Jordan Seaton on campus

[msstate7]

You might have been but the sitting HC that a majority wanted was Chadwell. Kinne was a hot name too especially among the air raid fans. And my lord the Tom Herman threads and debates.

I remember Cig mentioned but he was way way way down the list of the fans on the message boards. There were no long back and forth as debating Cig. At all.

I doubt anyone on that list has a worse sec record than Lebby at this point.

[Really Clark?]

I doubt anyone on that list has a worse sec record than Lebby at this point.

Yes, no, maybe. You know it's a crap shoot in what you get. The point was Cig was not a name brought up that much during the search. There were a lot others debated more hotly.

[Cowbeller]

Yes, no, maybe. You know it's a crap shoot in what you get. The point was Cig was not a name brought up that much during the search. There were a lot others debated more hotly.

Cig is the exception not the rule. I am not even sure anywhere except Indiana works out as well as it did, it is easy to catch momentum going into the post season when you only have 2 games of merit in the regular season.

I dont think this is a crazy take either. No doubt would have been more successful than Lebby but you never know with a G5 guy. Theres way more examples of it not working.

[Pancho]

Well, I know who will be a top candidate for the Bama job if it opens in the near future.

[Coach34]

Well, I know who will be a top candidate for the Bama job if it opens in the near future.

Yeah- he is def the Saban of the mid-20's. Problem for Cig is that he will be 65 in June. He has about 7 solid years left. 10 at most

[BlackSailsDawg]

Well, I know who will be a top candidate for the Bama job if it opens in the near future.

Will open up after this season.

[Tater]

Yeah- he is def the Saban of the mid-20's. Problem for Cig is that he will be 65 in June. He has about 7 solid years left. 10 at most

With advances in modern science and his high level income - it's not crazy to think that he can live to be 245, maybe 300

[Santiago]

You might have been but the sitting HC that a majority wanted was Chadwell. Kinne was a hot name too especially among the air raid fans. And my lord the Tom Herman threads and debates.

I remember Cig mentioned but he was way way way down the list of the fans on the message boards. There were no long back and forth as debating Cig. At all.

If you are saying that 10 people on here debating a coach represented the thoughts of everyone else, then no.

I was in favor of a coach that had actually been a HC, and had a network of coaches to pull with them as good assistants.

[bigplayslay]

Interested to see how Stein is going to do at UK. They have a top 10 portal class. How much is he making?

[Goldendawg]

I doubt anyone on that list has a worse sec record than Lebby at this point.

There seem to be a lot of coaches and ex-coaches on the board. I dare say all of them could go better than 1-15 with only that last-minute win over Arkansas, aided by about 200 yards in penalties. I don't have the knowledge or connections of most of you, but I know another in over his head HC hire when I see it since the Davis years. This is another in the long line of our "powers to be," setting us up for failure again and again. JMO.

[Goldendawg]

Yeah- he is def the Saban of the mid-20's. Problem for Cig is that he will be 65 in June. He has about 7 solid years left. 10 at most

And just what is the average tenure by a successful HC at any stop? I would take a chance on a very successful 65-year-old coach from many levels vs our history with "up and coming" assistant coaches at this point.

[Goldendawg]

If you are saying that 10 people on here debating a coach represented the thoughts of everyone else, then no.

I was in favor of a coach that had actually been a HC, and had a network of coaches to pull with them as good assistants.

This, but will try to not post again about beating our entire herd of dead horses regarding the constant hiring of assistant coaches to hopefully learn on the job and succeed!****

[TrapGame]

Going back to Seaton.

I thought LSU was inevitable but things sure are quiet now.

[Homedawg]

If you are saying that 10 people on here debating a coach represented the thoughts of everyone else, then no.

I was in favor of a coach that had actually been a HC, and had a network of coaches to pull with them as good assistants.

While that sounds great, who would that have been at the time? And Who was willing to take it, at the time?

[Santiago]

While that sounds great, who would that have been at the time? And Who was willing to take it, at the time?

whole other can to open on that.

[Chuck3124]

Going back to Seaton.

I thought LSU was inevitable but things sure are quiet now.

Lebby tweeting the undertaker gif right about now would hit like 80?s crack

[Dawgface]

OT: Didn’t Selmon make a post last week about a big announcement of some kind was coming in a day or two. Did I miss it or maybe I dreamed this?

[Pancho]

Probably just mean that he'll announce once his last paid visit is deposited.

[Todd4State]

Going back to Seaton.

I thought LSU was inevitable but things sure are quiet now.

LSU thinks they're getting everyone. They're the complete opposite of us.

And they might get him or not.

[Coach34]

We just signed Sneh

[BlackSailsDawg]

McVay isn't a LT. We haven't landed Sneh yet. Until we do, that isn't an improvement.

Okay, now do TE and Edge. You left that out. How have we improved there?

McVay has played LT. We have signed Sneh.

But even if we had not signed either of those, the upside to the guys signed was an improvement in raw talent.

We got the TE we wanted. And we are not looking for another.

As to edge, we did sign some. Arnett worked with one of them who played some last year for him. In fact the kid is good enough that he played both ways for FSU. Scored a TD on a pass as a TE and averaged 25 yards per catch. He also had 10 tackles, 2.0 tackles for loss (TFL), and 1.5 sacks as the rotation guy. He scored a TD and got a sack in the same game playing both ways.

[StarkVegasSteve]

OT: Didn’t Selmon make a post last week about a big announcement of some kind was coming in a day or two. Did I miss it or maybe I dreamed this?

It was Dampier's jersey getting retired. Everyone made a massive deal out of it when they were told it wasn't going to be something earth shattering.

[BlackSailsDawg]

From LSU writer:

I honestly don't have a great feel on Seaton now. Oregon in the mix, so is Miami but him leaving LSU without signing was not what I expected on Monday. Thought Tigers would close and heard Seaton was really impressed with that visit. We'll see but it's a toss up right now.

