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TrapGame
11-03-2025, 05:26 PM
(Everybody feel free to throw in anything you guys see on X, ESPN or YouTube.)
Rumor down on the Plains is DJ Durkin is working the AU administration and big boosters HARD to be Freeze's replacement.
HancockCountyDog
11-03-2025, 05:39 PM
(Everybody feel free to throw in anything you guys see on X, ESPN or YouTube.)
Rumor down on the Plains is DJ Durkin is working the AU administration and big boosters HARD to be Freeze's replacement.
Yeah - I don't know who else they could hire. I'm sure they will try and hire some up and coming OC, and I guess they could do worse than Durkin, but man they have been in the wilderness since they fired Gus.
StarkVegasSteve
11-03-2025, 05:41 PM
I was told yesterday Brent Key has a lot of support on the Plains. I also heard Jon Sumrall has a lot of support there. As for the other jobs:
Arkansas has NO CLUE what they are doing. Legit none. I think they thought Rhett Lashlee was theirs but that ship seems to have sailed. Norvell still has some goodwill there so he could get a look depending on what happens at FSU. I also have heard Golesh's name mentioned there as well as Gus(although I've heard he's done being an HC). Their dream candidate is Drinkwitz but I don't think he'd take it right now unless he was given some really strong NIL assurances. There's also some talk PJ Fleck has some interest in that job.
LSU lost out on Kiffin last week. Jeff Landry screwed them. I've heard Josh Heupel is the dark horse there. I've heard that he's probably candidate 2 behind Kiffin, who's going to tell them no unless Jeff Landry takes a bunch of steps back. I think Drinkwitz would get a strong look here as well if they got past Heupel. Sumrall could get a look here as well. There's a group of NOLA LSU boosters that are pushing him hard. There's also a contingent pushing for Joe Brady, but I don't think they can wait til February to make a hire.
Florida is all in on Kiffin. I'm not completely sure they have a Plan B. I don't think that's any indication of things. I just think they have given Stricklin his marching orders that Kiffin is going to have to turn them down multiple times before they move on. Drinkwitz is probably candidate 2 here. If it gets past that.....maybe Jedd Fisch??
Franklin and Va Tech are wrapping up negotiations and I think they announce him in the next few weeks pending everything gets approved.
TrapGame
11-03-2025, 05:47 PM
Assistant coach firing: Mike Shula out as OC at south Carolina. That was a stupid hire to begin with.
Yeah, SEC Shorts taking a shot at Landry tirade causing Kiffin's jet to do a U turn out of Baton Rouge was no joke. LSU is proving to be a bigger shit show than Florida.
I've seen some low key rumors that Willie Fritz is working behind the scenes on a couple of openings. He is interested in Arkansas, so the rumor goes.
basedog
11-03-2025, 06:12 PM
I was told yesterday Brent Key has a lot of support on the Plains. I also heard Jon Sumrall has a lot of support there. As for the other jobs:
Arkansas has NO CLUE what they are doing. Legit none. I think they thought Rhett Lashlee was theirs but that ship seems to have sailed. Norvell still has some goodwill there so he could get a look depending on what happens at FSU. I also have heard Golesh's name mentioned there as well as Gus(although I've heard he's done being an HC). Their dream candidate is Drinkwitz but I don't think he'd take it right now unless he was given some really strong NIL assurances. There's also some talk PJ Fleck has some interest in that job.
LSU lost out on Kiffin last week. Jeff Landry screwed them. I've heard Josh Heupel is the dark horse there. I've heard that he's probably candidate 2 behind Kiffin, who's going to tell them no unless Jeff Landry takes a bunch of steps back. I think Drinkwitz would get a strong look here as well if they got past Heupel. Sumrall could get a look here as well. There's a group of NOLA LSU boosters that are pushing him hard. There's also a contingent pushing for Joe Brady, but I don't think they can wait til February to make a hire.
Florida is all in on Kiffin. I'm not completely sure they have a Plan B. I don't think that's any indication of things. I just think they have given Stricklin his marching orders that Kiffin is going to have to turn them down multiple times before they move on. Drinkwitz is probably candidate 2 here. If it gets past that.....maybe Jedd Fisch??
Franklin and Va Tech are wrapping up negotiations and I think they announce him in the next few weeks pending everything gets approved.
I can tell you for a fact Jeff Landry is not involved in the LSU search for their next HC.
StarkVegasSteve
11-03-2025, 06:21 PM
I can tell you for a fact Jeff Landry is not involved in the LSU search for their next HC.
He may not be but he stuck his nose where it did not belong and pissed off Jimmy Sexton with his comments.
Coursesuper
11-03-2025, 07:40 PM
He may not be but he stuck his nose where it did not belong and pissed off Jimmy Sexton with his comments.
Yep, calling out Jimmy Sexton was absolutely ridiculously stupid.
BrunswickDawg
11-03-2025, 08:14 PM
I'd be shocked if Brent Key jumps from GT. He is a Tech Man to the core and he wants to win big there. And while Tech may not be all in on NIL, a winning GT can tap into corporate Atlanta in ways most others can't. Rev Share is going to help Tech too.
1eyedog
11-03-2025, 08:24 PM
So If LK stays in the Ditch, what is the Dog plan? As someone else said Coach Lebby should have alot of transfers to choose from.......the DOGS have to win the EB this year......it is imperative.
HoopsDawg
11-03-2025, 08:33 PM
Thank goodness we have Lebby, these potential coaches are not needle movers.
Tater
11-03-2025, 08:43 PM
So If LK stays in the Ditch, what is the Dog plan? As someone else said Coach Lebby should have alot of transfers to choose from.......the DOGS have to win the EB this year......it is imperative.
Pretty simple plan.
Beat they ass
CadaverDawg
11-03-2025, 09:23 PM
My guesses....
Saban to LSU. 3 years, 60 mil. Then will become AD after 3 years.
Kiffin staying unless Florida gives him $18 mil
Arkansas will make a dud hire bc that's what Arkansas does.
And I'm sorry, but to me Drinkwitz fits LSU about like Brian Kelly. Matter of fact, Drinkwitz doesn't fit anywhere. Maybe Vandy. Dude is a quirky dork. But he is a solid coach. Can't imagine LSU fans being happy with him as the guy.
Coach34
11-03-2025, 09:25 PM
Drinkwitz fits just fine in Missouri
Dawgology
11-03-2025, 09:29 PM
My guesses....
Saban to LSU. 3 years, 60 mil. Then will become AD after 3 years.
Kiffin staying unless Florida gives him $18 mil
Arkansas will make a dud hire bc that's what Arkansas does.
And I'm sorry, but to me Drinkwitz fits LSU about like Brian Kelly. Matter of fact, Drinkwitz doesn't fit anywhere. Maybe Vandy. Dude is a quirky dork. But he is a solid coach. Can't imagine LSU fans being happy with him as the guy.
Florida will give Kiffin $20 mil.
EdwardDrayton
11-03-2025, 09:45 PM
Florida will get Kiffin. His ego will override any family pleadings this time. He banked goodwill with the family by not leaving last time. He will cash in that familial goodwill to be the coach in Gainesville.
CaptainObvious
11-03-2025, 10:40 PM
Strangely enough, I think Florida has actually passed LSU as the best job available. LSU firing both coach and AD screwed the pooch. I?m down here in Tiger Land this week and they are already talking about Baseball. Damn they gave up quick!
parabrave
11-03-2025, 10:44 PM
Florida will get Kiffin. His ego will override any family pleadings this time. He banked goodwill with the family by not leaving last time. He will cash in that familial goodwill to be the coach in Gainesville.
Kids ae probably old enough now to understand the more money daddy gets the more I get.
CaptainObvious
11-03-2025, 10:51 PM
Remember when Jocoby Brissett was the QB for NC State when State played them in the Charlotte Bowl and DAK and the Dawgs destroyed them? And now Brissett is destroying the Cowboys! How times have changed!
parabrave
11-03-2025, 11:03 PM
Remember when Jocoby Brissett was the QB for NC State when State played them in the Charlotte Bowl and DAK and the Dawgs destroyed them? And now Brissett is destroying the Cowboys! How times have changed!
Well every QB the boys have faced have killed the cowboys. Their D is Pete Sirmon bad
Dawgology
11-03-2025, 11:12 PM
Well every QB the boys have faced have killed the cowboys. Their D is Pete Sirmon bad
And the wr’s have fumbilitis tonight
EdwardDrayton
11-03-2025, 11:39 PM
Well every QB the boys have faced have killed the cowboys. Their D is Pete Sirmon bad
And the wr’s have fumbilitis tonight
Worst NFL defense in recent memory. And FOUR FUMBLES by the receivers. Two by Pickens not lost and then one each lost by Ferguson and Williams. The OL was horrendous. And to further exacerbate it how about the dumbass Pickens taunting penalty. Dak is mired in a $hitshow created by Clown Jerry. I hate it.
EdwardDrayton
11-03-2025, 11:42 PM
Remember when Jocoby Brissett was the QB for NC State when State played them in the Charlotte Bowl and DAK and the Dawgs destroyed them? And now Brissett is destroying the Cowboys! How times have changed!
My son and i met Jacoby at the Senior Bowl in Mobile. Nice kid. Think he's been with five or six different teams. Nice to see him finally having his day in the sun.
EdwardDrayton
11-03-2025, 11:43 PM
Kids ae probably old enough now to understand the more money daddy gets the more I get.
Gotta think so, yes?!!?
I was told yesterday Brent Key has a lot of support on the Plains. I also heard Jon Sumrall has a lot of support there. As for the other jobs:
Arkansas has NO CLUE what they are doing. Legit none. I think they thought Rhett Lashlee was theirs but that ship seems to have sailed. Norvell still has some goodwill there so he could get a look depending on what happens at FSU. I also have heard Golesh's name mentioned there as well as Gus(although I've heard he's done being an HC). Their dream candidate is Drinkwitz but I don't think he'd take it right now unless he was given some really strong NIL assurances. There's also some talk PJ Fleck has some interest in that job.
LSU lost out on Kiffin last week. Jeff Landry screwed them. I've heard Josh Heupel is the dark horse there. I've heard that he's probably candidate 2 behind Kiffin, who's going to tell them no unless Jeff Landry takes a bunch of steps back. I think Drinkwitz would get a strong look here as well if they got past Heupel. Sumrall could get a look here as well. There's a group of NOLA LSU boosters that are pushing him hard. There's also a contingent pushing for Joe Brady, but I don't think they can wait til February to make a hire.
Florida is all in on Kiffin. I'm not completely sure they have a Plan B. I don't think that's any indication of things. I just think they have given Stricklin his marching orders that Kiffin is going to have to turn them down multiple times before they move on. Drinkwitz is probably candidate 2 here. If it gets past that.....maybe Jedd Fisch??
Franklin and Va Tech are wrapping up negotiations and I think they announce him in the next few weeks pending everything gets approved.
Part of me thinks Sexton is using VT as leverage for Franklin. Apparently he?s asking for something obscene like $30 million in NIL guarantees.
Santiago
11-04-2025, 07:14 AM
Part of me thinks Sexton is using VT as leverage for Franklin. Apparently he?s asking for something obscene like $30 million in NIL guarantees.
if the 30 million is over a 2 year period, then sounds right for a coach wanting to quickly update his roster. But if 1 year, that is crazy.
There was a post on our 247 site, copying over from the Arkansas board, where their moderator/reporter talked about a booster meeting Saturday and that they need more guaranteed money for lots of things, not including NIL.
redstickdawg
11-04-2025, 07:32 AM
Strangely enough, I think Florida has actually passed LSU as the best job available. LSU firing both coach and AD screwed the pooch. I?m down here in Tiger Land this week and they are already talking about Baseball. Damn they gave up quick!
I think that most realize that Landry saying stupid things (as too often the case) really screwed the situation up totally fubared. LSU is without a President, AD and FB coach and Landry has really made things much, much worse with his little man syndrome. Either LSU pays through the nose or they get a nobody that is a current coordinator, not many good coaches want to face the issues that are in place here.
Leroy Jenkins
11-04-2025, 08:36 AM
Remember when Deion was mentioned for every vacancy? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Santiago
11-04-2025, 08:46 AM
I think that most realize that Landry saying stupid things (as too often the case) really screwed the situation up totally fubared. LSU is without a President, AD and FB coach and Landry has really made things much, much worse with his little man syndrome. Either LSU pays through the nose or they get a nobody that is a current coordinator, not many good coaches want to face the issues that are in place here.
