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BlackSailsDawg
12-09-2025, 06:18 PM
Saban didn't have to fire too many. His coaches were getting poached. But yes Saban firing a coach would be a good thing. However, that's not an level comparison.

It's very comparative. After his first season at Bama, he replaced 2. 2007–2010 period, a total of 14 different coaches occupied 9 assistant‑slots. And that trend was always present. 3 coaches remained from the 2018 staff, out of 10 total on‑field assistant spots, for 2019.

Over Saban’s tenure, roughly 41 full-time on‑the‑field assistant coaches have passed through Alabama’s staff.

So Lebby should not be as demanding????

Todd4State
12-09-2025, 06:32 PM
Wasn’t Bumphis pulled over from Arnett? Pretty sure we had awful receivers that year.

He was on the staff during the redacted year of 2023.

Todd4State
12-09-2025, 06:43 PM
Someone on 24/7 said he is hearing that Spurrier, Jr is interviewing for the WR job. It's not Steve and it's a random poster who I haven't seen share info before. So not sure how reliable.

Thick
12-09-2025, 06:45 PM
Kevin Thompson added to the coaching staff. Did yall already cover this?

https://admin.hailstate.com/news/2025/12/9/football-mississippi-state-brings-home-elite-recruiter-and-mississippi-native-kevie-thompson

Thick
12-09-2025, 06:54 PM
No idea why the link is dead, but says he?s the assistant DB/Nickels.

StarkVegasSteve
12-09-2025, 07:24 PM
No idea why the link is dead, but says he?s the assistant DB/Nickels.

Yes. He was hired yesterday as asst secondary coach. His actual position in undetermined at this time.

Thick
12-09-2025, 07:27 PM
Yes. He was hired yesterday as asst secondary coach. His actual position in undetermined at this time.

Yesterday?! Damn

Chuck3124
12-09-2025, 07:29 PM
Any new word on Nix or Holecek?s potential replacement?

Pancho
12-09-2025, 07:38 PM
Nix is interested in going to usm with freeze if it happens

Chuck3124
12-09-2025, 07:41 PM
Nix is interested in going to usm with freeze if it happens

So we need freeze not to get that job. Got it lol

Todd4State
12-09-2025, 07:44 PM
So we need freeze not to get that job. Got it lol

That might open up Blake Anderson for us.

KB21
12-10-2025, 09:38 AM
Will anything come out today about anymore coaching changes?

StarkVegasSteve
12-10-2025, 09:58 AM
Will anything come out today about anymore coaching changes?

I would be surprised. I doubt we see any movement of anything substantial until the bowl game or after. Doesn't mean that we're waiting til then to interview or hire, just that we won't publicly announce anything.

KB21
12-10-2025, 10:40 AM
They officially announced Matt Brock. It?s interesting that he is linebackers coach and co-defensive coordinator.

KB21
12-10-2025, 10:43 AM
I suspect that Matt Barnes will be moving on and that we will have a new safeties coach.

Coursesuper
12-10-2025, 10:46 AM
I suspect that Matt Barnes will be moving on and that we will have a new safeties coach.

I’d be willing to bet Arnett takes the safeties to free up a spot.

KB21
12-10-2025, 10:49 AM
Well shit. We just hired Bush Hamden as associate head coach of offense.

StarkVegasSteve
12-10-2025, 10:54 AM
This is going to be basically what Joe Judge did for Kiffin his first year. He'll work with the QBs but won't actually be the QB coach. My guess is that he's an analyst without being called an analyst.

Thick
12-10-2025, 10:57 AM
Never heard of this fella until I googled him. Meh

mparkerfd20
12-10-2025, 10:57 AM
Well shit. We just hired Bush Hamden as associate head coach of offense.

Has a hell of a nice resume. I'd assume off the field.

KB21
12-10-2025, 10:57 AM
This is going to be basically what Joe Judge did for Kiffin his first year. He'll work with the QBs but won't actually be the QB coach. My guess is that he's an analyst without being called an analyst.

It?s odd because Hamden has never been a veer and shoot guy. He?s actually more of an outside zone pro style.

BlackSailsDawg
12-10-2025, 11:00 AM
Well shit. We just hired Bush Hamden as associate head coach of offense.


I think he is well versed in this system.

StarkVegasSteve
12-10-2025, 11:01 AM
It?s odd because Hamden has never been a veer and shoot guy. He?s actually more of an outside zone pro style.

Which is probably why we have him such a broad title. He will help with the QBs but be able to have his hand in the offense as a whole.

KB21
12-10-2025, 11:01 AM
The release says he has a history of QB and WR development

BlackSailsDawg
12-10-2025, 11:02 AM
Has a hell of a nice resume. I'd assume off the field.

He's expected to work with the Qbs.

Chuck3124
12-10-2025, 11:06 AM
Which is probably why we have him such a broad title. He will help with the QBs but be able to have his hand in the offense as a whole.


Is this Holecek?s replacement or just a new analyst hire?

Todd4State
12-10-2025, 11:07 AM
It's an interesting hire. I know Kentucky struggled this year on offense but not a big concern with Lebby calling plays. He has some NFL experience so that's a plus since he is coaching QB's.

Cowbeller
12-10-2025, 11:07 AM
We said build around KaMario and I think the Bush announcement does just that

Todd4State
12-10-2025, 11:10 AM
Which is probably why we have him such a broad title. He will help with the QBs but be able to have his hand in the offense as a whole.

Is Arnett going to be in the situation I wonder? We need a DL coach. We have Vincent coaching EDGE. We now have Brock with a co-DC essentially and LB's. We have Bell coaching corners. We have Barnes coaching safeties for now anyway. And we just hired Kevin for DB's. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's 7 spots for defensive coaches. And we need a WR coach and someone to coach special teams.

The math isn't mathing here.

BrunswickDawg
12-10-2025, 11:12 AM
Which is probably why we have him such a broad title. He will help with the QBs but be able to have his hand in the offense as a whole.

Keep in mind that the limit on number of coaches does not exist anymore.
The only limit is that we can only designate 11 people for recruiting.

msstate7
12-10-2025, 11:15 AM
Keep in mind that the limit on number of coaches does not exist anymore.
The only limit is that we can only designate 11 people for recruiting.

Ohio state, Georgia, bama, lsu, Michigan - "Alright guys now let's break up into one-on-one coaching sessions now that every player has a coach"

StarkVegasSteve
12-10-2025, 11:42 AM
Is this Holecek?s replacement or just a new analyst hire?

New analyst. This is basically what Joe Judge did at OM his first year.

Turfdawg67
12-10-2025, 12:03 PM
Never heard of this fella until I googled him. Meh

But of course. No one has...

KB21
12-10-2025, 12:41 PM
Could L'Damian Washington be a WR coach target? Worked with Hamden this year and in 2020. Was WR coach and passing game coordinator for Golesh in 2024.

StarkVegasSteve
12-10-2025, 01:09 PM
Could L'Damian Washington be a WR coach target? Worked with Hamden this year and in 2020. Was WR coach and passing game coordinator for Golesh in 2024.

Target? Yes. I think he is a decent ways down the list though. Probably 4 or 5.

Jarius
12-10-2025, 01:51 PM
Is Arnett going to be in the situation I wonder? We need a DL coach. We have Vincent coaching EDGE. We now have Brock with a co-DC essentially and LB's. We have Bell coaching corners. We have Barnes coaching safeties for now anyway. And we just hired Kevin for DB's. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's 7 spots for defensive coaches. And we need a WR coach and someone to coach special teams.

The math isn't mathing here.

