the only cb for Carvin to Memphis. I’d be more intrigued if that happened

[Really Clark?]

I don’t know his cb history but he also has the only cb for Carvin to Memphis. I’d be more intrigued if that happened

His history is horrible and notorious for CB kids to UNM that were never going there. He does it on purpose to help the PR and try to aid them build momentum.

[msstate7]

His history is horrible and notorious for CB kids to UNM that were never going there. He does it on purpose to help the PR and try to aid them build momentum.

Yeah, his record is awful. Just thought it was interesting bc yancy predicted a flip last week also. Obviously OM is gonna do all they can to flip him

[SmokeyDawg]

Yeah, his record is awful. Just thought it was interesting bc yancy predicted a flip last week also. Obviously OM is gonna do all they can to flip him

It’s like it’s part of their recruiting plan to get 1 state flip per year. They made a really good choice last year

[Todd4State]

Unless you are Hugh Freeze I guess. That poor guy had all that going on right under his nose but apparently didn't have a clue what was going on. That's why he got almost nothing while his assistants got multiple year show causes.***

Last time I checked Hugh was begging for jobs at places like Middle Tennessee State or maybe being an OC somewhere. Compare that to a couple of years ago when he was trying to go to Florida.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

It's MSU or TN for Carvin. It's a coin flip. We don't do great with those. Maybe we're due.

[Todd4State]

Come on, they wouldn't be happy with it regardless of a Network or no Network.

And so why should we act like them? Them not wanting a MSU coach that is qualified makes as much sense as our fans not wanting an Ole Miss grad that is qualified.

Because they will hire them away? Make them sign a non compete clause or set their buyout really high. If they refuse to agree to that, then we'll know what their intentions would be if Ole Miss comes calling and then we don't hire them. Problem solved.

[Todd4State]

It’s like it’s part of their recruiting plan to get 1 state flip per year. They made a really good choice last year

Who flipped last year?

And if Paul is right it sounds like as long as we keep Baker we are in good shape.

[SmokeyDawg]

Who flipped last year?.

Reed from Columbus with the hat toss and burglary

[dawgday166]

Yeah, his record is awful. Just thought it was interesting bc yancy predicted a flip last week also. Obviously OM is gonna do all they can to flip him

Yancy still has him CB'd to MSU on 247.

[msstate7]

Yancy still has him CB'd to MSU on 247.

Talking bout Yanchy report from ms-al game

[BeardoMSU]

Reed from Columbus with the hat toss and burglary

And he didn't even make it to campus...

[msbulldog]

Reed from Columbus with the hat toss and burglary

Sure glad they flipped him, he was a marginal player anyway.

[Spiderman]

Yeah, his record is awful. Just thought it was interesting bc yancy predicted a flip last week also. Obviously OM is gonna do all they can to flip him

Yancy is a moron, but when he starts the flip stuff, look out. OM's coaches are telling him that.

For all his shit, he is closer to a coaching staff than any other fanboy website in the SEC

[msbulldog]

Yancy is a moron, but when he starts the flip stuff, look out. OM's coaches are telling him that.

For all his shit, he is closer to a coaching staff than any other fanboy website in the SEC

David Thomas is pretty tight with Luke.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Dont need to lose Lovett. Hes a good player

[CadaverDawg]

The problem is some of you are viewing this through the eyes of a fan. This is their profession and most don?t give a shit about a rivalry. So you honestly think these guys are on a secret spy mission to infiltrate our program. If the guys can coach who gives a shit where they played.

No, nowhere did I say shit about a spy infiltration. That would be dumb, which is why I’d never say it. What I’m saying is that we had many as good or better choices to choose from, yet we choose guys that will gladly leave us to go back to their alma mater in the future for equal pay, and take our playbooks and strategies on and off the field with them. To a team in state that we play every year and battle for recruits. It’s not worth it for us to hire OM guys unless they are hands down the best options out there...which these guys are definitely not. In fact, we’d be better off keeping what we have, which makes the hires even worse.

[Todd4State]

Reed from Columbus with the hat toss and burglary

Ah. I forgot about him. For obvious reasons.