[Tater]

McVay has played LT. We have signed Sneh.

But even if we had not signed either of those, the upside to the guys signed was an improvement in raw talent.

We got the TE we wanted. And we are not looking for another.

As to edge, we did sign some. Arnett worked with one of them who played some last year for him. In fact the kid is good enough that he played both ways for FSU. Scored a TD on a pass as a TE and averaged 25 yards per catch. He also had 10 tackles, 2.0 tackles for loss (TFL), and 1.5 sacks as the rotation guy. He scored a TD and got a sack in the same game playing both ways.

He got a TD and HALF a sack in a 77-3 blowout win over EAST Texas A&M.

As if we need more reason to not trust your ****ing shitty attempts to fake reality as much as possible. Jesus christ. Take a ****in hike dude.

[BlackSailsDawg]

He got a TD and HALF a sack in a 77-3 blowout win over EAST Texas A&M.

As if we need more reason to not trust your ****ing shitty attempts to fake reality as much as possible. Jesus christ. Take a ****in hike dude.

Cry more little one

[HancockCountyDog]

Cry more little one

Gotta admit - you really come off as a puppet for the coaching staff. The guy has a legit point.

Several of us on here have legitimate concerns about this portal class and the direction of the program. I mean, the DL we signed in the portal have done zero on any level, let alone P4 level. Most of our OL signees haven't played at all. Chester is the only one that has played meaningful snaps.

We signed one solid WR. We haven't addressed RB where we clearly need to replace Booth - and we haven't. I like Gayten, but I think we should have gone after a backup RB.

I do like what we did in the secondary - really like Gilbert, Taylor and the Rice kid.

Beyond the secondary being improved - I don't see a position group other than LB (Due to getting better year to year) that we should expect to be better than last year.

I just don't see you can look at our roster and think we are any better than last season. Especially on the DL. We have Whitson returning, but from another injury. Beyond him, I guess we have Trevion for another season.

[MrCoachKlein]

With advances in modern science and his high level income - it's not crazy to think that he can live to be 245, maybe 300

:D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llKiTvpnvzM

[Coach34]

My only concern is that we went young in the trenches. You can certainly make the case we signed more talented guys to come in- but they will certainly be a little green. 11 of our new signees were composite 4 stars out of HS. This hasnt really been discussed but we also ran off some dumb guys and brought some smarter ones in. Heard that one of our biggest problems on the OL was that there were some dumbasses on it. Constantly missing assignments for stupidity cant be tolerated

[BlackSailsDawg]

Gotta admit - you really come off as a puppet for the coaching staff. The guy has a legit point.

Several of us on here have legitimate concerns about this portal class and the direction of the program. I mean, the DL we signed in the portal have done zero on any level, let alone P4 level. Most of our OL signees haven't played at all. Chester is the only one that has played meaningful snaps.

We signed one solid WR. We haven't addressed RB where we clearly need to replace Booth - and we haven't. I like Gayten, but I think we should have gone after a backup RB.

I do like what we did in the secondary - really like Gilbert, Taylor and the Rice kid.

Beyond the secondary being improved - I don't see a position group other than LB (Due to getting better year to year) that we should expect to be better than last year.

I just don't see you can look at our roster and think we are any better than last season. Especially on the DL. We have Whitson returning, but from another injury. Beyond him, I guess we have Trevion for another season.

The fact that you think that an NCAA/SEC staff would come to a message board or send people to message boards to make comments is something. LOL.

You have concerns. That doesn't make them legit.

DL- Dealyn Evans played in all 13 games for TAMU, including the CFP. Amaree Williams played last year for Arnett. He knows what he is getting with him. Jayson Jenkins has played alot. He started at Tennessee in 2022 and took a red shirt. He even recorded a strip sack against us in 2024. That's not including the ones we intentionally kept on.

OL. Sneh has been playing since 2022. He's plyed LT the whole time and has started since 2023. DJ Chester has played and was all SEC as a starter for LSU in 2024 and then was put into filling holes in 2025 due to his versatility. Miles McVay saw a lot of snaps while at Bama and was seeing them until his injury at NC. That's not counting the returning people we made sure we kept. Steen, Boone....etc

WR. Marquis Johnson has played since his freshman year. He's played in 25 games and is considered an "Elite Deep Threat". Zion Ragins played in all 13 games as a freshman on a CFP team. We also return a great WR room.

RB. Why would we need another RB? We have our 1&2 and back ups. Gayten took the #2 spot. Plus, we are not done yet.

[Hot Rock]

People, including coaches, get enamored with a player's physical capabilities and forget that the OL needs to be your smartest position group. Often times coaches are over confident and think they can fix players. Especially when you get desperate, you take what you can get.

Any weak link in the group can cause major issues. They have to communicate and think quickly while battling against the biggest and most violent athletes that can be found. The DL guys? They have no such problem, they can be as dumb as Bobby Bucher Jr and still have the see ball and get ball mentality and be very effectively as a DL.

[Tater]

The fact that you think that an NCAA/SEC staff would come to a message board or send people to message boards to make comments is something. LOL.

You have concerns. That doesn't make them legit.

DL- Dealyn Evans played in all 13 games for TAMU, including the CFP. Amaree Williams played last year for Arnett. He knows what he is getting with him. Jayson Jenkins has played alot. He started at Tennessee in 2022 and took a red shirt. He even recorded a strip sack against us in 2024. That's not including the ones we intentionally kept on.

OL. Sneh has been playing since 2022. He's plyed LT the whole time and has started since 2023. DJ Chester has played and was all SEC as a starter for LSU in 2024 and then was put into filling holes in 2025 due to his versatility. Miles McVay saw a lot of snaps while at Bama and was seeing them until his injury at NC. That's not counting the returning people we made sure we kept. Steen, Boone....etc

WR. Marquis Johnson has played since his freshman year. He's played in 25 games and is considered an "Elite Deep Threat". Zion Ragins played in all 13 games as a freshman on a CFP team. We also return a great WR room.

