Princewill from TSUN in the portal

[Maroon Glasses]

Ole Miss star EDGE Princewill Umanmielen plans to enter the transfer portal.

He accumulated 45 tackles, 9 sacks, and 1 INT this season.

Copy and pasted from Twitter. Would be huge if we could get him. Big time player and getting him from them would be even better. Throw a blank check at him.

[Saltydog]

Bbbbut pothole Pete is going to keep all their players...........

[chef dixon]

It's hilarious how they were living off pure emotional momentum for 2 weeks. Don't need Lane and natty bound. Now that the dust has settled reality is setting in. I'm here for it

[BeardoMSU]

If Kewan also bolts (after "signing" a non-binding agreement they all bragged about) that would be delicious, lol

[Saltydog]

If Kewan also bolts (after "signing" a non-binding agreement they all bragged about) that would be delicious, lol

Please Lord let it happen. . . . .

[Coach34]

Hilarious how the NIL totals suddenly leaked out....wonder how that happened? Lame with some payback and chaos is breaking out.

[ZedFedder]

Hilarious how the NIL totals suddenly leaked out....wonder how that happened? Lame with some payback and chaos is breaking out.

And to do it right before the dead period. Lethal. I am not upset about it. They lost Womack and Dottery too

[BeardoMSU]

Hilarious how the NIL totals suddenly leaked out....wonder how that happened? Lame with some payback and chaos is breaking out.

Hell hath no fury as a premadonna's scorn****

[AlSwearengen]

Were these contracts for this past season that were leaked? I assumed it was the new contracts that they just started signing and I wouldn’t think Kiffin would have access to all of those. Ya’ll get me straight on this.

[Pancho]

Lane is involved for sure.

[Todd4State]

Hilarious how the NIL totals suddenly leaked out....wonder how that happened? Lame with some payback and chaos is breaking out.


And to do it right before the dead period. Lethal. I am not upset about it. They lost Womack and Dottery too

Ole Miss was insane for letting his staff come back. They brought this on themselves.

[Todd4State]

Were these contracts for this past season that were leaked? I assumed it was the new contracts that they just started signing and I wouldn’t think Kiffin would have access to all of those. Ya’ll get me straight on this.

I believe these are the new contracts. The theory is that this was leaked by a staffer that is going to LSU which is how they got access to the info- possibly through Lane. I'm sure they were negotiating contracts throughout the season.

[TheLostDawg]

I believe these are the new contracts. The theory is that this was leaked by a staffer that is going to LSU which is how they got access to the info- possibly through Lane. I'm sure they were negotiating contracts throughout the season.

Possibly as if it was other means then it likely would have made it to public knowledge by now

[Pancho]

Echols was seen on campus in BR today.........just visiting I bet

[parabrave]

If they don't get Chambliss back, ouch. LK coming back to Vaught will be the most watched game in a long while,

[Todd4State]

Echols was seen on campus in BR today.........just visiting I bet

Did he enter the portal?

[Todd4State]

If they don't get Chambliss back, ouch. LK coming back to Vaught will be the most watched game in a long while,

Their whole season hinges on Chambliss.

[Pancho]

Did he enter the portal?

Not sure. Might be taking advantage of waiting til wednesday

[msudawg1200]

According to On3 and 247 he is in the portal. Princewell that is. As of now Echols is not.

[Todd4State]

According to On3 and 247 he is in the portal. Princewell that is. As of now Echols is not.

Not sure how Echols could be unless he entered and didn't announce.

[Pancho]

Several of their guys are just nervous that trinidad might not get cleared.

[EdwardDrayton]

Several of their guys are just nervous that trinidad might not get cleared.

Interesting that Rick Cleveland felt the need to speculate in a published article Chambliss will get another year.

[AlSwearengen]

Interesting that Rick Cleveland felt the need to speculate in a published article Chambliss will get another year.

It seems that there are no rules to anything anymore; don’t get your way, just find the right judge. I was surprised he was denied initially.

[msstate7]

It seems that there are no rules to anything anymore; don’t get your way, just find the right judge. I was surprised he was denied initially.

He's been denied twice, maybe even 3 times.

[confucius say]

Judge whitwell is a Mississippi alumn and a fan. And he's elected.
No way he doesn't rule in Trinidad favor.

Would you rule in KT favor if it was his case?

[msstate7]

Judge whitwell is a Mississippi alumn and a fan. And he's elected.
No way he doesn't rule in Trinidad favor.

Would you rule in KT favor if it was his case?

This doesn't seem right. If it were this simple, every player that gets turned down would sue in their district.

ETA... what power does the court have to overrule the ncaa's ruling?

ETA2... just saw the Rutgers player sue and judge get him eligibility. Not sure these cases are similar

[Todd4State]

Judge whitwell is a Mississippi alumn and a fan. And he's elected.
No way he doesn't rule in Trinidad favor.

Would you rule in KT favor if it was his case?

I figure the NCAA will take it to a federal court after that inevitable ruling.

[Pancho]

I figure the NCAA will take it to a federal court after that inevitable ruling.

When would a federal court hear the case? Will he be allowed to be a team member and participate if the fed hearing is put off until say early November? Just wondering how all this works and if Trinidad is receiving his initial 26 cash installments.