Kevie is not going to be the main DB coach. Just an assistant to the assitant type deal. As others said, we can have as many coaches as we want now. Just a limit on how many can recruit.

StarkVegasSteve
12-10-2025, 02:00 PM
Kevie is not going to be the main DB coach. Just an assistant to the assitant type deal. As others said, we can have as many coaches as we want now. Just a limit on how many can recruit.

Correct. You can only have, I believe, 10 assistants to recruit. And you only have 15 headsets for coaches, not GAs, on gameday.

But I mean most teams today are going to have 12-151 analysts and QC guys. We had around 10 last year.

This guy is probably not going to have an official position title.

BrunswickDawg
12-10-2025, 02:58 PM
Correct. You can only have, I believe, 10 assistants to recruit. And you only have 15 headsets for coaches, not GAs, on gameday.

But I mean most teams today are going to have 12-151 analysts and QC guys. We had around 10 last year.

This guy is probably not going to have an official position title.

Kevie is the Assistant Defensive Backs/Nickle Coach - says it right there in the press release.

But, yes, we are going to see more hybrid assistant/analyst types who work on a more detailed aspect (like Nickle Coverage).
Frankly, I would load up on young guys who traditionally have been GA's - ideally our own former players - and give them an Assistant to the Assistant Regional Manager Title and have someone like Knox teach them how to Coach.
It's probably our best way to build a pipeline of coaching talent.

StarkVegasSteve
12-10-2025, 03:07 PM
Kevie is the Assistant Defensive Backs/Nickle Coach - says it right there in the press release.

But, yes, we are going to see more hybrid assistant/analyst types who work on a more detailed aspect (like Nickle Coverage).
Frankly, I would load up on young guys who traditionally have been GA's - ideally our own former players - and give them an Assistant to the Assistant Regional Manager Title and have someone like Knox teach them how to Coach.
It's probably our best way to build a pipeline of coaching talent.

I was talking about the new offensive hire. Yea Kevie is Assistant DB coach.

Chuck3124
12-11-2025, 09:40 PM
Anybody heard anything on Darrell Wyatt or Cale Gundy for WR coach?

KB21
12-11-2025, 10:22 PM
I would be very surprised to see Cale Gundy leave Oklahoma. Darrell Wyatt though coached with Lebby at UCF, so I could see that one.

Todd4State
12-11-2025, 11:39 PM
I would be very surprised to see Cale Gundy leave Oklahoma. Darrell Wyatt though coached with Lebby at UCF, so I could see that one.

Cale Gundy hasn't coached since 2022. That would be a surprise.

Tater
12-12-2025, 12:37 AM
I would be very surprised to see Cale Gundy leave Oklahoma. Darrell Wyatt though coached with Lebby at UCF, so I could see that one.

You live under a rock or something.

I'm drunk rn so take this with that thought in mind but lmfao at hiring Cale Gundy.

StarkVegasSteve
12-12-2025, 09:23 AM
You live under a rock or something.

I'm drunk rn so take this with that thought in mind but lmfao at hiring Cale Gundy.

Yea I like Cale a lot as a person, but his coaching days are done. He hung it up when Venables came in

Tater
12-12-2025, 09:38 AM
Yea I like Cale a lot as a person, but his coaching days are done. He hung it up when Venables came in

That's uhh... one way to describe it.

And to be clear and in front of the inevitable political shitstorm this convo could bring up. He was part of the lack of situational awareness and old guard under OU that had let things fester that BV was brought into cleaning up. He was a great person to make an example firing of and whether or not you agree with firing him for what he did - he should have had more situational awareness. Period.

I'm gonna cut us off on discussing it further because Scoob will have to come bonk us with ban hammers if we do. Not you specifically Steve, other folks (and me to be fair) got their keyboards revving up once they do the research.

StarkVegasSteve
12-12-2025, 09:43 AM
That's uhh... one way to describe it.

I was trying to be nice. I like Cale so I don't want his entire career impacted by one moment.

Tater
12-12-2025, 09:44 AM
Back to the topic - I'm a bit hungover this morning - but I have an idea on cleaning up the first post. Also off work today so I'll do that when I get around to it today.

KB21
12-12-2025, 09:47 AM
I have an idea where that came from, and it has more to do with finding a name that has coached with Lebby before than it is with being an actual rumor. Wyatt could be legit, but Gundy? No.

Really Clark?
12-12-2025, 09:48 AM
Back to the topic - I'm a bit hungover this morning - but I have an idea on cleaning up the first post. Also off work today so I'll do that when I get around to it today.

Tater is hungover on a Friday? Shocking!!!

StarkVegasSteve
12-12-2025, 09:51 AM
I think L'Damian Washington can probably be added to the list of potential WR targets. Doesn't look like Stein will retain him at Kentucky.

Tater
12-12-2025, 09:57 AM
Tater is hungover on a Friday? Shocking!!!

4 day weekend and work suuuuuuucked this week. Also I concocted a ridiculous egg nog mix that does the ****in job. 1/4 Fireball Yule Nog, 1/4 Screwball Peanut butter nog, 1/4 2% Milk, 1/8 Crown Chocolate, 1/8 Crown Vanilla.

Really Clark?
12-12-2025, 11:09 AM
4 day weekend and work suuuuuuucked this week. Also I concocted a ridiculous egg nog mix that does the ****in job. 1/4 Fireball Yule Nog, 1/4 Screwball Peanut butter nog, 1/4 2% Milk, 1/8 Crown Chocolate, 1/8 Crown Vanilla.

I should say so!!! Sounds pretty good though.

TStationDawg
12-12-2025, 11:10 AM
I should say so!!! Sounds pretty good though.

WHEW! I got a headache just reading that! LOL

KB21
12-12-2025, 11:16 AM
Going back to earlier in the thread, I think it was BankerDog that mentioned three names. Derrick Nix, Malcolm Kelly, and Shay Hodge. Are we still thinking it's one of those three names?

KB21
12-12-2025, 11:21 AM
https://x.com/ZachAbolverdi/status/1999119498025087248?s=20

This says Nix is looking at Florida and "one other program".

StarkVegasSteve
12-12-2025, 11:45 AM
https://x.com/ZachAbolverdi/status/1999119498025087248?s=20

This says Nix is looking at Florida and "one other program".

The other program is us as of now. I think OM may try to get in the mix at some point but for now it's us and Florida.

StarkVegasSteve
12-12-2025, 11:47 AM
Going back to earlier in the thread, I think it was BankerDog that mentioned three names. Derrick Nix, Malcolm Kelly, and Shay Hodge. Are we still thinking it's one of those three names?

You can cross Shay Hodge's name off the list. We are not hiring the WR coach at Jackson Academy to be a P4 position coach.

StarkVegasSteve
12-12-2025, 11:51 AM
L'Damian Washington has been followed by a few of our receivers recently. I think that may be the hire.

Just a quick background: originally from Shreveport. Played at Mizzou for Gary Pinkel and was really good. Bounced around practice squads and the CFL for a couple of years and got into coaching. Was with Lebby at OU in 2022. Just let go at Kentucky and was with Golesh at USF last year.

CaptainObvious
12-12-2025, 11:52 AM
L'Damian Washington has been followed by a few of our receivers recently. I think that may be the hire.

Just a quick background: originally from Shreveport. Played at Mizzou for Gary Pinkel and was really good. Bounced around practice squads and the CFL for a couple of years and got into coaching. Was with Lebby at OU in 2022. Just let go at Kentucky and was with Golesh at USF last year.

So it could be between us and Auburn?