RB. Why would we need another RB? We have our 1&2 and back ups. Gayten took the #2 spot. Plus, we are not done yet.

Well we've got money and we ain't spending it on anything good so he was being nice and saying hopefully you're getting paid to spout your idiocy. But clearly you're just retarded for free.

[Todd4State]

Now that Sneh is in the boat Edge is our biggest need. Not sure what is still out there honestly.

[HancockCountyDog]

Now that Sneh is in the boat Edge is our biggest need. Not sure what is still out there honestly.

Damon Wilson from Mizzou is still out there. If we have 4-5 million for Seaton, I would put at least half of that in front of Wilson and make him say no.

Apparently TT offered him close to 2.5 million.

[KOdawg1]

McVay has played LT. We have signed Sneh.

But even if we had not signed either of those, the upside to the guys signed was an improvement in raw talent.

We got the TE we wanted. And we are not looking for another.

As to edge, we did sign some. Arnett worked with one of them who played some last year for him. In fact the kid is good enough that he played both ways for FSU. Scored a TD on a pass as a TE and averaged 25 yards per catch. He also had 10 tackles, 2.0 tackles for loss (TFL), and 1.5 sacks as the rotation guy. He scored a TD and got a sack in the same game playing both ways.

McVay has played LT. But he's not a LT. Like I said.

Sneh is a good get. No doubt there.

The TE we "wanted" sucks. Not an upgrade over Traore from a receiving standpoint.

We have signed some edges. Very little production. We have to hope they're good.

My original statement is true. You can "LOL" at it all you want.

[KOdawg1]

Damon Wilson from Mizzou is still out there.

Miami

[BlackSailsDawg]

McVay has played LT. But he's not a LT. Like I said.

Sneh is a good get. No doubt there.

The TE we "wanted" sucks. Not an upgrade over Traore from a receiving standpoint.

We have signed some edges. Very little production. We have to hope they're good.

My original statement is true. You can "LOL" at it all you want.

PFF would disagree with you.

Pass protection. Riley Williams is a major upgrade in this department with a 71.8 pass-block grade, compared to Traore’s 52.4. Williams has a slightly higher run block grade. From a receiving stand point, I provided a video of him at Miami. Lebby is going to run it and protect the QB.

[KOdawg1]

PFF would disagree with you.

Pass protection. Riley Williams is a major upgrade in this department with a 71.8 pass-block grade, compared to Traore’s 52.4. Williams has a slightly higher run block grade. From a receiving stand point, I provided a video of him at Miami. Lebby is going to run it and protect the QB.

He's the complete opposite of Traore. We need someone who can block and catch.

[BlackSailsDawg]

He's the complete opposite of Traore. We need someone who can block and catch.

Thats opinion, but I have no issue with you having one. But if Lebby went for this guy, and what you say is true, then it stands to reason that he is looking for something else at this position.

Can't say that I blame him. The OL was almost last in sacks allowed.

[KOdawg1]

Thats opinion, but I have no issue with you having one. But if Lebby went for this guy, and what you say is true, then it stands to reason that he is looking for something else at this position.

Can't say that I blame him. The OL was almost last in sacks allowed.

Him being the opposite of Traore isn't opinion.

We needing someone who can block and catch is an opinion, but it's a common sense one.

[Pancho]

Thats opinion, but I have no issue with you having one. But if Lebby went for this guy, and what you say is true, then it stands to reason that he is looking for something else at this position.

Can't say that I blame him. The OL was almost last in sacks allowed.

sounds like lebby wanting something else and this guy being different are the same thing

[Bdawg]

Now that Sneh is in the boat Edge is our biggest need. Not sure what is still out there honestly.

Didn’t we lose James? Who’s his replacement? Where did that blank check go for Seaton? If that check was a one time deal from a booster, why are we not cutting Seaton that check? Or did we just have enough funds set aside for Seaton? Has Seaton told us no yet? Does he wants to play for a better team?

[Pancho]

we have agreed with Seaton mutually to end talks.

[Bdawg]

we have agreed with Seaton mutually to end talks.

Ok. He just not interested in a “blank check”?

[BlackSailsDawg]

we have agreed with Seaton mutually to end talks.

Last I saw was we are still talking to him and in it as far as pay is concerned.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Ok. He just not interested in a “blank check”?

Not interested in playing for a dead man walking

[Coach34]

Ok. He just not interested in a “blank check”?

No top notch player is coming to State to play that isnt from Mississippi no matter who our coach is. Lebby and Loadholt got us in the mix because of relationship and being awesome

[Coach34]

Not interested in playing for a dead man walking

Lebby recruited a bunch of guys in the trenches with 3 years remaining. Somebody has told him he has 2 more years at least

[KOdawg1]

Lebby recruited a bunch of guys in the trenches with 3 years remaining. Somebody has told him he has 2 more years at least

If he goes 4-8 next year, he'll be done. Not buying that.

[Activated Alpha]

No top notch player is coming to State to play that isnt from Mississippi no matter who our coach is. Lebby and Loadholt got us in the mix because of relationship and being awesome

So why the hell are you asking everyone and their mother to donate their mobile homes and cash they buried in big mayonnaise jars in their backyard if no big star will ever come here? Seems like that money would be best spent elsewhere right?

[Coach34]

If he goes 4-8 next year, he'll be done. Not buying that.

I'm just saying- If I've been told my job was on the line for 2026- I would not have recruited a bunch of green guys to play OL. Very few people are that dumb. People that do that have been told they have the support of the Administration to rebuild the program for a couple more years to get it on a solid foundation.