Wonder if this could actually play in their favor if Ole miss is in the playoffs. LSU can disguise the process that they are hiring the president and AD and that keeps fans at bay for a month. It would be just like those cajuns to screw it up and it fall into perfect timing.
Florida though - if they are not announcing someone in mid december it becomes obvious.
TrapGame
11-04-2025, 09:11 AM
Wonder if this could actually play in their favor if Ole miss is in the playoffs. LSU can disguise the process that they are hiring the president and AD and that keeps fans at bay for a month. It would be just like those cajuns to screw it up and it fall into perfect timing.
Florida though - if they are not announcing someone in mid december it becomes obvious.
I believe Lane will be in Florida next year. Either as Florida's head coach or the head coach of the Dolphins.
Lane "loves Oxford and OM" but still hasn't signed that pot of gold extension on his desk yet.
Coach34
11-04-2025, 09:37 AM
if the 30 million is over a 2 year period, then sounds right for a coach wanting to quickly update his roster. But if 1 year, that is crazy.
Texas Tech did it- and look where they are this year
StarkVegasSteve
11-04-2025, 09:47 AM
I believe Lane will be in Florida next year. Either as Florida's head coach or the head coach of the Dolphins.
Lane "loves Oxford and OM" but still hasn't signed that pot of gold extension on his desk yet.
Jimmy will not let him do that. That is cheating Jimmy out of his cut of that raise, which could be 2-3 additional millions more per year. I mean why would Jimmy advise Lane to sign an extension on November 4th for 12 when he might could sign one on January 4th for 14. I mean if money does not matter then it will not matter if he waits 60 more days to sign the extension. You can look at it both ways.
If you had to make me bet today, Lane is in Oxford next year. Especially if he makes the playoffs this year. Now if Florida beats him in two weeks and we beat him on Black Friday, my opinion changes. I just do not see them losing 2 of the last 3.
klong-dog
11-04-2025, 09:51 AM
I can kinda see Franklin being an auburn fit.
StarkVegasSteve
11-04-2025, 10:04 AM
I can kinda see Franklin being an auburn fit.
I definitely think his agent, I believe Jimmy, will force Va Tech's hand on some things they are asking for due to Auburn opening up. I don't think Franklin fits there at all though. He doesn't have the temperament to deal with that fan base. He's a little like Hugh in the fact that he needs to be liked. You either need a coach like Malzahn, who's just kind of oblivious to the noise(Drinkwitz comes to mind), or you need a coach like who just wins at an insanely high clip so it keeps the natives at bay. Kenny Dillingham would be scary there honestly. But I don't think he looks back on his time there very fondly.
basedog
11-04-2025, 10:05 AM
I think that most realize that Landry saying stupid things (as too often the case) really screwed the situation up totally fubared. LSU is without a President, AD and FB coach and Landry has really made things much, much worse with his little man syndrome. Either LSU pays through the nose or they get a nobody that is a current coordinator, not many good coaches want to face the issues that are in place here.
Lsu is not going to pay a huge contract with a huge buyout contract. With the last two Coaches and buyouts have cost them. Times have changed for them. I have a friend who is close to this situation.
Maverick91
11-04-2025, 10:12 AM
Part of me thinks Sexton is using VT as leverage for Franklin. Apparently he?s asking for something obscene like $30 million in NIL guarantees.
If that's true. It's honestly the way coaches have to go now. They have to look at security of the program instead of massive bank rolling their pockets.
Santiago
11-04-2025, 10:19 AM
Texas Tech did it- and look where they are this year
agree. I meant more of VaTech or Arkansas doing that for one year 30 million. Does not sound like them.
Arkansas boosters do not seem too engaged into paying football NIL either, but they will pay a fortune for basketball .
from 247 arkansas writer, they need to come up with another 20-30 million , not NIL, to get things up to date for football. Coaching salaries, off field personnel etc.
So if a 30 million NIL on one year in addition to 20-30 for other costs, I don't see Arkansas making that commitment this year unless it is the coach the boosters love. Franklin is not in the position to get that energy.
Coach34
11-04-2025, 10:20 AM
Sexton makes 4% for each coach he represents- which is at least 2/3 of college football plus other sports. So its 40K per million
Santiago
11-04-2025, 10:20 AM
I think that most realize that Landry saying stupid things (as too often the case) really screwed the situation up totally fubared. LSU is without a President, AD and FB coach and Landry has really made things much, much worse with his little man syndrome. Either LSU pays through the nose or they get a nobody that is a current coordinator, not many good coaches want to face the issues that are in place here.
I can see the TN coach moving there or at least leveraging that. Tn fans getting big for their britches again thinking it is 1999.
Santiago
11-04-2025, 10:21 AM
Sexton makes 4% for each coach he represents- which is at least 2/3 of college football plus other sports. So its 40K per million
one day a movie about all this or documentary would be interesting
Coursesuper
11-04-2025, 10:27 AM
I definitely think his agent, I believe Jimmy, will force Va Tech's hand on some things they are asking for due to Auburn opening up. I don't think Franklin fits there at all though. He doesn't have the temperament to deal with that fan base. He's a little like Hugh in the fact that he needs to be liked. You either need a coach like Malzahn, who's just kind of oblivious to the noise(Drinkwitz comes to mind), or you need a coach like who just wins at an insanely high clip so it keeps the natives at bay. Kenny Dillingham would be scary there honestly. But I don't think he looks back on his time there very fondly.
Good points here. Franklin at AU is an oil and water situation. I for one don?t think that they will hire any of their top candidates. Guys know it?s a madhouse there. Going to be fun to watch though. These Cohen hostage videos are a real treat.
StarkVegasSteve
11-04-2025, 10:29 AM
I can see the TN coach moving there or at least leveraging that. Tn fans getting big for their britches again thinking it is 1999.
The rumor out of Red Stick for about the last week is that Josh Heupel may be ready to make the move. I definitely think he AT WORST listens to LSU.
Santiago
11-04-2025, 10:45 AM
Good points here. Franklin at AU is an oil and water situation. I for one don?t think that they will hire any of their top candidates. Guys know it?s a madhouse there. Going to be fun to watch though. These Cohen hostage videos are a real treat.
Man that is funny!! It really does look like hostage videos. Smartest man in the room trying so hard to convince the world that "one man" can save Auburn. That man.....John Cohen.
parabrave
11-04-2025, 12:12 PM
one day a movie about all this or documentary would be interesting
Show me the Money/ I blame Tom Cruise and Cuba Gooding JR.
TrapGame
11-04-2025, 12:37 PM
The rumor out of Red Stick for about the last week is that Josh Heupel may be ready to make the move. I definitely think he AT WORST listens to LSU.
I watched a Vols podcast yesterday and the word is Heupel has lost a lot of support b/c he isn't making the playoffs this year. It's crazy, one down year and everyone wants your head.
If we were 8-1 I'm sure Lebby's name would be all over the Tennessee boards.
ScooterDog
11-04-2025, 12:45 PM
With all the HC changes, that might allow us to upgrade our assistant staff. There should be some available I would think.
Brobi-wan
11-04-2025, 12:49 PM
With all the HC changes, that might allow us to upgrade our assistant staff. There should be some available I would think.
I agree. I think we are in a killer position to upgrade some positions and staff. Couldn’t have drawn this up better.
Santiago
11-04-2025, 01:35 PM
I watched a Vols podcast yesterday and the word is Heupel has lost a lot of support b/c he isn't making the playoffs this year. It's crazy, one down year and everyone wants your head.
If we were 8-1 I'm sure Lebby's name would be all over the Tennessee boards.
add to that , they lost a QB before season, and he quickly picked up another one and had that QB running the system. Immaleavin screwed him up the past couple seasons, but that maybe goes back to evaluations.
TrapGame
11-04-2025, 02:07 PM
With all the HC changes, that might allow us to upgrade our assistant staff. There should be some available I would think.
Do we replace Hutzler with DJ Durkin, if he becomes available at the end of the season?
Hutz has turned out to be a decent DC and a good recruiter.
chef dixon
11-04-2025, 02:15 PM
I really think we are going to start seeing very few coaching moves within the conference. These are NFL jobs now. The grass is less clearly green between jobs and immediate expectations are going to turn off coaches from making jumps. Once you're in the door with an SEC job, if you're a coach worth a shit, you can showcase that with the way the portal is.
TrapGame
11-04-2025, 02:22 PM
I really think we are going to start seeing very few coaching moves within the conference. These are NFL jobs now. The grass is less clearly green between jobs and immediate expectations are going to turn off coaches from making jumps. Once you're in the door with an SEC job, if you're a coach worth a shit, you can showcase that with the way the portal is.
People can bitch all they want but NIL and the Portal have leveled the playing field and created parity. You don't have to go coach at a certain school to have a shot at a NC.
If we can deliver $25 million in NIL for Lebby and the coaches they can put together a team from what's about to be in the Portal that could be a playoff contender. No joke.
Coach34
11-04-2025, 02:36 PM
Do we replace Hutzler with DJ Durkin, if he becomes available at the end of the season?
Hutz has turned out to be a decent DC and a good recruiter.
Durkin's trying hard to get the Auburn job himself. If he doesnt- he will have multiple suiters for his services
TrapGame
11-04-2025, 02:45 PM
Durkin's trying hard to get the Auburn job himself. If he doesnt- he will have multiple suiters for his services
That's what I'm thinking too. This could be a good year for Durkin to get another HC gig.
Personally, I like Hutz and think we should keep him but go hard after guys he wants in his system.
TrapGame
11-04-2025, 03:38 PM
There's some chatter that Auburn is trying to get into the James Franklin sweepstakes.
Pancho
11-04-2025, 03:47 PM
he won't mesh well there?
TrapGame
11-04-2025, 04:04 PM
Now Shaq is saying he has some very good sources telling him Saban and LSU are talking. Doesn't mean he is coming back but they are in the talking stages.
Santiago
11-04-2025, 04:20 PM
I wonder how much is Alabama paying Saban these days.
Extendedcab
11-04-2025, 05:46 PM
I wonder how much is Alabama paying Saban these days.
To not coach anywhere else?
Todd4State
11-04-2025, 06:25 PM
People can bitch all they want but NIL and the Portal have leveled the playing field and created parity. You don't have to go coach at a certain school to have a shot at a NC.
If we can deliver $25 million in NIL for Lebby and the coaches they can put together a team from what's about to be in the Portal that could be a playoff contender. No joke.
It's so nice to see a MSU fan that sees the big picture.
BeardoMSU
11-04-2025, 06:58 PM
People can bitch all they want but NIL and the Portal have leveled the playing field and created parity. You don't have to go coach at a certain school to have a shot at a NC.
If we can deliver $25 million in NIL for Lebby and the coaches they can put together a team from what's about to be in the Portal that could be a playoff contender. No joke.
Very true.
Unfortunately, if our board can even remotely be considered a representative sample of the fanbase, we've got far too many stick in the mud folks that revert to the "a free education should be enough", while completely refusing to acknowledge the current state of CFB.
That being said, our admin needs to branch out and get as much commercial/business $$$ into NIL as possible. Cohen didn't do this. Selman has made strides in catching up, but there's still more to do obv.
The future CAN be bright (if we want it to!).
Santiago
11-04-2025, 07:17 PM
Very true.
Unfortunately, if our board can even remotely be considered a representative sample of the fanbase, we've got far too many stick in the mud folks that revert to the "a free education should be enough", while completely refusing to acknowledge the current state of CFB.
That being said, our admin needs to branch out and get as much commercial/business $$$ into NIL as possible. Cohen didn't do this. Selman has made strides in catching up, but there's still more to do obv.
The future CAN be bright (if we want it to!).
I don't see from a financial model how this can sustain. I can see it short term, but to ask people to throw in millions without some ROI is unreasonable long term. Also for self made millionaires, this model does not really entice at all.
A commercial business might benefit, unless they have a business beyond the region and into the footprint of other schools.
Replying to this post because it reminded me to ask this. But for anyone, what is this projected model beyond 5 years, or what benefits will boosters get for the contributions.
Coursesuper
11-04-2025, 07:41 PM
There's some chatter that Auburn is trying to get into the James Franklin sweepstakes.