[Todd4State]

Yancy is a moron, but when he starts the flip stuff, look out. OM's coaches are telling him that.

For all his shit, he is closer to a coaching staff than any other fanboy website in the SEC

It's the winky face that you have to look for.

[Bdawg]

It's MSU or TN for Carvin. It's a coin flip. We don't do great with those. Maybe we're due.

We don’t do well with a coin flip on instate guys. Can’t imagine our track record with out-of-staters on a coin flip. Sounds like you are inching our odds lower and lower on this kid. Hope we pull it out. NEED some OL.

[CadaverDawg]

We don’t do well with a coin flip on instate guys. Can’t imagine our track record with out-of-staters on a coin flip. Sounds like you are inching our odds lower and lower on this kid. Hope we pull it out. NEED some OL.

Yeah, based on our local recruiting guy’s opinions, it’s sounding more and more like we lost this kid to the new staff at Tenn. Would be a gut punch

[Bdawg]

Yeah, based on our local recruiting guy’s opinions, it’s sounding more and more like we lost this kid to the new staff at Tenn. Would be a gut punch

Not saying he’s lost yet but I’m tired of seeing linemen we want end up somewhere else only to be holding you know what in our hand.

[Turfdawg67]

Not saying he?s lost yet but I?m tired of seeing linemen we want end up somewhere else only to be holding you know what in our hand.

To bad we don't have ole Hev here to blame any longer.

[maroonmania]

To bad we don't have ole Hev here to blame any longer.

On the bright side now we have a former Rebel. He should be an easy target.

[Cooterpoot]

To bad we don't have ole Hev here to blame any longer.

Oh, you can definitely blame Hev still

[Bdawg]

Well I won’t put this on the new staff. I know they just trying to hold it together. But next year they will if it keeps happening. But it’s not over and if they pull this one out, it could show some promise for the future. If we win this battle between two new coaches( with Tn’s supposedly being a great recruiter) over an out-of-state kid, then we may have something to hang our hat on.

[ShotgunDawg]

To bad we don't have ole Hev here to blame any longer.

Uh. Apparently both Bleich & Carvin attempted to commit to MSU down the stretch & Hev wouldn't take their commitment.

Make of that what you will

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Uh. Apparently both Bleich & Carvin attempted to commit to MSU down the stretch & Hev wouldn't take their commitment.

Make of that what you will

Don't buy that at all

[Bothrops]

I never felt good about getting Carvin, once Pruitt was hired. He's getting fed a bunch of bullshit from that neck.

[ShotgunDawg]

We gotta get Carvin or Smith.

To miss on both would be deeply frustrating

[msstate7]

We might end up missing hev. His olines have been outstanding the last 2 seasons. We lost a potential 1st rounder for an extended period this season and did not miss a beat... obviously hev did something right.

[Ari Gold]

We might end up missing hev. His olines have been outstanding the last 2 seasons. We lost a potential 1st rounder for an extended period this season and did not miss a beat... obviously hev did something right.

How many players have been drafted to the NFL the last 9 years?
We won’t miss that guy at all.
The players here damn sure won’t miss him. That’s a fact.
We missed out on Cole this year and Charles last year because of Hev. Another fact.

[Ari Gold]

We gotta get Carvin or Smith.

To miss on both would be deeply frustrating

Land Carvin. Spilt with Mcdowell / Cole . Dolla Bill is all Dog. And let the new staff try and land a guy between now and NSD..
If all that happens , that will be one of the better OL classes on paper in a while.

And again, I had rather be Us right now with Carvin than anyone else.. unless something changes between now and Wednesday expect Carvin to State ..

[Bully13]

Uh. Apparently both Bleich & Carvin attempted to commit to MSU down the stretch & Hev wouldn't take their commitment.

Make of that what you will

I find that hard to believe

[dawgday166]

We might end up missing hev. His olines have been outstanding the last 2 seasons. We lost a potential 1st rounder for an extended period this season and did not miss a beat... obviously hev did something right.

2016?? Toward the end they finally started playing pretty decent, but not first 6 or so games. They were not good then.