Nothing else makes sense

[Coach34]

So why the hell are you asking everyone and their mother to donate their mobile homes and cash they buried in big mayonnaise jars in their backyard if no big star will ever come here? Seems like that money would be best spent elsewhere right?

So we can grab a bunch of mids and grown ass men to win 7-8 games and not be shitty

Miss State has not and will ever get the pretty shiny toy in football. We never have and never will

[Cowbell]

I'm just saying- If I've been told my job was on the line for 2026- I would not have recruited a bunch of green guys to play OL. Very few people are that dumb. People that do that have been told they have the support of the Administration to rebuild the program for a couple more years to get it on a solid foundation.

Nothing else makes sense

Of course it does. Green guys are all he can land here

[Cowbell]

So we can grab a bunch of mids and grown ass men to win 7-8 games and not be shitty

Miss State has not and will ever get the pretty shiny toy in football. We never have and never will

Indiana, Missouri, and Vanderbilt say otherwise.and Texas tech. Lubbock is the armpit of America

[Bdawg]

No top notch player is coming to State to play that isnt from Mississippi no matter who our coach is. Lebby and Loadholt got us in the mix because of relationship and being awesome

And talks of a blank check. I think all three things together. Lebby, Loadholt, and the check

[Bdawg]

So why the hell are you asking everyone and their mother to donate their mobile homes and cash they buried in big mayonnaise jars in their backyard if no big star will ever come here? Seems like that money would be best spent elsewhere right?

He contradicts himself sometimes

[EdwardDrayton]

Indiana won 16 straight with mids and grown ass men. Myth Buster. Missippity Tate's leadership "yes, I like them french fried potaters. Yes I do".

[Brobi-wan]

Indiana, Missouri, and Vanderbilt say otherwise.and Texas tech. Lubbock is the armpit of America

Missouri is good, but they haven’t made a playoff. Not saying I wouldn’t take their situation vs. ours. Vanderbilt is an outlier. Think of how fun Miami must be making millions at 18….Vanderbilt is in Nashville which is also a fun city

[Coach34]

Indiana, Missouri, and Vanderbilt say otherwise.and Texas tech. Lubbock is the armpit of America

Somebody has never been to Meridian. Lubbock > Starkville

[Coach34]

Indiana, Missouri, and Vanderbilt say otherwise.and Texas tech. Lubbock is the armpit of America

I could recruit anybody to Nashville and a big check. Some of you guys are seriously ****ing stupid or just really anti-Lebby

[Tater]

I'm just saying- If I've been told my job was on the line for 2026- I would not have recruited a bunch of green guys to play OL. Very few people are that dumb. People that do that have been told they have the support of the Administration to rebuild the program for a couple more years to get it on a solid foundation.

Nothing else makes sense

Which is why I've been melting. This screams that our admin is allowing 1-15 to fester.

[maroonmania]

I'm just saying- If I've been told my job was on the line for 2026- I would not have recruited a bunch of green guys to play OL. Very few people are that dumb. People that do that have been told they have the support of the Administration to rebuild the program for a couple more years to get it on a solid foundation.

Nothing else makes sense

Hiring Hutzler as a totally green SEC DC didnt make any sense either but Lebby did it. So Im not counting on his actions to be all that logical.

[Quaoarsking]

I'm just saying- If I've been told my job was on the line for 2026- I would not have recruited a bunch of green guys to play OL. Very few people are that dumb. People that do that have been told they have the support of the Administration to rebuild the program for a couple more years to get it on a solid foundation.

Nothing else makes sense

It didn't "make sense" for Lebby to keep snapping the ball with 20 seconds left on the play clock against Texas, but he still did it. He may just not be the sharpest knife in the drawer.

[R2Dawg]

So we can grab a bunch of mids and grown ass men to win 7-8 games and not be shitty

Miss State has not and will ever get the pretty shiny toy in football. We never have and never will

Not totally true.

Chris Jones was #2 player in nation. Dontea Walker was #3 and #1 RB by some out of HS. Many other 5 star guys but all these were Miss kids that wanted to come here.

I don't want the shiny toy; I want some hungry dudes with the right attitude that want to prove something. No prima donnas or cancers need to enter MSU campus.

[DEDawg]

Not totally true.

Chris Jones was #2 player in nation. Dontea Walker was #3 and #1 RB by some out of HS. Many other 5 star guys but all these were Miss kids that wanted to come here.

I don't want the shiny toy; I want some hungry dudes with the right attitude that want to prove something. No prima donnas or cancers need to enter MSU campus.

I haven?t charted it out but my guess is if you look at our W/L from 2010 to 2025 vs MS recruiting ups and downs there is a direct correlation. Our model needs to be keep 6 out of the top 10 in state players each year and then spend the rest of your money on transfers. You are going to lose a few to Alabama and LSU and Ole Miss prioritizes national more. You can be successful with MS kids as your recruiting base.

[Coach34]

Not totally true.

Chris Jones was #2 player in nation. Dontea Walker was #3 and #1 RB by some out of HS. Many other 5 star guys but all these were Miss kids that wanted to come here.

I don't want the shiny toy; I want some hungry dudes with the right attitude that want to prove something. No prima donnas or cancers need to enter MSU campus.

We do get Mississippi kids.

[Coach34]

It didn't "make sense" for Lebby to keep snapping the ball with 20 seconds left on the play clock against Texas, but he still did it. He may just not be the sharpest knife in the drawer.

I agree but that's his philosophy and what helped get us the big lead in the first place. Many of us also remember the "Stands Stall" at the ends of games with leads he had that slipped away. I think he should have milked the clock also but had our idiot DL guy not hit the QB late we beat Texas. It's more than one variable in games

[HancockCountyDog]

I'm just saying- If I've been told my job was on the line for 2026- I would not have recruited a bunch of green guys to play OL. Very few people are that dumb. People that do that have been told they have the support of the Administration to rebuild the program for a couple more years to get it on a solid foundation.