Auburn is trying to get in the anyone that will come to work in the asylum sweepstakes.
confucius say
11-04-2025, 07:44 PM
Yep, calling out Jimmy Sexton was absolutely ridiculously stupid.
I thought he called out Brian Kelly agent? That isn't sexton.
And he was right about sexton having a conflict. You can't represent two candidates who want the same job without having a conflict.
Coursesuper
11-04-2025, 08:09 PM
I thought he called out Brian Kelly agent? That isn't sexton.
And he was right about sexton having a conflict. You can't represent two candidates who want the same job without having a conflict.
I took that to be the agent representing possible candidates, and I don?t think the coaches or the agent care if anyone thinks there is a conflict of interests. But by calling him out that idiot Guvna might have shrunk the candidate pool and at least made them much harder to deal with.
Homedawg
11-04-2025, 09:43 PM
People can bitch all they want but NIL and the Portal have leveled the playing field and created parity. You don't have to go coach at a certain school to have a shot at a NC.
If we can deliver $25 million in NIL for Lebby and the coaches they can put together a team from what's about to be in the Portal that could be a playoff contender. No joke.
25 mil in nil in addition to rev share. Ain't happening.
HoopsDawg
11-04-2025, 10:01 PM
25 mil in nil in addition to rev share. Ain't happening.
Yeah, that?s hilarious.
How much is invested in the roster without NIL?
Homedawg
11-04-2025, 10:06 PM
Yeah, that?s hilarious.
How much is invested in the roster without NIL?
Rev share a tad over 15. Then there is clearly a need and we have some nil in top. But some of that will be for people that want it to go to hooos and baseball. And ain't no way we are coming up w 15 mil more much less 25 for football
HoopsDawg
11-04-2025, 10:24 PM
Rev share a tad over 15. Then there is clearly a need and we have some nil in top. But some of that will be for people that want it to go to hooos and baseball. And ain't no way we are coming up w 15 mil more much less 25 for football
What would be a good number? 15 from rev share then another 10 from NIL? 25 mill spent the right way, with a good staff, seems like it could get us into the playoffs.
StarkVegasSteve
11-05-2025, 10:01 AM
What would be a good number? 15 from rev share then another 10 from NIL? 25 mill spent the right way, with a good staff, seems like it could get us into the playoffs.
We really do not need to give much at all to baseball tbh. Let O Connor fundraise that money with the baseball only boosters. He can get plenty from them. I have said for 5 years, and especially since Rev Share went into effect, that you need to spend 90-95 percent of that money on football and mens basketball because those are the revenue producers on campus. The other sports need to be almost fully NIL funded. Obviously we cannot do that because baseball is more important here than all but about two other places in the country but we just cannot be giving them very much at all of the rev share money
TrapGame
11-05-2025, 10:41 AM
Rev share a tad over 15. Then there is clearly a need and we have some nil in top. But some of that will be for people that want it to go to hooos and baseball. And ain't no way we are coming up w 15 mil more much less 25 for football
So what are we looking to spend for portal players?
TrapGame
11-05-2025, 04:59 PM
The rumor at Auburn currently is Durkin is the failsafe option if the top three or four coaches say no.
A couple of AU insiders have told podcasters that there is interest brewing with Kenny Dillingham. That would be interesting if true.
Coursesuper
11-05-2025, 05:05 PM
The rumor at Auburn currently is Durkin is the failsafe option if the top three or four coaches say no.
A couple of AU insiders have told podcasters that there is interest brewing with Kenny Dillingham. That would be interesting if true.
I don?t think that his experience there would leave any warm fuzzy feelings for the prettiest village on the plain.
TrapGame
11-05-2025, 05:11 PM
I don?t think that his experience there would leave any warm fuzzy feelings for the prettiest village on the plain.
Right now the top guy on Auburn's and Arkansas's list is Jon Sumrall per Brandon Marcello. He thinks Sumrall ends up at one of them and it's probably Auburn.
EdwardDrayton
11-05-2025, 06:22 PM
Would Marcello truly be in the know?
Dawgology
11-05-2025, 06:38 PM
We really do not need to give much at all to baseball tbh. Let O Connor fundraise that money with the baseball only boosters. He can get plenty from them. I have said for 5 years, and especially since Rev Share went into effect, that you need to spend 90-95 percent of that money on football and mens basketball because those are the revenue producers on campus. The other sports need to be almost fully NIL funded. Obviously we cannot do that because baseball is more important here than all but about two other places in the country but we just cannot be giving them very much at all of the rev share money
I thought you said that was all fully funded by baseball only boosters…hmmmmm?
Homedawg
11-05-2025, 07:04 PM
I thought you said that was all fully funded by baseball only boosters…hmmmmm?
That's just playing w words.
Maverick91
11-05-2025, 07:18 PM
The rumor at Auburn currently is Durkin is the failsafe option if the top three or four coaches say no.
A couple of AU insiders have told podcasters that there is interest brewing with Kenny Dillingham. That would be interesting if true.
That cat matches MSU way more than he does Auburn and their snooty somewhat football knowledge culture.
Pancho
11-05-2025, 08:03 PM
I doubt they can do better than Durkin
StarkVegasSteve
11-05-2025, 08:09 PM
I doubt they can do better than Durkin
They can. Someone will take the bag they are offering, not win enough to their fans liking, and be fired within 3 years. Sound like another SEC team?? It's Florida. They are literally the same program.
Recruit at a high level....Check
Unlimited Resources....Check
Fans Support.....Check(and Auburn honestly has better)
Crazy Expectations that Make No Sense....Check
Will Hire A Coach Specifically To Beat a Certain School....Check
Jon Sumrall is a very good coach and would be great hire for aubie and the hogs!
Coursesuper
11-05-2025, 09:10 PM
They can. Someone will take the bag they are offering, not win enough to their fans liking, and be fired within 3 years. Sound like another SEC team?? It's Florida. They are literally the same program.
Recruit at a high level....Check
Unlimited Resources....Check
Fans Support.....Check(and Auburn honestly has better)
Crazy Expectations that Make No Sense....Check
Will Hire A Coach Specifically To Beat a Certain School....Check
All truths
DownwardDawg
11-05-2025, 10:03 PM
Jon Sumrall is a very good coach and would be great hire for aubie and the hogs!
I agree. I think he would do great at either place.
Todd4State
11-06-2025, 12:10 AM
A couple of things and I guess both are LSU related.
I'm confused as to why Tennessee is all of a sudden putting Heupel on the hot seat? He's 43-18 in his career there and after his first year he has been a 9-10 game winner every year. And has a pretty good chance of winning 9-10 games again this year. I know they're a blueblood but after Fulmer they have been wondering in the wilderness until they got Heupel. Kind of makes me wonder if there is something going on behind the scenes there with Gruden trying to get the Tennessee job? I know that's a conspiracy theory but I just can't think of anything else that makes sense. Why would they think a guy like Alex Golesh would be a significant upgrade?
If Heupel lands in LSU's lap after all of this- that's a HUGE win for them.
Speaking of LSU, I noticed today that they immediately have hired a President and a Chancellor which pretty much takes Landry out of the equation. And I'm sure they'll have an AD in place soon. Pretty much the polar opposite of how MSU reacted after Leach passed away.
DownwardDawg
11-06-2025, 12:15 AM
A couple of things and I guess both are LSU related.
I'm confused as to why Tennessee is all of a sudden putting Heupel on the hot seat? He's 43-18 in his career there and after his first year he has been a 9-10 game winner every year. And has a pretty good chance of winning 9-10 games again this year. I know they're a blueblood but after Fulmer they have been wondering in the wilderness until they got Heupel. Kind of makes me wonder if there is something going on behind the scenes there with Gruden trying to get the Tennessee job? I know that's a conspiracy theory but I just can't think of anything else that makes sense. Why would they think a guy like Alex Golesh would be a significant upgrade?
If Heupel lands in LSU's lap after all of this- that's a HUGE win for them.
Speaking of LSU, I noticed today that they immediately have hired a President and a Chancellor which pretty much takes Landry out of the equation. And I'm sure they'll have an AD in place soon. Pretty much the polar opposite of how MSU reacted after Leach passed away.
Very good points. LSU is getting their ducks in a row. And the Huepel stuff is crazy is TN is actually not happy with him. He's been fantastic.
Todd4State
11-06-2025, 12:16 AM
I thought you said that was all fully funded by baseball only boosters?hmmmmm?
Here's the thing about baseball. We have some guys that played baseball at MSU or were part of MSU that have become highly successful in the game and they have gotten paid.
Of course those types are going to give to MSU baseball. There's a direct connection there. And MSU is a part of the reason for their success.
Some of them donate to other sports at MSU as well.
On top of that, as we have discussed before the stadium will be paid off and the licenses for the seats are about to be redone in the near future. Once that happens, it's even more money for baseball and MSU athletics.
Todd4State
11-06-2025, 12:21 AM
Right now the top guy on Auburn's and Arkansas's list is Jon Sumrall per Brandon Marcello. He thinks Sumrall ends up at one of them and it's probably Auburn.
Sumrall is realizing that his ceiling is a lot higher than Kentucky. If Kentucky fires Stoops they're going to end up with some coordinator if I had to guess.
Todd4State
11-06-2025, 12:24 AM
Very good points. LSU is getting their ducks in a row. And the Huepel stuff is crazy is TN is actually not happy with him. He's been fantastic.
Kelly won games there so they're going to have to try to find someone that can elevate what he did. But firing Kelly makes sense. He was weird fit and they were losing games that they shouldn't have.
So, LSU knows that they have to get it right or they're going to look like clowns. And the first order of business was shutting up Landry.
BrunswickDawg
11-06-2025, 06:39 AM
A couple of things and I guess both are LSU related.
I'm confused as to why Tennessee is all of a sudden putting Heupel on the hot seat? He's 43-18 in his career there and after his first year he has been a 9-10 game winner every year. And has a pretty good chance of winning 9-10 games again this year. I know they're a blueblood but after Fulmer they have been wondering in the wilderness until they got Heupel. Kind of makes me wonder if there is something going on behind the scenes there with Gruden trying to get the Tennessee job? I know that's a conspiracy theory but I just can't think of anything else that makes sense. Why would they think a guy like Alex Golesh would be a significant upgrade?
If Heupel lands in LSU's lap after all of this- that's a HUGE win for them.
Speaking of LSU, I noticed today that they immediately have hired a President and a Chancellor which pretty much takes Landry out of the equation. And I'm sure they'll have an AD in place soon. Pretty much the polar opposite of how MSU reacted after Leach passed away.
Answer to your question about TN - is those people are and always have been batshit crazy. Yes, they claim 6 Nattys (but only 1 since integration)- but in their minds they are Alabama's equal or superior. I have friend who is a former D1 HC who went to TN in the 90s as a position coach. He swears they have the most insane fans of any school in the country.
Count Istvan Teleky
11-06-2025, 09:06 AM
A couple of things and I guess both are LSU related.
Speaking of LSU, I noticed today that they immediately have hired a President and a Chancellor which pretty much takes Landry out of the equation. And I'm sure they'll have an AD in place soon. Pretty much the polar opposite of how MSU reacted after Leach passed away.
LSU has been working on the Chancellor and President thing for quite some time - it's not like they started looking last week when all this came down. Maybe that's not what you meant but I took it as such.
TrapGame
11-06-2025, 09:16 AM
Sumrall is realizing that his ceiling is a lot higher than Kentucky. If Kentucky fires Stoops they're going to end up with some coordinator if I had to guess.
Several online betting sites have Sumrall as the favorite to get the Auburn job. He would be a fool to leave Auburn for Kentucky. If he can get the school and the boosters on the same page with him Auburn could come back quick.
Brobi-wan
11-06-2025, 09:34 AM
Several online betting sites have Sumrall as the favorite to get the Auburn job. He would be a fool to leave Auburn for Kentucky. If he can get the school and the boosters on the same page with him Auburn could come back quick.
They won’t be. They haven’t been on the same page for about 4 coaches now.
