Coaching Rumors Mega-Thread

[TrapGame]

I will just say this in regards to Lane. Accd to someone very in the know with Florida, Lane will take that job after the Egg Bowl and will not coach OM in the playoffs.

Now, I have been told this morning that LSU is much more in the pursuit than they originally thought.

However, I trust my Florida sources on this one a little bit more.

We need to beat that ass then.

[StarkVegasSteve]

He wasn't offered the job in 2020. Bro, chill out.

Yea.....he was. We literally had him hired and the Giants swooped in at the last second because Rhule took the Panthers job.

So unless Steve Robertson, David Murray, Paul Jones, Robbie Faulk, Charlie Winfield, and everyone else who said we offered him is wrong.....I think you may be mistaken.

[bulldawg28]

Yea.....he was. We literally had him hired and the Giants swooped in at the last second because Rhule took the Panthers job.

So unless Steve Robertson, David Murray, Paul Jones, Robbie Faulk, Charlie Winfield, and everyone else who said we offered him is wrong.....I think you may be mistaken.

I know him personally. I don't need 3rd party information.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I know him personally. I don't need 3rd party information.

I'm not saying he signed a contract with us, or even an MOU. But he was offered it. And all signs on our end pointed to him taking it. So much so that we started getting graphics ready and setting up for a press conference. Now maybe it was the ultimate fake out and he was using us for leverage, but we damn sure thought he was going to take it. I mean I know one person very well that was told to be ready to come to Starkville to be on staff. So you may know him personally, but I've seen the graphics and talked to someone who was going to be on staff. If you know Joe, then you should the person that was called to be on staff.

[BeardoMSU]

James Franklin to VaTech.

First Sexton domino has fallen.

[TrapGame]

Hold up!

Is that the official OM X account calling out Lane for his family going to BR and GV?!!!

Oh, it is about to get very awkward.

[Op4isabitch]

Hold up!

Is that the official OM X account calling out Lane for his family going to BR and GV?!!!

Oh, it is about to get very awkward.

Yes, yes it is. The real tree guy is calling Lane out, now the official OM account. Fans turning on Lane quicker than Hadad turned on Jenny Craig.

It’s a meltdown in Rebel land.

[bulldawg28]

I'm not saying he signed a contract with us, or even an MOU. But he was offered it. And all signs on our end pointed to him taking it. So much so that we started getting graphics ready and setting up for a press conference. Now maybe it was the ultimate fake out and he was using us for leverage, but we damn sure thought he was going to take it. I mean I know one person very well that was told to be ready to come to Starkville to be on staff. So you may know him personally, but I've seen the graphics and talked to someone who was going to be on staff. If you know Joe, then you should the person that was called to be on staff.


I'm not trying to stop your insights . Keep providing your information. My connection is football ONLY once they land in Starkville I can find out easily what's going on. I have my connections from players, ex players and administrators. Anyways, keep speaking your insights.

[Santiago]

That Borkey radio show today might be interesting.

Also - they are 10-1 and their coach's family is flying to other schools during the season. This is one of the best coaching carousels in history. Thank you, Lane Train.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I'm not trying to stop your insights . Keep providing your information. My connection is football ONLY once they land in Starkville I can find out easily what's going on. I have my connections from players, ex players and administrators. Anyways, keep speaking your insights.

I appreciate yours as well. Cause everything I've ever been told was that he was extremely close to accepting and had offer in hand. So very interesting to hear we never officially presented one.

[parabrave]

Just curious how many starters does Ole Miss lose after this year?

After what they lost last year it doesn't matter. LK and his staff can go find talent, evaluate the talent correctly and get them. Unlike someone we know, Hey we lucked out with BT and Evans.

[Brobi-wan]

Yes, yes it is. The real tree guy is calling Lane out, now the official OM account. Fans turning on Lane quicker than Hadad turned on Jenny Craig.

It?s a meltdown in Rebel land.

I can?t seem to find these. Anyone got a link?

[TrapGame]

How is this for a rumor.

Supposedly yesterday Keith Carter told Lane that he needed to make up his mind now. He either signs his extension and stays the coach or he moves on. Lane didn?t sign the extension.

There actually may be something to him not coaching the Egg Bowl.

[BeardoMSU]

How is this for a rumor.

Supposedly yesterday Keith Carter told Lane that he needed to make up his mind now. He either signs his extension and stays the coach or he moves on. Lane didn?t sign the extension.

There actually may be something to him not coaching the Egg Bowl.

/shrug_emoji

[CowtownDawg]

Hey, I know I basically never post. Hell, most of you probably won't even recognize my user name. I live in Fort Worth and normally have NO connections.

However, this time I MIGHT. My son is a junior at LSU (family disappointment, but beside the point right now). Per what he is hearing and texting to me; Lane's son has enrolled in the on campus HS at LSU as of today with an NIL deal. Lane to LSU will be announced in next 48 hrs. $13.5M/yr. Baker & def staff to stay on at LSU. Lane would NOT coach in the EB or playoffs.

No idea how true any of this is, so y'all can excoriate me mercilessly if none of this turns out to be true. Just thought I would pass it along.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Hey, I know I basically never post. Hell, most of you probably won't even recognize my user name. I live in Fort Worth and normally have NO connections.

However, this time I MIGHT. My son is a junior at LSU (family disappointment, but beside the point right now). Per what he is hearing and texting to me; Lane's son has enrolled in the on campus HS at LSU as of today with an NIL deal. Lane to LSU will be announced in next 48 hrs. $13.5M/yr. Baker & def staff to stay on at LSU. Lane would NOT coach in the EB or playoffs.

No idea how true any of this is, so y'all can excoriate me mercilessly if none of this turns out to be true. Just thought I would pass it along.

I'm not trying poopoo the source here, but I doubt that one happens. At least in the next 48 hrs. That would be a hell of a pull to only have to pay 13.5 though. Also, it would be kind of hard for Knox to QB Oxford HS in the playoffs if he was enrolled at University Lab. It's actually illegal and Oxford would have to forfeit any remaining playoff games.

[Santiago]

Hey, I know I basically never post. Hell, most of you probably won't even recognize my user name. I live in Fort Worth and normally have NO connections.

However, this time I MIGHT. My son is a junior at LSU (family disappointment, but beside the point right now). Per what he is hearing and texting to me; Lane's son has enrolled in the on campus HS at LSU as of today with an NIL deal. Lane to LSU will be announced in next 48 hrs. $13.5M/yr. Baker & def staff to stay on at LSU. Lane would NOT coach in the EB or playoffs.

No idea how true any of this is, so y'all can excoriate me mercilessly if none of this turns out to be true. Just thought I would pass it along.

Does Weiss Jr. , go with Lane?
Also, does Carter draw the line for all assistant coaches that if you are going with Lane, go before the egg bowl?

[chef dixon]

No way this can last 2 weeks til after the egg bowl without a resolution.

Also this is the ultimate kick to the nuts of Ole Miss fans who think Oxford is the greatest thing on earth. A coach literally wanting to leave despite playing in the playoffs. All I can do is laugh my ass off at that reality check

[StarkVegasSteve]

Does Weiss Jr. , go with Lane?
Also, does Carter draw the line for all assistant coaches that if you are going with Lane, go before the egg bowl?

Well the assts would all have to resign because they can't work for two state schools at the same time. So IF he was taking it in 48 hours and taking them with him then YES they would not be able to coach the bowl game.

[Coursesuper]

I'm not trying poopoo the source here, but I doubt that one happens. At least in the next 48 hrs. That would be a hell of a pull to only have to pay 13.5 though. Also, it would be kind of hard for Knox to QB Oxford HS in the playoffs if he was enrolled at University Lab. It's actually illegal and Oxford would have to forfeit any remaining playoff games.

He would end up at Catholic way before ULab. But the point is valid.

[CowtownDawg]

I'm not trying poopoo the source here, but I doubt that one happens. At least in the next 48 hrs. That would be a hell of a pull to only have to pay 13.5 though. Also, it would be kind of hard for Knox to QB Oxford HS in the playoffs if he was enrolled at University Lab. It's actually illegal and Oxford would have to forfeit any remaining playoff games.

No worries, I have a thick skin. Son said he is hearing that Knox will enroll at UL after Thanksgiving. I have no idea what the MS HS playoff schedule looks like. I agree, $13.5 seemed a little "light" to me. And 48 hours seemed pretty quick to me as well, but w/ a bye week, it seems at least slightly plausible. Guess we'll see. It may all be just wishful thinking by LSU faithful, especially on the time line. Now, I could see Knox enrolling at UL for next semester - wouldn't be hard for Layla & whomever else to stay behind in Oxford until playoffs are completed (although Oxford High folks may not want Knox around if daddy leaves for their "real" rival.

[StarkVegasSteve]

He would end up at Catholic way before ULab. But the point is valid.

Lab is the one on campus so that's why I mentioned it.

[Santiago]

Well the assts would all have to resign because they can't work for two state schools at the same time. So IF he was taking it in 48 hours and taking them with him then YES they would not be able to coach the bowl game.

What if Lane delays a week naming his staff, which gives ole miss their saving face to keep those assistants for the BFTGE

[TrapGame]

Hey, I know I basically never post. Hell, most of you probably won't even recognize my user name. I live in Fort Worth and normally have NO connections.

However, this time I MIGHT. My son is a junior at LSU (family disappointment, but beside the point right now). Per what he is hearing and texting to me; Lane's son has enrolled in the on campus HS at LSU as of today with an NIL deal. Lane to LSU will be announced in next 48 hrs. $13.5M/yr. Baker & def staff to stay on at LSU. Lane would NOT coach in the EB or playoffs.

No idea how true any of this is, so y'all can excoriate me mercilessly if none of this turns out to be true. Just thought I would pass it along.