Nothing else makes sense

Agreed. He went high upside, no production on p4 level. He thinks he can retain these players if they pop, and he thinks he is getting 2027 regardless of how this season goes - and moving to a 9 game schedule, it could easily go bad.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I agree but that's his philosophy and what helped get us the big lead in the first place. Many of us also remember the "Stands Stall" at the ends of games with leads he had that slipped away. I think he should have milked the clock also but had our idiot DL guy not hit the QB late we beat Texas. It's more than one variable in games

People seem to conveniently forget that. If Anderson just doesn't act like it's 1997 again, we have the ball up 38-21 at the Texas 38 with about 9 minutes to go. The game was over.

[Brobi-wan]

People seem to conveniently forget that. If Anderson just doesn't act like it's 1997 again, we have the ball up 38-21 at the Texas 38 with about 9 minutes to go. The game was over.

I hear football was more fun in ‘97. I wasn’t born so I can’t contribute to that line of thought.

[Todd4State]

I hear football was more fun in ‘97. I wasn’t born so I can’t contribute to that line of thought.

Jackie's teams would have set a NCAA record for targeting. Josh Morgan would probably hold it by himself individually.

[Todd4State]

I just wish the NFL would come up with Iron Man suits where you could blow someone up without getting CTE or a spinal cord injury.

[Coach34]

Jackie's teams would have set a NCAA record for targeting. Josh Morgan would probably hold it by himself individually.

Josh Morgan would have never finished a game. 12 games and a bowl game? 13 targeting penalties

[Really Clark?]

Josh Morgan would have never finished a game. 12 games and a bowl game? 13 targeting penalties

It would have been more than that, they would have given him 2 targeting penalties on some of his hits. They were vicious.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Lebby recruited a bunch of guys in the trenches with 3 years remaining. Somebody has told him he has 2 more years at least

Uh no. That?s the only ones he could get. You?re not that stupid or naive

[StarkVegasSteve]

Josh Morgan would have never finished a game. 12 games and a bowl game? 13 targeting penalties

Josh played in 34 career games at Mississippi State. With the current targeting rules, I'd place a large wager that he would've been ejected from 30 of those games.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Hiring Hutzler as a totally green SEC DC didnt make any sense either but Lebby did it. So Im not counting on his actions to be all that logical.

Only one he could get. Same with arnett and some of these assts. lebby is soft on the players and not real relatable with coaches or fans. It just is what it is

[CaptainObvious]

2026 will be his last year. He can?t avoid a 2-6 start with that schedule, no matter how much better the defense is. So an improved team with the same results marks the HC as the problem not the players. I just hope our clowns in the admin don?t think Arnept at interim again is the way to go.

[BlackSailsDawg]

2026 will be his last year. He can?t avoid a 2-6 start with that schedule, no matter how much better the defense is. So an improved team with the same results marks the HC as the problem not the players. I just hope our clowns in the admin don?t think Arnept at interim again is the way to go.

Lebby will be your coach next year. He will be your coach in 2027. Might as well accept that.

[RisperDawg]

I hear football was more fun in ‘97. I wasn’t born so I can’t contribute to that line of thought.

Wow man, you've got to be like the youngest guy on this board. Ha. Good for you.

[Hot Rock]

Wow man, you've got to be like the youngest guy on this board. Ha. Good for you.

Yes, don't you know, we are all senior citizens with nothing better to do than post on a message board.

[RisperDawg]

Yes, don't you know, we are all senior citizens with nothing better to do than post on a message board.

Yeah, I'm mid thirties and figured I was one of the youngest ones. This is a great community though. I enjoy it even when I'm just lurking. Learn a lot of State history from it. Most of it isn't good, honestly. Like who Larry Templeton was for instance. Ha.

[Coach34]

Uh no. That?s the only ones he could get. You?re not that stupid or naive

Bullshit. We are literally 13th in the country in portal rankings. I guess Mississippi is 15th because thats all they could get? Tenn is 19th because thats all they could get?

[StarkVegasSteve]

To sum up where we are on this thing:

Robbie Faulk seems pretty bearish on our chances to land Seaton.

Steve Robertson seems a little bullish but definitely more positive than Faulk.

Everyone else? Absolutely no clue. Seaton and his camp have played this one quite close to the vest. LSU had a lot of momentum at the start of the week and, depending on who you listen to, actually got a verbal commitment from Seaton. As of today, it seems that LSU has faded mightily in their pursuit. Miami, an early contender, has never really felt in it outside of being mentioned as a possible landing spot early and a Michael Irvin tweet. Oregon has some juice right now, but he never visited. Then there’s us, he did visit and we reportedly have the highest offer.

I believe we will know something within the next 24 hours. If I had to handicap it right now:

Oregon-11/1
State-15/1
LSU-20/1
Miami-75/1

[Tater]

To sum up where we are on this thing:

Robbie Faulk seems pretty bearish on our chances to land Seaton.

Steve Robertson seems a little bullish but definitely more positive than Faulk.

Everyone else? Absolutely no clue. Seaton and his camp have played this one quite close to the vest. LSU had a lot of momentum at the start of the week and, depending on who you listen to, actually got a verbal commitment from Seaton. As of today, it seems that LSU has faded mightily in their pursuit. Miami, an early contender, has never really felt in it outside of being mentioned as a possible landing spot early and a Michael Irvin tweet. Oregon has some juice right now, but he never visited. Then there’s us, he did visit and we reportedly have the highest offer.

I believe we will know something within the next 24 hours. If I had to handicap it right now:

Oregon-11/1
State-15/1
LSU-20/1
Miami-75/1


uhhh... that math ain't mathing.