StarkVegasSteve
12-12-2025, 11:55 AM
So it could be between us and Auburn?

Auburn is not in the running for him to my knowledge.

Todd4State
12-12-2025, 12:08 PM
Auburn is not in the running for him to my knowledge.

I wonder if there is a possibility we get Nix and Washington? I mean Lebby is going completely rogue right now so why not?

StarkVegasSteve
12-12-2025, 12:13 PM
I wonder if there is a possibility we get Nix and Washington? I mean Lebby is going completely rogue right now so why not?

It's not out of the realm. I know Auburn is courting Anthony Tucker very hard to be their RB coach. Golesh and Tucker were together at UCF in 2020 after Lebby left for Ole Miss. So that would open up RB coach.

HailState2008
12-12-2025, 12:35 PM
Saban didn't have to fire too many. His coaches were getting poached. But yes Saban firing a coach would be a good thing. However, that's not an level comparison.

I like Bumphis and all but he couldn?t keep his mouth shut and letting out information that the head honcho did not want public. All programs have sources on the inside but said sources should all be on the same page of what information should become public. If I can?t trust a member of my team, it shows he or she doesn?t respect my leadership.

basedog
12-12-2025, 02:20 PM
I like Bumphis and all but he couldn?t keep his mouth shut and letting out information that the head honcho did not want public. All programs have sources on the inside but said sources should all be on the same page of what information should become public. If I can?t trust a member of my team, it shows he or she doesn?t respect my leadership.

Totally agree!

KB21
12-12-2025, 07:02 PM
It may not mean anything, but we have a bunch of Mississippi State players and staff following L?Damian Washington on X.

confucius say
12-12-2025, 07:04 PM
I wish we would hire a run game coordinator. We need more sophistication there. Tired of Y insert inside zone.

Todd4State
12-12-2025, 08:45 PM
It's interesting that Washington has a history of being a motivational speaker.

KB21
12-12-2025, 09:38 PM
All signs are pointing towards L'Damian Washington being the WR coach.

BigDawg81
12-12-2025, 09:54 PM
He is at a different place every year except at USF. He was there for 2 years.

KB21
12-13-2025, 08:02 AM
A week ago at this time, we got the shocker of all shocking moves announced when Pete Thamel tweeted that Zach Arnett was the target for the defensive coordinator job. Will we get any moves today that are "shocking"?

DEDawg
12-13-2025, 08:50 AM
A week ago at this time, we got the shocker of all shocking moves announced when Pete Thamel tweeted that Zach Arnett was the target for the defensive coordinator job. Will we get any moves today that are "shocking"?

I am hearing Jeremy Shockey is a name being leaked for TE Coach

EdwardDrayton
12-13-2025, 10:05 AM
4 day weekend and work suuuuuuucked this week. Also I concocted a ridiculous egg nog mix that does the ****in job. 1/4 Fireball Yule Nog, 1/4 Screwball Peanut butter nog, 1/4 2% Milk, 1/8 Crown Chocolate, 1/8 Crown Vanilla.

Jesus. Dual purpose solution. Drink it while you use it to take the rust off a chrome bumper.

Tater
12-13-2025, 01:31 PM
Jesus. Dual purpose solution. Drink it while you use it to take the rust off a chrome bumper.

It's only about 30 proof / 15%. It just is smooth so you can drink copious amounts. Which yea - egg nog be like that.

Tater
12-13-2025, 01:34 PM
I am hearing Jeremy Shockey is a name being leaked for TE Coach

Well whoever leaked that got flushed out as a rat. That's more ridiculous than the Arnett hire. Unless there's some other jeremy shockey I don't know about who hasn't officially coached college at any point and just bought a $5 million dollar house in Miami.

Todd4State
12-13-2025, 01:49 PM
Sounds like Washington might not happen for WR coach after all.

DEDawg
12-13-2025, 01:55 PM
Well whoever leaked that got flushed out as a rat. That's more ridiculous than the Arnett hire. Unless there's some other jeremy shockey I don't know about who hasn't officially coached college at any point and just bought a $5 million dollar house in Miami.
Whoosh

Tater
12-13-2025, 02:00 PM
Whoosh

I'll take Tater is hungover and definitely didn't look at what you commented for $800, Alex.

DEDawg
12-13-2025, 02:27 PM
I'll take Tater is hungover and definitely didn't look at what you commented for $800, Alex.

lol was a bad joke to start with no worries

BigDawg81
12-13-2025, 02:30 PM
Sounds like Washington might not happen for WR coach after all.
Supposed to be a decision day

HoopsDawg
12-13-2025, 02:32 PM
Sounds like Washington might not happen for WR coach after all.

I dont understand firing Bump without a replacement lined up.

Coursesuper
12-13-2025, 02:42 PM
I dont understand firing Bump without a replacement lined up.

When someone in your organization can’t follow the most simple rule “ keep it all in house” you can’t trust them with anything else. They have to go. At least he found a soft landing.

Tater
12-13-2025, 03:08 PM
I dont understand firing Bump without a replacement lined up.

Who's to say we don't have one lined up? Everyone we've announced hiring has had their season end. 80 teams still have a game left on their schedule. Sources are dry because we have a staff that values moving in silence. Part of why Bump
just doesn't fit this program right now (whether you agree with it or not).

Coach34
12-13-2025, 03:29 PM
Who's to say we don't have one lined up? Everyone we've announced hiring has had their season end. 80 teams still have a game left on their schedule. Sources are dry because we have a staff that values moving in silence. Part of why Bump
just doesn't fit this program right now (whether you agree with it or not).

Damn- I actually agree with Tater. We could easily have a deal in place with someone but cant announce yet. We have guys contacting croots and watching portal film probably 10 hours a day right now. Not just sitting on our hands

HoopsDawg
12-13-2025, 03:36 PM
Damn- I actually agree with Tater. We could easily have a deal in place with someone but cant announce yet. We have guys contacting croots and watching portal film probably 10 hours a day right now. Not just sitting on our hands

It does not appear we have a coach lined up but maybe it?s faulty reporting by our media.

Coursesuper
12-13-2025, 03:40 PM
It does not appear we have a coach lined up but maybe it?s faulty reporting by our media.

Bro, our media doesn’t know shat. They will only know when they are given the info. Things just don’t get out much from this current staff.

Todd4State
12-13-2025, 04:17 PM
Bro, our media doesn’t know shat. They will only know when they are given the info. Things just don’t get out much from this current staff.

The reporters and their minions crying about not having access in the offseason probably didn't help with that either.

KB21
12-13-2025, 04:37 PM
It makes sense if Malcolm Kelly is the hire. Waiting on TCU to finish.

Coach34
12-13-2025, 06:00 PM
It does not appear we have a coach lined up but maybe it?s faulty reporting by our media.

after KT starting leaked and Bump found out the consequences- nothing is going to get out right now unless they want it to

Todd4State
12-13-2025, 10:15 PM
Now it sounds like Washington is going to Ole Miss.

I wonder if this opens the door for Derrick Nix?

Pancho
12-14-2025, 09:41 AM
It's possible but I pretty sure he wants another job but this mat be the last best option he has. Ole miss will swap RB coaches with LSU so I guess Lacey goes to BR as well. Washington does seem to be in with the plantation.

KOdawg1
12-14-2025, 10:31 AM
Now it sounds like Washington is going to Ole Miss.

I wonder if this opens the door for Derrick Nix?

