2018 Recruiting Thread

[tcdog70]

Yea, and pretty sure Trapp was a JUCO. Got 2 extra years of evaluation on him and Hev still couldn't see he wasn't worth a scholarship.

wait a minute--Joey did not start but he was a back up and gave us depth plus he was on punting and field goal teams. So He wasn't a bust. So in y'all opinion if a guy doesn't start He is a bust??

[tcdog70]

There should be a junior college offensive lineman in the state of Mississippi that is going to be a sophmore or redshirt freshman next year that was fully qualified coming out of high school that has grown or developed enough that we should take a chance on given our O line numbers in this class. They would have 4 to play 3 or 3 to play 3 and give us a little depth for the future

i think we have 3 -OL red shirtted--2 Jucos and Suggs--am I right?

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Jocquell Johnson never started and he was 3 year player. Sign guys that should develop into to SEC players

[vv83]

I say we offer a borderline at all the high schools that have a big time recruit next year or a high school we want an in at to finish out the class. At least sign the freakin 25.

I like this idea if we can't find replacements. That or go find some freak athletes playing basketball that we can try at DE

[Commercecomet24]

I like this idea if we can't find replacements. That or go find some freak athletes playing basketball that we can try at DE

Absolutely. Definitely have a chance if you sign someone as opposed to not signing anyone. And now with the 25 cap even more important.

[yjnkdawg]

I agree, and next year we will sign 25 and have to process some more.
Coach has stated he isn?t going to run anybody off right now, everyone has a clean slate. That?s part of the reason he isn?t going to over sign this year, along with the new staff hasn?t had a full recruiting cycle here. The guys we have ?lost? to other schools aren?t from Mississippi and have no loyalty to State. And while I know it hurt?s some folks feelings that those guys didn?t choose State, some folks don?t see the attraction that we see.



I admire Coach JoeMo for doing this because it gives every player an equal opportunity to earn a position, and not just based on what Mullen's thinking and evaluation was. It's Coach JoeMo's team now, and he may see something in a certain player that Mullen didn't. I agree. I think most of those complaining are still looking back when MSU was recruiting kids who grew up being Bulldogs, or had connections to MSU, and thinking these AL, LA, etc. kids have that same mindset. Also kids change their minds and sometimes they just like one school better than another one.

[yjnkdawg]

David Johnson even has his CB prediction to MSU for Lovett and Reed this morning.

[Commercecomet24]

For the gloom and doom few on here. David Johnson has his CB prediction to MSU for Lovett and Reed this morning.

That?s some good news, at least to me.

[yjnkdawg]

That?s some good news, at least to me.


Yep to me too. I probably shouldn't have put for the gloom and doom comment> I'll edit and delete that.

[Ari Gold]

To add to all the gloom and doom and meltdowns ..

Of the top 5 guys we missed on. If we had the old staff still intact we prob just land 2 of them. ( McDowell and Bleich)
Carvin - Tenn
Smith - Bama
Bishop - would have still flipped to Arky
And I bet Mason would have still flipped as well.

So let’s see what the new staff can do now that they are all intact and have been here more than a minute or 2.

[Commercecomet24]

To add to all the gloom and doom and meltdowns ..

Of the top 5 guys we missed on. If we had the old staff still intact we prob just land 2 of them. ( McDowell and Bleich)
Carvin - Tenn
Smith - Bama
Bishop - would have still flipped to Arky
And I bet Mason would have still flipped as well.

So let’s see what the new staff can do now that they are all intact and have been here more than a minute or 2.

Agreed.

[HoopsDawg]

Since we have open scholarships, I wish we would offer Tylan Knight as a special teams specialist. He will probably sign with Ole Miss.

[Pollodawg]

This why I don’t do recruiting. Moorhead has been here, what, three months, max. And this talk already?

[yjnkdawg]

To add to all the gloom and doom and meltdowns ..

Of the top 5 guys we missed on. If we had the old staff still intact we prob just land 2 of them. ( McDowell and Bleich)
Carvin - Tenn
Smith - Bama
Bishop - would have still flipped to Arky
And I bet Mason would have still flipped as well.

So let’s see what the new staff can do now that they are all intact and have been here more than a minute or 2.


I agree too.

[Commercecomet24]

Since we have open scholarships, I wish we would offer Tylan Knight as a special teams specialist. He will probably sign with Ole Miss.

Yeah I?m not in favor of us leaving schollies on the table especially with the cap coming.

[Cooterpoot]

Again.....there will not be scholarships that go "unused". I don't why people keep talking about this crap. Dan is gone.

[Johnson85]

Again.....there will not be scholarships that go "unused". I don't why people keep talking about this crap. Dan is gone.

So what is our number to have 85 scholarship players in the spring?

Of course that ensures that we will have "unused" scholarships in the spring (obviously we'll give them to somebody, but it will be upper classmen walkons) because we will have attrition after people get an idea of where they are on the depth chart.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So what is our number to have 85 scholarship players in the spring?

Of course that ensures that we will have "unused" scholarships in the spring (obviously we'll give them to somebody, but it will be upper classmen walkons) because we will have attrition after people get an idea of where they are on the depth chart.

Nobody has 85 scholarship players in the spring. Not when you're going to add 10-18 guys every year in the summer. Unless I'm not understanding your post.

[SmokeyDawg]

From what I understand the total we have scholarships for is 21 I believe. Any more and you have to process that many out which Moorhead said he wasn’t going to do this year. We have 18 committed (1 sign and place) add Lovett and reed. We have 1 scholarship remaining unless someone processes themself.

[Commercecomet24]

From what I understand the total we have scholarships for is 21 I believe. Any more and you have to process that many out which Moorhead said he wasn?t going to do this year. We have 18 committed (1 sign and place) add Lovett and reed. We have 1 scholarship remaining unless someone processes themself.

We only have 15 that have signed so if 21 is the max we have 6 left that we could sign next week.

We do have the 3 that are committed and If those 3 signed we would have 3 left.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

From what I understand the total we have scholarships for is 21 I believe. Any more and you have to process that many out which Moorhead said he wasn’t going to do this year. We have 18 committed (1 sign and place) add Lovett and reed. We have 1 scholarship remaining unless someone processes themself.

It's 20 as of right now.

[SmokeyDawg]

We only have 15 that have signed so if 21 is the max we have 6 left that we could sign next week.

We do have the 3 that are committed and If those 3 signed we would have 3 left.

I thought Moon transfer made it 21 but it is 20. 15 signed + commits Watson, Furdge, Patterson (s&p), and Lovett, Reed. That?s our 20 scholarships to get us at 85. For anyone we add someone else has to be proccessed

[Commercecomet24]

I thought Moon transfer made it 21 but it is 20. 15 signed + commits Watson, Furdge, Patterson (s&p), and Lovett, Reed. That?s our 20 scholarships to get us at 85. For anyone we add someone else has to be proccessed

Yep that?s what it looks like unless we take somebody in lieu of one of those 3 that are committed now.

[MaroonBelle]

To add to all the gloom and doom and meltdowns ..

Of the top 5 guys we missed on. If we had the old staff still intact we prob just land 2 of them. ( McDowell and Bleich)
Carvin - Tenn
Smith - Bama
Bishop - would have still flipped to Arky
And I bet Mason would have still flipped as well.

So let?s see what the new staff can do now that they are all intact and have been here more than a minute or 2.

Here's what I don't get. Everyone saying Ark and Tenn staff coming in and recruiting harder and having better success under the same circumstances as us. No, they are not the same circumstances. Ark coach brought his entire offensive staff with him. So already had coaches familiar with him, what he wanted to do and how he wanted it done. Tennessee, yes had to hire new staff also, so similar, but with a new head coach that just came off a National Championship win with Bama (might be a strong selling point) and regardless of what Tennessee has become in the last 10 years, they still have much better name recognition than ours and better history. BUT (and it's a big one) neither of those coaches had to deal with their predecessor (a popular and successful coach, who had moved to a top 10 athletic program) recruiting their already committed players away from them. All those guys had to concentrate on was finding new recruits to fill out their classes. They didn't have to fight off the previous coach who had recruited all their current kids to start with. Who had a head start of trust and on field success going back months and even years. I can only imagine the kind of effort it took to keep all the guys we did with "he who shall not be named" up in their houses doing the gator chomp within a week after he left here. Our staff couldn't concentrate on what might happen after early signing cause they were in the fight of their life. Ark and Tenn got a leg up on new kids because DM was trying to screw us by systematically dismantling the recruiting class we paid him to build. Which we actually had to force him to work harder for than any previous year by not giving him his automatic yearly raise in 2016. And after all DM's efforts (more than I think he and his staff ever gave us), he still only got a kicker (which we didn't need cause we have a great one for 3 more years) and an OLine (who we did need) who left without a backward glance even though DM waited 2 MONTHS to offer him, which shows me he was committed to DM and staff and not MSU in the first place. THAT IS A TREMENDOUS JOB! THAT DOESN'T JUST HAPPEN. And if you don't think OM and BAMA and everybody else in the SEC was after our 4* kids, too, when DM left...but we kept them. And added to it by two and I believe our new coaches got us WHOP. As far as I know he wasn't committed before signing and that was up in the air unless I am mistaken. So he should count as a new player pulled by new staff and Kilby-Lane, also. Also, keeping SWEAT was probably a recruiting job unto itself considering he was getting a new coordinator.

Yes, our OLine needs some help. But this is mostly because of DM and staff. Also, I seem to have read at least a couple national articles about Moorhead and Penn that specifically stated what a bad Oline he had (not his recruiting fault, he was only there 2 yrs) at Penn State and their offense was explosive in spite of the OLine. Because of scheme, because they are not counted on as much because there are so many options with which way the ball might go that alone keeps the defense on their heels. It may be that Oline play is not as important and may be more about bodies than stars for us. Don't know yet.