TigerDroppings is going ape shit over this right now. A lot of folks are backing it up saying they have AD sources and it?s true.

This is the craziest shit and I?m here for it.

[CowtownDawg]

He would end up at Catholic way before ULab. But the point is valid.

Supposedly, ULab is offering the best NIL deal, better than other BR area High Schools. Again, no idea - my son is a student, so who knows the source or validity of the rumors. Just passing along info (since I never have any, even if they are just wild rumors.)

[StarkVegasSteve]

No worries, I have a thick skin. Son said he is hearing that Knox will enroll at UL after Thanksgiving. I have no idea what the MS HS playoff schedule looks like. I agree, $13.5 seemed a little "light" to me. And 48 hours seemed pretty quick to me as well, but w/ a bye week, it seems at least slightly plausible. Guess we'll see. It may all be just wishful thinking by LSU faithful, especially on the time line. Now, I could see Knox enrolling at UL for next semester - wouldn't be hard for Layla & whomever else to stay behind in Oxford until playoffs are completed (although Oxford High folks may not want Knox around if daddy leaves for their "real" rival.

So Knox is possibly going to lead them all the way to the State Championship and then 7 days before the State Championship he's going to leave? Again, I'm not trying poopoo your source but that just seems very unlikely. Could it happen? Yes. Will it? I highly doubt it.

[Coursesuper]

Supposedly, ULab is offering the best NIL deal, better than other BR area High Schools. Again, no idea - my son is a student, so who knows the source or validity of the rumors. Just passing along info (since I never have any, even if they are just wild rumors.)

Catholic is paying kids to play 17ing golf. Imagine what they are doing for football.

[TrapGame]

https://x.com/slmandel/status/1990540717467533443?s=20

This is getting good.

[Coursesuper]

Lab is the one on campus so that's why I mentioned it.

All is good, just know BR.

[CowtownDawg]

So Knox is possibly going to lead them all the way to the State Championship and then 7 days before the State Championship he's going to leave? Again, I'm not trying poopoo your source but that just seems very unlikely. Could it happen? Yes. Will it? I highly doubt it.

Which is why I said maybe Layla & Knox stay behind til the playoffs are over. I have no real idea. And you can poo poo the source all you want. I couldn't care less - like I said, my source is my son that is a Junior at that God-forsaken school. Have no idea exactly where he is getting the infor or the validity of it. Just having some fun getting to contribute to the rumor mill for once since I never have info.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Which is why I said maybe Layla & Knox stay behind til the playoffs are over. I have no real idea. And you can poo poo the source all you want. I couldn't care less - like I said, my source is my son that is a Junior at that God-forsaken school. Have no idea exactly where he is getting the infor or the validity of it. Just having some fun getting to contribute to the rumor mill for once since I never have info.

I could see them staying. I don't see this happening in the next 48 hours though. But hey, the transfer portal and early signing day has royally screwed the schedule to the point of where something like this is even plausible.

I also don't think he's going to make any decision before first seeing what OM's top offer is and what Florida's offer is. I mean CAA and Sexton would be negotiating against themselves if that was the case.

[Maroon Glasses]

Has anyone checked to see if Bert Star is over @ Tiger Droppings??

[CowtownDawg]

I could see them staying. I don't see this happening in the next 48 hours though. But hey, the transfer portal and early signing day has royally screwed the schedule to the point of where something like this is even plausible.

I also don't think he's going to make any decision before first seeing what OM's top offer is and what Florida's offer is. I mean CAA and Sexton would be negotiating against themselves if that was the case.

Should be interesting if the Kiffin fam was really in Gainesville this weekend as well. Maybe it turns into an all out bidding war. The $13.5 number still makes me doubt the LSU story. I have to think UF would beat that number. Maybe the LSU NIL number is good enough that Lane realizes the contract $ number isn't as important as being at a school where two coaches who really weren't that great won NCs and he is the only P4 school in a talent rich state that also can pull talent pretty easily out of Fla, TX, AL, & MS, plus has enough national reach as well to get great talent. On top of that, he can easily show portal players a history of success.

[Maroon Glasses]

Which is why I said maybe Layla & Knox stay behind til the playoffs are over. I have no real idea. And you can poo poo the source all you want. I couldn't care less - like I said, my source is my son that is a Junior at that God-forsaken school. Have no idea exactly where he is getting the infor or the validity of it. Just having some fun getting to contribute to the rumor mill for once since I never have info.

Keep them coming man! We all love a good rumor. Especially when it involves those other guys. Life ain't that serious.. it's okay to have some fun

[StarkVegasSteve]

Should be interesting if the Kiffin fam was really in Gainesville this weekend as well. Maybe it turns into an all out bidding war. The $13.5 number still makes me doubt the LSU story. I have to think UF would beat that number. Maybe the LSU NIL number is good enough that Lane realizes the contract $ number isn't as important as being at a school where two coaches who really weren't that great won NCs and he is the only P4 school in a talent rich state that also can pull talent pretty easily out of Fla, TX, AL, & MS, plus has enough national reach as well to get great talent. On top of that, he can easily show portal players a history of success.

Well Cowtown.......you may be right. I will just leave at that for right now. It may not be 48 hours, but 72 is possible. There are national reporters currently being dispatched to Oxford. If that tells folks how real this thing is.

[BeardoMSU]

Fwiw, Parham on the OM247 board is saying his national sources are all saying LK to LSU is happening/done.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Fwiw, Parham on the OM247 board is saying his national sources are all saying LK to LSU is happening/done.

Yep. He's saying all this is coming to a head before they even get into Egg Bowl prep.

[CowtownDawg]

Well Cowtown.......you may be right. I will just leave at that for right now. It may not be 48 hours, but 72 is possible. There are national reporters currently being dispatched to Oxford. If that tells folks how real this thing is.

Ha, I would honestly love it if the one time I brought rumor info to the board, it turned out to be right. I tend to doubt the 48 hrs as well, but sometime this week doesn't seem too far-fetched to me since it is a bye-week for OM and LSU will certainly want him in place for the portal.

[TrapGame]

Fwiw, Parham on the OM247 board is saying his national sources are all saying LK to LSU is happening/done.

So, I guess the Egg Bowl part is true too? Wow.

[BeardoMSU]

So, I guess the Egg Bowl part is true too? Wow.

Certainly seems to be rapidly moving in that direction....almost like a train....a...LANETRAIN...

[StarkVegasSteve]

Ha, I would honestly love it if the one time I brought rumor info to the board, it turned out to be right. I tend to doubt the 48 hrs as well, but sometime this week doesn't seem too far-fetched to me since it is a bye-week for OM and LSU will certainly want him in place for the portal.

I mean OM has given him an ultimatum that they want an answer by the Egg Bowl. Presumably before. So the thought process I would think from Lane's side is that if we're not going to sign an extension then we're not getting into game prep. You would have to think game prep will start either Friday or Saturday for them. So I guess they have basically a little over 96 hours to decide which way this thing goes. I do think the longer they go in the week the higher the possibility he stays at OM

[Mjoelner34]

Fwiw, Parham on the OM247 board is saying his national sources are all saying LK to LSU is happening/done.

https://media.tenor.com/-s09vbD_sFMAAAAM/flounder-animal-house.gif

[Bothrops]

Certainly seems to be rapidly moving in that direction....almost like a train....a...LANETRAIN...

Why would he want to go to LSU though? Why would he want to win a national championship?

[Maroon Glasses]

I'm posting this just for conversation and maybe a little controversy....

2023. Undefeated Florida State left out of the college football playoffs due to starting QB getting injured.

2025- 1 loss Ole Miss left out of college football playoffs due to HC Lane Kiffin vacating program.

How hilarious would that be?

[Dawgface]

Has anyone checked to see if Bert Star is over @ Tiger Droppings??

Nothing is official until Bert confirms.

[Brobi-wan]

This is so awesome

[38843dawg]

Fwiw, Parham on the OM247 board is saying his national sources are all saying LK to LSU is happening/done.

Not that it matters, but that update actually came from Neal. He added to Parham?s original post. Which actually may be better because he is more connected nationally, while Parham is more connected within the university.

[msstate7]

I'm posting this just for conversation and maybe a little controversy....

2023. Undefeated Florida State left out of the college football playoffs due to starting QB getting injured.

2025- 1 loss Ole Miss left out of college football playoffs due to HC Lane Kiffin vacating program.

How hilarious would that be?

Let's make sure of it. This circus is giving me much more hope than it should.

[BeardoMSU]

Not that it matters, but that update actually came from Neal. He added to Parham?s original post. Which actually may be better because he is more connected nationally, while Parham is more connected within the university.

Ah, thanks for the correction and great point, obv.

[Dawgology]

Let's make sure of it. This circus is giving me much more hope than it should.

Don't get too jovial. If Ole Miss is good at anything, it's mind games. This is probably nothing more than a Flipmas thing where they put out all kinds of info that Lane is going to LSU, then he signs the contract extension/new deal, and they start crowing how they "beat LSU" with a last-second deal to keep LK. It's actually not a crazy idea, and they would totally do it. They are masters of marketing. State could take a few lessons from them.

[Activated Alpha]

Haven't seen this much excitement on the website since Coffee-gate

[BeardoMSU]

Haven't seen this much excitement on the website since Coffee-gate

Ha!

[Mjoelner34]

Don't get too jovial. If Ole Miss is good at anything, it's mind games. This is probably nothing more than a Flipmas thing where they put out all kinds of info that Lane is going to LSU, then he signs the contract extension/new deal, and they start crowing how they "beat LSU" with a last-second deal to keep LK. It's actually not a crazy idea, and they would totally do it. They are masters of marketing. State could take a few lessons from them.