He's got opportunities at Bama, Florida, and probably OM before us

Pancho
12-14-2025, 10:46 AM
Nix is out of the mix in oxfart. I figure we are last on his wish list but there are currently no strong guarantees that he lands at bama or florida either. ole mis has a WR coach, a RB coach and a new OC so he is out with the sharts. He made a pitch to the sharts as OC but they didn't pat him any attention and went with the intellectual Dr Baker who has experience with TE's to run the vaunted Pete "glue" golding offense.

Coach34
12-14-2025, 12:35 PM
Mississippi thinks they have landed Washington

Pancho
12-14-2025, 02:12 PM
Mississippi thinks they have landed Washington

that's why i said ole mis has a WR coach

BigDawg81
12-14-2025, 04:07 PM
Mississippi thinks they have landed Washington

Ole Miss hired Spurlock as their WR coach

Santiago
12-14-2025, 04:25 PM
Ole Miss hired Spurlock as their WR coach

Petey playing 3d Backgammon ***

Pancho
12-14-2025, 05:26 PM
lawd they either lying now or have no idea what petey is up to

Brobi-wan
12-14-2025, 06:52 PM
lawd they either lying now or have no idea what petey is up to

Maybe he doesn’t have any idea what he is up to either.

Todd4State
12-14-2025, 10:27 PM
Now Washington is officially going to Ole Miss.

Hopefully we won't melt about this on this board like some are doing on other boards right now.

BigDawg81
12-14-2025, 10:42 PM
Now Washington is officially going to Ole Miss.

Hopefully we won't melt about this on this board like some are doing on other boards right now.

Maybe not on this board hopefully. A lot of people are though. I don’t know anything about Washington other than he never stays at one place too long. I guess he’s a good recruiter.

Todd4State
12-14-2025, 11:17 PM
Maybe not on this board hopefully. A lot of people are though. I don’t know anything about Washington other than he never stays at one place too long. I guess he’s a good recruiter.

Yeah. I won't sugar coat it- I think he is a good coach. He is also a guy that moves around a lot.

At the end of the day it's a WR coach. I'm much more interested in who we hire than who we don't.

BigDawg81
12-14-2025, 11:35 PM
Yeah. I won't sugar coat it- I think he is a good coach. He is also a guy that moves around a lot.

At the end of the day it's a WR coach. I'm much more interested in who we hire than who we don't.
I’m much more concerned about a DL coach. I think there are plenty of WR coaches out there that would be a good hire. Even Billy Gonzales wouldn’t be a bad hire.

Todd4State
12-15-2025, 12:21 AM
I’m much more concerned about a DL coach. I think there are plenty of WR coaches out there that would be a good hire. Even Billy Gonzales wouldn’t be a bad hire.

Gonzales was a pretty bad recruiter. I don't think Lebby would put up with that for long unlike Dan.

I do think DL is critical because that's really what is going to determine how much improvement our DL is going to make next year.

StarkVegasSteve
12-15-2025, 09:32 AM
I?m much more concerned about a DL coach. I think there are plenty of WR coaches out there that would be a good hire. Even Billy Gonzales wouldn?t be a bad hire.

Billy would be a terrible hire. TERRIBLE. He's a terrible recruiter and our WRs weren't very good under him. I mean he had 3 years to teach De'Runnya Wilson how to be a receiver and in year 3 we still could only call 3 plays for De'Runnya: slant, fly, block out. He didn't know the difference between a curl, hitch, and comeback so he ran them all the same.

I do agree with you about DL being more important though. That's a massive hire.

Turfdawg67
12-15-2025, 10:13 AM
Now Washington is officially going to Ole Miss.

Hopefully we won't melt about this on this board like some are doing on other boards right now.

Nah, most of us are just calloused over. Nothing surprising about this.

TrapGame
12-15-2025, 10:18 AM
I am sure all the OM coaches will be job hunting this time next year.

StarkVegasSteve
12-15-2025, 10:23 AM
Now Washington is officially going to Ole Miss.

Hopefully we won't melt about this on this board like some are doing on other boards right now.

I think some in our fan base just latch on to a name and convince themselves that he's the best candidate out there. I mean I would venture to guess that 10% of our fan base, and probably less, knew who L'Damian Washington was Thursday afternoon.

KB21
12-15-2025, 10:27 AM
I think some in our fan base just latch on to a name and convince themselves that he's the best candidate out there. I mean I would venture to guess that 10% of our fan base, and probably less, knew who L'Damian Washington was Thursday afternoon.

This is 100% a fact. The initial melt was because no one knew who Washington was. When they found out that he was being courted by us, Ole Miss, Alabama, Florida, and Ohio State, their tune changed. Now, they are melting because we didn't get him. However, most of this does stem from the fact that some are just mad that Bumphis was dismissed.

Goldendawg
12-15-2025, 12:17 PM
This is 100% a fact. The initial melt was because no one knew who Washington was. When they found out that he was being courted by us, Ole Miss, Alabama, Florida, and Ohio State, their tune changed. Now, they are melting because we didn't get him. However, most of this does stem from the fact that some are just mad that Bumphis was dismissed.

We just had another of the 24 or so WR's on this year's roster enter the portal (Thus far,biggest number of portal entries). Someone has done a terrible job of evaluation in this group, as only Thompson and Evans stepped up this year. There is no longer time to develop players, keeping them two or more years, even if they will $tay.

BorneDawg
12-15-2025, 12:42 PM
Hey Golden, can you in your spare time list who's coming back next year or is it already in a thread somewhere?

RezDog7
12-15-2025, 02:34 PM
I am sure all the OM coaches will be job hunting this time next year.

Could be the same in Starkville

TrapGame
12-15-2025, 02:45 PM
Could be the same in Starkville

I doubt it. Having a competent defensive coordinator complimenting a competent offense with a talented, young QB is a winning recipe. OM is taking two steps back at least.

Tater
12-15-2025, 03:05 PM
I doubt it. Having a competent defensive coordinator complimenting a competent offense with a talented, young QB is a winning recipe. OM is taking two steps back at least.

Right now both us and Ole Miss go into next year with 2 guaranteed wins and 0 guaranteed losses. (You could argue they have 1 guaranteed loss). They've definitely already taken the 2 steps back and it could get ugly.

Right now we're both in similar standing with our trajectory pointed upward and theirs pointed downward and the portal will show if that to be reality.

If we flop on lines - 2-10 is possible. If they flop and lose most of their talent to the portal, 2-10 is very possible for them.

Pancho
12-15-2025, 04:15 PM
They are employing the "over pay" on everybody approach to keep everyone in with lil Petey

Brobi-wan
12-15-2025, 10:21 PM
They are employing the "over pay" on everybody approach to keep everyone in with lil Petey

Talent has to have coaches

StarkVegasSteve
12-16-2025, 11:35 AM
Frank Wilson seems to be heading to Oxford to be the new RB coach at OM. That takes Derrick Nix completely out of the running at OM. So it will be down to us and Bama for WR coach and also Florida for RB coach.

BigDawg81
12-16-2025, 11:55 AM
Frank Wilson seems to be heading to Oxford to be the new RB coach at OM. That takes Derrick Nix completely out of the running at OM. So it will be down to us and Bama for WR coach and also Florida for RB coach.

We are going to end up with Farmer Fran aren’t we?

Really Clark?
12-16-2025, 12:13 PM
We are going to end up with Farmer Fran aren’t we?

Not as WR coach!! He would be a DL coach if anything. He and Orgeron have the same philosophy.

CaptainObvious
12-16-2025, 02:16 PM
Wow! Not having the coaching staff in place and evaluating potential portal transfers is not a good look 2 weeks before portal opens. Is State running it back without a WR coach and DL coach? Strange.

gtowndawg
12-16-2025, 02:22 PM
Wow! Not having the coaching staff in place and evaluating potential portal transfers is not a good look 2 weeks before portal opens. Is State running it back without a WR coach and DL coach? Strange.