[Bully13]

Land Carvin. Spilt with Mcdowell / Cole . Dolla Bill is all Dog. And let the new staff try and land a guy between now and NSD..
If all that happens , that will be one of the better OL classes on paper in a while.

And again, I had rather be Us right now with Carvin than anyone else.. unless something changes between now and Wednesday expect Carvin to State ..

folks are starting to not feel as good about Carvin of late. maybe 50 / 50. you feel better than 50/50 on him?

[Ari Gold]

folks are starting to not feel as good about Carvin of late. maybe 50 / 50. you feel better than 50/50 on him?

Yes.

[Bully13]

Yes.

Gracias. We will see and hope for the good guys.

[msstate7]

2016?? Toward the end they finally started playing pretty decent, but not first 6 or so games. They were not good then.

Obviously it did not start out the best, but we avg 5.63 per carry in 2016 to 5.17 in 2017. 1.39 sacks allowed per game in 2016 and 0.92 sacks allowed per game in 2017.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Uh. Apparently both Bleich & Carvin attempted to commit to MSU down the stretch & Hev wouldn't take their commitment.

Make of that what you will

Apparently? Where did you hear this?

[Todd4State]

Obviously it did not start out the best, but we avg 5.63 per carry in 2016 to 5.17 in 2017. 1.39 sacks allowed per game in 2016 and 0.92 sacks allowed per game in 2017.

Yeah. And then injuries happened forcing us to put our best o-line combination on the field which resulted in magical results.

[Todd4State]

We might end up missing hev. His olines have been outstanding the last 2 seasons. We lost a potential 1st rounder for an extended period this season and did not miss a beat... obviously hev did something right.

We're never going to miss anyone who never maximized our potential.

[msstate7]

So tom Loy (ND recruiting guy) has om landing a 4* athlete, 4* wr, and flipping a 4* wr from the Georgia bulldogs

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

So tom Loy (ND recruiting guy) has om landing a 4* athlete, 4* wr, and flipping a 4* wr from the Georgia bulldogs

You would think they would want defensive guys..They still havent learned s^%* about recruiting needs. Back to the same ole video game recruiting.

[dawgday166]

So tom Loy (ND recruiting guy) has om landing a 4* athlete, 4* wr, and flipping a 4* wr from the Georgia bulldogs

Wow! If that all happens, then they definitely be back in bizness close to full scale SMDH.

[msstate7]

Wow! If that all happens, then they definitely be back in bizness close to full scale SMDH.

If it happens, it would blow the keeping the only cheating local theory out the water... assuming they are indeed cheating. One is from Texas, Florida, and Georgia. I have no idea who these guys are though, so it may be they are not as prized as their ranking

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

If it happens, it would blow the keeping the only cheating local theory out the water... assuming they are indeed cheating. One is from Texas, Florida, and Georgia. I have no idea who these guys are though, so it may be they are not as prized as their ranking

they are borderline 4 stars. Still don't change the fact that they can't seem to recruit needs.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Uh. Apparently both Bleich & Carvin attempted to commit to MSU down the stretch & Hev wouldn't take their commitment.

Make of that what you will

Rosebowl alluded to this. But that is not what Rosebowl said. Rosebowl said he thought both Carvin and Bleich were close to committing earlier, and instead of Hev putting in the work to close the deal, he got lazy and let the opportunity pass. Rosebowl even said that Hev "sandbagged" down the stretch. But it's not like they tried to commit and Hev wouldn't accept the commitment.

[yjnkdawg]

they are borderline 4 stars. Still don't change the fact that they can't seem to recruit needs.



THIS - If Freeze had recruited for needs, then he would have made some "investments" in linebackers. It is a pr thing with them. If they had 10 4* receivers and could find three more 4*'s then the stars always win over needs up there.

[dawgday166]

If it happens, it would blow the keeping the only cheating local theory out the water... assuming they are indeed cheating. One is from Texas, Florida, and Georgia. I have no idea who these guys are though, so it may be they are not as prized as their ranking

1st time that happened before it was a 5* OT from FL, a 4* WR from Illinois, and a 5* DT from SC. Not quite the haul this time but it sounds like it may be along the same lines.