...and all would be forgiven with the fanboys that are currently pissed off because he would say its the most beautiful campus in America as he was signing his extension. That would make his trolling and delay in signing worth it to them.

Something just doesn't seem right. He is playing his cards close to the vest yet the family is all over the place out in the open? If he were truly doing something on the down-low, tracking university jets that pick up the family wouldn't be the way to go. I say 80/20 he stays and it's all about winning the press conference like Dawgology said.

[Tripp McNeely]

Don't get too jovial. If Ole Miss is good at anything, it's mind games. This is probably nothing more than a Flipmas thing where they put out all kinds of info that Lane is going to LSU, then he signs the contract extension/new deal, and they start crowing how they "beat LSU" with a last-second deal to keep LK. It's actually not a crazy idea, and they would totally do it. They are masters of marketing. State could take a few lessons from them.

Haha, you don't make your kids tour other schools and involve your family like he is...as a troll!

[TrapGame]

Don't get too jovial. If Ole Miss is good at anything, it's mind games. This is probably nothing more than a Flipmas thing where they put out all kinds of info that Lane is going to LSU, then he signs the contract extension/new deal, and they start crowing how they "beat LSU" with a last-second deal to keep LK. It's actually not a crazy idea, and they would totally do it. They are masters of marketing. State could take a few lessons from them.

This was brought up on Jake Wimberly?s show this afternoon with his guest. His guest was a nation wide sports guy who said if this just a massive troll job by Kiffin it will be the last time a major college football program will take him seriously as a candidate.

This is no troll job.

[Mjoelner34]

This was brought up on Jake Wimberly?s show this afternoon with his guest. His guest was a nation wide sports guy who said if this just a massive troll job by Kiffin it will be the last time a major college football program will take him seriously as a candidate.

This is no troll job.

I've never wanted to be so wrong in my life!

[Maverick91]

I'm posting this just for conversation and maybe a little controversy....

2023. Undefeated Florida State left out of the college football playoffs due to starting QB getting injured.

2025- 1 loss Ole Miss left out of college football playoffs due to HC Lane Kiffin vacating program.

How hilarious would that be?

This line of thinking should honestly be honored. If you are going to say a QB is worth notching you down a few pegs then losing the head coach should as well.

[Dawgology]

This was brought up on Jake Wimberly?s show this afternoon with his guest. His guest was a nation wide sports guy who said if this just a massive troll job by Kiffin it will be the last time a major college football program will take him seriously as a candidate.

This is no troll job.

Unless he just plans on staying there and retiring. I’m just saying don’t get your hopes up. We need to invest in beating them and getting to 8 wins a season and not just hope they lose a coach to “bring them down to our level”. I want to win.

[Turfdawg67]

This was brought up on Jake Wimberly?s show this afternoon with his guest. His guest was a nation wide sports guy who said if this just a massive troll job by Kiffin it will be the last time a major college football program will take him seriously as a candidate.

This is no troll job.

If it’s a troll job, with the jobs available, then he doesn’t care about future offers. He’s got things rolling, they love him and he’s set for life. And… would have to do a Houston Nutt for 2-3 years before they even considered firing him.

[TrapGame]

Unless he just plans on staying there and retiring. I’m just saying don’t get your hopes up. We need to invest in beating them and getting to 8 wins a season and not just hope they lose a coach to “bring them down to our level”. I want to win.

Did you not see his press conference after the Florida game? He is not coaching the rest of his life there. I want to beat their asses and I want him gone too. It hurts them more than it does us.

[Cowbeller]

I'm posting this just for conversation and maybe a little controversy....

2023. Undefeated Florida State left out of the college football playoffs due to starting QB getting injured.

2025- 1 loss Ole Miss left out of college football playoffs due to HC Lane Kiffin vacating program.

How hilarious would that be?

This would make my decade.

If he leaves and an ole piss fan claims LSU as their real rival I wont argue anymore.

[Todd4State]

This was brought up on Jake Wimberly?s show this afternoon with his guest. His guest was a nation wide sports guy who said if this just a massive troll job by Kiffin it will be the last time a major college football program will take him seriously as a candidate.

This is no troll job.

Yeah. You don't handle your head coach like he's some wide receiver recruit from Tupelo.

[Maroon Glasses]

This would make my decade.

If he leaves and an ole piss fan claims LSU as their real rival I wont argue anymore.

Same man. The meltdown would be epic. I'm sure they would come up with something to tell themselves and everyone else that they pushed him out the door to get their next HC. And they wanted him to go to LSU cause they knew his career already peaked.

[TrapGame]

Same man. The meltdown would be epic. I'm sure they would come up with something to tell themselves and everyone else that they pushed him out the door to get their next HC. And they wanted him to go to LSU cause they knew his career already peaked.

I expect to hear, "Well, Lane was really holding us back."

[bulldawg28]

You can't put anything past Lane. He could be trolling everyone.

[EdwardDrayton]

You can't put anything past Lane. He could be trolling everyone.

Nobody's ever accused him of being the brightest crayon in the box but he's not a complete moron.

[CaptainObvious]

Heavy smoke billowing up in Austin! Stay tuned for more buffoonery.

[bulldawg28]

Nobody's ever accused him of being the brightest crayon in the box but he's not a complete moron.

He's made enough money to not worry about public opinion.

[BeardoMSU]

Heavy smoke billowing up in Austin! Stay tuned for more buffoonery.

This won't wait for that...

[EdwardDrayton]

He's made enough money to not worry about public opinion.

It's not about public opinion.

Let's play this out. RebelShart Nation pimps their grandmothers in the Grove to raise enough money to make Kitten think about it. IF he takes the money, he has to know the expectation becomes nothing short of a NC. Even Lame knows he has a better chance to win a natty at LSU or Florida for the same money. It would be incredible if he stays.

[TrapGame]

He's made enough money to not worry about public opinion.

So Layla, Knox, Keith Carter and Sexton are all in on the troll job?

Lane is a huge prick but he isn?t an idiot.

[bulldawg28]

So Layla, Knox, Keith Carter and Sexton are all in on the troll job?

Lane is a huge prick but he isn?t an idiot.

I know it sounds crazy but I don't put anything past Kiffin. He trolled the entire time the last cycle and still stayed at Ole Miss.

[Brobi-wan]

I know it sounds crazy but I don't put anything past Kiffin. He trolled the entire time the last cycle and still stayed at Ole Miss.

I don’t remember him being this way last year. The only thing I think was remotely similar is Auburn. Even that wasn’t near what’s going on here

[AlSwearengen]

Logic says he is leaving but this is olemiss and Layne Kiffin we are talking about; both are attention whores with histories of erratic behavior. Olemiss would go to any lengths to be mentioned in the same company with bama, texas, lsu, etc.

[TrapGame]

I know it sounds crazy but I don't put anything past Kiffin. He trolled the entire time the last cycle and still stayed at Ole Miss.

If this is a massive troll job Lane has some serious mental issues. There are some powerful people in all three camps that will not find this funny.

[Dawgology]

Logic says he is leaving but this is olemiss and Layne Kiffin we are talking about; both are attention whores with histories of erratic behavior. Olemiss would go to any lengths to be mentioned in the same company with bama, texas, lsu, etc.

Exactly. I put nothing past those weirdos. They verge on Texas A&M level cult status

[msstate7]

If this is a massive troll job Lane has some serious mental issues. There are some powerful people in all three camps that will not find this funny.

This isn't a troll job. You don't piss off your fanbase and burn 2 bridges for the hell of it. I take it as lane has told him family he's leaving, but he will let them choose the spot.

[SPMT]

I don?t see Lane trolling here. It looks to me like he is doing his due diligence and considering his family in his career.

It?s the crazy ass fans stalking airports and airplane tail numbers. He would be a fool not to listen to other offers or consider his family. Why would he not listen to offers from universities with more potential for success than OM, at least on paper. They?ve been good to him, but everyone knows they will turn on him quickly if he has a 5-7 or 6-6 year.

Do you guys not listen to other offers from potential employers?

What is he supposed to do?

[StarkVegasSteve]

If this is a massive troll job Lane has some serious mental issues. There are some powerful people in all three camps that will not find this funny.

If this is some troll job then there is a portion of the OM fanbase that will never be bought in again. He also will have completely torpedoed ever getting a P4 job again. Like this would be his last stop and when it goes bad, and it will, he will nowhere to turn. He will be hated by legitimately everyone in college football. And honestly, after this crap, he is hated by everyone.

[StarkVegasSteve]

This isn't a troll job. You don't piss off your fanbase and burn 2 bridges for the hell of it. I take it as lane has told him family he's leaving, but he will let them choose the spot.

I think this is probably what is going on. I think his advisors are telling him LSU but I think he holds that Florida job in extremely high regard personally. So I think he has his family doing their due diligence at both places. I think if all things are equal he would pick Florida.

[basedog]

Who knows but if his family chooses it will be Florida with all of his wife's connection. I think the Lsu trip is more of a troll to get as much money available which is crazy right now.

[bulldawg28]

If this is a massive troll job Lane has some serious mental issues. There are some powerful people in all three camps that will not find this funny.

What about Lane says he's mentally stable? Lol, I love the dude he's hilarious but his history, comments, and trolling say he's capable to say and do anything. Joey Freshwater is still alive and well! If the ultimatum by Ole Miss is legit it tells you they don't know what he's capable of doing. You don't give that type of order to a grown man and expect no repercussions. They're even trying to keep him level headed.

[TrapGame]

Lane just had a documentary about how more mature he is now and how he has settled down.
That was to show potential employers he is serious.

This is not a troll job. He will pick LSU or Florida by this weekend. He will not coach the Egg Bowl.

[bulldawg28]

Lane just had a documentary about how more mature he is now and how he has settled down.
That was to show potential employers he is serious.