What from this season made you think Lebby would handle these coaching transitions smoothly and on time?

BlackSailsDawg
12-16-2025, 02:28 PM
Wow! Not having the coaching staff in place and evaluating potential portal transfers is not a good look 2 weeks before portal opens. Is State running it back without a WR coach and DL coach? Strange.

I am sure they have the evaluation under control.

Our fans think they have to in the loop or we suck. Not true at all. How do you know that we are not looking at a coach on team in a bowl game or playoffs?

You dont. What you think is you deserve to be in the know and if you are its all nothing more than bull shit

TrapGame
12-16-2025, 03:34 PM
I am sure they have the evaluation under control.

Our fans think they have to in the loop or we suck. Not true at all. How do you know that we are not looking at a coach on team in a bowl game or playoffs?

You dont. What you think is you deserve to be in the know and if you are its all nothing more than bull shit

Exactly.

Somehow since it is not blasted all over socials and message boards we must have incompetent coaches that are just a bunch of tards sitting around making grill cheese sandwiches and farting.

Tater
12-16-2025, 03:39 PM
What from this season made you think Lebby would handle these coaching transitions smoothly and on time?

That he fired the one major leak and no one has any real information being floated because everyone else is tightlipped right now seeing Bump gone for it.

If it's 1/5 and we don't have a WR/DL coach announced then panicking is fair.

Todd4State
12-16-2025, 07:16 PM
That he fired the one major leak and no one has any real information being floated because everyone else is tightlipped right now seeing Bump gone for it.

If it's 1/5 and we don't have a WR/DL coach announced then panicking is fair.

Exactly. And if there is anything to panic over it's not who our WR coach is.

StarkVegasSteve
12-16-2025, 07:18 PM
Derek Nix Bama as the wide receiver coach. That basically confirms we will not have a higher until probably either a day before or a day after the ball game.

And hell, with this staff, we could have a hire tomorrow

KB21
12-16-2025, 07:54 PM
Something tells me that we were never really in it with Nix.

BigDawg81
12-16-2025, 09:32 PM
Derek Nix Bama as the wide receiver coach. That basically confirms we will not have a higher until probably either a day before or a day after the ball game.

And hell, with this staff, we could have a hire tomorrow
Apparently, there wasn?t supposed to be any staff changes until after the bowl game but somehow the Bumphis firing got leaked. Did Bumphis leak that too

Todd4State
12-16-2025, 09:34 PM
Apparently, there wasn?t supposed to be any staff changes until after the bowl game but somehow the Bumphis firing got leaked. Did Bumphis leak that too

That would be ironic.

If he was leaking info I could certainly see Lebby saying "we just can't have you around anymore."

BigDawg81
12-16-2025, 09:38 PM
That would be ironic.

If he was leaking info I could certainly see Lebby saying "we just can't have you around anymore."
Bumphis might already knew and did not want to wait until after the bowl game.

Todd4State
12-16-2025, 10:12 PM
Bumphis might already knew and did not want to wait until after the bowl game.

Maybe so. He obviously landed with UNLV pretty quickly.

CaptainObvious
12-16-2025, 10:22 PM
I am sure they have the evaluation under control.

Our fans think they have to in the loop or we suck. Not true at all. How do you know that we are not looking at a coach on team in a bowl game or playoffs?

You dont. What you think is you deserve to be in the know and if you are its all nothing more than bull shit

How sweet of you to be so protective of your beloved Head Coach while he sits on the couch watching Andy Griffith reruns while nearly every SEC team including the ones in the Playoffs are filling out their staff! But of course Lebby is Sooooo much smarter than all this guys. He is waiting on High School playoffs in Texas to finish so he can go get some of their coaches, right?

Gosh, some of our fans are so gullible to believe our coach is waiting on playoff teams to finish so he can poach their best coaches. Guys a freaking genius!

BankerDog
12-16-2025, 10:39 PM
How sweet of you to be so protective of your beloved Head Coach while he sits on the couch watching Andy Griffith reruns while nearly every SEC team including the ones in the Playoffs are filling out their staff! But of course Lebby is Sooooo much smarter than all this guys. He is waiting on High School playoffs in Texas to finish so he can go get some of their coaches, right?

Gosh, some of our fans are so gullible to believe our coach is waiting on playoff teams to finish so he can poach their best coaches. Guys a freaking genius!

Stroke some checks then?

Really Clark?
12-16-2025, 10:44 PM
Sometimes we, and other schools for that matter, wait to hire a guy because their contract is running out at their present school.

Todd4State
12-16-2025, 11:19 PM
Sometimes we, and other schools for that matter, wait to hire a guy because their contract is running out at their present school.

Is this a hint?

Tater
12-16-2025, 11:46 PM
How sweet of you to be so protective of your beloved Head Coach while he sits on the couch watching Andy Griffith reruns while nearly every SEC team including the ones in the Playoffs are filling out their staff! But of course Lebby is Sooooo much smarter than all this guys. He is waiting on High School playoffs in Texas to finish so he can go get some of their coaches, right?

Gosh, some of our fans are so gullible to believe our coach is waiting on playoff teams to finish so he can poach their best coaches. Guys a freaking genius!

I don't think he's a genius for it. I think he's sticking to his way of coaching and running the ship. We're giving him this leeway for this year.

I told you what date I'll have pitchforks ready.

I'd be much more inclined to believe we're constantly striking out if there was folks coming forward with credible information on who we're targeting. Most of the guys across ED, SPS, 247, etc. who usually have info have had next to none this go around. It is what it is. There's no reason beyond 1/5 to keep this information hidden even if we're hiring from one of the four teams still alive in the playoffs because at that point it would be a promotion for them from their current spot and fine to announce. So I'm waiting until then and if that Monday comes and we have massive staffing holes still then I'm probably going to be ahead of you with my pitchfork saying wtf is the plan and how are we attacking the portal.

BigDawg81
12-17-2025, 06:03 AM
How sweet of you to be so protective of your beloved Head Coach while he sits on the couch watching Andy Griffith reruns while nearly every SEC team including the ones in the Playoffs are filling out their staff! But of course Lebby is Sooooo much smarter than all this guys. He is waiting on High School playoffs in Texas to finish so he can go get some of their coaches, right?

Gosh, some of our fans are so gullible to believe our coach is waiting on playoff teams to finish so he can poach their best coaches. Guys a freaking genius!

Jesus Christ dude. Go take a walk or something. 2 weeks, nobody knew who Washington was until we found out that Lebby was after him. It only becomes a problem when others school wanted him. I guess we did not learn anything from the Arnett hiring. It is a good chance that you are not going to know anything until the hire is made which is after the bowl game.

BrunswickDawg
12-17-2025, 06:59 AM
I love these ultimatums from fans. "Satisfy my belief that you should be doing what I say NOW! Or I'll belittle you in the internet and quit giving money I don't give anyway!"

Mullen used to wait until the January coaches conference to hire coaches. And yes, I know the portal makes things different, but when it comes to the players today NIL talks more than position coaches do.

StarkVegasSteve
12-17-2025, 08:23 AM
I love these ultimatums from fans. "Satisfy my belief that you should be doing what I say NOW! Or I'll belittle you in the internet and quit giving money I don't give anyway!"

Mullen used to wait until the January coaches conference to hire coaches. And yes, I know the portal makes things different, but when it comes to the players today NIL talks more than position coaches do.