Coach34
11-06-2025, 09:56 AM
Answer to your question about TN - is those people are and always have been batshit crazy. Yes, they claim 6 Nattys (but only 1 since integration)- but in their minds they are Alabama's equal or superior. I have friend who is a former D1 HC who went to TN in the 90s as a position coach. He swears they have the most insane fans of any school in the country.
any school that fires or pushes out a guy that was in the playoff last season deserves what they get
Auburn fired the GusBus thinking they deserved better and they got exactly what they deserved
Santiago
11-06-2025, 11:14 AM
any school that fires or pushes out a guy that was in the playoff last season deserves what they get
Auburn fired the GusBus thinking they deserved better and they got exactly what they deserved
Agree, TN fan gonna TN Fan and think they deserve better.
Not that I like or agree with Joel Klatt, but did you guys see his recent interview on a show talking about Heupel? Said he is running a Big 12 offense, without giving his defense a break in games.
PGHBulldogBG
11-06-2025, 01:28 PM
I actually don't see UK or Auburn being desirable jobs at the moment. UK has all but said their NIL is going to basketball. Auburn is just a hot mess all around with Cohen as AD and I don't see the AU boosters getting on the same page any time soon. At the same time, I am not sold on Sumrall being that great of a coach. He won at Troy but so did other coaches like Neal Brown who did not pan out. He is now winning at Tulane with Willie Fritz's players. I need to see a bit more out of him. I think Golesh would be a better hire than Sumrall for either program.
MoreCowbell
11-06-2025, 01:35 PM
A couple of things and I guess both are LSU related.
I'm confused as to why Tennessee is all of a sudden putting Heupel on the hot seat? He's 43-18 in his career there and after his first year he has been a 9-10 game winner every year. And has a pretty good chance of winning 9-10 games again this year. I know they're a blueblood but after Fulmer they have been wondering in the wilderness until they got Heupel. Kind of makes me wonder if there is something going on behind the scenes there with Gruden trying to get the Tennessee job? I know that's a conspiracy theory but I just can't think of anything else that makes sense. Why would they think a guy like Alex Golesh would be a significant upgrade?
If Heupel lands in LSU's lap after all of this- that's a HUGE win for them.
Speaking of LSU, I noticed today that they immediately have hired a President and a Chancellor which pretty much takes Landry out of the equation. And I'm sure they'll have an AD in place soon. Pretty much the polar opposite of how MSU reacted after Leach passed away.
I do not consider Tennessee a blue blood. I would put them 6th or 7th in SEC. Probably right there with Auburn and I do not consider Auburn a blue blood.
Coach34
11-06-2025, 01:48 PM
I do not consider Tennessee a blue blood. I would put them 6th or 7th in SEC. Probably right there with Auburn and I do not consider Auburn a blue blood.
Only 6 teams have won the SEC/National Title in the last 60 years
Bama
Auburn
LSU
Georgia
Fla
Tenn
Those are the Bluebloods of the SEC
StarkVegasSteve
11-06-2025, 01:51 PM
A few of names I've been told to watch regarding certain jobs:
LSU: Heupel has a ton of noise right now. But I've also heard Lincoln Riley's name be tossed around on the periphery of things.
Auburn: Kenny Dillingham is the dark horse and has some fans among some prominent boosters. I also keep hearing Brent Key's name come up. If they were to go 11-3 and miss out on the playoffs I've been told he'd be open to make a move.
Arkansas-Alex Golesh has some steam right now along with Ryan Silverfield. I keep waiting for Drinkwitz to be mentioned.
Florida- They've pushed their chips to the middle and are all in on Kiffin. I think they could still get Drink if Kiffin backfired on them.
The Federalist Engineer
11-06-2025, 02:05 PM
Very good points. LSU is getting their ducks in a row. And the Huepel stuff is crazy is TN is actually not happy with him. He's been fantastic.
I remember when Heupel was at Missou and an Elite Dawg said he was a good coach and some Expert said something mean to the smart suggestion.
Everybody here was a Joe Morehead groupie back then.
PGHBulldogBG
11-06-2025, 02:12 PM
I remember when Heupel was at Missou and an Elite Dawg said he was a good coach and some Expert said something mean to the smart suggestion.
Everybody here was a Joe Morehead groupie back then.
It was crazy how our fans and the media fell for Moorhead. At first I was hoping it was a nightmare when we hired him and then sports writers saying it was a good hire was one of the most baffling things in sports. He was clearly a fraud if you just knew a little bit about him.
TrapGame
11-06-2025, 02:17 PM
A few of names I've been told to watch regarding certain jobs:
LSU: Heupel has a ton of noise right now. But I've also heard Lincoln Riley's name be tossed around on the periphery of things.
Auburn: Kenny Dillingham is the dark horse and has some fans among some prominent boosters. I also keep hearing Brent Key's name come up. If they were to go 11-3 and miss out on the playoffs I've been told he'd be open to make a move.
Arkansas-Alex Golesh has some steam right now along with Ryan Silverfield. I keep waiting for Drinkwitz to be mentioned.
Florida- They've pushed their chips to the middle and are all in on Kiffin. I think they could still get Drink if Kiffin backfired on them.
From what I've heard on some podcasts Drink would take the Florida job immediately if offered, but they want Kiffin to tell them no a dozen times before they offer it to him.
And some boosters at Tennessee have royally pissed off Heupel. He saved their program from Coach Asparagus and they are treating him like a failure.
Santiago
11-06-2025, 02:20 PM
A few of names I've been told to watch regarding certain jobs:
LSU: Heupel has a ton of noise right now. But I've also heard Lincoln Riley's name be tossed around on the periphery of things.
Auburn: Kenny Dillingham is the dark horse and has some fans among some prominent boosters. I also keep hearing Brent Key's name come up. If they were to go 11-3 and miss out on the playoffs I've been told he'd be open to make a move.
Arkansas-Alex Golesh has some steam right now along with Ryan Silverfield. I keep waiting for Drinkwitz to be mentioned.
Florida- They've pushed their chips to the middle and are all in on Kiffin. I think they could still get Drink if Kiffin backfired on them.
Nothing beats a new Hog hire, as in watching the coach and his family awkwardly call the hogs at a podium.
StarkVegasSteve
11-06-2025, 02:52 PM
Nothing beats a new Hog hire, as in watching the coach and his family awkwardly call the hogs at a podium.
No a new A&M hire will always beat that. Watching them join a cult never gets old.
Santiago
11-06-2025, 03:17 PM
No a new A&M hire will always beat that. Watching them join a cult never gets old.
winner winner.
TrapGame
11-06-2025, 03:28 PM
No a new A&M hire will always beat that. Watching them join a cult never gets old.
If Elko winds up at Penn State that's why.
StarkVegasSteve
11-06-2025, 05:27 PM
If Elko winds up at Penn State that's why.
That would be the only reason to leave. A&M has a war chest and looks to have finally gotten out of the way and let the coach do the coaching and recruiting and they just cut the checks. It took Texas a while to figure this out, but they finally did as well.
TrapGame
11-07-2025, 10:31 AM
Strong rumor out of Arkansas.
Ryan Silverfield will be the next head coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks.
MoreCowbell
11-07-2025, 10:50 AM
Only 6 teams have won the SEC/National Title in the last 60 years
Bama
Auburn
LSU
Georgia
Fla
Tenn
Those are the Bluebloods of the SEC
Blue blood of the SEC sure, though their championship was the furthest back. They have been more bad than good since then. Also there are 8 teams, Texas and Oklahoma are above them. Thought he meant college football blue blood.
StarkVegasSteve
11-07-2025, 10:52 AM
Strong rumor out of Arkansas.
Ryan Silverfield will be the next head coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks.
I've heard James Franklin this morning. That would be an INCREDIBLE pull for them.
shoeless joe
11-07-2025, 10:54 AM
It was crazy how our fans and the media fell for Moorhead. At first I was hoping it was a nightmare when we hired him and then sports writers saying it was a good hire was one of the most baffling things in sports. He was clearly a fraud if you just knew a little bit about him.
he was clearly a fraud once you heard him speak about football. of all the things cohen did as AD the single most absolutely dumbest was being fooled by JoMo. there is not a single thing on this earth that would lead me to believe that any halfway competent human being should have been gullible enough to fall for his shtick and think he could run a p5 program...much less one in the SEC.
TrapGame
11-07-2025, 10:54 AM
I've heard James Franklin this morning. That would be an INCREDIBLE pull for them.
There was an Arkansas podcaster saying keep an eye on James Franklin last night but I'm taking that one with a truck load of salt.
TrapGame
11-07-2025, 10:56 AM
he was clearly a fraud once you heard him speak about football. of all the things cohen did as AD the single most absolutely dumbest was being fooled by JoMo. there is not a single thing on this earth that would lead me to believe that any halfway competent human being should have been gullible enough to fall for his shtick and think he could run a p5 program...much less one in the SEC.
Joe is a snake oil salesman. He has yet to have a winning season at Akron. He can't even beat teams in his own conference. Cohen fell for it hook, line and sinker.
StarkVegasSteve
11-07-2025, 11:01 AM
There was an Arkansas podcaster saying keep an eye on James Franklin last night but I'm taking that one with a truck load of salt.
It's more real than you think. The DFW Arkansas guys were a little butthurt last weekend because: A) They blew a 14 pt lead on their home field and B) Lashlee signed the SMU extension and got an updet win over Miami. But to their credit, they dusted themselves off Sunday morning and got on the phone and started making calls to John Tyson, the Hunts, Yurachek, etc. and started really upping things from a salary and NIL perspective.
Coach34
11-07-2025, 11:03 AM
he was clearly a fraud once you heard him speak about football. of all the things cohen did as AD the single most absolutely dumbest was being fooled by JoMo. there is not a single thing on this earth that would lead me to believe that any halfway competent human being should have been gullible enough to fall for his shtick and think he could run a p5 program...much less one in the SEC.
When a HC tells his assistant coaches "I'm not gonna run that shit I dont care how many games we lose" it shows he is clearly not the guy for the job because he refuses to adapt to the talent that he has.
TrapGame
11-07-2025, 11:05 AM
It's more real than you think. The DFW Arkansas guys were a little butthurt last weekend because: A) They blew a 14 pt lead on their home field and B) Lashlee signed the SMU extension and got an updet win over Miami. But to their credit, they dusted themselves off Sunday morning and got on the phone and started making calls to John Tyson, the Hunts, Yurachek, etc. and started really upping things from a salary and NIL perspective.
That's crazy. That would be a good get for the Hogs.
StarkVegasSteve
11-07-2025, 11:06 AM
When a HC tells his assistant coaches "I'm not gonna run that shit I dont care how many games we lose" it shows he is clearly not the guy for the job because he refuses to adapt to the talent that he has.
I will to this day never understand how Hud convinced him to run that spread option, speed sweep hybrid type offense we ran against Auburn in 18. I mean it confirmed fact that Hud walked into his office and said he'd quit if we didn't. But Joe never really cared what his assistants thought honestly.
StarkVegasSteve
11-07-2025, 11:15 AM
That's crazy. That would be a good get for the Hogs.
There's rumors that there's WalMart money involved this time. I have no clue to the validity of that one because the last time I talked to anyone that would know about that stuff, the Walton's and any of their family members don't really donate to Arkansas outside of the Business School. Mr. Sam was a massive Razorback fan, but the rest of the kids and grandkids really don't give a rip about it tbh
TrapGame
11-07-2025, 11:17 AM
I will to this day never understand how Hud convinced him to run that spread option, speed sweep hybrid type offense we ran against Auburn in 18. I mean it confirmed fact that Hud walked into his office and said he'd quit if we didn't. But Joe never really cared what his assistants thought honestly.
Huff and Hud put together those game plans for Joe against AU and A&M. They delivered to him two victories on a silver platter. He still bitched about it.
That's up there with Croom chewing out Wes Carrol for audibling out of a run play to a pass play, getting the wide open TD and winning the game. Croom told him you run the play called, don't change it. Wes saw the defense had loaded the box and was man coverage.
Coach34
11-07-2025, 11:25 AM
I will to this day never understand how Hud convinced him to run that spread option, speed sweep hybrid type offense we ran against Auburn in 18. I mean it confirmed fact that Hud walked into his office and said he'd quit if we didn't. But Joe never really cared what his assistants thought honestly.
They had been trying to get him to do more of it in previous weeks and it came to a head after the Fla loss. When it worked for Auburn and made Jovester look bad- thats when he declared running his shit was more important than winning.
StarkVegasSteve
11-07-2025, 11:25 AM
Huff and Hud put together those game plans for Joe against AU and A&M. They delivered to him two victories on a silver platter. He still bitched about it.