[Goldendawg]

I figure the NCAA will take it to a federal court after that inevitable ruling.

During the Tyler years, we got an injunction from a local judge allowing Larry Gillard and Richard Blackmore (I think) to continue playing. The MS Supreme Court, probably all OM grads, ruled against us on appeal. We were forced to forfeit 19 games, which still count against our overall record as losses, even though we won on the field.

This will drag on as long as the NCAA wants to get it overturned if found in Chambliss's favor at any level.

[HancockCountyDog]

I figure the NCAA will take it to a federal court after that inevitable ruling.

I don't know how they can appeal a Chancery Court decision to a federal court.

[HancockCountyDog]

It is my understanding that the goal isn't to get a ruling - its to get a Temporary Restraining Order.

You get that - he can then play.

You would need to then have an actual hearing on the merits of the underlying case to have that set aside. That can take a bunch of time, and by next December its a moot point.

At that point, the only thing that would matter is if the NCAA would care about having the wins 'forfeited'.

A real lawyer can correct me if I'm wrong.

[msstate7]

It is my understanding that the goal isn't to get a ruling - its to get a Temporary Restraining Order.

You get that - he can then play.

You would need to then have an actual hearing on the merits of the underlying case to have that set aside. That can take a bunch of time, and by next December its a moot point.

At that point, the only thing that would matter is if the NCAA would care about having the wins 'forfeited'.

A real lawyer can correct me if I'm wrong.

If it's this simple, why does any team accept no for an answer from the ncaa?

[confucius say]

If it's this simple, why does any team accept no for an answer from the ncaa?

Because you have to get a judge to rule in your favor, and usually there's very little evidence to get that.
The ncaa should win this with a neutral judge, but that is not the case here.

Also, can only go to federal court if there is a federal law claim (there is not here) or the parties "reside" in different states (they don't here because the ncaa is said to reside wherever its members are, which is in all 50 states). But with no federal law antitrust claim, PL argument is harder to make here. They are banking on a OM fan as the judge.

More of these are being filed in state courts because PL lawyers know they are more likely to get less sophisticated judges who have allegiance to the teams than if filed in federal court. That is the case here. Trinidad's actual claim sucks, but he has a judge who is a fan.

[msstate7]

Because you have to get a judge to rule in your favor, and usually there's very little evidence to get that.
The ncaa should win this with a neutral judge, but that is not the case here.

Also, can only go to federal court if there is a federal law claim (there is not here) or the parties "reside" in different states (they don't here because the ncaa is said to reside wherever its members are, which is in all 50 states). But with no federal law antitrust claim, PL argument is harder to make here. They are banking on a OM fan as the judge.

More of these are being filed in state courts because PL lawyers know they are more likely to get less sophisticated judges who have allegiance to the teams than if filed in federal court. That is the case here. Trinidad's actual claim sucks, but he has a judge who is a fan.

Surely the defendant will ask him to recuse himself

[Pancho]

Nah. a temporary order will be filed and a date will be set in january of 27. end of story

[confucius say]

Surely the defendant will ask him to recuse himself

They can. And the judge decides if he wants to grant it or not. He has the discretion. A lot of judges get pissed when you ask.

You also have the issue of who it gets reassigned to if he does.
All the judges are probably state or Mississippi fans. Small state. And one of only a small few with elected judges.

[HancockCountyDog]

If it's this simple, why does any team accept no for an answer from the ncaa?

Depends on how important the player is.

[msstate7]

They can. And the judge decides if he wants to grant it or not. He has the discretion. A lot of judges get pissed when you ask.

You also have the issue of who it gets reassigned to if he does.
All the judges are probably state or Mississippi fans. Small state. And one of only a small few with elected judges.

It could be as simple as this, but something seems amiss in this to me. I mean in theory, couldn't they have sued the ncaa in the same way when the ncaa leveled the penalties against them and freeze?

[confucius say]

It could be as simple as this, but something seems amiss in this to me. I mean in theory, couldn't they have sued the ncaa in the same way when the ncaa leveled the penalties against them and freeze?

Who is they? Freeze? Sure he could have tried.
This is a player, not Mississippi, suing the ncaa under a breach of contract theory wherein he alleges that the ncaa had a contract with Mississippi and the ncaa breached said contract which harmed Chambliss.
The argument is Chambliss, even though he was not a party to the contract, was a third party beneficiary of the contract and thus has standing to sue.
It's a tenuous argument. But in front of a judge who is a fan of Chambliss and Mississippi.

[bgover4]

Princewell to LSU

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/lane-kiffin-pulls-off-historic-feat-in-landing-commitment-from-princewill-umanmielen/ar-AA1UFs1M?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=6970f845d11548ab92e19b6caf186f7f&ei=149

[Thick]

How many players has LK taken from OM this portal season?

[Pancho]

3 or 4

[confucius say]

Got their best edge and best LB. Defensive guys. Interesting.

[Todd4State]

Got their best edge and best LB. Defensive guys. Interesting.

Actually makes a lot of sense to me. I don't know how high Kiffin really was on Chambliss. I would think if he was he wouldn't have started Simmons over him to start with.

The interesting thing to me to watch is Echoles was apparently visiting LSU recently although I haven't seen where he has entered the portal.

[Pancho]

He was cruising with Princewill