[msbulldog]

If it happens, it would blow the keeping the only cheating local theory out the water... assuming they are indeed cheating. One is from Texas, Florida, and Georgia. I have no idea who these guys are though, so it may be they are not as prized as their ranking

out-of-state receivers Marquez Ezzard, Ga or Elijah Moore, florida (a Georgia commit)

[Doggie_Style]

1st time that happened before it was a 5* OT from FL, a 4* WR from Illinois, and a 5* DT from SC. Not quite the haul this time but it sounds like it may be along the same lines.

Yep....very apparent that some kids know exactly where to go to get a little heppin'...

[Commercecomet24]

If it happens, it would blow the keeping the only cheating local theory out the water... assuming they are indeed cheating. One is from Texas, Florida, and Georgia. I have no idea who these guys are though, so it may be they are not as prized as their ranking

I actually believe they will have a better time cheating out of state than instate. They have a PR problem with recruits and coaches in Mississippi because of the recording of recruits and the lawsuits against Mississippi teenagers. Lot of coaches and parents instate are stearing clear of the unm bunch.

[BuckyIsAB****]

They arent signing those guys

[BuckyIsAB****]

And who cares if they do? We have our own class to worry about

[Commercecomet24]

And who cares if they do? We have our own class to worry about

Agreed.

[Commercecomet24]

Land Carvin. Spilt with Mcdowell / Cole . Dolla Bill is all Dog. And let the new staff try and land a guy between now and NSD..
If all that happens , that will be one of the better OL classes on paper in a while.

And again, I had rather be Us right now with Carvin than anyone else.. unless something changes between now and Wednesday expect Carvin to State ..

This is absolutely the right perspective.

[preachermatt83]

Public Service announcement- Some think that what these 18 year olds kids tweet don't matter, some think it does and freaks out. For those that freak out, I wouldn't look at malik heath's twitter

[Spiderman]

If it happens, it would blow the keeping the only cheating local theory out the water... assuming they are indeed cheating. One is from Texas, Florida, and Georgia. I have no idea who these guys are though, so it may be they are not as prized as their ranking

Assuming?

[msstate7]

Assuming?

Haha... only gave them benefit of doubt bc I have no idea how hard these kids are being recruited by big programs

[msstate7]

Public Service announcement- Some think that what these 18 year olds kids tweet don't matter, some think it does and freaks out. For those that freak out, I wouldn't look at malik heath's twitter

What he saying?

[Doggie_Style]

Public Service announcement- Some think that what these 18 year olds kids tweet don't matter, some think it does and freaks out. For those that freak out, I wouldn't look at malik heath's twitter

Some kids aren?t satisfied with the process unless they can instill some drama into their decision. They want a ?reveal ? moment. Some spectators like that BS as well.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Public Service announcement- Some think that what these 18 year olds kids tweet don't matter, some think it does and freaks out. For those that freak out, I wouldn't look at malik heath's twitter

Translation: someone please make me feel better about Heath, I?m one of those who freaks out.

[Gutter Cobreh]

Translation: someone please make me feel better about Heath, I?m one of those who freaks out.

You mean the site you pay money to doesn't have the scoop????***

[preachermatt83]

Translation: someone please make me feel better about Heath, I?m one of those who freaks out.

Lol, you are becoming quite unpopular around here lately.

[mstatefan91]

Do not tweet at recruits, especially high school recruits. But really, don't tweet at them. It doesn't help. You can only cause harm. Don't be that guy or gal.

Also, don't read too much into Twitter posts by recruits. Let the coaches and players do the recruiting. Keep yo ass out of it except for the boards.

[Todd4State]

Do not tweet at recruits, especially high school recruits. But really, don't tweet at them. It doesn't help. You can only cause harm. Don't be that guy or gal.

Also, don't read too much into Twitter posts by recruits. Let the coaches and players do the recruiting. Keep yo ass out of it except for the boards.

I would say that if you absolutely feel led to do something- just hit the "like" button on anything that they say positive about MSU. When there are hundreds of likes from MSU fans, they'll get the idea in a positive way.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Lol, you are becoming quite unpopular around here lately.