Long story long, yes I wanted to finish stronger than it looks like we are, we all did, but having said that, I am not worried about our future recruiting. And I am not INSANE for saying that and I don't need anyone to be worried about my mental health because of it (talk about an overreaction). Our situation, our head coach's situation, our new coaching staff's situation, was different from every other new coaching staff recruiting in the SEC this year. It was more difficult.

I think we are going to kick A** and take names in the SEC this year and that recruits are going to take notice. I think Moorhead is going to be talked about positively all over the country and recruits are going to notice. I think we are going to have a lot of spots to fill next year because we are going to have put a lot of guys in the NFL and recruits are going to notice. I think we are going to cover our field with Gator and Tiger blood and recruits are going to notice. I think we are going to prove that we don't need DM to be successful and recruits are going to notice. He built up this fallacy (and I will admit that I bought it) that we couldn't get high end players to come to State because State so all our success was because of him and his magical evaluation powers. There are people who believe this even now, recruits, coaches, press, fans...but really we didn't get any of those kids because he refused to recruit them. You never get turned down if you never offer and his ego wouldn't allow him to get turned down. "Shoot your shot" is not in his vocabulary (as his tight play calling in big games can attest too), that is why he jumped to FLA where recruiting is "easier" (I have my doubts about his success there, too). I think we are going to shoot our shot in recruiting and yes we are going to miss some but we are also going to hit on some we never had a shot at before. Finally, I do not think that John Cohen is ever going to let us fall back into mediocrity.

That is all. Sorry for the long post but I needed to get it out.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Since we have open scholarships, I wish we would offer Tylan Knight as a special teams specialist. He will probably sign with Ole Miss.

He will and he will make them better. If we dont offer bc our noses are up in the air about his size then we cant say anything about the OM attitude (thinking they are better than everyone for no reason)

[Cooterpoot]

He won’t touch the field beyond KR/PR. But he will eat up a scholarship.

[NCDawg]

He won’t touch the field beyond KR/PR. But he will eat up a scholarship.

Sometimes a good KR/PR can be extremely valuable. I've seen us waste a lot of scholarships on other players, such as nonathletic OL, who never see the field and remain on the bench.

[Commercecomet24]

I?m sure IYOK numbers are right if so it looks like we don?t have anymore schollies to offer.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I?m sure IYOK numbers are right if so it looks like we don?t have anymore schollies to offer.

Thats fine if we have no room. But hes worth an offer, anybody that doesnt think so go watch the tape

[Commercecomet24]

Thats fine if we have no room. But hes worth an offer, anybody that doesnt think so go watch the tape

I thought we had more room, but it looks like we out of space. I agree with you the kid looks like a baller, small or not. Heck we ran Holloway out there. I admire Holloway, we asked him to do some things better suited for bigger backs but that young man was tough as nails and made plays for us. I have an affinity for the little guys myself.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Thats fine if we have no room. But hes worth an offer, anybody that doesnt think so go watch the tape

We'll just agree to disagree.

[Cooterpoot]

Sometimes a good KR/PR can be extremely valuable. I've seen us waste a lot of scholarships on other players, such as nonathletic OL, who never see the field and remain on the bench.

You won't find guys recruited simply to return kicks. Not in the SEC and with scholarship limits like are in place now. I like the fact that OM is going to burn one on a KR. Let them be down a scholarship for that crap.

[Bdawg]

So what’s the true eval on Reed? What can he be?

[BuckyIsAB****]

You won't find guys recruited simply to return kicks. Not in the SEC and with scholarship limits like are in place now. I like the fact that OM is going to burn one on a KR. Let them be down a scholarship for that crap.

Hes a KR/PR that won MVP of the MS/AL game for having 2 INTs and multiple tackles against kids with ''D1 Size'' at OLB

[Commercecomet24]

So what’s the true eval on Reed? What can he be?

His video looks good, he seems to be physical in run support and in coverage, has good speed and decent size. Hard to trust videos because they only give you the best plays. Hopefully somebody that has seen him play in person or studied him more can give us some more info.

[Cooterpoot]

Hes a KR/PR that won MVP of the MS/AL game for having 2 INTs and multiple tackles against kids with ''D1 Size'' at OLB

And it was an all star game. A kid that went to Delta State won MVP in it one time. But you can list all of the 5'7 DBs in the SEC if you want to. Then, all the ones in the NFL. It's just not happening. I'm sure he's a good athlete and kid.

[HoopsDawg]

You won't find guys recruited simply to return kicks. Not in the SEC and with scholarship limits like are in place now. I like the fact that OM is going to burn one on a KR. Let them be down a scholarship for that crap.

Special teams is a third of the game. He could be on all of the special teams units such as punt coverage, kick coverage, returns, etc. That would be a bigger contribution than some of these late pickups will make. Steve Tasker was a pro bowler and he only played special teams. Also, we have room. There is now way we won't have attrition after the spring. I bet we end up at least 3 under the 85 number.

[Commercecomet24]

Special teams is a third of the game. He could be on all of the special teams units such as punt coverage, kick coverage, returns, etc. That would be a bigger contribution than some of these late pickups will make. Steve Tasker was a pro bowler and he only played special teams. Also, we have room. There is now way we won't have attrition after the spring. I bet we end up at least 3 under the 85 number.

I don?t know the answer to this question and maybe you or someone else can answer. Can we sign enough that would put us over the 85 scholly limit and adjust before the fall or do you have to just stay at 85 or below at all times? Thanks

[pilldawg]

David Johnson even has his CB prediction to MSU for Lovett and Reed this morning.

Yancy and David hardly ever concede this easy. Feels like they are trying for maximum impact.

[Irondawg]

I wish we could have flexed our SEC muscle a bit and tried to sway some kids from other programs to at least visit, even if it was La Tech, Central Michigan, Wake Forrest types. With the early signing period there may not have been much left there to choose from, I don't know.

Time is going to tell. We can discuss it to death after signing day and we see what we ended up with. I still think we may save 1-2 schollies for a transfer or two.

[Ari Gold]

Yancy and David hardly ever concede this easy. Feels like they are trying for maximum impact.

He has been decommitted for Almost 2 months and has been a “Umiss lean” since he decommited . How is it a flip special.?
Looks more like a recruiting win for JoeMo and staff to me if/ when he commits to the good guys

[preachermatt83]

Yancy and David hardly ever concede this easy. Feels like they are trying for maximum impact.

I've thought the very same thing.

[BuckyIsAB****]

And it was an all star game. A kid that went to Delta State won MVP in it one time. But you can list all of the 5'7 DBs in the SEC if you want to. Then, all the ones in the NFL. It's just not happening. I'm sure he's a good athlete and kid.

You can dismiss it if you want, those were big time recruits from Alabama he was beating up on and I've seen him for 4 years he was just as good as Murphy was for West Point and folks on here say he should be a 5 star. I find that funny

[msstate7]

You can dismiss it if you want, those were big time recruits from Alabama he was beating up on and I've seen him for 4 years he was just as good as Murphy was for West Point and folks on here say he should be a 5 star. I find that funny

I have not seen this kid, but he is gushed over on this board. With all the high praise from everyone on here and the special teams idea of hoops, you guys have sold me on taking a chance. If we are gonna reach, reach on a kid that was a difference maker in HS

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I have not seen this kid, but he is gushed over on this board. With all the high praise from everyone on here and the special teams idea of hoops, you guys have sold me on taking a chance. If we are gonna reach, reach on a kid that was a difference maker in HS

I don't know, this staff has certainly taken a look at him by now and if they decide he's not SEC worthy vs the names that do pop up as targets, I think you have to trust their evaluation of the kid. HS ball is very different than college... he may dominate in HS because he's already near his ceiling as far as speed/strength/fundamentals go, but once those other guys have time to catch up in those areas he'd be behind them. Like I say I don't know but you have to say that if we've missed on so many recruits and this staff still doesn't want him, then he's probably not a SEC player

[msstate7]

Latest on Robinson?

Checking out his profile, I see he is a .79 rated player. He is still the 6th best player in his state. The state of Kansas has 1 composite 4*. That is crazy to me. What Kansas state has accomplished is really impressive with that lack of in-state HS talent

[Ari Gold]

You can dismiss it if you want, those were big time recruits from Alabama he was beating up on and I've seen him for 4 years he was just as good as Murphy was for West Point and folks on here say he should be a 5 star. I find that funny

To say Knight is just as good as Murphy is ****ing absurd.

[Homedawg]

You can dismiss it if you want, those were big time recruits from Alabama he was beating up on and I've seen him for 4 years he was just as good as Murphy was for West Point and folks on here say he should be a 5 star. I find that funny

Nobody is saying he wasn't as good for Pearl, but this isn't Pearl. He guy has no position. But time will get to prove you right or wrong. You point has been made. Let it go.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Nobody is saying he wasn't as good for Pearl, but this isn't Pearl. He guy has no position. But time will get to prove you right or wrong. You point has been made. Let it go.

Fair enough

[BuckyIsAB****]

To say Knight is just as good as Murphy is ****ing absurd.

Turn on the tape and tell me there is any difference except Murphy is taller.

Both played both ways, both made plays on both sides, both even ran the wildcat at QB and you couldnt stop them.

[Johnson85]

I don?t know the answer to this question and maybe you or someone else can answer. Can we sign enough that would put us over the 85 scholly limit and adjust before the fall or do you have to just stay at 85 or below at all times? Thanks

Pretty sure the scholarships don't count until they're enrolled and on scholarship. So if you don't have more than 85 players between those on scholarship in the spring (withtveligibility remianig) and signees, you're usually not going to have 85 scholarship players in the fall.

[pilldawg]

He has been decommitted for Almost 2 months and has been a ?Umiss lean? since he decommited . How is it a flip special.?
Looks more like a recruiting win for JoeMo and staff to me if/ when he commits to the good guys

which is what makes me uneasy. I am most likely wrong and will be glad when I am for sure. This just has my radar up based on past Ole Miss shenanigans and of course them wanting to get us back for Jeffrey Simmons.