Oregon 8%? State 6%? LSU 5%? Miami 1%?

Where is the other 80%?

[Pancho]

The catch is simply that Oregon gave Seaton's uncle more cash directly. As in more than LSU gave him.......

[StarkVegasSteve]

uhhh... that math ain't mathing.

Oregon 8%? State 6%? LSU 5%? Miami 1%?

Where is the other 80%?

Sorry:

Oregon-2/1
State-3/1
LSU-5/1
Miami-whatever is left.

I wasn’t trying to add up to 100%. Just what a sportsbook would probably give the odds

[Coach34]

Oregon is playing that Nike card

[Pancho]

Oregon is playing that Nike card

Is that who is handing the cash to Seaton's uncle?

[Tater]

Sorry:

Oregon-2/1
State-3/1
LSU-5/1
Miami-whatever is left.

I wasn’t trying to add up to 100%. Just what a sportsbook would probably give the odds

Yea I know I'm just joking around cause I'm like if you give me those odds i'm putting $1,000 on each and profiting off of you heavily lmao. I'd even have enough to sprinkle around to a secret last minute contender.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Oregon is playing that Nike card

As they should. Us and Miami have played the Adidas card. Adidas and Nike are both going to be fighting for his services when he's a pro so just getting an early start.

[Doggie_Style]

Oregon is playing that Nike card

Yea but we're playing the Edam Cheese card......lifetime supply***

[TrapGame]

Yea but we're playing the Edam Cheese card......lifetime supply***

He could have gone to Wisconsin for cheese. ***

[BuckyIsAB****]

Bullshit. We are literally 13th in the country in portal rankings. I guess Mississippi is 15th because thats all they could get? Tenn is 19th because thats all they could get?

That means what? Im so happy that State is half a point better in imaginary ratings of buying players that weren?t good enough to play where they came from or somewhere like LSU ran them off. But I guess when you are 1-15 and like 5-27 vs p4 you have to be proud of something

[DEDawg]

That means what? Im so happy that State is half a point better in imaginary ratings of buying players that weren?t good enough to play where they came from or somewhere like LSU ran them off. But I guess when you are 1-15 and like 5-27 vs p4 you have to be proud of something

Come on man you are moving the goalposts each time someone counters you with data

[BuckyIsAB****]

Come on man you are moving the goalposts each time someone counters you with data

That data means exactly Jack shit.

[Pancho]

That data means exactly Jack shit.

looks to be a 7 or 8 win team shaping up for Lebby now that he has plenty QB's. 27 should be even better

[Coach34]

That data means exactly Jack shit.

Question- what did you do to get Pogue fired so fast? He is a very good defensive coach. Why did you do so bad of a job to get your HC fired?

[redstickdawg]

Oregon is playing that Nike card

heard that LSU was offering just under $3MM, wow what is Nike offering?

[Thick]

That means what? Im so happy that State is half a point better in imaginary ratings of buying players that weren?t good enough to play where they came from or somewhere like LSU ran them off. But I guess when you are 1-15 and like 5-27 vs p4 you have to be proud of something

You also think Will Rogers was a great qb. We could have put a kid in a wheelchair with one arm that would have accomplished more than ?Check down Charlie?. Shapen would have set records under Leach bc he could throw it 20 plus yards on a rope, and he could definitely out run Rogers on his knees.

[Thick]

Question- what did you do to get Pogue fired so fast? He is a very good defensive coach. Why did you do so bad of a job to get your HC fired?

I?m interested to hear your response to that Coach Rogers/Bitch.

[Homedawg]

heard that LSU was offering just under $3MM, wow what is Nike offering?

His reported asking price was not 2.5. It was well north of it.

[BankerDog]

Question- what did you do to get Pogue fired so fast? He is a very good defensive coach. Why did you do so bad of a job to get your HC fired?

He wasn?t a Brandon man. BOE!!!

[Cowbeller]

Yeah, I'm mid thirties and figured I was one of the youngest ones. This is a great community though. I enjoy it even when I'm just lurking. Learn a lot of State history from it. Most of it isn't good, honestly. Like who Larry Templeton was for instance. Ha.

I?m mid 20s now and joined this board when I was 15. I used to act like an insider to my boys? hell still do, already reported Seaton is a done deal

[BigDawg81]

He commited to LSU on IG. State was in it to the end and gave him a really good offer. We have to win games before we can really get these types of players

[Pancho]

this

[mparkerfd20]

He commited to LSU on IG. State was in it to the end and gave him a really good offer. We have to win games before we can really get these types of players

Well **** him then

[DEDawg]

Ha yeah nobody knew anything at all on this one. If we were really going to give him $4M+ I hope that wasn?t committed ONLY for him and he can at least go grab another 3 legit guys

[KOdawg1]

So glad we've got all that money we were going to give to Seaton just sitting there collecting dust.

Maybe we can put it in the bank and let it collect interest. Ya know since we can't spend it since the portal is essential empty. Great management guys.

[Pancho]

what quality LT's are still available?

[DEDawg]

So glad we've got all that money we were going to give to Seaton just sitting there collecting dust.

Maybe we can put it in the bank and let it collect interest. Ya know since we can't spend it since the portal is essential empty. Great management guys.
Portal never empty. Ole Miss just signed a dude actively enrolled taking classes at Clemson. Not saying I want to be as scummy and immoral as them but we can be creative

[Tater]

Grab the LT from Toledo, figure out how to get the Baylor Edge enrolled, and then it's an ok portal class.

[KOdawg1]

Portal never empty. Ole Miss just signed a dude actively enrolled taking classes at Clemson. Not saying I want to be as scummy and immoral as them but we can be creative

It's pretty much over.

[Dawgface]

Portal never empty. Ole Miss just signed a dude actively enrolled taking classes at Clemson. Not saying I want to be as scummy and immoral as them but we can be creative
That dude needs to be the next one sued for not honoring his contract.