Lately? Ha! Where have you been? Fortunately for me, I really don't care about being popular on a message board.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

You mean the site you pay money to doesn't have the scoop????***

Yea actually they do. I guess you could get some here to go fetch it for you since they like paying for s*** and then giving it away. It's really a matter of common courtesy that far too many don't have nowadays because they want to be the one with the "latest news". I know it is going to continue to happen, I just have to accept that is the dishonest world we live in today. The fact that you guys are mocking it confirms my point exactly. THANK YOU!!!

[Really Clark?]

Yea actually they do. I guess you could get some here to go fetch it for you since they like paying for s*** and then giving it away. It's really a matter of common courtesy that far too many don't have nowadays because they want to be the one with the "latest news". I know it is going to continue to happen, I just have to accept that is the dishonest world we live in today. The fact that you guys are mocking it confirms my point exactly. THANK YOU!!!

If the site guys don't mind when you site them with information, I think your idea of dishonesty is off. They don't want people copying their work. You buy a newspaper but with your login you can't share the news because you paid for it. That makes no sense. And not everything posted by people on here is strickly info from site guys. They receive it from insiders or they are insider themselves. IYOK has as much and as quick if not quicker then the sites. But if a poster has the same info as the site under your logic they shouldn't share that because the sites is also posting that info under the pay side. You a mixing up information and news with their proprietary work. Big difference.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

If the site guys don't mind when you site them with information, I think your idea of dishonesty is off.

You are right. But some here do not cite anything. But it is what it is, I've stated that I have accepted it and am moving on.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Boy this thread has really taken a major downturn lately.

[msstate7]

Boy this thread has really taken a major downturn lately.

Get it back on track... tell us carvin is a lock

[Ari Gold]

Boy this thread has really taken a major downturn lately.

No ****ing shit...

[Ari Gold]

Get it back on track... tell us carvin is a lock

Tomorrow will be a very good day...

[msstate7]

Tomorrow will be a very good day...

Good deal

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

No ****ing shit...

well by all means grace us with more info then your Highness.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Tomorrow will be a very good day...

What he said

[ShotgunDawg]

Can Ifyou and Ari drop predictions today?

[Commercecomet24]

If IYOK and Ari both are predicting it, tomorrow should have us all feeling good! Thanks for y'alls info.

[Ari Gold]

Can Ifyou and Ari drop predictions today?

We will have over a dozen sign tomorrow.
Which will include Whop and Carvin
Also Heath will give a **** you to Yancy and crew when he signs tomorrow.

[BeardoMSU]

well by all means grace us with more info then your Highness.

maybe you should sit a few plays out...

[Gutter Cobreh]

Boy this thread has really taken a major downturn lately.

Before tomorrow comes, can we have someone edit the names of the "lead recruiters" on the 1st page for these players?

Half the recruiters listed are no longer on staff, so it may be time to delete that from each profile listed. No sense giving any of them recognition for something they didn't do.

[Ari Gold]

Before tomorrow comes, can we have someone edit the names of the "lead recruiters" on the 1st page for these players?

Half the recruiters listed are no longer on staff, so it may be time to delete that from each profile listed. No sense giving any of them recognition for something they didn't do.

Austin, Petterson , Gibson... there’s your key players for this class.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Ari or IYOK, any news on Harris? Did we stop his recruitment? Seemed to be trending heavily towards us until the last week or so.

[Bothrops]

We can also rate recruiters by stars ****

[msudawglb]

well by all means grace us with more info then your Highness.


So, let me get this straight. You pay for what Steve and Paul hear on genespage. Yet, you come here for free and ridicule and act like an *** to those who post what they are hearing. My high school basketball coach liked to use the phrase..."you'd ruin a free meal".

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Ari or IYOK, any news on Harris? Did we stop his recruitment? Seemed to be trending heavily towards us until the last week or so.

He's not apart of JoeMo plans

[bostondawg]

It looks like Whop and Carvin sign tomorrow (Thursday). Didn't know if that info was in this thread.

[preachermatt83]

Ari or IYOK, any news on Harris? Did we stop his recruitment? Seemed to be trending heavily towards us until the last week or so.