We are also complaining about a 17 WR coach. Lebby has done most of the recruiting at that position for the last 2 years anyways.

I think the main issue right now is that no info is leaking out. And the answer to that is pretty simple: Bumphis was let go in part because he was leaking info to boosters, friends, podcasters, etc. The other coaches are going to keep quiet for a while now that he has been let go. It also shows you how much info Bumphis was leaking.

Todd4State
12-17-2025, 09:04 AM
I love these ultimatums from fans. "Satisfy my belief that you should be doing what I say NOW! Or I'll belittle you in the internet and quit giving money I don't give anyway!"

Mullen used to wait until the January coaches conference to hire coaches. And yes, I know the portal makes things different, but when it comes to the players today NIL talks more than position coaches do.

It's insane. Like Zac Selmon is sitting there in his office like "oh no. Our fans are mad. I'll go tell Lebby to go hire a WR coach now before this gets out of hand."

Todd4State
12-17-2025, 09:06 AM
We are also complaining about a 17 WR coach. Lebby has done most of the recruiting at that position for the last 2 years anyways.

I think the main issue right now is that no info is leaking out. And the answer to that is pretty simple: Bumphis was let go in part because he was leaking info to boosters, friends, podcasters, etc. The other coaches are going to keep quiet for a while now that he has been let go. It also shows you how much info Bumphis was leaking.

And then we'll hire a WR coach and everything will be fine. Until Lebby runs a play the fans don't like in the bowl game.

StarkVegasSteve
12-17-2025, 10:44 AM
And then we'll hire a WR coach and everything will be fine. Until Lebby runs a play the fans don't like in the bowl game.

Some have already made up their minds about Lebby. They may turn out to be right. They may turn out to be wrong. The issue is that IF they turn out to be wrong, they'll construe it as we still did things wrong but got lucky.

I know this much, it doesn't matter who we hire at WR coach. That is not going to make or break our program. Chad Bumphis sucked as a WR coach. His development was terrible(see Rickey Johnson, Sanfrisco Magee, JJ Harrell, Markus Allen, Cam Thompson, etc). The best receivers we had were finished products recruited by Jeff Lebby. That's the facts.

I also know that if we don't significantly increase our buy in and NIL, we will have to hire a project again if Lebby fails. Dan isn't coming. He's not. He doesn't want to come back to Starkville. He's fond of his time, but he just doesn't want to come back. G6 coaches are not going to be beating down our door to come coach a team that has very little NIL buy in, fairweather fans, and school that prioritizes a non rev sport over rev sports.

Pancho
12-17-2025, 10:48 AM
preach it

BlackSailsDawg
12-17-2025, 11:10 AM
Exactly.

Somehow since it is not blasted all over socials and message boards we must have incompetent coaches that are just a bunch of tards sitting around making grill cheese sandwiches and farting.

That's right. We all know this staff is tight lipped. We all know a staff member was fired for leaking.

BlackSailsDawg
12-17-2025, 11:11 AM
How sweet of you to be so protective of your beloved Head Coach while he sits on the couch watching Andy Griffith reruns while nearly every SEC team including the ones in the Playoffs are filling out their staff! But of course Lebby is Sooooo much smarter than all this guys. He is waiting on High School playoffs in Texas to finish so he can go get some of their coaches, right?

Gosh, some of our fans are so gullible to believe our coach is waiting on playoff teams to finish so he can poach their best coaches. Guys a freaking genius!

Well, he's making millions and is successful at doing what he is doing. But you do you.

DEDawg
12-17-2025, 11:21 AM
How sweet of you to be so protective of your beloved Head Coach while he sits on the couch watching Andy Griffith reruns while nearly every SEC team including the ones in the Playoffs are filling out their staff! But of course Lebby is Sooooo much smarter than all this guys. He is waiting on High School playoffs in Texas to finish so he can go get some of their coaches, right?

Gosh, some of our fans are so gullible to believe our coach is waiting on playoff teams to finish so he can poach their best coaches. Guys a freaking genius!

are you ok lol

gtowndawg
12-17-2025, 12:09 PM
and school that prioritizes a non rev sport over rev sports.

We agree on that for sure

CaptainObvious
12-17-2025, 04:02 PM
Hold on. Where did I bitch about a WR hire? I?m talking about multiple hires. We need to replace several coaches, most importantly DL. I agree on WR coach. We can pick up the guy coaching at Choctaw County and be fine there.

How close are we to a full staff? As I asked, are we running it back with most of the 2025 guys because Lebby can?t get anybody to jump on with a possible Lame-duck?

BlackSailsDawg
12-17-2025, 04:10 PM
Hold on. Where did I bitch about a WR hire? I?m talking about multiple hires. We need to replace several coaches, most importantly DL. I agree on WR coach. We can pick up the guy coaching at Choctaw County and be fine there.

How close are we to a full staff? As I asked, are we running it back with most of the 2025 guys because Lebby can?t get anybody to jump on with a possible Lame-duck?

Captain, I think the obvious point here is Lebby nor MSU is obligated to tell you anything until they choose to and that does not make them incapable or incompetent. We all have zero idea if we have our guys and are waiting for contracts to expire or for them to fulfill their obligations.

What we DO know is that Lebby is NOT a lame duck or on the hot seat no matter how the few fans want it to be.

StarkVegasSteve
12-17-2025, 06:03 PM
Captain, I think the obvious point here is Lebby nor MSU is obligated to tell you anything until they choose to and that does not make them incapable or incompetent. We all have zero idea if we have our guys and are waiting for contracts to expire or for them to fulfill their obligations.

What we DO know is that Lebby is NOT a lame duck or on the hot seat no matter how the few fans want it to be.

I wouldn't go that far. There's definitely pressure on Lebby to win win probably 7 at least next year to feel totally safe.

CaptainObvious
12-17-2025, 07:29 PM
I wouldn't go that far. There's definitely pressure on Lebby to win win probably 7 at least next year to feel totally safe.

I would say at least 6 and not backing into a bowl because of APR. absolutely a winning record to keep his job next year! No more ?IF, THENS?!

And he might have to win a bowl game next year as well, especially if it is against another 6-6 opponent from a G5.

Pancho
12-17-2025, 08:24 PM
7 wins next year do look like a stretch at this point

Jarius
12-17-2025, 08:44 PM
And then we'll hire a WR coach and everything will be fine. Until Lebby runs a play the fans don't like in the bowl game.

I do not understand the obsession with fans and the WR coach hire being announced right now. I’m lukewarm on Lebby and I am not crazy about him keeping everything locked up like Lemonis did but I mean damn take a Xanax. It’s a WR coach and Lebby is responsible for most of that anyway. It’s going to happen. He’s not watching Netflix and smoking dope on his couch. A hire is coming and it will produce WR because that is what this offense does. I’m just hoping we get some dogs on defense and on the OL. That’s what I’m worried about and I’m willing to give him the portal period to show us he can do something there.

Jarius
12-17-2025, 08:49 PM
Hold on. Where did I bitch about a WR hire? I?m talking about multiple hires. We need to replace several coaches, most importantly DL. I agree on WR coach. We can pick up the guy coaching at Choctaw County and be fine there.

How close are we to a full staff? As I asked, are we running it back with most of the 2025 guys because Lebby can?t get anybody to jump on with a possible Lame-duck?