This is not a troll job. He will pick LSU or Florida by this weekend. He will not coach the Egg Bowl.

Cool

[Jarius]

What about Lane says he's mentally stable? Lol, I love the dude he's hilarious but his history, comments, and trolling say he's capable to say and do anything. Joey Freshwater is still alive and well! If the ultimatum by Ole Miss is legit it tells you they don't know what he's capable of doing. You don't give that type of order to a grown man and expect no repercussions. They're even trying to keep him level headed.

Lane Kiffin isn't the one being immature here. The Ole Miss administrators are embarrassing the sh*t out of themselves. They aren't trying to keep him level headed. They are trying to bully him into signing a contract like he's not the hottest commodity in college football right now. This is like some dude that's a 6 trying to lock a 10 in the basement and force them to continue to date them. Ole Miss has gone bat sh*t crazy over this because they know he's leaving and there is no amount of anything they can offer to stop it. They don't want to (and won't) face the reality that is they are a bottom tier SEC job being propped up by an ELITE head coach and him leaving proves that.

[DownwardDawg]

I don?t see Lane trolling here. It looks to me like he is doing his due diligence and considering his family in his career.

It?s the crazy ass fans stalking airports and airplane tail numbers. He would be a fool not to listen to other offers or consider his family. Why would he not listen to offers from universities with more potential for success than OM, at least on paper. They?ve been good to him, but everyone knows they will turn on him quickly if he has a 5-7 or 6-6 year.

Do you guys not listen to other offers from potential employers?

What is he supposed to do?

Hell I'm close to retirement and just had another oil company contact me. Guess what? I listened.

[msstate7]

DeBoer to Penn state?

https://x.com/psu_dylan/status/1991198407759679709?s=46

[TrapGame]

DeBoer to Penn state?

https://x.com/psu_dylan/status/1991198407759679709?s=46

That would be crazy.

[Coursesuper]

That would be crazy.

Found out how crazy the Bammers are.

[msstate7]

That would be crazy.

Another kiffin suitor to enter the chat?

[Cowbeller]

Looks like Florida gave up on the lane train. Sumrall interviewing today

[1eyedog]

I said earlier this could be a huge om hat presentation where LK chooses the ditch over all the big suitors.......It’s looking more and more like that is the case.....Please coach Lebby.......PLEASE beat that ***......

[msstate7]

Looks like Florida gave up on the lane train. Sumrall interviewing today

Sumrall removed his name from consideration. That's usually what guys do when a hire is made

[StarkVegasSteve]

Looks like Florida gave up on the lane train. Sumrall interviewing today

Sumrall is holding off on making a decision as well right now. He wants to see what Lane does. Jon would have an inside track at the OM job if/when Lane leaves. He could pitch keeping Pete as well.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I said earlier this could be a huge om hat presentation where LK chooses the ditch over all the big suitors.......It’s looking more and more like that is the case.....Please coach Lebby.......PLEASE beat that ***......

It's not that. Lane wants to have his cake and eat it too. He wants to coach OM in the playoffs so he can have all the eyes on him on the biggest stage and then go to LSU.

Sexton and CAA want him to take LSU.

[BeardoMSU]

It's not that. Lane wants to have his cake and eat it too. He wants to coach OM in the playoffs so he can have all the eyes on him on the biggest stage and then go to LSU.

Sexton and CAA want him to take LSU.

This. All this 4D chess stuff is nonsense.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Sumrall removed his name from consideration. That's usually what guys do when a hire is made

I think this tells us a hire was made somewhere, but I don't think the hire is at Florida........

[StarkVegasSteve]

This. All this 4D chess stuff is nonsense.

Yea I have OM people, the homers of all homers, trying to tell me that Lane is doing this to raid both LSU and Florida's roster. I honestly am enjoying the mental gymnastics some of them are doing to justify the stuff Lane is doing.

I finally told one of them today that they sound like the guy who's girlfriend is openly cheating on him and he's denying it.

[Coursesuper]

This. All this 4D chess stuff is nonsense.

Yep, it?s not that complicated, and Lane holds all the cards.

[StarkVegasSteve]

So picture this........

Black Friday. We're up 2 scores with under 2 to play with the ball. 2 minute timeout.

Over the PA they play......Callin Baton Rouge.

The stadium would lose all semblance of it's shit

[Leroy Jenkins]

Over the PA they play......Callin Baton Rouge.

Someone make this happen. Or Tom Petty's "I wont back down" that they play at the end of the 3rd quarter of UF games.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Someone make this happen. Or Tom Petty's "I wont back down" that they play at UF games

He's going to LSU if he goes anywhere at this point. It would be incredible. I would be the most belligerent asshole in that stadium when it happened.

[Santiago]

So picture this........

Black Friday. We're up 2 scores with under 2 to play with the ball. 2 minute timeout.

Over the PA they play......Callin Baton Rouge.

The stadium would lose all semblance of it's shit

as long as we are not about to punt down the middle of the field ***

[msstate7]

He's going to LSU if he goes anywhere at this point. It would be incredible. I would be the most belligerent asshole in that stadium when it happened.

I'm ready to see if deboer to Penn st has any legs. It could be total chaos.

[Pancho]

He's going to LSU if he goes anywhere at this point. It would be incredible. I would be the most belligerent asshole in that stadium when it happened.

I'd do my part as well

[BeardoMSU]

He's going to LSU if he goes anywhere at this point. It would be incredible. I would be the most belligerent asshole in that stadium when it happened.

The perfect scenario is we beat OM, knocking them out of the playoffs, Lane leaves for LSU, and their roster and coaching staff bolts with him...the agony and rage in Oxford would be EPIC....it could only get better if someone found a way to collect and turn that essence into some type of narcotic inhaler or injection....Holy hell...

[Santiago]

I'm ready to see if deboer to Penn st has any legs. It could be total chaos.

Is that for real a possibility?

I need a wall with yarn connecting jobs like a crime detective.

[TrapGame]

I'm ready to see if deboer to Penn st has any legs. It could be total chaos.

Penn State has a better path to the playoffs than Alabama. And DB may not like the South.

I do know that if DB leaves Alabama it will be chaos in T- town.

[1bigdawg]

Yea I have OM people, the homers of all homers, trying to tell me that Lane is doing this to raid both LSU and Florida's roster. I honestly am enjoying the mental gymnastics some of them are doing to justify the stuff Lane is doing.

I finally told one of them today that they sound like the guy who's girlfriend is openly cheating on him and he's denying it.

The girlfriend is just doing it to improve her skills in bed for her boyfriend**

[msstate7]

Is that for real a possibility?

I need a wall with yarn connecting jobs like a crime detective.

No idea. Here's what I'm basing smoke on

https://x.com/psu_dylan/status/1991198407759679709?s=46

[StarkVegasSteve]

No idea. Here's what I'm basing smoke on

https://x.com/psu_dylan/status/1991198407759679709?s=46

I think Bama fans would love that. But Lane will not be a factor there until some very high level boosters have passed.

[TrapGame]

What is the deal with Kenny Dillingham and LSU?

I am seeing several LSU podcasters saying he has entered the chat.

[StarkVegasSteve]

What is the deal with Kenny Dillingham and LSU?

I am seeing several LSU podcasters saying he has entered the chat.

There is some thought that he could deliver Leavitt with him and that would make him an option.

[1eyedog]

So picture this........

Black Friday. We're up 2 scores with under 2 to play with the ball. 2 minute timeout.

Over the PA they play......Callin Baton Rouge.

The stadium would lose all semblance of it's shit

or Petty playing ?You WRECK ME BABY?......!!!!!!!!!!!

[Turfdawg67]

The perfect scenario is we beat OM, knocking them out of the playoffs, Lane leaves for LSU, and their roster and coaching staff bolts with him...the agony and rage in Oxford would be EPIC....it could only get better if someone found a way to collect and turn that essence into some type of narcotic inhaler or injection....Holy hell...

It would definitely be epic, no doubt... but man, I'd take their last 3-4 years in a heartbeat. I mean, look at our continued meltdown after DM left. And the comparison is a no-brainer.

ETA... Oops sorry, we now have to re-live our "best" ever season, ad nauseam. I'll sum it up for the 2-3 posters... Amazing, mediocre, shitty - all in one year.

[Todd4State]

The girlfriend is just doing it to improve her skills in bed for her boyfriend**

And yeah- girls can have friends that are doctors and nothing wrong with them hanging out.**

[WPS]

Golesh, Eric Morris and Kane Wommack getting the most smoke with Arkansas lately

[Santiago]

Golesh, Eric Morris and Kane Wommack getting the most smoke with Arkansas lately

One booster mentioned to me that Bobby P is the safe backup plan. Beating TX this weekend would make that interesting.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Golesh, Eric Morris and Kane Wommack getting the most smoke with Arkansas lately

I have heard Kane's name mentioned a lot lately.

[Maverick91]

I have heard Kane's name mentioned a lot lately.

Kane killed it down here at South Alabama

[StarkVegasSteve]

Just some info to pass along this morning:

Some believe that Florida was the one who leaked all the Sumrall stuff yesterday hoping that it would bring Kiffin back to the table. It seems they are fading in that pursuit.

LSU is pretty confident they will have a decision before the Egg Bowl one way or the other. Credit to them, they kind of hid in plain sight in the Kiffin pursuit until it was time to emerge. There are some in their circles that are pissed at Kiffin for making everything with the planes so public. I think there was a lot of thought that they could hammer this stuff out while Florida had all the public momentum.

Kiffin has irreparably harmed his reputation in Oxford and I do not know that he will ever fully recover. There are a lot of questions in the building on what he is going to do and he is trying to play it off like nothing is different and it is business as usual. I know of two boosters who have told Keith and Glenn that they want a decision BEFORE the team leaves for Starkville on what Lane is going to do. There are multiple starters whose reps have been in contact with Walker Jones about needing clarity on the situation. There is a growing sentiment in Oxford that if they lose next Friday, OM will push Kiffin to take either the LSU or Florida job.