[yjnkdawg]

I don?t know the answer to this question and maybe you or someone else can answer. Can we sign enough that would put us over the 85 scholly limit and adjust before the fall or do you have to just stay at 85 or below at all times? Thanks


The NCAA rule says you can not have over 85 players on scholarship. So as long as they aren't enrolled, then they shouldn't be counted toward the 85 limit. If you have attrition during the year, the only way you can make up for those losses is through transfers from other schools, or you could give a walk-on player a scholarship, after his second year (I believe this is still in effect). These two options would not count against the up to the 25 max that you can sign each year.

[shrimp]

Special teams is a third of the game. He could be on all of the special teams units such as punt coverage, kick coverage, returns, etc. That would be a bigger contribution than some of these late pickups will make. Steve Tasker was a pro bowler and he only played special teams. Also, we have room. There is now way we won't have attrition after the spring. I bet we end up at least 3 under the 85 number.

If gonna reach on someone like this late, I'd rather go get Tony Brown from East Central.

[preachermatt83]

You can dismiss it if you want, those were big time recruits from Alabama he was beating up on and I've seen him for 4 years he was just as good as Murphy was for West Point and folks on here say he should be a 5 star. I find that funny

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[preachermatt83]

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[BuckyIsAB****]

Oh yea....HA!

That was really cute

[Commercecomet24]

The NCAA rule says you can not have over 85 players on scholarship. So as long as they aren't enrolled, then they shouldn't be counted toward the 85 limit. If you have attrition during the year, the only way you can make up for those losses is through transfers from other schools, or you could give a walk-on player a scholarship, after his second year (I believe this is still in effect). These two options would not count against the up to the 25 max that you can sign each year.

Appreciate that. Very succinct. Thank you!

[yjnkdawg]

which is what makes me uneasy. I am most likely wrong and will be glad when I am for sure. This just has my radar up based on past Ole Miss shenanigans and of course them wanting to get us back for Jeffrey Simmons.


I think Luke is more concerned right now on trying to get players signed next Wednesday, than orchestrating some type of hat circus, like I'm pretty sure that Freeze initiated. Luke may have been involved in one or so during Freeze's tenure as HC, but I think those were instigated by Freeze. Of course you never know what that bunch will do.

[yjnkdawg]

Appreciate that. Very succinct. Thank you!


You're welcome

[Cooterpoot]

You can dismiss it if you want, those were big time recruits from Alabama he was beating up on and I've seen him for 4 years he was just as good as Murphy was for West Point and folks on here say he should be a 5 star. I find that funny

Im sorry we disagree with your opinion Mr. Knight. Your son is a nice player. Hope he gets laid at OM this weekend. Tell him to use protection.

[Commercecomet24]

I think Luke is more concerned right now on trying to get players signed next Wednesday, than orchestrating some type of hat circus, like I'm pretty sure that Freeze initiated. Luke may have been involved in one or so during Freeze's tenure as HC, but I think those were instigated by Freeze. Of course you never know what that bunch will do.

Agreed

[Irondawg]

So I was just dabbling around the 24/7 rankings and while i know each coaching staff makes their own evaluations, i just find it a bit baffling, we couldn't even get a sniff out of some of these guys while some other similar situated (and sometimes worse) could at least get them in for a visit:

https://247sports.com/Player/JaKorey-Hawkins-88559

https://247sports.com/Player/Kendrick-Torain-91834

https://247sports.com/Player/Nick-Lewis-46039669

https://247sports.com/Player/Ken-Montgomery-Jr-87162

https://247sports.com/Player/Joshua-Ezeudu-46036695

https://247sports.com/Player/Taiyon-Palmer-75803

https://247sports.com/Player/Dylan-Wonnum-86643

https://247sports.com/Player/Justin-Johnson-86180

https://247sports.com/Player/Tank-Jenkins-80809

i know on tank he wasn't receptive earlier but OM managed to get a visit and he takes talks from A&M

[Goldendawg]

I think Luke is more concerned right now on trying to get players signed next Wednesday, than orchestrating some type of hat circus, like I'm pretty sure that Freeze initiated. Luke may have been involved in one or so during Freeze's tenure as HC, but I think those were instigated by Freeze. Of course you never know what that bunch will do.

With their "Mississippi Made" billboard campaign ( wonder where they got the billboard idea?), they will be going all in again to sign Mississippi players in the 2019 class, especially since they only have about 6 guys from Mississippi in their 2018 class. Their overall lack of players from Ms. on their roster now (see out of state mercenarie$ ) makes this campaign look somewhat a sham. We will have to fight them for every good in-state player. They have no fear of the NCAA (why should they?), and believe that they will win their appeal of the year two bowl ban. As per Bjerk's voodoo math, their % of out of control boosters is very small when compared to their "tens of thousands" of fans/supporters/good boosters.

[Goldendawg]

So I was just dabbling around the 24/7 rankings and while i know each coaching staff makes their own evaluations, i just find it a bit baffling, we couldn't even get a sniff out of some of these guys while some other similar situated (and sometimes worse) could at least get them in for a visit:

https://247sports.com/Player/JaKorey-Hawkins-88559

https://247sports.com/Player/Kendrick-Torain-91834

https://247sports.com/Player/Nick-Lewis-46039669

https://247sports.com/Player/Ken-Montgomery-Jr-87162

https://247sports.com/Player/Joshua-Ezeudu-46036695

https://247sports.com/Player/Taiyon-Palmer-75803

https://247sports.com/Player/Dylan-Wonnum-86643

https://247sports.com/Player/Justin-Johnson-86180

https://247sports.com/Player/Tank-Jenkins-80809

i know on tank he wasn't receptive earlier but OM managed to get a visit and he takes talks from A&M

The Network is back helping with visit$.

[Bothrops]

So I was just dabbling around the 24/7 rankings and while i know each coaching staff makes their own evaluations, i just find it a bit baffling, we couldn't even get a sniff out of some of these guys while some other similar situated (and sometimes worse) could at least get them in for a visit:

https://247sports.com/Player/JaKorey-Hawkins-88559

https://247sports.com/Player/Kendrick-Torain-91834

https://247sports.com/Player/Nick-Lewis-46039669

https://247sports.com/Player/Ken-Montgomery-Jr-87162

https://247sports.com/Player/Joshua-Ezeudu-46036695

https://247sports.com/Player/Taiyon-Palmer-75803

https://247sports.com/Player/Dylan-Wonnum-86643

https://247sports.com/Player/Justin-Johnson-86180

https://247sports.com/Player/Tank-Jenkins-80809

i know on tank he wasn't receptive earlier but OM managed to get a visit and he takes talks from A&M

This is good research, and I tend to agree. These aren't the only ones either. It's obvious that our guys have been busy setting up shop and concentrating on our verbal commits. It's a hell of a lot to take on.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Im sorry we disagree with your opinion Mr. Knight. Your son is a nice player. Hope he gets laid at OM this weekend. Tell him to use protection.

Clever girl

[Coach007]

So Sampson is in for a visit? I thought we backed off him?

[msstate7]

So Sampson is in for a visit? I thought we backed off him?

It is obvious we want to take a shot at him. Was he Nassar assistant or something?** No one wants to touch him

[msstate7]

Where is Antonio Nelson going now that he dropped Florida or Florida dropped him? I would call

Since we scrambling some on the oline, why not take a chance on Willie Allen? Like Kirby-lane, Allen was very highly thought of out of HS

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So Sampson is in for a visit? I thought we backed off him?

Where did you see that?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Where is Antonio Nelson going now that he dropped Florida or Florida dropped him? I would call

Since we scrambling some on the oline, why not take a chance on Willie Allen? Like Kirby-lane, Allen was very highly thought of out of HS

We need some young corners to replenish the cornerback room not a juco who's not a difference maker.

Willie Allen has proven in the SEC & in juco he's not a SEC caliber player. That ranking in HS was wrong. If we're going to take a project I'd rather a HS kid who you maybe can mold instead of a kid who's shown you on 2 levels he wasn't the answer.

[Doggie_Style]

Where did you see that?

Anybody got a list of weekend visitors?

[msstate7]

Where did you see that?

Knowing my man, coach... I guess on a far right news outlet haha

Not there is anything wrong with reading far right news or far left for that matter

[shrimp]

Anybody got a list of weekend visitors?

Jaylon Reed is in Starkvegas. Did not go to Colorado State as previously planned. Kameron Jones and Cameron Young also on campus. Brule expected to be there this morning, along with Jalan Robinson.

[Coach007]

Where did you see that?

https://247sports.com/player/tyrone-sampson-jr-81696

According to this he is on his official.

But, like I said..... I thought we had backed off in a major way.

[Coach007]

Knowing my man, coach... I guess on a far right news outlet haha

Not there is anything wrong with reading far right news or far left for that matter

:cool:

Trump told me! HAHAHA

[Turfdawg67]

https://247sports.com/player/tyrone-sampson-jr-81696

According to this he is on his official.

But, like I said..... I thought we had backed off in a major way.

Where?? It's nowhere on that page at all. I'd say this post is fake news.

https://s18.postimg.org/qtlram721/IMG_0399.jpg

[Turfdawg67]

After exhausting research (2 minute Google search) the only negative thing out there is his grades. If that's the case and he's willing to come, sign and place him. We could use a 4* OL in a couple years.

[Cooterpoot]

Going to see lots of new offers for younger recruits this week. The staff is everywhere.

[MetEdDawg]

Going to see lots of new offers for younger recruits this week. The staff is everywhere.

Exactly what we need to do. 2019 is important. If we can get a Top 15 class next year we could potentially make up for a couple misses this year. Moorhead has a great start on next years class and we?ve got a couple big time commits already to build around.

I trust Moorhead and he?s been putting in a lot of work for the 2019 class.

[Commercecomet24]

Going to see lots of new offers for younger recruits this week. The staff is everywhere.

Yes they are! Glad to see someone else is noticing this. They are grinding!

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Going to see lots of new offers for younger recruits this week. The staff is everywhere.