[Brobi-wan]

I?m mid 20s now and joined this board when I was 15. I used to act like an insider to my boys? hell still do, already reported Seaton is a done deal

You may still be the youngest as I am 27. Creeping into the late 20s

[Todd4State]

That dude needs to be the next one sued for not honoring his contract.

Clemson won't do that because that would make it harder for them to recruit players. And Ole Miss contacted the player if my understanding is correct while he was under contract.

[Coach34]

Clemson won't do that because that would make it harder for them to recruit players. And Ole Miss contacted the player if my understanding is correct while he was under contract.

Clemson is going thru the NCAA

[Coach34]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Colorado transfer OT Jordan Seaton has committed to LSU, he tells <a href="https://twitter.com/Hayesfawcett3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Hayesfawcett3</a>��<a href="https://t.co/MALMLWkh83">https://t.co/MALMLWkh83</a> <a href="https://t.co/KtobqQl97Z">pic.twitter.com/KtobqQl97Z</a></p>&mdash; On3 (@On3) <a href="https://twitter.com/On3/status/2014878844616843522?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2026</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[BuckyIsAB****]

Question- what did you do to get Pogue fired so fast? He is a very good defensive coach. Why did you do so bad of a job to get your HC fired?

Brother you have enough swing and misses on your record I?m gonna let you dig your own grave with that. But you have absolutely zero clue what you are talking about. Even if I was Wills dad, which I?m absolutely not, youd still be wrong. So maybe Stick to dick measuring contests about your accomplishments and coffee scams. I think these message boards have costed people their jobs before. So let?s leave that out of it

[BuckyIsAB****]

I?m interested to hear your response to that Coach Rogers/Bitch.
Neither one of those are my name. I hide behind a fake one on here just like you do chief. I guess we are both bitches

[BuckyIsAB****]

He wasn?t a Brandon man. BOE!!!

That?s for sure he wasn?t. Wild Brandon starting winning when he quit ain?t it? Sounds like that staff did a hell of a coaching job. Maybe Lebby should have hired some of them, he might as well if all he could get is Arnett and some JUCO recruiters

[Coach34]

Brother you have enough swing and misses on your record I?m gonna let you dig your own grave with that. But you have absolutely zero clue what you are talking about. Stick to dick measuring contests about your accomplishments and coffee scams

Yeah but I've made a career out of turning chicken shit into chicken salad. When I coached at a big boy? State coach of the year skin on my wall. I'm ok with what I've done and get a call to come back to Miss to coach after every season. When my 9th grader graduates- I probably will.

[Coach34]

Neither one of those are my name. I hide behind a fake one on here just like you do chief. I guess we are both bitches

alot of people know who Thick is on here and got to watch him score a few TD's in maroon and white. He's earned it

[BuckyIsAB****]

Yeah but I've made a career out of turning chicken shit into chicken salad. When I coached at a big boy? State coach of the year skin on my wall. I'm ok with what I've done and get a call to come back to Miss to coach after every season. When my 9th grader graduates- I probably will.

Come on. Let me know when you wanna play and we can compare skins on the wall. How blessed am I to talk to a so desired of a coach. Lebby should call you. Might wanna ease up on the personal attacks that you don?t have a clue about though bud. Not a great look for a man with skins

[BuckyIsAB****]

alot of people know who Thick is on here and got to watch him score a few TD's in maroon and white. He's earned it

I don?t. I didn?t come at him or you either though. Y?all did

[Coach34]

Come on. Let me know when you wanna play and we can compare skins on the wall. How blessed am I to talk to a so desired of a coach. Lebby should call you. Might wanna ease up on the personal attacks that you don?t have a clue about though bud. Not a great look for a man with skins

ok Rogers chill. U did a great job at Lamar.

[BuckyIsAB****]

ok Rogers chill. U did a great job at Lamar.

Swing and a miss. You can message me and not look like a total slap dick if you want.

[Tater]

Just checking in here to say I'm not drinking rn

[Activated Alpha]

Just checking in here to say I'm not drinking rn

Oh yeah umm me neither?.wink wink

[Tater]

Oh yeah umm me neither?.wink wink

Note: I did not specify whether i was drinking before. Just rn. Wink wink

[Brobi-wan]

This thread farther off the rails than the train the spilled all those chemicals in Ohio

[Skydawg1]

This is why I thank God for the Golf Channel this time of year. Hail State.

[confucius say]

Bullshit. We are literally 13th in the country in portal rankings. I guess Mississippi is 15th because thats all they could get? Tenn is 19th because thats all they could get?

LSU is 1 by a mile.
Mississippi is 2.
We are 35.

https://247sports.com/season/2026-football/transferteamrankings/

On3 is a ranking of the improvement in your current roster from last years roster is my understanding.

[Tater]

LSU is 1 by a mile.
Mississippi is 2.
We are 35.

https://247sports.com/season/2026-football/transferteamrankings/

On3 is a ranking of the improvement in your current roster from last years roster is my understanding.

On3 counts outgoing against ya.

[confucius say]

On3 counts outgoing against ya.

Yep. And according to what I read, it also just rates the improvement in rosters. If your roster graded out as most improved from the previous year, you are number 1.

[Tater]

Yep. And according to what I read, it also just rates the improvement in rosters. If your roster graded out as most improved from the previous year, you are number 1.

Yea they doing something weird bout re-rating every player on rosters. That's a huge endeavor that it's hard to imagine bias won't taint.

[Todd4State]

what quality LT's are still available?

We're going to roll with Sneh. He's not Seaton but I think he will do OK.

[Todd4State]

Yea they doing something weird bout re-rating every player on rosters. That's a huge endeavor that it's hard to imagine bias won't taint.

Portal rankings are probably an even more unexact science than high school rankings.