That's up there with Croom chewing out Wes Carrol for audibling out of a run play to a pass play, getting the wide open TD and winning the game. Croom told him you run the play called, don't change it. Wes saw the defense had loaded the box and was man coverage.
I still remember our team almost being late to the 08 game at La Tech because Croom's lazy ass didn't want to leave. We already were leaving a day late because he'd changed the plan and wanted to leave day of the game. Our players thought they were going to have to board the flight in everything but shoulder pads and helmets. As many good memories as he gave us in 07, he wiped them all away in 08 with his laziness and just thinking he had it made.
Santiago
11-07-2025, 11:26 AM
There's rumors that there's WalMart money involved this time. I have no clue to the validity of that one because the last time I talked to anyone that would know about that stuff, the Walton's and any of their family members don't really donate to Arkansas outside of the Business School. Mr. Sam was a massive Razorback fan, but the rest of the kids and grandkids really don't give a rip about it tbh
An arkansas person mentioned their next AD might be someone with connections to the Stephens family to maybe get that money also. But I have no info really on Arkansas folk.
shoeless joe
11-07-2025, 11:35 AM
When a HC tells his assistant coaches "I'm not gonna run that shit I dont care how many games we lose" it shows he is clearly not the guy for the job because he refuses to adapt to the talent that he has.
no doubt
but my point is that it damn sure didn't take til then to know it. as soon as he got behind the podium and started talking at his opening presser i was like "oh s__t"!
you should know as much as anyone that in order to lead any group or a team...much less 18-24 yr old young men...you must project confidence, knowledge, and inspire. and i'm not talking about fake projection, you have to really give off those inherent traits. and no one can spot a fake faster than a group of young people on a sports team. i've witnessed it so many times where the exact same words from two different individuals have vastly different effects on a team. the players must have confidence and belief that their leader is competent and can back up what they are trying to say. i just find it hard to believe that anyone and i mean ANYONE that has been in the coaching realm of the sports world couldn't spot the phoniness in JoMo from second 1.
StarkVegasSteve
11-07-2025, 11:40 AM
no doubt
but my point is that it damn sure didn't take til then to know it. as soon as he got behind the podium and started talking at his opening presser i was like "oh s__t"!
you should know as much as anyone that in order to lead any group or a team...much less 18-24 yr old young men...you must project confidence, knowledge, and inspire. and i'm not talking about fake projection, you have to really give off those inherent traits. and no one can spot a fake faster than a group of young people on a sports team. i've witnessed it so many times where the exact same words from two different individuals have vastly different effects on a team. the players must have confidence and belief that their leader is competent and can back up what they are trying to say. i just find it hard to believe that anyone and i mean ANYONE that has been in the coaching realm of the sports world couldn't spot the phoniness in JoMo from second 1.
I started having my doubts when everyone was getting excited about his offense and I took one look and said, "Nick can't run 95% of this."
Of course everyone called me an idiot and said it really wasn't that difficult of an offense to learn.
Santiago
11-07-2025, 11:53 AM
He had a bunch of coaching pills though ***
TrapGame
11-07-2025, 12:02 PM
no doubt
but my point is that it damn sure didn't take til then to know it. as soon as he got behind the podium and started talking at his opening presser i was like "oh s__t"!
you should know as much as anyone that in order to lead any group or a team...much less 18-24 yr old young men...you must project confidence, knowledge, and inspire. and i'm not talking about fake projection, you have to really give off those inherent traits. and no one can spot a fake faster than a group of young people on a sports team. i've witnessed it so many times where the exact same words from two different individuals have vastly different effects on a team. the players must have confidence and belief that their leader is competent and can back up what they are trying to say. i just find it hard to believe that anyone and i mean ANYONE that has been in the coaching realm of the sports world couldn't spot the phoniness in JoMo from second 1.
James Franklin did. It took the first few games of Joe's first year at Penn State. He realized Joe's offense was all talk and smoke and mirrors. Fortunately, he had Saquon Barkley.
That's why he gave Cohen a glowing review, helped Joe pack the moving van and set the GPS for Starkville personally.
Todd4State
11-07-2025, 12:29 PM
I started having my doubts when everyone was getting excited about his offense and I took one look and said, "Nick can't run 95% of this."
Of course everyone called me an idiot and said it really wasn't that difficult of an offense to learn.
Nick really struggled picking up any offense. He legitimately has NFL QB talent but there's a major reason why he never played in the NFL.
Tbonewannabe
11-07-2025, 01:27 PM
Moorhead's offense relied on the defense being slower than an SEC defense to read. He lost me at UK when he kept leaving the first round DE one on one with Fitz dropping back and passing 40 times. It didn't take a genius to figure out to at least chip the guy.
somebodyshotmypaw
11-07-2025, 02:28 PM
Moorhead's offense relied on the defense being slower than an SEC defense to read. He lost me at UK when he kept leaving the first round DE one on one with Fitz dropping back and passing 40 times. It didn't take a genius to figure out to at least chip the guy.
Moorhead struggled to understand the difference between what worked on the white-board versus what actually worked on the field. On the white-board, I can be left tackle and block TJ Watt. On the field he will run my ass over so you better give me tons of help. Also, concepts and reads seem so simple to the offensive-minded coach on the white-board. But can your players make those reads? If so, will the QB and receiver each read them the same way?
DownwardDawg
11-07-2025, 03:16 PM
Simple - Moorehead absolutely sucks as a coach. He sucked here and he has been horrible at Akron. It's not about "his offense" or anything cute like that. He absolutely sucks. The team was fat, lazy, and out of shape when they took the field after his first offseason. They were extremely undisciplined and lacked direction. There are no excuses other than he is a terrible coach.
Now, let's get back to some real coaching rumors!!!!!
Does Malzahn end up with a HC job this time? I thought he was a great coach at Auburn.
StarkVegasSteve
11-07-2025, 04:13 PM
Simple - Moorehead absolutely sucks as a coach. He sucked here and he has been horrible at Akron. It's not about "his offense" or anything cute like that. He absolutely sucks. The team was fat, lazy, and out of shape when they took the field after his first offseason. They were extremely undisciplined and lacked direction. There are no excuses other than he is a terrible coach.
Now, let's get back to some real coaching rumors!!!!!
Does Malzahn end up with a HC job this time? I thought he was a great coach at Auburn.
Gus doesn't want a HC job anymore. He's happy being an OC.
Pancho
11-07-2025, 06:37 PM
where does Gus land?
1eyedog
11-07-2025, 08:44 PM
Nick really struggled picking up any offense. He legitimately has NFL QB talent but there's a major reason why he never played in the NFL.
Maybe true, but he inarguably had the greatest @$$ kicking of the Ditch that I have ever seen.....Chris Relf was probably second best in Dogtown, Mullen’s first year.....
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There's rumors that there's WalMart money involved this time. I have no clue to the validity of that one because the last time I talked to anyone that would know about that stuff, the Walton's and any of their family members don't really donate to Arkansas outside of the Business School. Mr. Sam was a massive Razorback fan, but the rest of the kids and grandkids really don't give a rip about it tbh
Apparently the university has been pitching to the Waltons (and others) the possibility of college football moving to a super conference in 2030 and the disastrous impact it would have on the local economy if Arkansas doesn?t step up financially and put themselves in a better position to be included in that by then. Just being an SEC school benefits the surrounding area so much for each university, and Alabama attracts merit scholars due to their football success all the time despite not being an outstanding academic school. It?s an interesting play that seems to be getting their attention.
I?ve heard they could go up to $12 million for Franklin with an NIL pool that would be near top 10 in the country.
Coach34
11-07-2025, 09:13 PM
Maybe true, but he inarguably had the greatest @$$ kicking of the Ditch that I have ever seen.....Chris Relf was probably second best in Dogtown, Mullen’s first year.....
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Fitz is one of the best 20 QB's in SEC history. His stats demand you acknowledge that. He was incredible
Coach34
11-07-2025, 09:15 PM
Apparently the university has been pitching to the Waltons (and others) the possibility of college football moving to a super conference in 2030 and the disastrous impact it would have on the local economy if Arkansas doesn?t step up financially and put themselves in a better position to be included in that by then. Just being an SEC school benefits the surrounding area so much for each university, and Alabama attracts merit scholars due to their football success all the time despite not being an outstanding academic school. It?s an interesting play that seems to be getting their attention.
I?ve heard they could go up to $12 million for Franklin with an NIL pool that would be near top 10 in the country.
Every SEC team will be in any Super Conference that is formed. Too much money in the SEC to leave someone out
Coach34
11-07-2025, 09:19 PM
Nick really struggled picking up any offense. He legitimately has NFL QB talent but there's a major reason why he never played in the NFL.
Fitz was a HS QB for 1 season before he was signed to be an SEC QB.
Did Fitz party too much a little early on? Yeah he did. But hell, he was a college QB. Who doesnt like partying and *****?
Had Mullen stayed 1 more year with Fitz- he would be right there with Dakota as legends of Miss State. That 2018 team with Mullen wins at least 10 and probably 11
38843dawg
11-07-2025, 09:23 PM
Apparently the university has been pitching to the Waltons (and others) the possibility of college football moving to a super conference in 2030 and the disastrous impact it would have on the local economy if Arkansas doesn?t step up financially and put themselves in a better position to be included in that by then. Just being an SEC school benefits the surrounding area so much for each university, and Alabama attracts merit scholars due to their football success all the time despite not being an outstanding academic school. It?s an interesting play that seems to be getting their attention.
I?ve heard they could go up to $12 million for Franklin with an NIL pool that would be near top 10 in the country.
Then those people don?t really understand how the current landscape is set up going forward following the court ruling. Revenue share is real and schools are going to allocate funds where they want to and where they think their fans want it. Now of course it could change next month, and there will be challenges in court, but no one and I mean no one really knows how each school is planning on allocating funds. Now some schools, most in the sec, front loaded their money before the court ruling this past summer but after next season things will look different. People that think Drink would pack up and leave mizzou for Arkansas haven?t paid attention to just how much they are committed to football right now. Mizzou is not interested in going too crazy on basketball and they give zero shits about baseball, so of course football has made a big step in recent years because it allowed more funds to go there.
Todd4State
11-07-2025, 09:30 PM
Maybe true, but he inarguably had the greatest @$$ kicking of the Ditch that I have ever seen.....Chris Relf was probably second best in Dogtown, Mullen’s first year.....
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I think Dan used Fitz extremely well. But even then there were limitations. Remember people wondering why we never threw screen passes with him? Because he would fire the ball at 110 MPH on screen passes for some reason. And I'll tell you something really surprising is Joe actually had Fitz run more than Dan did.
Coach34
11-07-2025, 09:32 PM
Flo-rida is All-in on Lame Kitten. LSU is calling Sexton alot also. He has not signed the contract extension at Mississippi
Gonna be interesting until he declares his love for Grenada Without The Lake
Todd4State
11-07-2025, 09:33 PM
Fitz was a HS QB for 1 season before he was signed to be an SEC QB.
Did Fitz party too much a little early on? Yeah he did. But hell, he was a college QB. Who doesnt like partying and *****?
Had Mullen stayed 1 more year with Fitz- he would be right there with Dakota as legends of Miss State. That 2018 team with Mullen wins at least 10 and probably 11
I don't disagree. And to be honest I don't think the partying was really as much an issue as much as the fact that he lacked experience at the position and didn't get much of it in high school.
Todd4State
11-07-2025, 09:34 PM
One thing I want to add about Joe and Fitz- our wide receivers in 2018. Not good. Dan and Billy screwed is there big time.
Santiago
11-07-2025, 09:36 PM
Flo-rida is All-in on Lame Kitten. LSU is calling Sexton alot also. He has not signed the contract extension at Mississippi
Gonna be interesting until he declares his love for Grenada Without The Lake
Those weeks after regular season, and until the playoff game will be fun. I am truly interested how it is handled publicly.
HoopsDawg
11-07-2025, 10:53 PM
One thing I want to add about Joe and Fitz- our wide receivers in 2018. Not good. Dan and Billy screwed is there big time.
Dan could not recruit receivers. It held us back most years.
Maverick91
11-08-2025, 03:14 AM
Would Bob Stoops ever come back. The guy left on a high note. I know he wanted to retire while he had some life left in him but dang. What a time to retire and the way he did was very commendable.