I know I'm used to Mullen's recruiting style, but with the number of MS players in 2019, is casting a national net a good idea?

[vv83]

I know I'm used to Mullen's recruiting style, but with the number of MS players in 2019, is casting a national net a good idea?

I think as long as you have the resources, yes. But I agree with you MS needs to be the priority

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I know I'm used to Mullen's recruiting style, but with the number of MS players in 2019, is casting a national net a good idea?

Here's the thing when you make recruiting a priority you can do both.

[Cooterpoot]

I know I'm used to Mullen's recruiting style, but with the number of MS players in 2019, is casting a national net a good idea?

Who said anything about 2019?

[msstate7]

Here's the thing when you make recruiting a priority you can do both.

Has there been word on who recruits what region?

[Commercecomet24]

Here's the thing when you make recruiting a priority you can do both.

Yep. Other programs do it so why not us.

[MetEdDawg]

Here's the thing when you make recruiting a priority you can do both.

This. Too many people want to stay home and recruit that 4 hour radius. Truth is that just plain can’t win you a national title because there aren’t enough good players to go around within a 4 hour radius. Too many schools fighting for kids in this area.

We will always get our share of local kids, but like you said, if you dedicate the resources and do it properly you can get kids to come to your university from further away. This staff is built to do that because one of the ways you get it done is by having guys with NFL experience on your staff. We’ve got some of that. Got a variety of backgrounds. And according to alumni, former players are playing a bit more of an active role with the university. All that together makes for a brand on the verge of expanding its reach.

[msbulldog]

Here's what I don't get. Everyone saying Ark and Tenn staff coming in and recruiting harder and having better success under the same circumstances as us. No, they are not the same circumstances. Ark coach brought his entire offensive staff with him. So already had coaches familiar with him, what he wanted to do and how he wanted it done. Tennessee, yes had to hire new staff also, so similar, but with a new head coach that just came off a National Championship win with Bama (might be a strong selling point) and regardless of what Tennessee has become in the last 10 years, they still have much better name recognition than ours and better history. BUT (and it's a big one) neither of those coaches had to deal with their predecessor (a popular and successful coach, who had moved to a top 10 athletic program) recruiting their already committed players away from them. All those guys had to concentrate on was finding new recruits to fill out their classes. They didn't have to fight off the previous coach who had recruited all their current kids to start with. Who had a head start of trust and on field success going back months and even years. I can only imagine the kind of effort it took to keep all the guys we did with "he who shall not be named" up in their houses doing the gator chomp within a week after he left here. Our staff couldn't concentrate on what might happen after early signing cause they were in the fight of their life. Ark and Tenn got a leg up on new kids because DM was trying to screw us by systematically dismantling the recruiting class we paid him to build. Which we actually had to force him to work harder for than any previous year by not giving him his automatic yearly raise in 2016. And after all DM's efforts (more than I think he and his staff ever gave us), he still only got a kicker (which we didn't need cause we have a great one for 3 more years) and an OLine (who we did need) who left without a backward glance even though DM waited 2 MONTHS to offer him, which shows me he was committed to DM and staff and not MSU in the first place. THAT IS A TREMENDOUS JOB! THAT DOESN'T JUST HAPPEN. And if you don't think OM and BAMA and everybody else in the SEC was after our 4* kids, too, when DM left...but we kept them. And added to it by two and I believe our new coaches got us WHOP. As far as I know he wasn't committed before signing and that was up in the air unless I am mistaken. So he should count as a new player pulled by new staff and Kilby-Lane, also. Also, keeping SWEAT was probably a recruiting job unto itself considering he was getting a new coordinator.

Yes, our OLine needs some help. But this is mostly because of DM and staff. Also, I seem to have read at least a couple national articles about Moorhead and Penn that specifically stated what a bad Oline he had (not his recruiting fault, he was only there 2 yrs) at Penn State and their offense was explosive in spite of the OLine. Because of scheme, because they are not counted on as much because there are so many options with which way the ball might go that alone keeps the defense on their heels. It may be that Oline play is not as important and may be more about bodies than stars for us. Don't know yet.

Long story long, yes I wanted to finish stronger than it looks like we are, we all did, but having said that, I am not worried about our future recruiting. And I am not INSANE for saying that and I don't need anyone to be worried about my mental health because of it (talk about an overreaction). Our situation, our head coach's situation, our new coaching staff's situation, was different from every other new coaching staff recruiting in the SEC this year. It was more difficult.

I think we are going to kick A** and take names in the SEC this year and that recruits are going to take notice. I think Moorhead is going to be talked about positively all over the country and recruits are going to notice. I think we are going to have a lot of spots to fill next year because we are going to have put a lot of guys in the NFL and recruits are going to notice. I think we are going to cover our field with Gator and Tiger blood and recruits are going to notice. I think we are going to prove that we don't need DM to be successful and recruits are going to notice. He built up this fallacy (and I will admit that I bought it) that we couldn't get high end players to come to State because State so all our success was because of him and his magical evaluation powers. There are people who believe this even now, recruits, coaches, press, fans...but really we didn't get any of those kids because he refused to recruit them. You never get turned down if you never offer and his ego wouldn't allow him to get turned down. "Shoot your shot" is not in his vocabulary (as his tight play calling in big games can attest too), that is why he jumped to FLA where recruiting is "easier" (I have my doubts about his success there, too). I think we are going to shoot our shot in recruiting and yes we are going to miss some but we are also going to hit on some we never had a shot at before. Finally, I do not think that John Cohen is ever going to let us fall back into mediocrity.

That is all. Sorry for the long post but I needed to get it out.

Tell it girl!

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I know I'm used to Mullen's recruiting style, but with the number of MS players in 2019, is casting a national net a good idea?

According to 247, there are 12 4*s in state. 8 are uncommitted. let's say OM buys 2, Bama gets 2, LSU/auburn/Whoever gets one, that leaves us with 3 to go with our 2 committed. I want more than 5 4*s, that's what we have in this class. How much farther than MS do we need to go? That i can't answer, we may be able to poach a few from LA and AL and have the best class ever. But my point is that you have to go elsewhere, as MS being loaded does not mean we will get all the talent we want. And make no mistake, Saban will get his, OM will find a couple guys that can be bought, and one guy just won't want to play for us no matter what.

Louisiana has 3 5* and 10 4s, AL has 2 5s and 13 4s... hopefully LSU gets caught up with their state and we can continue to snag a 4 from them. I am worried about Bama and Auburn though- they don't have enough talent to go around so will definitely be in MS. But if LSU falls apart (and we all know they might) then there could be a feeding frenzy over LA. That's the best possible situation for us, in my opinion

[Leeshouldveflanked]

O Lord what we gonna do......

[Bothrops]

MS gonna get raided for 2019, and even then, half the guys we get are going to be reduced in rank. It is virtually impossible for MSU to sign a top #15 class.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

MS gonna get raided for 2019, and even then, half the guys we get are going to be reduced in rank. It is virtually impossible for MSU to sign a top #15 class.
It is impossible if we recruit like the previous staff....The state of Georgia has 45 4 star or better players, which is more than the states of MS, Alabama and LA combined.....

[Commercecomet24]

It is impossible if we recruit like the previous staff....The state of Georgia has 45 4 star or better players, which is more than the states of MS, Alabama and LA combined.....

Yep and this staff is going to recruit totally different than the last staff.

[MaroonBelle]

Tell it girl!

Thank u for acknowledging my post. I am speaking it into existence.

[Homedawg]

Yep and this staff is going to recruit totally different than the last staff.

I hope we get a top 15 class. However, if that's what your hopes are, just be careful. I agree it's reallly tough for us to get a top 15 class. Really really tough.

[Commercecomet24]

I hope we get a top 15 class. However, if that's what your hopes are, just be careful. I agree it's reallly tough for us to get a top 15 class. Really really tough.

Oh I agree. I have realistic expectations. I?m just thinking we may see some kids coming from other areas of the country. I hear Joe likes the OLs from the Midwest. I just believe he?s gonna be more relentless in recruiting than we have seen.

[Todd4State]

Oh I agree. I have realistic expectations. I?m just thinking we may see some kids coming from other areas of the country. I hear Joe likes the OLs from the Midwest. I just believe he?s gonna be more relentless in recruiting than we have seen.

I think the strategy is going to be see what is in Mississippi and try to land the very best in state first. After that go national.

My guess is our realistic range in recruiting rankings is in the 15-20 range. Dan was usually somewhere in the 20's. Which probably would have been in the 15-20 range if he didn't pool so many scholarships and signed some o-linemen.

[Commercecomet24]

I think the strategy is going to be see what is in Mississippi and try to land the very best in state first. After that go national.

My guess is our realistic range in recruiting rankings is in the 15-20 range. Dan was usually somewhere in the 20's. Which probably would have been in the 15-20 range if he didn't pool so many scholarships and signed some o-linemen.

Yep that?s what I?ve heard. We want the best players in Mississippi and then to take the best available from wherever we can get them regardless of geography. It?s gonna be different than what we are used to. Personally I?ll be glad to see us be more aggressive.

[yjnkdawg]

Here's the thing when you make recruiting a priority you can do both.


I agree, but why didn't you do that when you were our HC? (grins)

[yjnkdawg]

It is impossible if we recruit like the previous staff....The state of Georgia has 45 4 star or better players, which is more than the states of MS, Alabama and LA combined.....


Some of the previous staff didn't even know what recruiting was. It definitely wasn't "relentless effort" in recruiting.

[Todd4State]

Some of the previous staff didn't even know what recruiting was. It definitely wasn't "relentless effort" in recruiting.

Hey! You try training for a marathon and buying fancy tennis shoes while recruiting.**

Joe is all in on coaching football and MSU. And that includes recruiting too.

[Commercecomet24]

Hey! You try training for a marathon and buying fancy tennis shoes while recruiting.**

Joe is all in on coaching football and MSU. And that includes recruiting too.

Excellent!

[msstate7]

Any good news this weekend?

[yjnkdawg]

Any good news this weekend?