I doubt Arnett is just going to run it back with guys he doesn’t know and have not produced and I doubt Lebby will force him to do so. That’s not his style of coaching. He does not meddle with the defense. It may work or it may not but I guarantee you things are going on behind the scenes. I don’t like Corey Bell but the strong rumor is Kelley Jones is coming back and a lot of that is said to be because of Bell and if you get half of your position group locked down by a future first rounder for a year by bringing someone back then do it. I can coach Kelley Jones by slapping him on the ass and saying good job. I think we will have 2-3 new defensive hires when the portal opens.

BigDawg81
12-17-2025, 09:15 PM
I doubt Arnett is just going to run it back with guys he doesn’t know and have not produced and I doubt Lebby will force him to do so. That’s not his style of coaching. He does not meddle with the defense. It may work or it may not but I guarantee you things are going on behind the scenes. I don’t like Corey Bell but the strong rumor is Kelley Jones is coming back and a lot of that is said to be because of Bell and if you get half of your position group locked down by a future first rounder for a year by bringing someone back then do it. I can coach Kelley Jones by slapping him on the ass and saying good job. I think we will have 2-3 new defensive hires when the portal opens.
Keeping a bad coach for a player to stay is a terrible idea and never works. That’s actual why we are in the situation that we are currently in.

Jarius
12-17-2025, 09:30 PM
Keeping a bad coach for a player to stay is a terrible idea and never works. That’s actual why we are in the situation that we are currently in.

It is a bad reason to keep a coordinator. A position coach’s job is almost exclusively recruiting outside of a couple of spots and if you have half the field locked up it can work for a year. I don’t want him here long term but I would be ok with him staying for this year to keep Jones. Now Hutzler is a different situation all together. You can’t have a guy with that much responsibility on staff.

Coach34
12-17-2025, 09:44 PM
Keeping a bad coach for a player to stay is a terrible idea and never works.

Explain to me why he is a bad coach? What techniques are being coached that make him bad? People say this shit without knowing a damn thing about what they are talking about. What is he teaching from a hip rotation and set up in their stance thats bad? What hand drills does he not do in practice that he should do to make him a better coach?

confucius say
12-17-2025, 10:03 PM
I wouldn't go that far. There's definitely pressure on Lebby to win win probably 7 at least next year to feel totally safe.

Nah.

Jarius
12-17-2025, 10:16 PM
Explain to me why he is a bad coach? What techniques are being coached that make him bad? People say this shit without knowing a damn thing about what they are talking about. What is he teaching from a hip rotation and set up in their stance thats bad? What hand drills does he not do in practice that he should do to make him a better coach?

Yea I don’t think it takes a rocket surgeon to coach corners at any level. If he can recruit that is the biggest part of the game and if a 1st round corner is coming back for him then you keep him.

Coach34
12-17-2025, 10:26 PM
Yea I don’t think it takes a rocket surgeon to coach corners at any level. If he can recruit that is the biggest part of the game and if a 1st round corner is coming back for him then you keep him.

CB coach is the easiest job on the staff. Either you have dudes or you dont. Safeties coach is way more important because they have so many more responsibilities and reads. WR coach is probably the 2nd easiest job. U do hand and blocking drills. Thats about it. Those 2 positions are so much more about acquiring talent than coaching

Jarius
12-17-2025, 10:39 PM
CB coach is the easiest job on the staff. Either you have dudes or you dont. Safeties coach is way more important because they have so many more responsibilities and reads. WR coach is probably the 2nd easiest job. U do hand and blocking drills. Thats about it. Those 2 positions are so much more about acquiring talent than coaching

Yep, and it looks like we have Isaac coming back at safety (if you want to call him a safety) and probably Manning get another year. I think we will be ok there. We need to load up on the DL. Whitson is a big returner and we need 3 more big time guys up front. We supposedly have 30 million dollars to spend on this team. Can we get enough dudes with that money to make us competitive? Last year we could not give away money to difference makers. I hope we can this year. This staff will be in prove it mode.

Todd4State
12-18-2025, 04:26 AM
Some have already made up their minds about Lebby. They may turn out to be right. They may turn out to be wrong. The issue is that IF they turn out to be wrong, they'll construe it as we still did things wrong but got lucky.

I know this much, it doesn't matter who we hire at WR coach. That is not going to make or break our program. Chad Bumphis sucked as a WR coach. His development was terrible(see Rickey Johnson, Sanfrisco Magee, JJ Harrell, Markus Allen, Cam Thompson, etc). The best receivers we had were finished products recruited by Jeff Lebby. That's the facts.

I also know that if we don't significantly increase our buy in and NIL, we will have to hire a project again if Lebby fails. Dan isn't coming. He's not. He doesn't want to come back to Starkville. He's fond of his time, but he just doesn't want to come back. G6 coaches are not going to be beating down our door to come coach a team that has very little NIL buy in, fairweather fans, and school that prioritizes a non rev sport over rev sports.

The crazy thing to me about Dan and MSU fans is Dan was given the time to develop and establish his program. What did he do in year 1? Go 5-7. That sounds familiar doesn't it? We have too many fans holding 2024 and Toledo against Lebby. Every situation is different.

Bringing Dan back would be a mistake long term for MSU. Sure, he can win with KT. I think Lebby can too by the way. As we have talked about we need to build our NIL and resources. We don't need a nostalgia grab with a guy who isn't the best recruiter, will have a harder schedule than he had his first go around, and will leave as soon as he has any kind of success or will try to.

So, that being said that's why I fully expect MSU to bring him back.

Todd4State
12-18-2025, 04:32 AM
I do not understand the obsession with fans and the WR coach hire being announced right now. I’m lukewarm on Lebby and I am not crazy about him keeping everything locked up like Lemonis did but I mean damn take a Xanax. It’s a WR coach and Lebby is responsible for most of that anyway. It’s going to happen. He’s not watching Netflix and smoking dope on his couch. A hire is coming and it will produce WR because that is what this offense does. I’m just hoping we get some dogs on defense and on the OL. That’s what I’m worried about and I’m willing to give him the portal period to show us he can do something there.

Bingo!


I doubt Arnett is just going to run it back with guys he doesn’t know and have not produced and I doubt Lebby will force him to do so. That’s not his style of coaching. He does not meddle with the defense. It may work or it may not but I guarantee you things are going on behind the scenes. I don’t like Corey Bell but the strong rumor is Kelley Jones is coming back and a lot of that is said to be because of Bell and if you get half of your position group locked down by a future first rounder for a year by bringing someone back then do it. I can coach Kelley Jones by slapping him on the ass and saying good job. I think we will have 2-3 new defensive hires when the portal opens.

If you look at Arnett historically, we really doesn't have very many guys that are "his guys." He inherited Leach's defensive staff when we first hired him. And when he was at Utah, their defensive staff was one of Dan's friends- Paul Guenther and mostly guys that coached under Odom that Dan retained. Now that he is back you could say that Matt Brock is one of his guys but my point is outside of David Turner who we know is likely retiring that there may not be very many changes. Of course, I could see Barnes leaving but if we're replacing him with Brett Dewhurst I would honestly be kind of disappointed. But I would not be surprised at all if Bell is coming back. And honestly Barnes for that matter too.

Wink&aPrayer
12-18-2025, 03:00 PM
CB coach is the easiest job on the staff. Either you have dudes or you dont. Safeties coach is way more important because they have so many more responsibilities and reads. WR coach is probably the 2nd easiest job. U do hand and blocking drills. Thats about it. Those 2 positions are so much more about acquiring talent than coaching
Agree

KB21
12-18-2025, 03:31 PM
Dang! Muschamp is going to Texas as defensive coordinator. Sark has fired Pete Kwiatkowski and Duane Akina.