PGHBulldogBG
11-08-2025, 09:11 AM
I am probably one of the biggest Moorhead haters, but we still weren?t beating Bama or LSU in BR in 2018 because we didn?t have a good enough passing game. That said, any other coach would have had control enough of the team to go 10-2 and get a NY6 bowl and not have a tutor scandal.
Coach34
11-08-2025, 01:50 PM
I am probably one of the biggest Moorhead haters, but we still weren?t beating Bama or LSU in BR in 2018 because we didn?t have a good enough passing game. That said, any other coach would have had control enough of the team to go 10-2 and get a NY6 bowl and not have a tutor scandal.
Mullen would have given us a chance in both of those games. If you remember- LSU was in a rainstorm that year. We held LSU to 239 yards of total offense.
DownwardDawg
11-08-2025, 02:15 PM
I am probably one of the biggest Moorhead haters, but we still weren?t beating Bama or LSU in BR in 2018 because we didn?t have a good enough passing game. That said, any other coach would have had control enough of the team to go 10-2 and get a NY6 bowl and not have a tutor scandal.
Would have whipped LSU. Fitz threw 5 interceptions. Mullen wouldn't have thrown a pass. Defense stuffed LSU.
TrapGame
11-12-2025, 09:32 AM
The Vegas favorites as of today?
LSU - Nick Saban. Yes that is kinda shocking.
Florida - Lane Kiffin. And it is by a mile. Drink is second but Kiffin is waaay ahead of him with the odds.
Arkansas- Ryan Silverfield.
Auburn - Jon Sumrall. Behind him is Durkin.
CaptainObvious
11-12-2025, 09:51 AM
The Vegas favorites as of today?
LSU - Nick Saban. Yes that is kinda shocking.
Florida - Lane Kiffin. And it is by a mile. Drink is second but Kiffin is waaay ahead of him with the odds.
Arkansas- Ryan Silverfield.
Auburn - Jon Sumrall. Behind him is Durkin.
Sorry. Can?t buy the first one. There is a Statue of Nick Saban at Bryant-Denny. No way will the Tide powers allow it to stand if he goes to their second biggest rival! The fans would tear it down!
StarkVegasSteve
11-12-2025, 10:06 AM
Sorry. Can?t buy the first one. There is a Statue of Nick Saban at Bryant-Denny. No way will the Tide powers allow it to stand if he goes to their second biggest rival! The fans would tear it down!
If I was going to place a $50 bet on it today, here's how I'd have it:
Florida-Kiffin. The more this drags on, the more I think it's going to happen. The OM media seems to be getting more worried by the day and that tells me they are hearing not so encouraging things on their end. The only thing ole NotAFan is hanging his hat on is the timing thing.
LSU-Lincoln Riley. Call it a hunch. A lot of LSU people wanted him last time and I think he's had enough of his West Coast experience. He also has rehabbed his image a good bit this year in terms of being a good playcaller.
Auburn-Jon Sumrall. All the talk is this the preferred candidate.
Arkansas- Silverfield has a ton of momentum but I think this thing will turn to Franklin in the end. Also watch out for Drinkwitz here. I think he's a possibility.
confucius say
11-12-2025, 10:13 AM
Mullen would have given us a chance in both of those games. If you remember- LSU was in a rainstorm that year. We held LSU to 239 yards of total offense.
Correct. We would have beaten lsu.
They won 19-7. Their only TD was a 2 yard drive after one of four interceptions we threw. Four!!
We would have won that game something like 17-6.
parabrave
11-12-2025, 10:48 AM
SEC Shorts did a mid week special about the firings. Pretty good check it out,
DownwardDawg
11-12-2025, 01:22 PM
I think Sumrall at Auburn makes them a problem again. He will do very well there. If they also fire Cohen after the hire, then they will be relevant again.
Interpolation_Dawg_EX
11-12-2025, 06:32 PM
Does Joe Judge ever come to MSU? Could be a good mentor that Lebby needs on game days.
Coach34
11-12-2025, 08:50 PM
Does Joe Judge ever come to MSU? Could be a good mentor that Lebby needs on game days.
lol- you obviously dont know about his current job
Todd4State
11-12-2025, 10:34 PM
Does Joe Judge ever come to MSU? Could be a good mentor that Lebby needs on game days.
As an analyst? Maybe.
He's Ole Miss's QB coach and to be quite frank Matt Holocek has a done a very impressive job with Kamario Taylor for us at MSU. I do not want to lose him.
Santiago
11-13-2025, 11:03 AM
McCready on their 247 asked if he had to bet if Lane stays....he said as of today if he had to bet , that the leaves ole miss.
But then again they love the fake hat selections for signing day also.
Todd4State
11-13-2025, 11:16 AM
McCready on their 247 asked if he had to bet if Lane stays....he said as of today if he had to bet , that the leaves ole miss.
But then again they love the fake hat selections for signing day also.
That would cause too much potential discord in the program though. That's why they constantly spread rumors about whoever our coach is leaving.
Their M.O. is to talk about how much their coach loves Oxford and Ole Miss when it comes to coaches they want to keep.
TrapGame
11-13-2025, 12:09 PM
McCready on their 247 asked if he had to bet if Lane stays....he said as of today if he had to bet , that the leaves ole miss.
But then again they love the fake hat selections for signing day also.
If there was the slightest chance Lane was staying Not A Fan would have adamantly said he is staying. Neal has the gist of the back channel discussions and it is all pointing to Lane leaving.
Santiago
11-13-2025, 12:34 PM
Chase Parham on 247 now also posting he is not as confident as a couple weeks ago, and has concern.
BeardoMSU
11-13-2025, 02:32 PM
If there was the slightest chance Lane was staying Not A Fan would have adamantly said he is staying. Neal has the gist of the back channel discussions and it is all pointing to Lane leaving.
Lol. During their podcast YESTERDAY, both Neal and Chase said they'd bet Lane was staying at OM. They must've heard something...
Santiago
11-13-2025, 02:36 PM
Lol. During their podcast YESTERDAY, both Neal and Chase said they'd bet Lane was staying at OM. They must've heard something...
Someone posted over on the ole miss 247 that the players are talking about the posts now also. I just want the doubt in their minds so their fans stay home for the egg bowl.
StarkVegasSteve
11-13-2025, 03:31 PM
Chase Parham on 247 now also posting he is not as confident as a couple weeks ago, and has concern.
They are hearing the same things I have heard for about the last 3-4 days. Florida boosters are growing more confident by the day that they have this thing done. The tide started to change in Oxford Sunday morning.
TrapGame
11-13-2025, 03:58 PM
They are hearing the same things I have heard for about the last 3-4 days. Florida boosters are growing more confident by the day that they have this thing done. The tide started to change in Oxford Sunday morning.
So what happened Saturday night?
Did the kids give their blessing this time?
Santiago
11-13-2025, 04:10 PM
So what happened Saturday night?
Did the kids give their blessing this time?
The one daughter will not be in Oxford much longer it seems, as far as education. The youngest daughter is a freshman at USC. The son, sounds like he might be landing at a really good Florida school that is capable of implementing the forward pass.
TrapGame
11-13-2025, 04:34 PM
Interesting thread on 6pack.
Seems like Florida players have been told today that Kiffin is going to be their new coach.
Dawgology
11-13-2025, 04:55 PM
Lol. During their podcast YESTERDAY, both Neal and Chase said they'd bet Lane was staying at OM. They must've heard something...
TOTALLY!!! Neal and Chase would never NEVER be an Ole Miss mouthpiece. Hahahah
TrapGame
11-13-2025, 05:00 PM
If Lane is staying he better get in front of this Saturday bc there are a bunch of OM folks on X calling him out. The natives are getting restless.
StarkVegasSteve
11-13-2025, 05:03 PM
So what happened Saturday night?
Did the kids give their blessing this time?
There was a call with Jimmy Sexton with some demands Lane had and Hugh Hathcock and the Florida brass met all of them. Salary is north of 15 per from what I was told and that has been basically verified by some OM people. I have said all week, and continue to kind of hear it, it is going to be REALLY TESTY Saturday in Oxford. It is not going to be a comfortable atmosphere. I actually think Kiffin will bury Florida Saturday night. I actually think that benefits him more.
DownwardDawg
11-13-2025, 05:04 PM
If Lane is staying he better get in front of this Saturday bc there are a bunch of OM folks on X calling him out. The natives are getting restless.
Regardless, this is beautiful. This is how you get distracted!!!
StarkVegasSteve
11-13-2025, 05:06 PM
If Lane is staying he better get in front of this Saturday bc there are a bunch of OM folks on X calling him out. The natives are getting restless.
The press conference Saturday night is going to tell a lot. There will be Florida beat writers in there that will make those Jon Sokoloff questions 3 years ago seem like softballs.
Now could all this be posturing on the part of Kiffin? Absolutely. He could be the Are You Ready chant Saturday night while signing his contract with Carter. At this point, I do not believe that will happen. I think the Florida thing is VERY REAL. Their brass is extremely confident.
TrapGame
11-13-2025, 05:07 PM
There was a call with Jimmy Sexton with some demands Lane had and Hugh Hathcock and the Florida brass met all of them. Salary is north of 15 per from what I was told and that has been basically verified by some OM people. I have said all week, and continue to kind of hear it, it is going to be REALLY TESTY Saturday in Oxford. It is not going to be a comfortable atmosphere. I actually think Kiffin will bury Florida Saturday night. I actually think that benefits him more.
People on the Florida boards are saying Lane will officially be named Monday.
Does he coach the Egg Bowl?
Wow.
BeardoMSU
11-13-2025, 05:12 PM
People on the Florida boards are saying Lane will officially be named Monday.
Does he coach the Egg Bowl?
Wow.
I just can't see that happening when his team in all likelihood is going to the playoffs...
StarkVegasSteve
11-13-2025, 05:13 PM
People on the Florida boards are saying Lane will officially be named Monday.
Does he coach the Egg Bowl?
Wow.
I never thought I'd see it, but there's some real confidence from their side right now. And with the bye week upcoming.....I mean.
I will say the chances of that happening are like 1% but in the words of Matt Moscona, "Coaching searches are crazy. Live by one rule: "Believe nothing but consider everything."
I will say that IF he takes the job, I do not believe he coaches a playoff game at OM.
TrapGame
11-13-2025, 05:34 PM
If Lane is taking the Florida job he isn?t waiting until after the playoffs (and I am sure Florida isn?t going to wait until January to name him head coach). If he becomes the next head coach his primary and sole concern is the Florida football program not OM. At that point OM has to fend for themselves with Golding as interim.
StarkVegasSteve
11-13-2025, 05:38 PM
If Lane is taking the Florida job he isn?t waiting until after the playoffs (and I am sure Florida isn?t going to wait until January to name him head coach). If he becomes the next head coach his primary and sole concern is the Florida football program not OM. At that point OM has to fend for themselves with Golding as interim.
I think Joe Judge would actually be the interim so they could keep the structure the same. I actually think Joe would have a decent shot at the full time job too. I still think their list is:
1. Sumrall
2. Golding
3. Judge
TrapGame
11-13-2025, 05:50 PM
I think Joe Judge would actually be the interim so they could keep the structure the same. I actually think Joe would have a decent shot at the full time job too. I still think their list is:
1. Sumrall
2. Golding
3. Judge
If Lane leaves before the playoffs I foresee some business decisions being made by the players.
If Joe can keep it together after Kiffin leaves he would need a good look as full time HC.
BeardoMSU
11-13-2025, 06:13 PM
If Lane leaves before the playoffs I foresee some business decisions being made by the players.
If Joe can keep it together after Kiffin leaves he would need a good look as full time HC.
Jesus, that would be hilarious/amazing.
1eyedog
11-13-2025, 06:37 PM
Either he stays and it is one of the greatest troll/pay shakedown/ art ever seen. If he leaves......he really screws the om power structure.....I personally think he stays....milks om law school for everything they need to file another class action lawsuit over, and gets within one or wins the NC. I truly hope I am an idiot and horribly wrong.......but I have a very bad feeling .....Coach Lebby....GO DOGS.....IN CLOSING THERE IS NO WAY he quits before the playoffs.......makes absolutely NO SENSE...
Activated Alpha
11-13-2025, 06:43 PM
Either he stays and it is one of the greatest troll/pay shakedown/ art ever seen. If he leaves......he really screws the om power structure.....I personally think he stays....milks om law school for everything they need to file another class action lawsuit over, and gets within one or wins the NC. I truly hope I am an idiot and horribly wrong.......but I have a very bad feeling .....Coach Lebby....GO DOGS.....