Numbers were too tight. Harris and Reed were told to search around. Only real decommit we've had is bishop. Austin, Peterson, and Gibson should all be given good raises for keeping this class together through a coaching chance. Unheard of to only lose 1.

[msudawglb]

It looks like Whop and Carvin sign tomorrow (Thursday). Didn't know if that info was in this thread.

tomorrow is Wednesday. Is it Wednesday or Thursday?

[preachermatt83]

It looks like Whop and Carvin sign tomorrow (Thursday). Didn't know if that info was in this thread.

Tomorrow is wed.

[bostondawg]

He's not apart of JoeMo plans

Really disappointed to hear that.

[bostondawg]

Tomorrow is wed.

Oops sorry. I'm just an idiot. Yes, tomorrow is Wednesday.

[mstatefan91]

Really disappointed to hear that.

Whop, Guidry, Heath aren't enough? Maybe we need an OT? ;)

Edit: I'm an idiot. Harris is CB, not WR.... :o

[StarkVegasSteve]

He's not apart of JoeMo plans

Hate to hear that. Felt like he could've immediately improved our secondary, but I'll give Moorhead a pass. He obviously knows more about it than I do

[bostondawg]

If we don't take Harris, I know that'll be a decision that is talked about for a long time. So I guess I'll just another voice shouting into the void, but here goes nothing.

We have a DT committed, Devon Robinson, who has an awful offer list. Only other P5 school to offer him is Vandy and Louisville. At a position that we historically recruit very well. In all likelihood, this guy probably will not contribute to the football team in any meaningful way. That isn't to say that he's a bad player or person. Just that most schools clearly think he's not even close to SEC-caliber.

Meanwhile, you have 4* Corione Harris. A secondary player who maybe projects as a safety at the next level. Who has an offer list that includes every major football powerhouse, SEC and non-SEC. And because we have too many safeties, we've told him to look around? But not Robinson? When we have a 5* DL coming in on the next class? And we struggle horribly in the secondary?

Perhaps I don't understand recruiting. But from the perspective of an ignoramus like me, this seems like a terrible decision. Can we just take one less no-name, no-offer-list player in the next class?

[ShotgunDawg]

If we don't take Harris, I know that'll be a decision that is talked about for a long time. So I guess I'll just another voice shouting into the void, but here goes nothing.

We have a DT committed, Devon Robinson, who has an awful offer list. Only other P5 school to offer him is Vandy and Louisville. At a position that we historically recruit very well. In all likelihood, this guy probably will not contribute to the football team in any meaningful way. That isn't to say that he's a bad player or person. Just that most schools clearly think he's not even close to SEC-caliber.

Meanwhile, you have 4* Corione Harris. A secondary player who maybe projects as a safety at the next level. Who has an offer list that includes every major football powerhouse, SEC and non-SEC. And because we have too many safeties, we've told him to look around? But not Robinson? When we have a 5* DL coming in on the next class? And we struggle horribly in the secondary?

Perhaps I don't understand recruiting. But from the perspective of an ignoramus like me, this seems like a terrible decision. Can we just take one less no-name, no-offer-list player in the next class?

If Harris had that many options, do you think he?d be signing with Kansas tomorrow?

His evaluation is a joke. Harris is a safety at the next level but only weighs 170 lbs. The evaluations on 247 this year were especially poor.

Harris is about an 83-84 caliber player

[bostondawg]

Whop, Guidry, Heath aren't enough? Maybe we need an OT? ;)

Fair response. To be clear: this is an excellent class and our staff has done a phenomenal job of keeping them all together. We'll land some players that are excellent takes. I'm really happy. We certainly need an OT.

It isn't that I don't trust JoeMo's staff, it's just that I also trust LSU, Auburn, Florida, Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, and West Virginia--all programs at or above our caliber who've offered him, in their ability to evaluate talent.

And given the plethora of bottom-of-the-barrel players we take every year, I just don't understand how we can't make the numbers work for Harris.