Well Brule is still in the mix, so that 0-4 ARK info never materialized. Did it?

[msstate7]

Well Brule is still in the mix, so that 0-4 ARK info never materialized. Did it?

So brule to state?

[yjnkdawg]

Hey! You try training for a marathon and buying fancy tennis shoes while recruiting.**

Joe is all in on coaching football and MSU. And that includes recruiting too.


I like JoeMo's priorities. .....................................I guess some coaches just have to make a fashion statement when they are running in a marathon or go to Orlando to buy groceries.***

[tcdog70]

Latest on Robinson?

Checking out his profile, I see he is a .79 rated player. He is still the 6th best player in his state. The state of Kansas has 1 composite 4*. That is crazy to me. What Kansas state has accomplished is really impressive with that lack of in-state HS talent

They have done it with Jucos. Heavy into them.

[Doggie_Style]

Any good news this weekend?

No great news that?s for sure...we are still in the hunt for Brule and Lovett but Lovett really liked Florida. He said the academic facilities were much better there and he would be comfortable going there. I don?t think we can get our hopes up for Wednesday.....the real test is 2019

[ShotgunDawg]

No great news that?s for sure...we are still in the hunt for Brule and Lovett but Lovett really liked Florida. He said the academic facilities were much better there and he would be comfortable going there. I don?t think we can get our hopes up for Wednesday.....the real test is 2019

Lovett ain’t going to Florida dude

[yjnkdawg]

So brule to state?


I highly doubt that anyone is going to say where he is going right now. Different people have diffirent ideas, and some have more information than others, but I imagine if a decision has been made for certain it would be his family that knows right now. If somebody posted that he was going to MSU now, it probably would be like Shotgun's breaking news that he was committing to ARK the other night, with no factual information to substantiate that he was. It would have sounded more intelligent if he had said he heard or he thinks, but to say 0-4 to ARK was uncalled for and then some of ya'll run with this and go ballisitc in major meltdown mode. All I was saying was that he didn't committ to ARK the other night, and MSU is still in the picture. Let's just see how it plays out on signing day before we hold up the white flag.

[yjnkdawg]

No great news that?s for sure...we are still in the hunt for Brule and Lovett but Lovett really liked Florida. He said the academic facilities were much better there and he would be comfortable going there. I don?t think we can get our hopes up for Wednesday.....the real test is 2019


I think people normally visit FL for vacation or fun. I believe this would be the case in this situation. Well, we aren't getting Eddie Smith unless Bama loses his fax number, but otherwise the sky is not necessarily falling, so let's just see how it plays out.

[Commercecomet24]

Lovett ain’t going to Florida dude

Yeah I don?t see him going to uf. Be us or unm. Sounds like we are in good shape with him though.

[maroonmania]

No great news that?s for sure...we are still in the hunt for Brule and Lovett but Lovett really liked Florida. He said the academic facilities were much better there and he would be comfortable going there. I don?t think we can get our hopes up for Wednesday.....the real test is 2019

Agree that the real test is in 2019 but we have to get more than 15 SEC worthy players out of this class so what happens Wednesday is still a big deal. Like I've said before, overall I really like JoMo and for the most part this staff, however, the one red flag to me is how little of a bump we seem to be getting on these official visits. On the surface we don't seem to be making a significant impression on a lot of these guys based on the vibe I'm getting from their reactions afterward.

[bulldawg28]

I think people normally visit FL for vacation or fun. I believe this would be the case in this situation. Well, we aren't getting Eddie Smith unless Bama loses his fax number, but otherwise the sky is not necessarily falling, so let's just see how it plays out.

The fact that Smith hasn't committed to Bama makes me think he's still on the back-up board. They've done this plenty off times.

[Bothrops]

Agree that the real test is in 2019 but we have to get more than 15 SEC worthy players out of this class so what happens Wednesday is still a big deal. Like I've said before, overall I really like JoMo and for the most part this staff, however, the one red flag to me is how little of a bump we seem to be getting on these official visits. On the surface we don't seem to be making a significant impression on a lot of these guys based on the vibe I'm getting from their reactions afterward.

Why? Do we have the atmosphere of a funeral home?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Brule is saying all the right things. We'll see if we can keep those feelings for 3 days. Lovett isn't going to Florida. Feel good about him being at MSU. Reed will be at MSU. Now we neee to sign 2 OL out of Jalan Robinson, Cameron Young, or Kameron Jones.

[Bothrops]

The fact that Smith hasn't committed to Bama makes me think he's still on the back-up board. They've done this plenty off times.

Saban could offer him a grayshirt and he'd go.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Saban could offer him a grayshirt and he'd go.

No he wouldn't & he's said since December he wasn't announcing until signing day. Him not committing yet has 0 to do with whether he has an offer or not. He does.

[msstate7]

No he wouldn't & he's said since December he wasn't announcing until signing day. Him not committing yet has 0 to do with whether he has an offer or not. He does.

How does LSU not offer this kid? Seems crazy that us, tenn, and even bama are fighting over this kid while LSU does not even show interest. Is bama reaching here? I am not running down the kid bc I obviously very much want him... just seems no LSU offer makes smith seem like a non-typical bama recruit

[maroonmania]

No he wouldn't & he's said since December he wasn't announcing until signing day. Him not committing yet has 0 to do with whether he has an offer or not. He does.
You are saying he does have a firm Bama offer? He obviously has an offer from us.

[bulldawg28]

How does LSU not offer this kid? Seems crazy that us, tenn, and even bama are fighting over this kid while LSU does not even show interest. Is bama reaching here? I am not running down the kid bc I obviously very much want him... just seems no LSU offer makes smith seem like a non-typical bama recruit

LSU has signed the number of corners they need last year. They're holding a spot for Surtain if he wants to come.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

You are saying he does have a firm Bama offer? He obviously has an offer from us.

Yes

[yjnkdawg]

How does LSU not offer this kid? Seems crazy that us, tenn, and even bama are fighting over this kid while LSU does not even show interest. Is bama reaching here? I am not running down the kid bc I obviously very much want him... just seems no LSU offer makes smith seem like a non-typical bama recruit


Maybe it's because LSU is looking to sign and probably should sign a 5* out of FL. Who is rated as the No. 1 prospect at CB in the country, and the 6th player overall.. They have no other CBs as targets. Maybe their recruiting is based upon needs?

[msstate7]

Delete

[Bothrops]

Yes

I thought he was #2 or #3 on their board.

[msstate7]

Does not look like bama will get surtain, Campbell, or griffin though.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I thought he was #2 or #3 on their board.

It wasn't a coincidence all those CB came in on 247 at the same time. Everybody found out he got a firm offer then & he committed.

[Commercecomet24]

Brule is saying all the right things. We'll see if we can keep those feelings for 3 days. Lovett isn't going to Florida. Feel good about him being at MSU. Reed will be at MSU. Now we neee to sign 2 OL out of Jalan Robinson, Cameron Young, or Kameron Jones.

That would be a solid group. Are you also counting on us signing Watson, Furdge and Patterson to go along with those you just mentioned? If so that?s a pretty good finish

[Ifyouonlyknew]

That would be a solid group. Are you also counting on us signing Watson, Furdge and Patterson to go along with those you just mentioned? If so that?s a pretty good finish

Yes

[Commercecomet24]

Yes

Appreciate it. If we sign those that?s a solid finish. Really good class with what we signed in December

[bulldawg28]

It wasn't a coincidence all those CB came in on 247 at the same time. Everybody found out he got a firm offer then & he committed.

So he's a silent commit? Saban is playing him

[MetEdDawg]

So he's a silent commit? Saban is playing him

They always orchestrate a big signing day. He will probably commit to them on signing day, especially this year when they have been outdone by a couple other programs like UGA. They need the signing day publicity.

[Bully13]

That would be a solid group. Are you also counting on us signing Watson, Furdge and Patterson to go along with those you just mentioned? If so that?s a pretty good finish

Outside of dolla bill, our OL class looks sucky.

[Commercecomet24]

Outside of dolla bill, our OL class looks sucky.

Oh I agree it could be better for sure. However you never know with OL. We have had multiple 2 stars become good OLs and 4 Star busts. Of course you want to get the most talented for sure. At this point though sign em and see.

Can?t miss in ?19 though. Gotta have a good OL class for sure next year.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So he's a silent commit? Saban is playing him

We'll agree to disagree.

[civildawg]

Two back to back terrible OL classes will have us going 5-7 again in a couple of years. We need to hit on the 2019 croots and juco hard in the next couple of years. I would try like heck to get some transfers in also. I wonder if there is any chance we could get lashley back if he continues to sit at Bama

[MetEdDawg]

Two back to back terrible OL classes will have us going 5-7 again in a couple of years. We need to hit on the 2019 croots and juco hard in the next couple of years. I would try like heck to get some transfers in also. I wonder if there is any chance we could get lashley back if he continues to sit at Bama

There’s no way in hell Bama would let him transfer here. And if you follow social media Moorhead and staff are hitting 2019 hard. We will see the fruits of his labor pan out in a solid class

[msstate7]

There’s no way in hell Bama would let him transfer here. And if you follow social media Moorhead and staff are hitting 2019 hard. We will see the fruits of his labor pan out in a solid class

If he graduates, he can transfer where he wants. With that said, he is not coming here. That is over

[bulldawg28]

We'll agree to disagree.

He very well could. I know Saban has been known to do this before. He did it with my friend's son.

[bulldawg28]

They always orchestrate a big signing day. He will probably commit to them on signing day, especially this year when they have been outdone by a couple other programs like UGA. They need the signing day publicity.

Georgia is beating them big time in recruiting. Bama will still find a way via sports writers to win. The Bama bump star rating is real!

[Barking 13]

I am so ready for this $h!+ to be over with and spring practice starts....... I can't believe grown men are so enthralled at what a 18 year old kid is gonna do. Can we not just let CJM and staff figure this stuff out? I think they have been in the game long enough to know what their needs are for our team and how to manage the roster as they see fit, instead of a bunch of internet heroes that spend all day looking at croot porn.