Now I will admit OM is a solid team with some lucky breaks, but from watching Big 10 football the past decade and seeing Ohio State play this year, ain?t no way in hell does OM beat them
Santiago
11-13-2025, 07:02 PM
There was a call with Jimmy Sexton with some demands Lane had and Hugh Hathcock and the Florida brass met all of them. Salary is north of 15 per from what I was told and that has been basically verified by some OM people. I have said all week, and continue to kind of hear it, it is going to be REALLY TESTY Saturday in Oxford. It is not going to be a comfortable atmosphere. I actually think Kiffin will bury Florida Saturday night. I actually think that benefits him more.
just adding to that, doesn't Lane also have a few Florida commits visiting the game? That is funny.
Now I will admit OM is a solid team with some lucky breaks, but from watching Big 10 football the past decade and seeing Ohio State play this year, ain?t no way in hell does OM beat them
Just curious how many starters does Ole Miss lose after this year?
Santiago
11-13-2025, 07:07 PM
A funny comment on ole miss board- a poster says if Lane leaves they might have more NIL booster money because several stopped because they don't like Lane. They are already spinning it.
I hope he goes to FL, and then trolls ole miss on twitter and see if they think it is still cute and funny.
TNDawg35
11-13-2025, 07:33 PM
Has anything thought about their replacement. The way few times Kidfen was “leaving” it was they were hiring Lebby cause they are practically the same and Lebby made Corral and half of Dart… Now it’s the other way around…
Mjoelner34
11-13-2025, 08:59 PM
Since Kiffin is all about splash, has a coach ever switched teams at halftime? LOL
Bothrops
11-13-2025, 09:02 PM
The transfer portal is going to be gutted.
BigDawg81
11-13-2025, 09:57 PM
I’m betting that they will promote Golding
Todd4State
11-14-2025, 12:32 AM
There was a call with Jimmy Sexton with some demands Lane had and Hugh Hathcock and the Florida brass met all of them. Salary is north of 15 per from what I was told and that has been basically verified by some OM people. I have said all week, and continue to kind of hear it, it is going to be REALLY TESTY Saturday in Oxford. It is not going to be a comfortable atmosphere. I actually think Kiffin will bury Florida Saturday night. I actually think that benefits him more.
Honestly, I don't know if all of this is true or not- I believe you by the way- but I will say that Kiffin leaving his team with one game left in the regular season definitely sounds like something he would do.
Todd4State
11-14-2025, 12:39 AM
Has anything thought about their replacement. The way few times Kidfen was “leaving” it was they were hiring Lebby cause they are practically the same and Lebby made Corral and half of Dart… Now it’s the other way around…
I don't know. Who is the sleaziest coach that they could hire? Durkin? He does have ties to Ole Miss and Kiffin and is looking for a head coaching job.
I figure Sumrall will take the Auburn job if I had to guess. They're probably not going to hire Judge because he graduated from MSU. And I would be surprised if they just promote Golding. That's too similar to what we did with Arnett. That will probably scare them out of doing that. I could see them maybe promoting Charlie Weis, Jr.
I will say this- it's going to be really hard for them to replace Kiffin. Impossible actually. If he leaves.
And you know what they say about how in coaching you don't want to be the guy after "the guy". That along with the coaching job market this offseason could make it difficult to hire someone.
Todd4State
11-14-2025, 12:43 AM
The one daughter will not be in Oxford much longer it seems, as far as education. The youngest daughter is a freshman at USC. The son, sounds like he might be landing at a really good Florida school that is capable of implementing the forward pass.
Yeah. His daughter at Ole Miss has to be at least a junior at least and I think she is actually older than that. Plus she is dating a LB from LSU so the dynamic is very different for her compared to 2022.
And as far as his son, he could potentially play at IMG and Lane could watch him play pretty easily.
Pancho
11-14-2025, 07:39 AM
I’m betting that they will promote Golding
Pete dam sure ain't going to gainesville with Lane. Petes wife has decided that for all of em.
Pancho
11-14-2025, 07:44 AM
I'm hearing Judge might be interim if Lane bolts. Gotta see if he signs the documents Carter has for him to be the highest paid HC in the country and stay in oxford a few more years.
ZedFedder
11-14-2025, 08:10 AM
This one truly feels 50/50
Pancho
11-14-2025, 08:15 AM
It is all 100% on Lane. big decision for the boy for sure. he will be told to sign or go onto florida and then he would not be in starkville the day after thanksgiving.
BeardoMSU
11-14-2025, 08:38 AM
It is all 100% on Lane. big decision for the boy for sure. he will be told to sign or go onto florida and then he would not be in starkville the day after thanksgiving.
Would be quite fortuitous to catch them with an interim and a big chunk of the team halfway out the door...
Talk about the dream scenario to **** OM fans, lol.
DawgFromOxford
11-14-2025, 08:40 AM
I can see Lane leaving for Florida. I would be SHOCKED if he leaves OM high and dry in the playoffs. Don?t see that happening at all. Only way he bolts to FL early is if they miss the playoffs
Pancho
11-14-2025, 08:43 AM
Carter will do his best to have Lane sign and make it public sometime next week. They are tiring of his ploy currently up there.
Todd4State
11-14-2025, 11:47 AM
Pete dam sure ain't going to gainesville with Lane. Petes wife has decided that for all of em.
I wonder why she doesn't want to go there?
It may be moot because I could see Golding up for some G5 head coaching jobs and some other P4 DC jobs with all of the traffic anyway.
StarkVegasSteve
11-14-2025, 11:56 AM
I wonder why she doesn't want to go there?
It may be moot because I could see Golding up for some G5 head coaching jobs and some other P4 DC jobs with all of the traffic anyway.
Because she's an acct professor at OM, got her law degree from OM, her family lives in Cleveland, and this is the closest they have been to them since Pete was at Delta St.
She's made it very clear, he can go wherever he wants but she is staying in Oxford. And if he wants to stay married, he will stay in Oxford.
Todd4State
11-14-2025, 12:07 PM
Because she's an acct professor at OM, got her law degree from OM, her family lives in Cleveland, and this is the closest they have been to them since Pete was at Delta St.
She's made it very clear, he can go wherever he wants but she is staying in Oxford. And if he wants to stay married, he will stay in Oxford.
I see. Man, it's hard when you are a coach. When you marry into that profession you know moving around is part of it.
Coach34
11-14-2025, 12:13 PM
Carter will do his best to have Lane sign and make it public sometime next week. They are tiring of his ploy currently up there.
I dont see any way they would put Lame on the road to Gainesville before the EB or even before the playoff. It's a very special season for them at this point and you dont just throw it away because your HC may leave. If Fla really wants him and truly believes he is the guy? They will wait for him. Just as Mullen did with Fla when he took our job- there are things he can be doing to get things going at Fla while he is still coaching Mississippi and getting them ready for playoff match-ups. Right now you are just hearing a bunch of what-ifs and butthurt comments from people
basedog
11-14-2025, 12:17 PM
I dont see any way they would put Lame on the road to Gainesville before the EB or even before the playoff. It's a very special season for them at this point and you dont just throw it away because your HC may leave. If Fla really wants him and truly believes he is the guy? They will wait for him. Just as Mullen did with Fla when he took our job- there are things he can be doing to get things going at Fla while he is still coaching Mississippi and getting them ready for playoff match-ups. Right now you are just hearing a bunch of what-ifs and butthurt comments from people
I agree; he could make a secret commit to Fl but only after OM season ends will it be announced. But in today's world anything can happen.
AlSwearengen
11-14-2025, 12:19 PM
the schedule gets tougher for them next year, right? Before this week he could do no wrong; but after the stalling and talking with florida, he has lost a little bit of grace. If he stays put, he will be making alot of money with a tougher road to make the playoffs going forward. I wonder how many years of missing the playoffs before they start bitching; especially when they realize they have spent alot of money that could have gone to other sports.
StarkVegasSteve
11-14-2025, 12:33 PM
I dont see any way they would put Lame on the road to Gainesville before the EB or even before the playoff. It's a very special season for them at this point and you dont just throw it away because your HC may leave. If Fla really wants him and truly believes he is the guy? They will wait for him. Just as Mullen did with Fla when he took our job- there are things he can be doing to get things going at Fla while he is still coaching Mississippi and getting them ready for playoff match-ups. Right now you are just hearing a bunch of what-ifs and butthurt comments from people
If he is going to take the Florida job, I don't think he coaches OM in a playoff game. If he is coaching OM in Rd 1 of the playoffs, he is not leaving OM for another college job. I still think there is some NFL interest with him as well. The Titans, Dolphins, and Giants all seem to be interested.
DEDawg
11-14-2025, 12:45 PM
Because she's an acct professor at OM, got her law degree from OM, her family lives in Cleveland, and this is the closest they have been to them since Pete was at Delta St.
She's made it very clear, he can go wherever he wants but she is staying in Oxford. And if he wants to stay married, he will stay in Oxford.
sounds like a golden ticket to get out of a crappy relationship
BeardoMSU
11-14-2025, 12:46 PM
The Ross Dellinger puff piece has OM stepping away from the edge.
HancockCountyDog
11-14-2025, 01:13 PM
I agree; he could make a secret commit to Fl but only after OM season ends will it be announced. But in today's world anything can happen.
The only problem is that signing day is December 3rd, playoff announcement is December 7th. If they go 1-1 the next two weeks (that would be my bet) I still think they get in as a 9-10 seed.
Florida going to wait until after first round of playoffs - i.e. December 19-20? I don't see that happening. Also, if they are going to wait - are the bears going to let it play out like that? I mean the portal opens January 2nd. What happens if they win a playoff game?
The logistics are a nightmare for both the bears and gators.
TrapGame
11-14-2025, 01:40 PM
The only problem is that signing day is December 3rd, playoff announcement is December 7th. If they go 1-1 the next two weeks (that would be my bet) I still think they get in as a 9-10 seed.
Florida going to wait until after first round of playoffs - i.e. December 19-20? I don't see that happening. Also, if they are going to wait - are the bears going to let it play out like that? I mean the portal opens January 2nd. What happens if they win a playoff game?
The logistics are a nightmare for both the bears and gators.
If Kiffin takes the Florida job he will not be coaching OM in the playoffs. Florida is not waiting until January to get a coach on the ground recruiting and rebuilding the program. I just can?t see Kiffin coaching OM on the sidelines during a playoff game while the announcers in the both are talking about how he?s officially leaving for Florida once the playoffs are over. And it would be even more hilarious if they are talking to Scott Strickland in the booth as they?re doing this.
Coach34
11-14-2025, 01:57 PM
Florida is not waiting until January to get a coach on the ground recruiting and rebuilding the program. .
Why not? They are already going to be after the Dec signing period. Next signing period is in Feb- having a new HC that just made a run in the playoffs would be a prime headliner and something to sell to new players instead of "hey- meet Coach Drink- he just went 7-5 at Mizzou this past season!!!!!!"
basedog
11-14-2025, 02:00 PM
If Kiffin takes the Florida job he will not be coaching OM in the playoffs. Florida is not waiting until January to get a coach on the ground recruiting and rebuilding the program. I just can?t see Kiffin coaching OM on the sidelines during a playoff game while the announcers in the both are talking about how he?s officially leaving for Florida once the playoffs are over. And it would be even more hilarious if they are talking to Scott Strickland in the booth as they?re doing this.
Kiffin would take every good player Ole Dixie has available with him to Florida. Transfers and portals are the new recruiting now days.
TrapGame
11-14-2025, 02:09 PM
Why not? They are already going to be after the Dec signing period. Next signing period is in Feb- having a new HC that just made a run in the playoffs would be a prime headliner and something to sell to new players instead of "hey- meet Coach Drink- he just went 7-5 at Mizzou this past season!!!!!!"
Man, I just cannot see Lane Kiffin coaching in a playoff game when everyone knows he is legitimately and officially going to Florida. How are the OM people gonna cheer that on? Talk about bittersweet.
Coach34
11-14-2025, 02:42 PM
Man, I just cannot see Lane Kiffin coaching in a playoff game when everyone knows he is legitimately and officially going to Florida. How are the OM people gonna cheer that on? Talk about bittersweet.