Nick Saban pretty much nailed it when he was talking about recruiting services.

[Coach34]

On3 is a ranking of the improvement in your current roster from last years roster is my understanding.

Well yeah- thats wtf this whole thing is about

[confucius say]

Well yeah- thats wtf this whole thing is about

A team that brings in C players to replace F players would be ranked way ahead of a team that brings in A players to replace B players.
The ranking is not necessarily indicative of your current talent level.

[Coach34]

A team that brings in C players to replace F players would be ranked way ahead of a team that brings in A players to replace B players.
The ranking is not necessarily indicative of your current talent level.

But it does show we have improved our team with more talent. We were never going to be upper level now that all schools spend money

[Todd4State]

A team that brings in C players to replace F players would be ranked way ahead of a team that brings in A players to replace B players.
The ranking is not necessarily indicative of your current talent level.

I know our fans don't want to hear it but it appears the plan is to build for a big 2027. That makes sense because KT will be a third year player and if we can keep a lot of these guys for multiple years it could help us save money to be even more aggressive in the portal.

If KT has a big year in 2026 it could definitely help attract players like Seaton in the future.

And this isn't Croom's seven year plan of going 3-8 and then go for a Liberty Bowl. The expectation is to win games now and at least be competitive. What we are doing now is how you build a team like Indiana did.

[Dawgface]

I know our fans don't want to hear it but it appears the plan is to build for a big 2027. That makes sense because KT will be a third year player and if we can keep a lot of these guys for multiple years it could help us save money to be even more aggressive in the portal.

If KT has a big year in 2026 it could definitely help attract players like Seaton in the future.

And this isn't Croom's seven year plan of going 3-8 and then go for a Liberty Bowl. The expectation is to win games now and at least be competitive. What we are doing now is how you build a team like Indiana did.

If KT has a big year someone will offer money he can’t refuse. Yep….poor old MSU thinking but reality.

[CaptainObvious]

If KT has a big year someone will offer money he can’t refuse. Yep….poor old MSU thinking but reality.

If KT has a big year and it means a good year for State, like 6-6 or 7-5, then State will offer him very good money to stay. If he loves State like says he does, he will play in Starkville for $2 mil. even if others offer more. I just believe this young man loves the Dogs!

[Todd4State]

If KT has a big year someone will offer money he can’t refuse. Yep….poor old MSU thinking but reality.

What local Mississippi player have we ever lost in the portal that we wanted to keep?

[Homedawg]

If KT has a big year and it means a good year for State, like 6-6 or 7-5, then State will offer him very good money to stay. If he loves State like says he does, he will play in Starkville for $2 mil. even if others offer more. I just believe this young man loves the Dogs!

If he has a good year 2 mil won't sniff keeping him. But we will do all we can to keep him. Feel confident in that.

[Coach34]

If he has a good year 2 mil won't sniff keeping him.

Exactly. If he has a big year- the blue bloods will got 6/7/8MM to get him

[msstate7]

Exactly. If he has a big year- the blue bloods will got 6/7/8MM to get him

I hope this is something we have to worry about

[Dawgface]

What local Mississippi player have we ever lost in the portal that we wanted to keep?
No idea as I don’t keep up with it like you guys. But common sense tells me that if someone offers him $1 mil or more than we do he’s gone. Schools are willing to pay big for difference makers at qb. I hope KT has a big year next year then we will see if we can keep him.

[Cowbeller]

If KT has a big year and it means a good year for State, like 6-6 or 7-5, then State will offer him very good money to stay. If he loves State like says he does, he will play in Starkville for $2 mil. even if others offer more. I just believe this young man loves the Dogs!

Can confirm this and wants to stay with his brother. They’re goal since they were little was to “bring a national championship to State” and they understood the weight of that statement

[DownwardDawg]

I hope this is something we have to worry about

Yeah, me too. It's like the last thing I'm worried about.

[Todd4State]

No idea as I don’t keep up with it like you guys. But common sense tells me that if someone offers him $1 mil or more than we do he’s gone. Schools are willing to pay big for difference makers at qb. I hope KT has a big year next year then we will see if we can keep him.

Based on Seaton alone we know we have some emergency fund money we can and will use. Maybe that ends up being the silver lining here?

Honestly though if what I have heard about KT is true, he is more likely to be a guy that gives up some of his NIL to help the team. Not saying we would ask him or expect him to because I know MSU will compensate him fairly.

I can tell you that Ole Miss tampered with him this past season and I'm sure others did too. He is still here, he has a starting position almost guaranteed here basically, his brother is here, he dreamed of playing here and he is close to home. MSU has a lot going for us with him.

[Coach34]

Can confirm this and wants to stay with his brother. They’re goal since they were little was to “bring a national championship to State” and they understood the weight of that statement

KT and his family are 100% State family. Completely. But LSU/Georgia/Blue Blood offering $7MM to come be their QB and a spot for his brother will be tough to turn down.

[Coach34]

What local Mississippi player have we ever lost in the portal that we wanted to keep?

What bigtime Mississippi player have we had in the NIL/Portal Era?

[Todd4State]

What bigtime Mississippi player have we had in the NIL/Portal Era?

Kamario, Isaac was courted heavily by Ole Miss this cycle, Kelley Jones...

[HancockCountyDog]

Y'all think it is an accident that we signed his brother and haven't processed Lockhart's brother. We are doing the smart thing with these two difference makers.

If either leaves, wherever they go, better take their brothers, because we sure enough won't be.

[Todd4State]

Y'all think it is an accident that we signed his brother and haven't processed Lockhart's brother. We are doing the smart thing with these two difference makers.

If either leaves, wherever they go, better take their brothers, because we sure enough won't be.

Jaiden Taylor is a legit prospect though. I'm pretty sure we offer him if he wasn't KT's brother. He can play CB or WR.