BrunswickDawg
12-18-2025, 03:46 PM
Dang! Muschamp is going to Texas as defensive coordinator. Sark has fired Pete Kwiatkowski and Duane Akina.

Man... that's gonna set Hadad off LOL

TrapGame
12-18-2025, 04:09 PM
Dang! Muschamp is going to Texas as defensive coordinator. Sark has fired Pete Kwiatkowski and Duane Akina.

Is Muschamp an upgrade over Pete K? I don?t think so.

Coach34
12-18-2025, 04:16 PM
Is Muschamp an upgrade over Pete K? I don?t think so.

15 years ago? Absolutely

Today? Not sure.

TrapGame
12-18-2025, 04:44 PM
15 years ago? Absolutely

Today? Not sure.

Man, I just do not see Muschamp fielding a better defense than what they already had. Manning being hot and cold was worse than the defense.

Coursesuper
12-18-2025, 05:02 PM
15 years ago? Absolutely

Today? Not sure.

15 years ago yeah, but a lot has changed since then. Nobody sits still you’re either evolving or dead in the game. He will have talent to work with for sure, maybe time with Kirby has rubbed off like you said.

Jarius
12-18-2025, 07:31 PM
They had a good defense this year and fired the DC. Makes sense **

Coach34
12-18-2025, 09:05 PM
15 years ago yeah, but a lot has changed since then. Nobody sits still you’re either evolving or dead in the game. He will have talent to work with for sure, maybe time with Kirby has rubbed off like you said.

Boom's not old yet. Maybe his time with Kirby has him recharged and ready. Changed his scheme and philosophy a little. We shall see. I got recharged this year in a new job and had alot of success. Of course- better players helps. I'm curious to see how it turns out

Dawgology
12-19-2025, 03:03 PM
How sweet of you to be so protective of your beloved Head Coach while he sits on the couch watching Andy Griffith reruns while nearly every SEC team including the ones in the Playoffs are filling out their staff! But of course Lebby is Sooooo much smarter than all this guys. He is waiting on High School playoffs in Texas to finish so he can go get some of their coaches, right?

Gosh, some of our fans are so gullible to believe our coach is waiting on playoff teams to finish so he can poach their best coaches. Guys a freaking genius!

How do you know he is watching Andy Griffith?

Pancho
12-19-2025, 04:00 PM
captain obvious watches andy griffith. lebby do not

BigDawg81
12-21-2025, 04:47 PM
Changes are going to be named after the bowl game

Pancho
12-21-2025, 05:03 PM
Most have known this all along. some prefer to stay ruffled due to lack of insider info

BigDawg81
12-21-2025, 07:14 PM
Haven’t heard an exact names but I feel like it is names that have been discussed here. Since the portal opens on the same day as the bowl game, it will start leaking that day and into the 3rd

Todd4State
12-21-2025, 07:30 PM
Justin Stepp is rumored to be a name to watch for the WR coach and Ty Warren for the DL coach job.

BigDawg81
12-21-2025, 08:14 PM
Justin Stepp is rumored to be a name to watch for the WR coach and Ty Warren for the DL coach job.

Stepp is interesting

DEDawg
12-21-2025, 08:36 PM
Like the Patriots Ty Warren? Used to love watching him play

BigDawg81
12-21-2025, 08:52 PM
Like the Patriots Ty Warren? Used to love watching him play
He’s the DL coach at Rice

KOdawg1
12-21-2025, 10:56 PM
Stepp would be a great hire.

No thanks on Warren unless it's an analyst or off the field position. He simply hasn't done enough.

Todd4State
12-21-2025, 11:19 PM
Stepp would be a great hire.

No thanks on Warren unless it's an analyst or off the field position. He simply hasn't done enough.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ty_Warren

He served an apprenticeship with the Saints this season. That isn't something that they just let anyone do. He could be very good as a DL coach.

Thick
12-22-2025, 09:59 AM
What happened to McPhee?

BigDawg81
12-22-2025, 02:26 PM
Mississippi State has hired WR assistant coach Desmond Lindsay. He was a WR coach at UTEP, Southern Miss and Memphis. I do not understand how you hire an assistant WR coach when you do not have a WR coach but here we are.

Todd4State
12-22-2025, 02:34 PM
Mississippi State has hired WR assistant coach Desmond Lindsay. He was a WR coach at UTEP, Southern Miss and Memphis. I do not understand how you hire an assistant WR coach when you do not have a WR coach but here we are.

We probably have the coach hired but the coach probably wants to wait until after the bowls probably.

BigDawg81
12-22-2025, 02:37 PM
We probably have the coach hired but the coach probably wants to wait until after the bowls probably.
Also seems like that Lindsay was brought in to recruit

Todd4State
12-22-2025, 04:07 PM
Also seems like that Lindsay was brought in to recruit

Yeah. We're obviously changing our staff for the better. We're adding recruiters like Lindsey and Kevie Thompson and try to add guys that are good at development and X's and O's. Similar model to what Coach O suggested years ago.

KB21
12-22-2025, 04:25 PM
Yeah. We're obviously changing our staff for the better. We're adding recruiters like Lindsey and Kevie Thompson and try to add guys that are good at development and X's and O's. Similar model to what Coach O suggested years ago.

I think we might see a lot of assistant position coaches going forward. There isn't a limit on the number of on field coaches you can have. They just limit how many can recruit. I wouldn't be surprised if McPhee ends up getting hired as an assistant DL coach.

BigDawg81
12-22-2025, 07:09 PM
Apparently, Stepp has no legs to it

Thick
12-22-2025, 07:56 PM
Apparently, Stepp has no legs to it

You got a link or are you just guessing? It?s obvious that no one knows s h i t when it comes to our football program. This board seems to be much more beneficial when it comes to baseball! Here?s the real sad part, our past football players know as much about what?s going on as this board. It?s a f u c k i n g guessing game, and it?s obvious that certain people get fed ?info?, but maybe it tells the athletic department who to not share info with at this time. Right now ED is batting .000! I?m not criticizing anyone who provides the info directly, but it?s obvious that some of you are being fed bad info.

KOdawg1
12-22-2025, 07:57 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ty_Warren

He served an apprenticeship with the Saints this season. That isn't something that they just let anyone do. He could be very good as a DL coach.

He could be.

I prefer someone we know will be.

KOdawg1
12-22-2025, 07:58 PM
A name to watch
https://seminoles.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/tim-harris-jr/947

BigDawg81
12-22-2025, 08:33 PM
You got a link or are you just guessing? It?s obvious that no one knows s h i t when it comes to our football program. This board seems to be much more beneficial when it comes to baseball! Here?s the real sad part, our past football players know as much about what?s going on as this board. It?s a f u c k i n g guessing game, and it?s obvious that certain people get fed ?info?, but maybe it tells the athletic department who to not share info with at this time. Right now ED is batting .000! I?m not criticizing anyone who provides the info directly, but it?s obvious that some of you are being fed bad info. Sir, this is a message board not a Wendy?s

Thick
12-22-2025, 09:05 PM
Sir, this is a message board not a Wendy?s

Wendy?s my ass?.try Dairy Queen! UTEP assistant coaches stepping up to SEC jobs, bc we can?t afford nor gain the interest from other P4 schools. Delusional at it?s finest!

CaptainObvious
12-22-2025, 09:46 PM
Come on now! All the ones in the know here have told us multiple times that Mississippi State is the only Program out of 134 FBS schools that keeps their new hires under wraps. In fact, I would not be surprised if the very best Position Coaches on each of the final 8 playoff teams don?t sign to coach with Lebby as soon as the Portal Closes!