No inside info on this, but I think Kiffin wants to go to LSU but wants to coach his team in the playoffs. I think he is going to hold off for as long as he can and kind of force OM to make a decision one way or the other.

[shoeless joe]

Just some info to pass along this morning:

Some believe that Florida was the one who leaked all the Sumrall stuff yesterday hoping that it would bring Kiffin back to the table. It seems they are fading in that pursuit.

LSU is pretty confident they will have a decision before the Egg Bowl one way or the other. Credit to them, they kind of hid in plain sight in the Kiffin pursuit until it was time to emerge. There are some in their circles that are pissed at Kiffin for making everything with the planes so public. I think there was a lot of thought that they could hammer this stuff out while Florida had all the public momentum.

Kiffin has irreparably harmed his reputation in Oxford and I do not know that he will ever fully recover. There are a lot of questions in the building on what he is going to do and he is trying to play it off like nothing is different and it is business as usual. I know of two boosters who have told Keith and Glenn that they want a decision BEFORE the team leaves for Starkville on what Lane is going to do. There are multiple starters whose reps have been in contact with Walker Jones about needing clarity on the situation. There is a growing sentiment in Oxford that if they lose next Friday, OM will push Kiffin to take either the LSU or Florida job.

No inside info on this, but I think Kiffin wants to go to LSU but wants to coach his team in the playoffs. I think he is going to hold off for as long as he can and kind of force OM to make a decision one way or the other.

does anyone blame kiffin for wanting the LSU job? or for wanting to coach this team in the playoffs?

i do get that he hasn't handled this whole process very well but besides not tweeting/attention whoring, what should he have done or thought differently?

[Santiago]

Just some info to pass along this morning:

Some believe that Florida was the one who leaked all the Sumrall stuff yesterday hoping that it would bring Kiffin back to the table. It seems they are fading in that pursuit.

LSU is pretty confident they will have a decision before the Egg Bowl one way or the other. Credit to them, they kind of hid in plain sight in the Kiffin pursuit until it was time to emerge. There are some in their circles that are pissed at Kiffin for making everything with the planes so public. I think there was a lot of thought that they could hammer this stuff out while Florida had all the public momentum.

Kiffin has irreparably harmed his reputation in Oxford and I do not know that he will ever fully recover. There are a lot of questions in the building on what he is going to do and he is trying to play it off like nothing is different and it is business as usual. I know of two boosters who have told Keith and Glenn that they want a decision BEFORE the team leaves for Starkville on what Lane is going to do. There are multiple starters whose reps have been in contact with Walker Jones about needing clarity on the situation. There is a growing sentiment in Oxford that if they lose next Friday, OM will push Kiffin to take either the LSU or Florida job.

No inside info on this, but I think Kiffin wants to go to LSU but wants to coach his team in the playoffs. I think he is going to hold off for as long as he can and kind of force OM to make a decision one way or the other.


Another classic , memorable BFTGE, and national eyes are on this game. We need to step up in a big way and play with nothing to lose.

[Todd4State]

does anyone blame kiffin for wanting the LSU job? or for wanting to coach this team in the playoffs?

i do get that he hasn't handled this whole process very well but besides not tweeting/attention whoring, what should he have done or thought differently?

Objectively, I don't see why he couldn't do both.

[SPMT]

Just some info to pass along this morning:

Some believe that Florida was the one who leaked all the Sumrall stuff yesterday hoping that it would bring Kiffin back to the table. It seems they are fading in that pursuit.

LSU is pretty confident they will have a decision before the Egg Bowl one way or the other. Credit to them, they kind of hid in plain sight in the Kiffin pursuit until it was time to emerge. There are some in their circles that are pissed at Kiffin for making everything with the planes so public. I think there was a lot of thought that they could hammer this stuff out while Florida had all the public momentum.

Kiffin has irreparably harmed his reputation in Oxford and I do not know that he will ever fully recover. There are a lot of questions in the building on what he is going to do and he is trying to play it off like nothing is different and it is business as usual. I know of two boosters who have told Keith and Glenn that they want a decision BEFORE the team leaves for Starkville on what Lane is going to do. There are multiple starters whose reps have been in contact with Walker Jones about needing clarity on the situation. There is a growing sentiment in Oxford that if they lose next Friday, OM will push Kiffin to take either the LSU or Florida job.

No inside info on this, but I think Kiffin wants to go to LSU but wants to coach his team in the playoffs. I think he is going to hold off for as long as he can and kind of force OM to make a decision one way or the other.

Kiffin is caught in a tough spot really and it started with Carter pushing the ?get a contract done? agenda. He said he wanted the same thing that Indiana did with Cignetti.

I don?t view Cignetti and Kiffin in the same light. Kiffin has been a successful head coach for years now and Carter essentially started this turmoil by presenting the contract mid season. It?s undeniable that Kiffin is a good coach.

I can?t blame Carter for that and can?t blame Kiffin for not signing it yet. This is nothing like Mullen talking to Miami or Maryland.

Despite what Ole Miss wants to believe, they are not Florida or LSU. Florida and LSU have more pedigree and similar resources to compete. OM truly has no pedigree. No one outside of themselves credits their natty from 80 years ago.

I?m unaware that Kiffin had anything to do with the private jet info being leaked. Fans stalk that.

[BrunswickDawg]

does anyone blame kiffin for wanting the LSU job? or for wanting to coach this team in the playoffs?

i do get that he hasn't handled this whole process very well but besides not tweeting/attention whoring, what should he have done or thought differently?

I don't necessarily blame him, but I also understand the schools wanting the coaches focused on assembling next year's team.
The portal is open Jan. 2-16. That means December is the scouting and tampering period. There is now no spring portal. So what you get in January is what you get, so you have to make it count.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Objectively, I don't see why he couldn't do both.

I'll tackle this from both sides. Let's say he wants to take the LSU job and intends to take the job.

LSU- Pending OM makes the playoff by beating us, LSU is waiting til A MINIMUM of Dec 21st for their new HC and since OM has lost 1 home game in 3 years they would win and would play on Dec 31 or Jan 1. That means at a minimum LSU's new HC has missed the early signing period for HS and the portal opens Jan 2, the same day he would be officially accepting the job. So that means he would have 19 days to build a staff, recruit his new roster, and recruit the portal. And what if OM wins that? Then it's January 9th or 10th before he could take over at LSU

Ole Miss- Again pending OM makes the playoff by beating us, Ole Miss will probably assuredly win the home playoff game and be playing until either NYE or NYD, and this is pending they wouldn't win a QF game and be playing until later. So Kiffin takes them all that way and then poof, he's gone. Now OM has to hire a new coach, help that coach build a staff, recruit their roster, and recruit the portal. And btw, the whole time Kiffin is basically tampering with his Ole Miss roster to come with him to Baton Rouge.

None of these options are feasible anymore. It's just the way the calendar works

Also what if he doesn't decide to take the LSU job, then LSU is left waiting til the middle of January and potentially misses out on coaches because they were waiting. Neither school can afford to wait.

[msstate7]

Didn't kiffin get fired last minute by Saban at bama after LK took FAU and stayed on as OC for championship? Think he did for not having his head in the bama game

Another thought is do you want lane's around your team for a month to talk them into leaving with him?

[bulldawg28]

Didn't kiffin get fired last minute by Saban at bama after LK took FAU and stayed on as OC for championship? Think he did for not having his head in the bama game

Another thought is do you want lane's around your team for a month to talk them into leaving with him?

Those that he wants he could be in Alaska and reach them.

[Brobi-wan]

Those that he wants he could be in Alaska and reach them.

That’s not really the point.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Didn't kiffin get fired last minute by Saban at bama after LK took FAU and stayed on as OC for championship? Think he did for not having his head in the bama game

Another thought is do you want lane's around your team for a month to talk them into leaving with him?

Lane started living like Joey Freshwater after he accepted the FAU job. That's another reason he'll never get the Bama job.

[Coursesuper]

That’s not really the point.

Because the point is nonsense anyway. Are we so naive as to not think he can do what he wants with that situation from wherever he is? He could be on the moon and still have the exact same amount of influence as if he was in the room. It’s not like they haven’t met.

[bulldawg28]

Because the point is nonsense anyway. Are we so naive as to not think he can do what he wants with that situation from wherever he is? He could be on the moon and still have the exact same amount of influence as if he was in the room. It’s not like they haven’t met.

Exactly

[Brobi-wan]

Because the point is nonsense anyway. Are we so naive as to not think he can do what he wants with that situation from wherever he is? He could be on the moon and still have the exact same amount of influence as if he was in the room. It’s not like they haven’t met.

Sure, but I don’t want to live in the house with my ex after the divorce is finalized. I don’t think it has anything to do with recruiting the players on their team. Just general animosity. Doesn’t help that it’s a major rival attempting to hire their coach.

I agree with SVS - If I’m LSU I want Lane recruiting and rebuilding the roster. If I’m OM I want the new guy recruiting and rebuilding the roster. These admins are fighting like catty women. Someone has to win or everyone is going to lose. I honestly think if he stays at OM it’s not quite a victory for them. Won’t ever be the same at this point.

Maybe I’m being over dramatic. After all, Coaching carousel is soap operas for men

[msstate7]

OM should move on if lane does. Lane will be split between two schools when OM needs his full attention. I mean we've already saw this: Saban had to run him off at the last minute for not devoting the time needed for game prep.

[Coursesuper]

Sure, but I don’t want to live in the house with my ex after the divorce is finalized. I don’t think it has anything to do with recruiting the players on their team. Just general animosity. Doesn’t help that it’s a major rival attempting to hire their coach.