[mstatefan91]

Fair response. To be clear: this is an excellent class and our staff has done a phenomenal job of keeping them all together. We'll land some players that are excellent takes. I'm really happy. We certainly need an OT.

It isn't that I don't trust JoeMo's staff, it's just that I also trust LSU, Auburn, Florida, Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, and West Virginia--all programs at or above our caliber who've offered him, in their ability to evaluate talent.

And given the plethora of bottom-of-the-barrel players we take every year, I just don't understand how we can't make the numbers work for Harris.

See my edited post. For some reason, I thought he was a WR. Went and looked and... CB... You're good. I understand where you're coming from. Disregard my idiotic post

[bostondawg]

If Harris had that many options, do you think he?d be signing with Kansas tomorrow?

His evaluation is a joke. Harris is a safety at the next level but only weighs 170 lbs. The evaluations on 247 this year were especially poor.

Harris is about an 83-84 caliber player

I take it you're implying that his offer list is not full of actually commitable offers. If so, duly noted. And in short time I'll be joining the cult of Moorhead and blindly accepting all of his actions. It's just that the size argument I don't quite understand. Can he not put on 20 pounds of muscle at MSU? 5'11" is a fine height for a secondary player.

[BankerDog]

Devon Robinson made first team All-State and had a wonderful year. Think he had 15.5 sacks. Ole Miss also offered him. He has the size, speed, and work ethic to be what Nick James should've been.

[BankerDog]

I take it you're implying that his offer list is not full of actually commitable offers. If so, duly noted. And in short time I'll be joining the cult of Moorhead and blindly accepting all of his actions. It's just that the size argument I don't quite understand. Can he not put on 20 pounds of muscle at MSU? 5'11" is a fine height for a secondary player.


Can he keep his speed with 20 lbs of muscle? Does he have the frame to add 20 pounds? Can he tackle well enough for a safety? How are his hips and foot work now?

There's a lot more to it to it then just adding weight. Pegues, Perk all added weight and it slowed them down. Halloway couldn't gain weight and it would've for sure slowed him down.

[ShotgunDawg]

I take it you're implying that his offer list is not full of actually commitable offers. If so, duly noted. And in short time I'll be joining the cult of Moorhead and blindly accepting all of his actions. It's just that the size argument I don't quite understand. Can he not put on 20 pounds of muscle at MSU? 5'11" is a fine height for a secondary player.

Harris has a narrow frame.

Many people think that everyone can add 20lbs but your can’t out grow your frame. Harris has a very slender frame and lacks the physicality to play safety while lacking the outright foot speed and loseness of hips to play corner

[bostondawg]

Harris has a narrow frame.

Many people think that everyone can add 20lbs but your can’t out grow your frame. Harris has a very slender frame and lacks the physicality to play safety while lacking the outright foot speed and loseness of hips to play corner

Certainly I don't know the details of his recruitment or evaluation. But if what you're saying is true, just throw the dude on hands team and enjoy our increased pipeline into Landry-Walker. We take a lot of scrubs every year. This one wouldn't hurt.

[ShotgunDawg]

Certainly I don't know the details of his recruitment or evaluation. But if what you're saying is true, just throw the dude on hands team and enjoy our increased pipeline into Landry-Walker. We take a lot of scrubs every year. This one wouldn't hurt.

If we had unlimited scholarships I’d agree. Heck we could also throw in Jalen Reed from Olive Branch.

We only have 20-21 spots though and would have to drop a better player than Harris in order to take him.

[Ari Gold]

I Seent It said it last week. We have something brewing with a player that will be a NSD decision.
And he is a take no matter what the numbers are.

[ShotgunDawg]

I Seent It said it last week. We have something brewing with a player that will be a NSD decision.
And he is a take no matter what the numbers are.

As in tomorrow or in Feb?

Just a little hint? ..... maybe

[Commercecomet24]

I Seent It said it last week. We have something brewing with a player that will be a NSD decision.
And he is a take no matter what the numbers are.

Offense or defense? Don't want you to have to give away to much.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

If we don't take Harris, I know that'll be a decision that is talked about for a long time. So I guess I'll just another voice shouting into the void, but here goes nothing.