Just let this play out and be thankful for what we have.... Big news, we're not Bama, GA, AU, LSU, and have our own difficulties. We're not Po' Ol Tate anymore, but it's a lot different to get a kid to come to Starkvegas than it is to Tuscaloosa. At least this staff is NOT the previous administration and probably will go about it differently altogether.
Quit melting, guys.....

[Bully13]

I am so ready for this $h!+ to be over with and spring practice starts....... I can't believe grown men are so enthralled at what a 18 year old kid is gonna do. Can we not just let CJM and staff figure this stuff out? I think they have been in the game long enough to know what their needs are for our team and how to manage the roster as they see fit, instead of a bunch of internet heroes that spend all day looking at croot porn.

Just let this play out and be thankful for what we have.... Big news, we're not Bama, GA, AU, LSU, and have our own difficulties. We're not Po' Ol Tate anymore, but it's a lot different to get a kid to come to Starkvegas than it is to Tuscaloosa. At least this staff is NOT the previous administration and probably will go about it differently altogether.
Quit melting, guys.....

No. (Sorry tusk)

[msstate7]

I am so ready for this $h!+ to be over with and spring practice starts....... I can't believe grown men are so enthralled at what a 18 year old kid is gonna do. Can we not just let CJM and staff figure this stuff out? I think they have been in the game long enough to know what their needs are for our team and how to manage the roster as they see fit, instead of a bunch of internet heroes that spend all day looking at croot porn.

Just let this play out and be thankful for what we have.... Big news, we're not Bama, GA, AU, LSU, and have our own difficulties. We're not Po' Ol Tate anymore, but it's a lot different to get a kid to come to Starkvegas than it is to Tuscaloosa. At least this staff is NOT the previous administration and probably will go about it differently altogether.
Quit melting, guys.....

When fans stop caring about a very important aspect of our football program, it is only a matter of time till they quit caring about football altogether. The most successful programs all have a crap loads of fans that eat and sleep recruiting bc it is the lifeblood of a program. You know who does not care about football recruiting? The vandys of the world

[HoopsDawg]

I am so ready for this $h!+ to be over with and spring practice starts....... I can't believe grown men are so enthralled at what a 18 year old kid is gonna do. Can we not just let CJM and staff figure this stuff out? I think they have been in the game long enough to know what their needs are for our team and how to manage the roster as they see fit, instead of a bunch of internet heroes that spend all day looking at croot porn.

Just let this play out and be thankful for what we have.... Big news, we're not Bama, GA, AU, LSU, and have our own difficulties. We're not Po' Ol Tate anymore, but it's a lot different to get a kid to come to Starkvegas than it is to Tuscaloosa. At least this staff is NOT the previous administration and probably will go about it differently altogether.
Quit melting, guys.....

Why are you in the recruiting thread?

[vv83]

I am so ready for this $h!+ to be over with and spring practice starts....... I can't believe grown men are so enthralled at what a 18 year old kid is gonna do. Can we not just let CJM and staff figure this stuff out? I think they have been in the game long enough to know what their needs are for our team and how to manage the roster as they see fit, instead of a bunch of internet heroes that spend all day looking at croot porn.

Just let this play out and be thankful for what we have.... Big news, we're not Bama, GA, AU, LSU, and have our own difficulties. We're not Po' Ol Tate anymore, but it's a lot different to get a kid to come to Starkvegas than it is to Tuscaloosa. At least this staff is NOT the previous administration and probably will go about it differently altogether.
Quit melting, guys.....

There’s literally zero reason for you to be commenting in this thread then ...?

[HoopsDawg]

Brule is saying all the right things. We'll see if we can keep those feelings for 3 days. Lovett isn't going to Florida. Feel good about him being at MSU. Reed will be at MSU. Now we neee to sign 2 OL out of Jalan Robinson, Cameron Young, or Kameron Jones.

Sounds like we are recruiting Young as a D-linemen. And we didn't give Young or Jones committable offers. Strange.

[maroonmania]

I am so ready for this $h!+ to be over with and spring practice starts....... I can't believe grown men are so enthralled at what a 18 year old kid is gonna do. Can we not just let CJM and staff figure this stuff out? I think they have been in the game long enough to know what their needs are for our team and how to manage the roster as they see fit, instead of a bunch of internet heroes that spend all day looking at croot porn.

Just let this play out and be thankful for what we have.... Big news, we're not Bama, GA, AU, LSU, and have our own difficulties. We're not Po' Ol Tate anymore, but it's a lot different to get a kid to come to Starkvegas than it is to Tuscaloosa. At least this staff is NOT the previous administration and probably will go about it differently altogether.
Quit melting, guys.....

First, I reiterate the question about why in the heck you even opened up a recruiting thread? Please go spend your time somewhere else if you are not interested in how our current recruiting is going. Second, JoMo and staff have only been on the job less than 2 months so I really don't know at this point what they have figured out with regards to recruiting in the South and what our needs are and what they don't. Third, can we PLEASE retire the word melt or melting? If I read that in one more post I am going to literally throw up. Sometimes I think we have more sunshine pumpers on this board than Genespage ever had.

[msstate7]

Sounds like we are recruiting Young as a D-linemen. And we didn't give Young or Jones committable offers. Strange.

Maybe we are gonna hit the graduate transfer waiver wire big time this offseason. I would love this approach bc I think we have potential to have a special year

[TALL DAWG]

Maybe we are gonna hit the graduate transfer waiver wire big time this offseason. I would love this approach bc I think we have potential to have a special year

Can someone explain how graduate transfers are identified?
Someone needs to come up with a www.gradtransfers.com site!

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Can someone explain how graduate transfers are identified?
Someone needs to come up with a www.gradtransfers.com site!

It says, "This site can?t be reached...."*****

[HoopsDawg]

Brule is saying all the right things. We'll see if we can keep those feelings for 3 days. Lovett isn't going to Florida. Feel good about him being at MSU. Reed will be at MSU. Now we neee to sign 2 OL out of Jalan Robinson, Cameron Young, or Kameron Jones.

Who do you think is higher on the board, Young or Jones?

It seems we have 6 spots left:

1. Lovett
2. Watson
3. Furdge
4. Reed
5. Brule
6. Robinson

Those 6 seem to have committable offers. So that that leaves Young and Jones as the next 2 up if we lose any of the above 6.

[Barking 13]

First, I reiterate the question about why in the heck you even opened up a recruiting thread? Please go spend your time somewhere else if you are not interested in how our current recruiting is going. Second, JoMo and staff have only been on the job less than 2 months so I really don't know at this point what they have figured out with regards to recruiting in the South and what our needs are and what they don't. Third, can we PLEASE retire the word melt or melting? If I read that in one more post I am going to literally throw up. Sometimes I think we have more sunshine pumpers on this board than Genespage ever had.

Oh, I care, I just think it’s ridiculous that some of you think you know more than our coaching staff, and think they have no clue of what they are doing. I’ve followed this thread from the beginning, as well as nearly every thread on here. I’m just saying I’ll be glad when the next couple of days are over with so you guys can start freaking out about the 19 class.

[Todd4State]

If he graduates, he can transfer where he wants. With that said, he is not coming here. That is over

He actually could go to a JUCO next year and then transfer to us. That's a more plausible way for him to end up at MSU. But he needs to do it either this semester or this summer.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Who do you think is higher on the board, Young or Jones?

It seems we have 6 spots left:

1. Lovett
2. Watson
3. Furdge
4. Reed
5. Brule
6. Robinson

Those 6 seem to have committable offers. So that that leaves Young and Jones as the next 2 up if we lose any of the above 6.

I would say Young because his grades are better.

[Ari Gold]

How we close Wednesday...
Lovett
Reed
Brule
Watson
Patterson
Furdge
Robinson

With Young being back up plan if any last minute fallouts . And we still might take him. Numbers depending

[bostondawg]

How we close Wednesday...
Lovett
Reed
Brule
Watson
Patterson
Furdge
Robinson

With Young being back up plan if any last minute fallouts . And we still might take him. Numbers depending

This would be a fine finish. Thanks for your info this cycle Ari.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

He actually could go to a JUCO next year and then transfer to us. That's a more plausible way for him to end up at MSU. But he needs to do it either this semester or this summer.
I figure he will get the ole BAMA medical hardship and be processed....that way he can't go to another SEC school...

[TALL DAWG]

It says, "This site can?t be reached...."*****

Lol...!

[HancockCountyDog]

Patterson still juco?

[msstate7]

Any word on elliss? Will he make it?

[BuckyIsAB****]

Patterson still juco?

yes

[HancockCountyDog]

This post is not intended to mean anything negative about coach JoMo.

Pruitt is absolutely killing it on the recruiting trail for UT he may bring two borderline five Star LBs with him to UT, one is still technically committed to Bama and the other was basically committed.

[msstate7]

This post is not intended to mean anything negative about coach JoMo.

Pruitt is absolutely killing it on the recruiting trail for UT he may bring two borderline five Star LBs with him to UT, one is still technically committed to Bama and the other was basically committed.

They will be forever be compared to each other.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

This post is not intended to mean anything negative about coach JoMo.

Pruitt is absolutely killing it on the recruiting trail for UT he may bring two borderline five Star LBs with him to UT, one is still technically committed to Bama and the other was basically committed.

He's done a solid job. TN is currently rated 20th in recruiting. Recruiting hasn't been TN problem Butch avg recruiting class last 4yrs was 11.

[msstate7]

He's done a solid job. TN is currently rated 20th in recruiting. Recruiting hasn't been TN problem Butch avg recruiting class last 4yrs was 11.

Where does the 2 borderline 5* put them if they get?

[HancockCountyDog]

He's done a solid job. TN is currently rated 20th in recruiting. Recruiting hasn't been TN problem Butch avg recruiting class last 4yrs was 11.

Butch wasted Alvin Kamara.