I agree with SVS - If I’m LSU I want Lane recruiting and rebuilding the roster. If I’m OM I want the new guy recruiting and rebuilding the roster. These admins are fighting like catty women. Someone has to win or everyone is going to lose. I honestly think if he stays at OM it’s not quite a victory for them. Won’t ever be the same at this point.

Maybe I’m being over dramatic. After all, Coaching carousel is soap operas for men

I understand where you’re coming from, but truthfully I don’t think this carries on much longer. I really think this could possibly end any day now. This is all mostly posturing anyway.

[Pancho]

Maybe more real info is released Friday.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Maybe more real info is released Friday.

If nothing has been released by Sunday or Monday of next week then things are going to get REALLY DICEY.

[TrapGame]

Locked On LSU says Kiffin and Keith Carter are meeting Friday and Lane will give him his decision.

[Pancho]

They will meet but who knows what Lane reveals. He may continue the stone walling to get LSU to raise their offer which will then cause the plantation to raise their offer.........

[bulldawg28]

The longer it goes on the more I think he's staying.

[Activated Alpha]

The longer it goes on the more I think he's staying.

Same. If it does not come out this weekend, he will stay. Like the reverse Schlossnagle

[Brobi-wan]

I understand where you’re coming from, but truthfully I don’t think this carries on much longer. I really think this could possibly end any day now. This is all mostly posturing anyway.

In which direction? LK moving on?

[Todd4State]

Locked On LSU says Kiffin and Keith Carter are meeting Friday and Lane will give him his decision.

This seems like the real ultimatum.

[StarkVegasSteve]

He is leaning towards LSU. Pretty big LSU booster out of Dallas confirmed it to me tonight. The offer is 15 over 6

[Todd4State]

He is leaning towards LSU. Pretty big LSU booster out of Dallas confirmed it to me tonight. The offer is 15 over 6

You know I was thinking about this situation today and Kiffin turned down Auburn before because of his daughter. Well, that's the same daughter that's dating that LSU linebacker if I'm not mistaken. I know it's probably antecdotal but still.

[Todd4State]

Also, LSU would allow Kiffin to reunite with his good friend Coach O. Which would be very popular in Louisiana.

And I would think that LSU would be much easier to recruit to in that you aren't competing with Florida State and Miami for recruits among others.

[TrapGame]

Well, Todd.

Landry Kiffin spotted at a women?s LSU booster meeting yesterday. And per several people Ed Orgeron will be part of Kiffin?s staff.

Also per Chris Low if Kiffin leaves it could greatly affect OM?s future seeding in the playoffs. Yikes!

[BeardoMSU]

Also, LSU would allow Kiffin to reunite with his good friend Coach O. Which would be very popular in Louisiana.

And I would think that LSU would be much easier to recruit to in that you aren't competing with Florida State and Miami for recruits among others.

Already rumblings of EddyO joining Kiffin's staff in LSU. They're primed to be a recruiting juggernaut.

[Santiago]

Already rumblings of EddyO joining Kiffin's staff in LSU. They're primed to be a recruiting juggernaut.

Eddie O to be the minister of culture, and Lane's wingman.

[Tater]

Already rumblings of EddyO joining Kiffin's staff in LSU. They're primed to be a recruiting juggernaut.

Frank Wilson to stay on too. 30 Million + Collective (~15 Million) per year in NIL.

That's just what I'm hearing. I'm not betting my life on any of it yet. I just won't believe that troll is gone until he's gone.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Frank Wilson to stay on too. 30 Million + Collective (~15 Million) per year in NIL.

That's just what I'm hearing. I'm not betting my life on any of it yet. I just won't believe that troll is gone until he's gone.

No one knows what Lane is going to do. Even their beat writers, and Chase Parham is very plugged in to what is going on at OM, don't have a clue what he is going to do. I think deep down they believe Kiffin is gone and probably want to report that but info is going 900 different directions so they don't feel comfortable going too far down one path.

I've said since Monday morning, and a lot of people have come around to this thinking now on their side, that Kiffin wants to force Keith Carter to tell him he has to leave. He wants to be the "victim" in all this. He keeps trying to control the narrative and act like nothing is wrong. He wants Keith to tell him he either has to sign the extension or move on to LSU. He's not going to let him coach them in the playoffs with this looming and that's what Lane wants to do.


EDITED TO ADD: I'm now about 50/50 he coaches the Egg Bowl. I've been like 99% the whole time. Now Keith and Lane could come out of this meeting like a Presidential Candidate and his VP pick at a convention but I just am not seeing that. Lane wants the best of both worlds. He wants to coach OM in the playoffs but he also wants to coach in Baton Rouge next year. I really think regardless of what happens, Lane has irreparably harmed his reputation. He has torpedoed every bit of goodwill he got from that ESPN Doc. It's actually incredible.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Ole Miss mods reported that OM coaches were supposed to be on the road recruiting today and were told to stay. Apparently they are also practicing today and the players are none too happy.

This is getting absolutely incredible. This will end up being messier than leaving Tennessee for USC BY A MILE. OM fans are fed up. I think at this point, public perception in and around that program has shifted on Lane. I think they're all done with him.

[BigDawg81]

Ole Miss mods reported that OM coaches were supposed to be on the road recruiting today and were told to stay. Apparently they are also practicing today and the players are none too happy.

This is getting absolutely incredible. This will end up being messier than leaving Tennessee for USC BY A MILE. OM fans are fed up. I think at this point, public perception in and around that program has shifted on Lane. I think they're all done with him.
Somebody is going to be upset. Ole Miss is 85% confident that he is staying. LSU is 85% confident and Florida is 85% confident. Yikes

[Coach34]

I'm hearing Fla is out of it. They wouldnt agree to about 20% of things he wanted. Now that could change obviously- but the momentum seems to be Mississippi vs LSU

[StarkVegasSteve]

Somebody is going to be upset. Ole Miss is 85% confident that he is staying. LSU is 85% confident and Florida is 85% confident. Yikes

I don't get the feeling OM is 85% confident he is staying. I think that's one guy. LSU has had a quiet confidence about them the whole time. Florida is a crap show and a half.

[BlackSailsDawg]

I don't get the feeling OM is 85% confident he is staying. I think that's one guy. LSU has had a quiet confidence about them the whole time. Florida is a crap show and a half.


I will say this one more time. Lane is gone. It makes no sense to stay.

There will never be another time where so many top jobs are open while he is at his all time high in worth/value. If he wants a top job, it's now. If not. He will be in the Grove for another 3 to 6 years..... or out of the SEC.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I will say this one more time. Lane is gone. It makes no sense to stay.

There will never be another time where so many top jobs are open while he is at his all time high in worth/value. If he wants a top job, it's now. If not. He will be in the Grove for another 3 to 6 years..... or out of the SEC.

I'll say this, I think he's already done irreparable harm to his image and standing in Oxford, even if he stays. I don't think they want to do this every year, and they'll have to. Hell, they may not be done doing it this year. There's rumors that Bama and Texas could open and then there's the NFL. There's a world where he turns down LSU, loses to us, misses the playoffs, and then just takes an NFL job.

However, I think you're right. There's too many national guys that are all over this that are all but saying he's taking LSU. Zenitz even had the report about reuniting with O last night and had the wording if/when Lane takes the LSU job. National guys don't word stuff like that unless they have it on damn good authority.

[Coursesuper]

I'll say this, I think he's already done irreparable harm to his image and standing in Oxford, even if he stays. I don't think they want to do this every year, and they'll have to. Hell, they may not be done doing it this year. There's rumors that Bama and Texas could open and then there's the NFL. There's a world where he turns down LSU, loses to us, misses the playoffs, and then just takes an NFL job.

However, I think you're right. There's too many national guys that are all over this that are all but saying he's taking LSU. Zenitz even had the report about reuniting with O last night and had the wording if/when Lane takes the LSU job. National guys don't word stuff like that unless they have it on damn good authority.

This is spot on. National guys are not going to put it out there to get slapped in the face a few days later. They have someone they trust giving them info.

[Coach34]

This is spot on. National guys are not going to put it out there to get slapped in the face a few days later. They have someone they trust giving them info.

That would be one Jimmy Sexton

[Dawgology]

Has anyone considered he may be waiting for the Vandy job to open up?? ***

[basedog]

Well no so fast my friends. Lots going on from what i was told this morning. Seems Kiffin and Sexton are only ones who know.

[AlSwearengen]

Kiffin just tweeted a "recruiting" post on twitter soliciting the top safeties in the SEC that would indicate he is staying put. Who knows.

[Brobi-wan]

Kiffin just tweeted a "recruiting" post on twitter soliciting the top safeties in the SEC that would indicate he is staying put. Who knows.

Even NewsWeek is reporting Kiffin basically gone. I will take my chances and bet that he is leaving

[TrapGame]

Even NewsWeek is reporting Kiffin basically gone. I will take my chances and bet that he is leaving

Too much smoke now. That tweet means zilch.

[msstate7]

I think it's gonna be Florida

[LC Dawg]

I think it's gonna be Florida

That's what I think too.
And LSU is getting Kiffin more money from Florida.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I think it's gonna be Florida

If it is Florida then they pulled a godfather offer out of nowhere.

[Santiago]

Man , if he leaves ole miss will have to train a new puppy for the new coach.

[TrapGame]

Florida is out of it. That?s why they wanted to interview Sumrall. But Sexton told him to wait for OM to open.

There?s some talk that Lincoln Riley may be interested in the Florida job.

[Santiago]

Florida is out of it. That?s why they wanted to interview Sumrall. But Sexton told him to wait for OM to open.

There?s some talk that Lincoln Riley may be interested in the Florida job.