We have a DT committed, Devon Robinson, who has an awful offer list. Only other P5 school to offer him is Vandy and Louisville. At a position that we historically recruit very well. In all likelihood, this guy probably will not contribute to the football team in any meaningful way. That isn't to say that he's a bad player or person. Just that most schools clearly think he's not even close to SEC-caliber.

Meanwhile, you have 4* Corione Harris. A secondary player who maybe projects as a safety at the next level. Who has an offer list that includes every major football powerhouse, SEC and non-SEC. And because we have too many safeties, we've told him to look around? But not Robinson? When we have a 5* DL coming in on the next class? And we struggle horribly in the secondary?

Perhaps I don't understand recruiting. But from the perspective of an ignoramus like me, this seems like a terrible decision. Can we just take one less no-name, no-offer-list player in the next class?

Devon Robinson was the Auto Zone Liberty Bowl/Touchdown Club Memphis Defensive Player of the Year. Also TN 1st team All State. He finished the season with 72 tackles, 15.5 SACKS, 21.5 tackles for loss, and was credited with 28 QB hurries. You should pick a different hill to die on for Corione instead of Devon.

[Ari Gold]

Feb and Defesne..

I will let I Seen It drop the name it’s about to get out anyway..

[Ifyouonlyknew]

If Harris had that many options, do you think he?d be signing with Kansas tomorrow?

His evaluation is a joke. Harris is a safety at the next level but only weighs 170 lbs. The evaluations on 247 this year were especially poor.

Harris is about an 83-84 caliber player

I don't agree with this either. Corione is a good player. Not elite but not some scrub you're portraying him to be. In most years he'd be a take but just not this year. I wouldn't take him at safety over Shawn Preston or Myles Mason. I won't be surprised if he goes to Kansas & does well. We just don't have the room.

[Commercecomet24]

Feb and Defesne..

I will let I Seen It drop the name it’s about to get out anyway..

Thanks, appreciate the info.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I Seent It said it last week. We have something brewing with a player that will be a NSD decision.
And he is a take no matter what the numbers are.

Im assuming he is an out of state player

[Homedawg]

Fair response. To be clear: this is an excellent class and our staff has done a phenomenal job of keeping them all together. We'll land some players that are excellent takes. I'm really happy. We certainly need an OT.

It isn't that I don't trust JoeMo's staff, it's just that I also trust LSU, Auburn, Florida, Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, and West Virginia--all programs at or above our caliber who've offered him, in their ability to evaluate talent.

And given the plethora of bottom-of-the-barrel players we take every year, I just don't understand how we can't make the numbers work for Harris.
But that's just it, he doesn't have an offer from any of those. None.

[Cooterpoot]

I take it you're implying that his offer list is not full of actually commitable offers. If so, duly noted. And in short time I'll be joining the cult of Moorhead and blindly accepting all of his actions. It's just that the size argument I don't quite understand. Can he not put on 20 pounds of muscle at MSU? 5'11" is a fine height for a secondary player.

He's overrated. That's what folks are saying. Why do we need an overrated player? At best, he's a redshirt safety prospect. We've got a stud safety coming in this class already and we don't have spots available for lesser guys.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

But that's just it, he doesn't have an offer from any of those. None.


247 says Texas, A&M, Arky, and Oklahoma offered him. Are those not correct? I don't know how accurate the 247 offer list is, but if it is there's a lot of good P5 schools that think he can play

[Really Clark?]

247 says Texas, A&M, Arky, and Oklahoma offered him. Are those not correct? I don't know how accurate the 247 offer list is, but if it is there's a lot of good P5 schools that think he can play

I'm sure he was offered as a junior from a lot of schools, but they are not committable offers right now.

[Homedawg]

247 says Texas, A&M, Arky, and Oklahoma offered him. Are those not correct? I don't know how accurate the 247 offer list is, but if it is there's a lot of good P5 schools that think he can play

He could not commit to any of those. So yeah, there is no offer

[Bdawg]

Ok. Y’all have peaked my interest on this surprise player. Feel free to share anytime what’s going on with him if at all possible please. If he’s a “take no matter what,” this is what gets me excited about recruiting.