I didn't want Pruitt, I thought he was Kirby lite. If he can pull off brining the top two LB commits that Bama had or had lined up, that will be very impressive. I didn't think he would beat out Saban for those kids. It will be interesting to find out if he is telling these kids that Saban is retiring.

[HancockCountyDog]

Where does the 2 borderline 5* put them if they get?

Probably mid teens. That is a great job in a transition class where the previous coach is basically sabotaging you with recruits. My guess they finish between 16-20, which will be solid considering the circumstances.

[msstate7]

Butch wasted Alvin Kamara.

I didn't want Pruitt, I thought he was Kirby lite. If he can pull off brining the top two LB commits that Bama had or had lined up, that will be very impressive. I didn't think he would beat out Saban for those kids. It will be interesting to find out if he is telling these kids that Saban is retiring.

Will it be saban?s old guard that finally takes him down? Smart and Pruitt hitting saban for recruits helps us... bama will not be #1 in recruiting for the first time in a long time.

[Bully13]

Butch wasted Alvin Kamara.

I didn't want Pruitt, I thought he was Kirby lite. If he can pull off brining the top two LB commits that Bama had or had lined up, that will be very impressive. I didn't think he would beat out Saban for those kids. It will be interesting to find out if he is telling these kids that Saban is retiring.

TN is firing up their old network.

[HancockCountyDog]

TN is firing up their old network.

What old network? You think they slow downed cheating?

You think Drew Richmond and Trey Smith decided to sign with the big orange because they always dreamed of running through the giant T? Sheeeeiiiiiittttttt. Butch kicked bucky in the those two front teeth more than once on the recruiting trail. Richmond, Smith, Chandler, Bituli, and Kongbo just going off last year's recruiting list.

UT has never had a recruiting problem - IYOK is right there. I just thought they would take a hit during a transition class. They may be just fine.

[Commercecomet24]

What old network? You think they slow downed cheating?

You think Drew Richmond and Trey Smith decided to sign with the big orange because they always dreamed of running through the giant T? Sheeeeiiiiiittttttt. Butch kicked bucky in the those two front teeth more than once on the recruiting trail. Richmond, Smith, Chandler, Bituli, and Kongbo just going off last year's recruiting list.

UT has never had a recruiting problem - IYOK is right there. I just thought they would take a hit during a transition class. They may be just fine.

Yeah Butch always brought in top classes, they didn't lose from a lack of talent, they lost cause he sucked as a coach.

[maroonmania]

I figure he will get the ole BAMA medical hardship and be processed....that way he can't go to another SEC school...
What a waste of a career under Saban for Lashley. Hey, but he'll at least get a ring I guess.

[Bully13]

What old network? You think they slow downed cheating?

You think Drew Richmond and Trey Smith decided to sign with the big orange because they always dreamed of running through the giant T? Sheeeeiiiiiittttttt. Butch kicked bucky in the those two front teeth more than once on the recruiting trail. Richmond, Smith, Chandler, Bituli, and Kongbo just going off last year's recruiting list.

UT has never had a recruiting problem - IYOK is right there. I just thought they would take a hit during a transition class. They may be just fine.

never kept up much with UT's crootin' I'm just going by my 12 years in Mempho when all kinds of rumors were flying back in the day when phat phil was headed towards a natty.

[maroonmania]

Butch wasted Alvin Kamara.

I didn't want Pruitt, I thought he was Kirby lite. If he can pull off brining the top two LB commits that Bama had or had lined up, that will be very impressive. I didn't think he would beat out Saban for those kids. It will be interesting to find out if he is telling these kids that Saban is retiring.

Makes it easier though when you have the preexisting relationship with those recruits from being their recruiter at Bama. Next year will be more of a true indicator on Pruitt though he was already known to be a top recruiter.

[ShotgunDawg]

Makes it easier though when you have the preexisting relationship with those recruits from being their recruiter at Bama. Next year will be more of a true indicator on Pruitt though he was already known to be a top recruiter.

Completely agree.

Gonna have to give Pruitt a few years before we know anything.

With Alabama on his shirt, he had then opportunity to build relationships with players that he would have gotten in the door with at Tennessee.

[Johnson85]

Will it be saban?s old guard that finally takes him down? Smart and Pruitt hitting saban for recruits helps us... bama will not be #1 in recruiting for the first time in a long time.

Unless Saban responds by getting recruits that otherwise would have signed with us.

As hard as it is to beat Bama when Bama is recruiting lights out, it actually does help us with respect to everybody else because there are a lot of good recruits that are close to Mississippi State that don't get a Bama offer because they can recruit nationally so successfully.

[msbulldog]

They will be forever be compared to each other.

Compare their speeches at their introductory press conferences and you will figure out which coach you would rather have.

[msbulldog]

Butch wasted Alvin Kamara.

I didn't want Pruitt, I thought he was Kirby lite. If he can pull off brining the top two LB commits that Bama had or had lined up, that will be very impressive. I didn't think he would beat out Saban for those kids. It will be interesting to find out if he is telling these kids that Saban is retiring.

If he takes those two 5 stars from lil' Nikki, the over/under on next years Ala/Tn game will be quite interesting.

[msstate7]

Compare their speeches at their introductory press conferences and you will figure out which coach you would rather have.

I am happy with Moorhead, and think he will do a bang up job. With that said, I do not care how well my football coach speaks... I want him to win

[msbulldog]

I am happy with Moorhead, and think he will do a bang up job. With that said, I do not care how well my football coach speaks... I want him to win

But I know you don't want him to embarrass you or Mississippi State.

[Jack Lambert]

So Wednesday is signing day, are we going to sign more then 18? Hell ole miss is ahead of us in recruiting.

[Commercecomet24]

So Wednesday is signing day, are we going to sign more then 18? Hell ole miss is ahead of us in recruiting.

Looks like we will be signing 6 or 7.

[msstate7]

So Wednesday is signing day, are we going to sign more then 18? Hell ole miss is ahead of us in recruiting.

Just noticed that. Ouch

[Bully13]

So Wednesday is signing day, are we going to sign more then 18? Hell ole miss is ahead of us in recruiting.

Is that due to numbers or talent?

[msstate7]

Is that due to numbers or talent?

They have 19 commits/signees to our 18. They have a small lead in avg per recruit

[civildawg]

Man that?s depressing

[Commercecomet24]

Is that due to numbers or talent?

Numbers it?ll change on Wednesday

[Bully13]

For tsun to be in our vicinity in crootin sux to high heaven.

[maroonmania]

For tsun to be in our vicinity in crootin sux to high heaven.

Why? Not much holding them back at this point. They will miss the bowl game this year (unless the NCAA lets them off the hook completely) but after that its off to the races.

[Irondawg]

I?ll give them credit that their ability to consistently get highly ranked qb and wr is impressive, even if some of them have some potential issues.

Still kind of wish we had gone after Hamilton Hall so will be curious if I feel that way 3 years from now

[Todd4State]

They have 19 commits/signees to our 18. They have a small lead in avg per recruit

The weird thing is they only have two four star recruits and we have at least four.

[Cooterpoot]

They got the QB bumped up and a couple more guys. Rankings are BS outside the top 10, and even those are questionable after AL and OSU most years.

[Bully13]

Did tsun get that QB that UF had to drop due to issues?

[msbulldog]

Did tsun get that QB that UF had to drop due to issues?

Yep

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Everyone want to predict how we finish tomorrow? I'll go...assuming we can sign 6

Fabien Lovett
Jaylon Reed
Nate Watson
Aaron Brule
Esaias Furdge
Cameron Young

Patterson to Co-Lin

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Did tsun get that QB that UF had to drop due to issues?

yes, also a 4* WR that UGA dropped on signing say. Those .96 and .92 ratings (both overrated; the QB has so many issues literally nobody would take him, and the 2nd would have been signed by UGA if he was a real .92) are what's bringing them up. We have better top players, and they have more high 3 stars (.86-.88) than we do. However some of our guys are WAY underrated... .84s that should be .88s, like Cumbest or Spivey.

We have the better class no doubt both on the field and off, but yeah it's ridiculous how quickly they bought their way to relevancy again. They have a better class than Arkansas does... and Arkansas has a better recruiter than Luke, with a better resume than Luke, at a program with a little more to offer than Luke, and yet Luke is getting 4* receivers from Texas and Georgia.. and DT's from Yuma Arizona (where have I heard that name before, I wonder). It's the same song and dance- OM getting out of state players they have very little relationship with, as objectively better programs get worse classes. It's all $$$, and while I believe every program does it to some extent, OM clearly takes it to a whole new level. Om could buy $80k Corvettes for each recruit, post it on social media, and the NCAA won't be back. Acknowledging OM is cheating again would mean admitting their weak ass punishments didn't do anything. So OM will, honestly, probably cheat harder than ever before. This class -which isn't even that bad- is the last one they'll have outside the top 20. Hope I'm wrong but now that they've been investigated once they almost have immunity, because they 'ain't getting investigated again

[Cooterpoot]

Lovett
Reed
Watson
Robinson
Furdge
Young

Brule screws us (Just a feeling)

[Doggie_Style]

Lovett
Reed
Watson
Robinson
Furdge
Young

Brule screws us (Just a feeling)

ditto...

[msstate7]

Lovett
Reed
Watson
Robinson
Furdge
Young

Brule screws us (Just a feeling)

I have no idea how good brule is or is not, but I will feel better bc it means we beat an sec school for him.

Any chance auburn misses on some guys and sends Watson papers?

Lovett is the obviously the best of this bunch. Good job by the staff getting him back.

Not a good finish though after the good group we got in December. I think we will have a much better class next season

[msstate7]

OM guys CBing tank Jenkins (4* guard) to rebels. Looks like Oklahoma, aTm, and Louisville others in it. If they get him, OM has done well since Christmas

[HancockCountyDog]

OM guys CBing tank Jenkins (4* guard) to rebels. Looks like Oklahoma, aTm, and Louisville others in it. If they get him, OM has done well since Christmas

I wouldn't pay it any mind until someone who doesn't make a living off telling bear fans what they want to hear.