Riley has a huge buyout, right?

[msstate7]

Florida is out of it. That?s why they wanted to interview Sumrall. But Sexton told him to wait for OM to open.

There?s some talk that Lincoln Riley may be interested in the Florida job.

Maybe so, but kiffin team met with Florida again last night

[TrapGame]

Riley has a huge buyout, right?

I haven?t checked. Could be.

And there is also word that Fat Bert is going after the Auburn job. He actually inquired about our job after Leach died.

[TrapGame]

Maybe so, but kiffin team met with Florida again last night

One last chance to get what he wants. Interesting.

[Santiago]

ole miss 247 speculated Florida met with the Kiffin reps, but about Key.

[TrapGame]

ole miss 247 speculated Florida met with the Kiffin reps, but about Key.

Georgia Tech?s coach?

[basedog]

I can tell you peeps that it seems more "iffy" of Kiffin going to Lsu now. This came from someone who is the know with someone in the process. Now like I said earlier seems Kiffin and Sexton are the only ones in the know.

[Santiago]

I hope it continues through next week.

[BorneDawg]

I think he's gone to the corn dogs!

[Santiago]

It is LSU unless Ole Miss pulls some miracle.

[TrapGame]

Now there are a couple of Bama podcasters freaking out over DB possibly going to Penn State. Evidently there is some smoke to this.

[DawgNsuds]

Now there are a couple of Bama podcasters freaking out over DB possibly going to Penn State. Evidently there is some smoke to this.

Well that would ratchet things up a bit

[msstate7]

ole miss 247 speculated Florida met with the Kiffin reps, but about Key.

Lebby to GT

[Quaoarsking]

Lebby to GT

The dream scenario is that we win the Egg Bowl, knock Ole Miss out of the playoffs, Lebby gets poached by some chumps, and we make a better hire than Ole Miss does and the in state pendulum swings back to us.

[RezDog7]

The dream scenario is that we win the Egg Bowl, knock Ole Miss out of the playoffs, Lebby gets poached by some chumps, and we make a better hire than Ole Miss does and the in state pendulum swings back to us.

You can go ahead and expect the complete opposite of all of that shit.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

You can go ahead and expect the complete opposite of all of that shit.

^^^ EXACTLY ^^^

[Coursesuper]

You can go ahead and expect the complete opposite of all of that shit.

You are correct about that. It blows my mind that people can’t get it that there is so much more to a football program than just the head guy. I guess it just proves why we were so far behind and our people still lack the ability to see past their own experience.

[msstate7]

You are correct about that. It blows my mind that people can’t get it that there is so much more to a football program than just the head guy. I guess it just proves why we were so far behind and our people still lack the ability to see past their own experience.

Of course there's more than the HC. HC is a big part though, and some (most) of us have no confidence in Lebby. Hard to get everyone to buy in when a large portion doesn't believe in the face of the program.

[Todd4State]

Of course there's more than the HC. HC is a big part though, and some (most) of us have no confidence in Lebby. Hard to get everyone to buy in when a large portion doesn't believe in the face of the program.

Hard to have buy in when fans constantly come up with reasons to not have buy in. Like he won't play the QB I like.

[Quaoarsking]

There is so much more to a football program than just the head guy.

The Lebby skeptics are the side that grasps that, not the small portion of our fambase that still likes him. We know that the program will be just fine without him.

[Quaoarsking]

Hard to have buy in when fans constantly come up with reasons to not have buy in. Like he won't play the QB I like.

I have never demanded that Lebby play any particular QB. He's the coach and can approach personnel decisions like he wants to. But when we blow multiple winnable games and turn a rare chance for an 8-4/9-3 type season into a 5-7 season with obvious coaching blunders, that's on him.

We got really lucky with our scheduling this year, with 7 of our 9 P4 opponents being worse than expected, 2 of them much worse, and did not take advantage of the opportunity that presented us. Maybe we'll get lucky again like that next year, but it's just as likely to go the other way.

[StarkVegasSteve]

The Lebby skeptics are the side that grasps that, not the small portion of our fambase that still likes him. We know that the program will be just fine without him.

The thing is most of the fanbase does still like Lebby. Now the message board diehards may not like him, but if you asked Avg Joe Fan from Attala Co he's going to tell you that while he's pissed we lost some games, he likes the progress. I think far too often, and I'm guilty of it as well, we take what is posted on a message board as an edict put out by the entire fan base. I would venture a guess that about 15%-20% of the overall fan base regularly posts on message boards, and it's probably a hell of a lot lower than that. Like I said, I know I'm guilty of it at times as well, but most fans don't post on message boards and they don't really pay attention to them.

[msstate7]

The thing is most of the fanbase does still like Lebby. Now the message board diehards may not like him, but if you asked Avg Joe Fan from Attala Co he's going to tell you that while he's pissed we lost some games, he likes the progress. I think far too often, and I'm guilty of it as well, we take what is posted on a message board as an edict put out by the entire fan base. I would venture a guess that about 15%-20% of the overall fan base regularly posts on message boards. Like I said, I know I'm guilty of it at times as well, but most fans don't post on message boards and they don't really pay attention to them.

So the ones that spend all day, every day thinking abiut this aren't in favor of Lebby, but the ones that don't really pay much attention like Lebby. If that's true, man, that ain't really a good thing for Lebby

[Quaoarsking]

The thing is most of the fanbase does still like Lebby. Now the message board diehards may not like him, but if you asked Avg Joe Fan from Attala Co he's going to tell you that while he's pissed we lost some games, he likes the progress. I think far too often, and I'm guilty of it as well, we take what is posted on a message board as an edict put out by the entire fan base. I would venture a guess that about 15%-20% of the overall fan base regularly posts on message boards, and it's probably a hell of a lot lower than that. Like I said, I know I'm guilty of it at times as well, but most fans don't post on message boards and they don't really pay attention to them.

I just don't think this is true. I don't live in Attala County or ever go there, but basically everyone I talk to in Rankin County is ready to move on, to the point where I'm probably a little bit into the "pro-Lebby" half of my sample because I'm at least going to keep my word after saying I wouldn't demand to fire him after he beat Arkansas.

Also, it seems like Twitter and Facebook comments are even more overwhelmingly negative than the message boards are.

[Maroon Glasses]

I just don't think this is true. I don't live in Attala County or ever go there, but basically everyone I talk to in Rankin County is ready to move on, to the point where I'm probably a little bit into the "pro-Lebby" half of my sample because I'm at least going to keep my word after saying I wouldn't demand to fire him after he beat Arkansas.

Also, it seems like Twitter and Facebook comments are even more overwhelmingly negative than the message boards are.

You are correct.. social media is way, way more negative from what I've seen. And that's just from accounts that I follow. Also just from my group of friends and State fans, most of not all are not happy with him. I'm not to that point myself. I can see all arguments for the most part. He has done some good and done some bad. Most people seem to take one side and run with it though. Me personally, I don't think he needs to be fired. Next year will determine that outcome and seems like most people on this board feel that way.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I just don't think this is true. I don't live in Attala County or ever go there, but basically everyone I talk to in Rankin County is ready to move on, to the point where I'm probably a little bit into the "pro-Lebby" half of my sample because I'm at least going to keep my word after saying I wouldn't demand to fire him after he beat Arkansas.

Also, it seems like Twitter and Facebook comments are even more overwhelmingly negative than the message boards are.

Well now that is 1000% true. Social Media is god awful

But again, that kind of falls into the message board category, especially the burner accts.

And that's great that everyone in Rankin Co wants him gone, they also wanted Arnett to be the HC so I don't really trust their opinion on coaching abilities.

Look we've had a better year. It's been maddening at times and downright frustrating at times. But you can tell we're headed in the right direction.


Now, back to the coaching mega thread. Kiffin GONE

[Maroon Glasses]

Per Keith Carter... the announcement on Kiffins decision will be announced after the Egg Bowl. Blowing up on Twitter right now. He is gone!

[StarkVegasSteve]

Per Keith Carter... the announcement on Kiffins decision will be announced after the Egg Bowl. Blowing up on Twitter right now. He is gone!

Going into this morning, I didn't think that was an option. I really didn't. I mean Lane basically told Keith and Boyce to eat shit and like it. I mean they now are going to have a, for lack of a better term, lame duck coaching them with a playoff berth on the line.

This weekend and next week is going to be ALL KINDS OF UNCOMFORTABLE in Oxford, MS.

[Maroon Glasses]

Going into this morning, I didn't think that was an option. I really didn't. I mean Lane basically told Keith and Boyce to eat shit and like it. I mean they now are going to have a, for lack of a better term, lame duck coaching them with a playoff berth on the line.

This weekend and next week is going to be ALL KINDS OF UNCOMFORTABLE in Oxford, MS.

You think the outcome of the game determines the decision or is the decision already made?

Why would you allow him to coach the Egg Bowl if he is leaving? Maybe just to get the win and get a spot in the playoffs? Coach with an interim from there.

[Santiago]

How is Bagdad Bob...I mean, Spirit Ben, doing this evening.

[StarkVegasSteve]

You think the outcome of the game determines the decision or is the decision already made?

Why would you allow him to coach the Egg Bowl if he is leaving? Maybe just to get the win and get a spot in the playoffs? Coach with an interim from there.

It tells me that Lane has made his decision, he wants to go to LSU but coach OM til the end of the season, but OM doesn't believe they have enough to suspend him.

[Tripp McNeely]

You think the outcome of the game determines the decision or is the decision already made?

Why would you allow him to coach the Egg Bowl if he is leaving? Maybe just to get the win and get a spot in the playoffs? Coach with an interim from there.