I dont get that way of thinking. How could you not cheer for your team in the playoffs? Special years are few and far between- why worry about next year?
When we were in Omaha in 2021- I wasnt worried about 2022 at all
CaptainObvious
11-14-2025, 03:25 PM
I was in Omaha in 2021 and went to a Taro Card Reading and saw the future for 2022 and 2023. It wasn?t pleasant to look at. And the reader even told me 2024 would be somewhat better but it would be fools gold and by mid 2024 I would finally get some decent knews! Man, that Reader was spot on!!!
Pancho
11-14-2025, 03:55 PM
There is a possibility of Oxford High playing in the 7A north final on the same day as the BFTGE and if they were to win that, the 7A state final is also in starkville on saturday Dec 6 . Maybe Lame waits til Knox's high school season is over before anything goes public. Just a thought and that would keep the velvet ditch crazies at bay.
StarkVegasSteve
11-14-2025, 04:02 PM
There is a possibility of Oxford High playing in the 7A north final on the same day as the BFTGE and if they were to win that, the 7A state final is also in starkville on saturday Dec 6 . Maybe Lame waits til Knox's high school season is over before anything goes public. Just a thought and that would keep the velvet ditch crazies at bay.
Nothing short of Lane signing an extension is going to keep them at bay.
Pancho
11-14-2025, 04:05 PM
They are already acting out all over town today. So senseless.
Pinto
11-14-2025, 04:31 PM
Anyone know the EQ truck driver for Florida? I?d pay him a tidy sum to park that truck in front of Kiffens house tonight and tomorrow.
TrapGame
11-14-2025, 06:10 PM
I dont get that way of thinking. How could you not cheer for your team in the playoffs? Special years are few and far between- why worry about next year?
When we were in Omaha in 2021- I wasnt worried about 2022 at all
And Lemonis wasn't named the head coach of another baseball program while coaching in the dugout either.
Lane Kiffin officially going to Florida but still coaching ole miss in the playoffs is going to be the most surreal shit in college football.
Coach34
11-14-2025, 07:44 PM
And Lemonis wasn't named the head coach of another baseball program while coaching in the dugout either.
Lane Kiffin officially going to Florida but still coaching ole miss in the playoffs is going to be the most surreal shit in college football.
I dont see him being named HC anywhere until Mississippi's season is over
Todd4State
11-14-2025, 08:26 PM
I dont see him being named HC anywhere until Mississippi's season is over
At least regular season for sure.
Todd4State
11-14-2025, 08:29 PM
Man, I just cannot see Lane Kiffin coaching in a playoff game when everyone knows he is legitimately and officially going to Florida. How are the OM people gonna cheer that on? Talk about bittersweet.
I could see it. Coaches have coached in bowl games before when they knew they were going somewhere else and it was announced that they were leaving.
Kiffin tried to do that at Alabama but Saban essentially made him leave because he was focusing too much on Florida Atlantic.
Every time Kiffin leaves somewhere it is awkward so who knows how it will go down?
bulldawg28
11-14-2025, 09:14 PM
If Kiffin is leaving for Florida he'd be a nut to leave until after the season ends. There's no guarantee he'll ever get back to this point if Ole Miss is a playoff team.
1eyedog
11-14-2025, 09:24 PM
Because she's an acct professor at OM, got her law degree from OM, her family lives in Cleveland, and this is the closest they have been to them since Pete was at Delta St.
She's made it very clear, he can go wherever he wants but she is staying in Oxford. And if he wants to stay married, he will stay in Oxford.
del
TrapGame
11-15-2025, 10:39 AM
Per Pete Thamel
Franklin and Virginia Tech are in the early stages of talks.
Also Florida podcasters are down right giddy right now. Boosters are telling people they have Kiffin.
AlSwearengen
11-15-2025, 03:13 PM
Per Pete Thamel
Franklin and Virginia Tech are in the early stages of talks.
Also Florida podcasters are down right giddy right now. Boosters are telling people they have Kiffin.
Concerning the Florida part of your post; this is how you screw up a deal.
DownwardDawg
11-15-2025, 03:16 PM
Concerning the Florida part of your post; this is how you screw up a deal.
100%
The Federalist Engineer
11-16-2025, 10:38 PM
So, South Carolina fans want Shane Beamer gone?
Just smoke? Or is that another open SEC job this off season?
CadaverDawg
11-16-2025, 10:48 PM
So, South Carolina fans want Shane Beamer gone?
Just smoke? Or is that another open SEC job this off season?
Blowing a 30-3 halftime lead is tough. Not sure how one comes back from that.
Beamer is so unlikable. Cant stand that guy
The Federalist Engineer
11-17-2025, 12:05 AM
Blowing a 30-3 halftime lead is tough. Not sure how one comes back from that.
Beamer is so unlikable. Cant stand that guy
Seems like there are only a few schools with the coach they like and the coach is not potentially leaving.
Kirby Smart, DeBoer and Elko. 3 dudes out of 16. Vandy, Mizzou, and Ole Miss have people wanting their coach.
Venables is loved? At least this week, yes.
Todd4State
11-17-2025, 12:07 AM
Blowing a 30-3 halftime lead is tough. Not sure how one comes back from that.
Beamer is so unlikable. Cant stand that guy
If they fired him it wouldn't shock me. Might come down to whether he beats Clemson or not.
The Federalist Engineer
11-17-2025, 01:11 AM
If they fired him it wouldn't shock me. Might come down to whether he beats Clemson or not.
Loser of Clemson v SCarolina gets a Pink Slip.
Matt3467
11-17-2025, 09:30 AM
Blowing a 30-3 halftime lead is tough. Not sure how one comes back from that.
Beamer is so unlikable. Cant stand that guy
I don't know which is worse. Losing after leading 30-3 at the half or giving up 24 points in the 4th quarter to lose.
Santiago
11-17-2025, 09:42 AM
I don't know which is worse. Losing after leading 30-3 at the half or giving up 24 points in the 4th quarter to lose.
Add into that, at halftime and first half interview on the field , his bragging that they beat A&M last year. Then running into the tunnel with his arms pumping to his fans.
He is a glorified cheerleader.
StarkVegasSteve
11-17-2025, 09:49 AM
Loser of Clemson v SCarolina gets a Pink Slip.
If they fire Shane, I want him on our staff the next day as STC and AHC.
TrapGame
11-17-2025, 09:53 AM
If they fire Shane, I want him on our staff the next day as STC and AHC.
Concur. And if Lane leaves we should go after Joe Judge too.
StarkVegasSteve
11-17-2025, 10:10 AM
Concur. And if Lane leaves we should go after Joe Judge too.
We'd have to hope we could pull him from OM. He's very happy in Oxford.
Santiago
11-17-2025, 10:17 AM
We'd have to hope we could pull him from OM. He's very happy in Oxford.
at least though it would not be "his wife is not happy in Starkville" .
It would be worth a good bump in pay just for alumni energy.
Coursesuper
11-17-2025, 10:18 AM
If they fire Shane, I want him on our staff the next day as STC and AHC.
That would be a phenomenal move on our part.
StarkVegasSteve
11-17-2025, 10:21 AM
at least though it would not be "his wife is not happy in Starkville" .
It would be worth a good bump in pay just for alumni energy.
It's not that she wouldn't be happy here. But they're very happy in Oxford. It's going to be tough to pull Joe if OM wants him back in a coaching capacity.
Santiago
11-17-2025, 10:24 AM
It's not that she wouldn't be happy here. But they're very happy in Oxford. It's going to be tough to pull Joe if OM wants him back in a coaching capacity.
Understood and I would assume some longer term guarantee in stability.
TrapGame
11-17-2025, 03:18 PM
What if Lane is waiting on Texas to open up? Sexton represents Sark. Could LSU and Florida fighting over Kiffin be a smokescreen?
bulldawg28
11-17-2025, 03:22 PM
It's not that she wouldn't be happy here. But they're very happy in Oxford. It's going to be tough to pull Joe if OM wants him back in a coaching capacity.
It has nothing to do with his wife. I played with Joe and his wife is a MSU graduate. Joe is from PA and met his wife in Starkville. If Joe was an assistant coach anywhere in college and he was offered the State job he'd take it. Stop making up stuff.
StarkVegasSteve
11-17-2025, 03:26 PM
It has nothing to do with his wife. I played with Joe and his wife is a MSU graduate. Joe is from PA and met his wife in Starkville. If Joe was an assistant coach anywhere in college and he was offered the State job he'd take it. Stop making up stuff.
I don't know where I made stuff up. Joe and his wife are happy in Oxford. I literally actually said it's not that they wouldn't be happy here. But to think he's going to leave Oxford and a 6 figure salary to come here and make 40K is also not believable. Joe may also go with Lane. There's that possibility too. Or.....what if he's the interim and they win a game in the playoffs? They may hire him to be the full time HC. There's a lot of factors other than just we're going to offer him and he's going to jump at it. If that was the case he would've taken the job in 2020.
StarkVegasSteve
11-17-2025, 03:28 PM
What if Lane is waiting on Texas to open up? Sexton represents Sark. Could LSU and Florida fighting over Kiffin be a smokescreen?
There's no smokescreen. Some members of his family were in Gainesville yesterday and Baton Rouge today. They are not doing this for optics or smokescreens. Those are the two jobs that are open that he's interested in and so he's doing his due diligence on both.
If/When Texas comes open, and pending he hasn't accepted another job, I am sure he will try to throw his hat into the fray there.
TrapGame
11-17-2025, 03:32 PM
There's no smokescreen. Some members of his family were in Gainesville yesterday and Baton Rouge today. They are not doing this for optics or smokescreens. Those are the two jobs that are open that he's interested in and so he's doing his due diligence on both.
If/When Texas comes open, and pending he hasn't accepted another job, I am sure he will try to throw his hat into the fray there.
Damn. He had family members in BR and GV? Wow. He is 100% leaving this time. There were a couple of LSU podcasters saying they had made big strides with Kiffin over the last week but I thought they were bullshitting.
Coursesuper
11-17-2025, 03:32 PM
There's no smokescreen. Some members of his family were in Gainesville yesterday and Baton Rouge today. They are not doing this for optics or smokescreens. Those are the two jobs that are open that he's interested in and so he's doing his due diligence on both.
If/When Texas comes open, and pending he hasn't accepted another job, I am sure he will try to throw his hat into the fray there.
The CCL area is really nice. Plus Jim Bernhard just passed away Lane and family can move into those mansions.
StarkVegasSteve
11-17-2025, 03:33 PM
Damn. He had family members in BR and GV? Wow. He is 100% leaving this time. There were a couple of LSU podcasters saying they had made big strides with Kiffin over the last week but I thought they were bullshitting.
I mean it's not rumor either. It's been confirmed by Florida, LSU, and OM media people. Members of his family, presumably Layla and probably Chris Kiffin's wife, flew to Gainesville yesterday and Baton Rouge today. LSU is most definitely in it. They put a FAT contract on the table to CAA and Sexton late last week.
StarkVegasSteve
11-17-2025, 03:41 PM
I will just say this in regards to Lane. Accd to someone very in the know with Florida, Lane will take that job after the Egg Bowl and will not coach OM in the playoffs.
Now, I have been told this morning that LSU is much more in the pursuit than they originally thought.
However, I trust my Florida sources on this one a little bit more.
Santiago
11-17-2025, 03:47 PM
That Landman money is different
bulldawg28
11-17-2025, 03:48 PM
I don't know where I made stuff up. Joe and his wife are happy in Oxford. I literally actually said it's not that they wouldn't be happy here. But to think he's going to leave Oxford and a 6 figure salary to come here and make 40K is also not believable. Joe may also go with Lane. There's that possibility too. Or.....what if he's the interim and they win a game in the playoffs? They may hire him to be the full time HC. There's a lot of factors other than just we're going to offer him and he's going to jump at it. If that was the case he would've taken the job in 2020.
He wasn't offered the job in 2020. Bro, chill out.
Op4isabitch
11-17-2025, 03:48 PM
It has nothing to do with his wife. I played with Joe and his wife is a MSU graduate. Joe is from PA and met his wife in Starkville. If Joe was an assistant coach anywhere in college and he was offered the State job he'd take it. Stop making up stuff.
Fred?
Santiago
11-17-2025, 03:50 PM
Just to me Joe would be the guy our base rallies around also.
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