[msstate7]

I wouldn't pay it any mind until someone who doesn't make a living off telling bear fans what they want to hear.

That is true.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

OM guys CBing tank Jenkins (4* guard) to rebels. Looks like Oklahoma, aTm, and Louisville others in it. If they get him, OM has done well since Christmas

Would be insult to injury- here we are with OL as the clear #1 recruiting priority, and try as we may we whiff on everyone but one low low 3* with no 2nd player in sight. All the while OM adds a 4* and a decent 3* (Hamilton Hall)

[HancockCountyDog]

FYI - on Jalan Robinson, it looks like Nebraska had him in on an unofficial visit, not an official visit. They may be trying to pull some type of Tennessee Blue shirting bullshit, which is good for us because my guess is that we would lose him to Nebraska if they give him a firm offer and it is looking like that is iffy at best.

So, I like our chances with Robinson.

[msstate7]

Scott frost is doing a good job recruiting. He has gotten some good commitments already, and looks like he may get Caleb tannor over auburn, FSU, and Florida.

[BuckyIsAB****]

If we sign Lovett I'll be ok. Brule would be icing on the cake for me

[msstate7]

If we sign Lovett I'll be ok. Brule would be icing on the cake for me

If we lose Lovett, this late signing period will have been a disaster

[RezDog7]

If we lose Lovett, this late signing period will have been a disaster

The ultimate pessimist.

[msstate7]

The ultimate pessimist.

Must have missed where I said we were losing him. I do not think we do; but make no mistake, he is a must tomorrow

[Doggie_Style]

Must have missed where I said we were losing him. I do not think we do; but make no mistake, he is a must tomorrow

I completely agree....our new staff has made Lovett a priority.

[JETDAWG]

I saw Tyrone Sampson the center who everyone has backed off of Crystal balling us this morning has something changed?

[Bully13]

I saw Tyrone Sampson the center who everyone has backed off of Crystal balling us this morning has something changed?

I wish I knew what it is about this guy that had so many back off.

[Johnson85]

I wish I knew what it is about this guy that had so many back off.

Yes, surprising that it is bad enough that nobody will touch him but that it's not come out as common knowledge. Or maybe the evaluation is just terrible and he's no where near a 4 star. But weird for sure.

[Commercecomet24]

I wish I knew what it is about this guy that had so many back off.

I don't understand it either. He decommitted from Syracuse in December and the Syracuse coaches were shocked and upset that they lost him. Syracuse didn't drop him, he dropped them. It's an extremely odd situation.

[Doggie_Style]

I don't understand it either. He decommitted from Syracuse in December and the Syracuse coaches were shocked and upset that they lost him. Syracuse didn't drop him, he dropped them. It's an extremely odd situation.

Odd for sure.....first his plan was to early enroll at Syracuse then he de-committed. Then he was interested in Nebraska and State but never visited either. He aint coming to State.

[Commercecomet24]

Odd for sure.....first his plan was to early enroll at Syracuse then he de-committed. Then he was interested in Nebraska and State but never visited either. He aint coming to State.

Yeah I ain't believing he's coming here either. The odd thing about all this is if he's done something amiss it's not out there to be found right now.

[preachermatt83]

If we sign Lovett I'll be ok. Brule would be icing on the cake for me

^^^This... and I don't think we get either one.

[Bothrops]

I don't understand it either. He decommitted from Syracuse in December and the Syracuse coaches were shocked and upset that they lost him. Syracuse didn't drop him, he dropped them. It's an extremely odd situation.

Maybe he has extraordinarily bad breath.

[Commercecomet24]

Maybe he has extraordinarily bad breath.

Ha! You never know!

[Bothrops]

^^^This... and I don't think we get either one.

Why?

[Johnson85]

Yeah I ain't believing he's coming here either. The odd thing about all this is if he's done something amiss it's not out there to be found right now.

IYOK or Ari or whoever??? Anybody know whether we are even open to Sampson? Is he flaking out on everybody? Or is everybody backing away from him because of a serious issue?

[sandwolf]

IYOK or Ari or whoever??? Anybody know whether we are even open to Sampson? Is he flaking out on everybody? Or is everybody backing away from him because of a serious issue?

It really is odd how teams went for an in home and then completely walked away from him as a prospect. Paul says his listed measurables are accurate, so its not like coaches walked in his house to find out that he was 5'-10" or something. Pretty sure that he also confirmed that it wasn't grades. And it can't be that he is overrated, because we are in a desperate enough situation to where we couldn't just write him off that abruptly....plus, that is something that would be seen on tape, not in an in home visit. Only thing that I can figure is that he is just straight up asking for a pay day from the coaches.....so openly that it even scared OM off (only due to the fact that they are under the microscope right now). I can't come up with anything else that would cause teams to cut ties with him so abruptly. Either way, I am sure we will find out what the issue was after signing day.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

IYOK or Ari or whoever??? Anybody know whether we are even open to Sampson? Is he flaking out on everybody? Or is everybody backing away from him because of a serious issue?

He's not coming here. He's a 4* AA with no P5 school willing to touch him. It's pretty self explanatory.

[msstate7]

He's not coming here. He's a 4* AA with no P5 school willing to touch him. It's pretty self explanatory.

OM will take an alcoholic (corral) and a sex offender (Hartsfield). This kid must be a mess

ETA... without knowing anything of his situation, he is not in prison, so I hope someone gives him an opportunity

[sandwolf]

He's not coming here. He's a 4* AA with no P5 school willing to touch him. It's pretty self explanatory.

It's been discussed multiple times on multiple message boards and people are still asking about it, so clearly it's not self explanatory. Like you said, he is a 4* AA that both OM and State abruptly cut ties with after an in home visit and neither fan base has any idea why.....there isn't so much as a rumor as to what the issue is, which is extremely unusual. So why don't you end the speculation and let everybody in on what the issue is?

[Jack Lambert]

It's been discussed multiple times on multiple message boards and people are still asking about it, so clearly it's not self explanatory. Like you said, he is a 4* AA that both OM and State abruptly cut ties with after an in home visit and neither fan base has any idea why.....there isn't so much as a rumor as to what the issue is, which is extremely unusual. So why don't you end the speculation and let everybody in on what the issue is?

It could be he asked for money.

[Ari Gold]

No on Sampson guys...
Think of him like a bad piece of *****. Never Again....

[Commercecomet24]

No on Sampson guys...
Think of him like a bad piece of *****. Never Again....

That paints a pleasant mental picture lol

[Todd4State]

It could be he asked for money.

He's probably crazy and unstable. Just guessing. I don't know.

I could see where something like that could come out in an in home. Probably like that guy for UMass that got shot and then tried to hurt Gerri Green and then proceeded to get into a fight with his teammates and coaches.

[yjnkdawg]

It could be he asked for money.


For an out-of-state 4*AA, that shouldn't be an issue for OM.

[Bothrops]

He's probably crazy and unstable. Just guessing. I don't know.

I could see where something like that could come out in an in home. Probably like that guy for UMass that got shot and then tried to hurt Gerri Green and then proceeded to get into a fight with his teammates and coaches.

Maybe had diarrhea of the mouth. Or maybe he tried to come-on to every coach that crossed his path!

[preachermatt83]

Why?

No inside info. I just don't think we land either one. I am prob wrong. I sure hope I am.

[Turfdawg67]

It really is odd how teams went for an in home and then completely walked away from him as a prospect. Paul says his listed measurables are accurate, so its not like coaches walked in his house to find out that he was 5'-10" or something. Pretty sure that he also confirmed that it wasn't grades. And it can't be that he is overrated, because we are in a desperate enough situation to where we couldn't just write him off that abruptly....plus, that is something that would be seen on tape, not in an in home visit. Only thing that I can figure is that he is just straight up asking for a pay day from the coaches.....so openly that it even scared OM off (only due to the fact that they are under the microscope right now). I can't come up with anything else that would cause teams to cut ties with him so abruptly. Either way, I am sure we will find out what the issue was after signing day.

Under a microscope, huh? You really think anyone gives a rat's ass in the NCAA?

[HancockCountyDog]

No inside info. I just don't think we land either one. I am prob wrong. I sure hope I am.

You are

[Commercecomet24]

You are

Thank you!

[preachermatt83]

You are

Awesome

[I seen it dawg]

Lovett to State....again

[BuckyIsAB****]

^^^This... and I don't think we get either one.

You suck

[maroonmania]

Lovett to State....again

Yep, Rosebowl headed to Olive Branch tomorrow for signing day. He wouldn't be going if he wasn't about 99.9% sure of where the OB prospects were signing.

[Doggie_Style]

Lovett now a 4 Star....not sure what that means

[BuckyIsAB****]

Lovett now a 4 Star....not sure what that means

Could be good, could be bad. To OMs credit they have a history of guys getting unexplained bumps for who they sign.

[Doggie_Style]

Could be good, could be bad. To OMs credit they have a history of guys getting unexplained bumps for who they sign.

Exactly!

[Commercecomet24]

Lovett still showing 3 Star on 247.

[msstate7]

Lovett still showing 3 Star on 247.

Composite.

4-star 247

[Commercecomet24]

Composite.

4-star 247

I only look at the composite. He still 3 Star composite.

If he?s a 247 4 Star that bump probably came from our side. Good news for us.

[Doggie_Style]

[QUOTE=Commercecomet24;883158]I only look at the composite. He still 3 Star composite.

If he?s a 247 4 Star that bump probably came from our side. Good news for us.[/QUOTE

anyway he was bumped to a .899

[Commercecomet24]

[QUOTE=Commercecomet24;883158]I only look at the composite. He still 3 Star composite.

If he?s a 247 4 Star that bump probably came from our side. Good news for us.[/QUOTE

anyway he was bumped to a .899

Yeah let?s get him signed up tomorrow!

[BuckyIsAB****]

Scott Goodman K from Brandon taking a PWO with us. Couldnt be prouder. We got a steal