Haha, do you really think he would make a life-altering decision for himself and his family based on the outcome of the friggin EB against a 5-6 State team??? 😂😂😂

[basedog]

It tells me that Lane has made his decision, he wants to go to LSU but coach OM til the end of the season, but OM doesn't believe they have enough to suspend him.

They have no choice because they want fire him with the buyout. He has Ole Dixie by the n$tt$. He wins regardless.

[Maroon Glasses]

Haha, do you really think he would make a life-altering decision for himself and his family based on the outcome of the friggin EB against a 5-6 State team??? ������

If they lose I doubt they make the playoffs and he goes to LSU. A win and they are in. So yes, it's a possibility the Egg Bowl could determine his outcome. I think his mind is made up and is going to LSU no matter what tho. But never know.

SVS.. gotcha man, thanks. That makes sense. I guess Lane does hold all the cards after all.

[Brobi-wan]

After the BS he has pulled, unless he is fired, LSU may be his last college stop.

[TrapGame]

If they lose I doubt they make the playoffs and he goes to LSU. A win and they are in. So yes, it's a possibility the Egg Bowl could determine his outcome. I think his mind is made up and is going to LSU no matter what tho. But never know.

SVS.. gotcha man, thanks. That makes sense. I guess Lane does hold all the cards after all.

If we beat them and Kiffin bolts to BR there is no way OM is in the playoffs. You can write it in blood. A loss to your down in the dumps rival and your head coach leaves to go elsewhere, no they aren?t making the playoffs.

[msstate7]

So who does OM go after? I would imagine they will fund the hell out of their NIL for whoever for at least 1 season

[Maroon Glasses]

If we beat them and Kiffin bolts to BR there is no way OM is in the playoffs. You can write it in blood. A loss to your down in the dumps rival and your head coach leaves to go elsewhere, no they aren?t making the playoffs.

Yep.. which makes a win that much better. Their coach leaves and we ruin their dream season! Lebby and staff has an opportunity to make some people very happy

[DownwardDawg]

Per Keith Carter... the announcement on Kiffins decision will be announced after the Egg Bowl. Blowing up on Twitter right now. He is gone!

100% gone. If he was staying , it would be announced before the EB. There is no doubt about that.

[DownwardDawg]

Well now that is 1000% true. Social Media is god awful

But again, that kind of falls into the message board category, especially the burner accts.

And that's great that everyone in Rankin Co wants him gone, they also wanted Arnett to be the HC so I don't really trust their opinion on coaching abilities.

Look we've had a better year. It's been maddening at times and downright frustrating at times. But you can tell we're headed in the right direction.


Now, back to the coaching mega thread. Kiffin GONE

I was at Barber shop the other day, my barber is a State fan. There was another State fan in there. They both think Lebby is terrible. No idea if they post on message boards or are on social media. Just a small example. I work closely with another State fan. He thinks Lebby is terrible.
I'm still on the fence.

[basedog]

Better for Lebby to be successful than to tank next year. I am pulling for him.

[Maroon Glasses]

I was at Barber shop the other day, my barber is a State fan. There was another State fan in there. They both think Lebby is terrible. No idea if they post on message boards or are on social media. Just a small example. I work closely with another State fan. He thinks Lebby is terrible.
I'm still on the fence.

I'm still on the fence too, but maybe a little more Pro Lebby, idk yet. I'm pulling hard for him.

[Percho]

I like Lebby's offense. I would like to have better defense. However I thought the decision to go for it on our end of the field in 1st half at Mo was the worst decision in the HISTORY of football.
And I am not sure he will grow out of decisions like that.

[Activated Alpha]

Better for Lebby to be successful than to tank next year. I am pulling for him.

Better for all of us if Lebby is successful. I know I bitch about him, but deep down I do want him to succeed. Just like I want Sherrone to be successful at Michigan (he is having an ok season so far this year)

[Maroon Glasses]

I like Lebby's offense. I would like to have better defense. However I thought the decision to go for it on our end of the field in 1st half at Mo was the worst decision in the HISTORY of football.
And I am not sure he will grow out of decisions like that.

That is what I am worried about too. I'm okay with making decisions, especially someone like Lebby who is in Y2 of his HC career. I just hope he learns from his mistakes. If he does I think he is going to be a good coach.

[Santiago]

We should serve Corndogs at the game, if we don't alredy.
all those concession stands where ole miss bought the sections....serve only coke and corn dogs .

[Maroon Glasses]

We should serve Corndogs at the game, if we don't alredy.
all those concession stands where ole miss bought the sections....serve only coke and corn dogs .

Lol! Yes bro!

[TrapGame]

100% gone. If he was staying , it would be announced before the EB. There is no doubt about that.

OM is going to take a hit in the rankings if Kiffin leaves. Announcing today would have given us momentum for the EB and a drop in the rankings this coming Tuesday.

[Turfdawg67]

Jesus... I'm sure this site is happy for the clicks, but these same two dudes, over and over and over. We get it!!!

[DownwardDawg]

Better for Lebby to be successful than to tank next year. I am pulling for him.

I'm pulling hard for him. His offense has potential to be phenomenal.

[Santiago]

Arkansas hiring Matt Campbell?

[WPS]

Arkansas hiring Matt Campbell?

Thamel says they?re finalizing a deal with someone that should be done this weekend. Not sure who, search has been kept under wraps for the most part.

[shoeless joe]

Lebby has a good offense and can obviously bring in some skill position talent. He has the program moving on an upward trajectory?of course downward wasnt possible when he took over. He also may be the absolute worst in game decision maker ive ever seen. And it?s consistently terrible. Both of these things can be true.


Can it also be true that kiffin truly doesn?t know what he?s gonna do yet and he and Carter came to the conclusion that a decision should be made by the Saturday after the egg bowl? And I?m just throwing that out there cuz to me it definitely sounds like he?s gone

[Todd4State]

It tells me that Lane has made his decision, he wants to go to LSU but coach OM til the end of the season, but OM doesn't believe they have enough to suspend him.

That was definitely a "let's calm the storm" message for sure.

[basedog]

Lebby has a good offense and can obviously bring in some skill position talent. He has the program moving on an upward trajectory?of course downward wasnt possible when he took over. He also may be the absolute worst in game decision maker ive ever seen. And it?s consistently terrible. Both of these things can be true.


Can it also be true that kiffin truly doesn?t know what he?s gonna do yet and he and Carter came to the conclusion that a decision should be made by the Saturday after the egg bowl? And I?m just throwing that out there cuz to me it definitely sounds like he?s gone

He knows, no doubt he wants to finish this years run.

[DEDawg]

We should serve Corndogs at the game, if we don't alredy.
all those concession stands where ole miss bought the sections....serve only coke and corn dogs .

we are 100% not trying if we don't play callin' Baton Rouge over the jumbo tron and aggressively have signs everywhere advertising $3 corndogs throughout every food stand

[Goldendawg]

I just don't think this is true. I don't live in Attala County or ever go there, but basically everyone I talk to in Rankin County is ready to move on, to the point where I'm probably a little bit into the "pro-Lebby" half of my sample because I'm at least going to keep my word after saying I wouldn't demand to fire him after he beat Arkansas.

Also, it seems like Twitter and Facebook comments are even more overwhelmingly negative than the message boards are.

As ya'll know my family has had season tickets for 58 consecutive years. In my neck of the woods, the bunch that is old as me (very few now) know another Shira, Felker, Croom, JoMo, and Arnett hire when they see one and Lebby fits the mold unfortunately. I don't know a single person who thinks he's the answer next week or next year. All these bad in-game decisions which he has doubled down, ala JoMo, have turned everyone off.

A win over Ole Miss, 6-6, and even a bottom-tier bowl would provide hope for next year.

[DEDawg]

As ya'll know my family has had season tickets for 58 consecutive years. In my neck of the woods, the bunch that is old as me (very few now) know another Shira, Felker, Croom, JoMo, and Arnett hire when they see one and Lebby fits the mold unfortunately. I don't know a single person who thinks he's the answer next week or next year. All these bad in-game decisions which he has doubled down, ala JoMo, have turned everyone off.

I feel like we are having revisionist history on JMo. Lebby is 10x the coach, I don't see the comparisons there at all. Don't even get me started on comparing him to Arnett that is absurd.

[Goldendawg]

I feel like we are having revisionist history on JMo. Lebby is 10x the coach, I don't see the comparisons there at all. Don't even get me started on comparing him to Arnett that is absurd.

I beg to disagree pertaining to a comparison to JoMo. Lebby like JoMo seems to be stubborn about his decision-making and doubling down on the calls when so many went wrong this year. The comparison that included Arnett in that group was our "powers to be" again hiring an on the job training assistant coach to be our head coach time after time expecting a different outcome. My wife said that is the defintion of insanity. I have an opinion just like you and I know a lot of people in my area, and very few think Lebby is the answer.

[Maroon Glasses]

I feel like we are having revisionist history on JMo. Lebby is 10x the coach, I don't see the comparisons there at all. Don't even get me started on comparing him to Arnett that is absurd.

Jomo had way more talent than Lebby has at every position on defense and O Line and that's not even debatable. I think we all can agree there. Lebby has done more with less. I agree with most on here.. Lebby's and Jomo's in game decision making isn't separated by much. Lebby has done way more with less tho, imo. His offense is 10x better than Jomo.

Jomo sucked. As of now, I give the edge to Lebby. I would like to see Lebby with the 2018 team and see how it went.

[Todd4State]

As ya'll know my family has had season tickets for 58 consecutive years. In my neck of the woods, the bunch that is old as me (very few now) know another Shira, Felker, Croom, JoMo, and Arnett hire when they see one and Lebby fits the mold unfortunately. I don't know a single person who thinks he's the answer next week or next year. All these bad in-game decisions which he has doubled down, ala JoMo, have turned everyone off.

A win over Ole Miss, 6-6, and even a bottom-tier bowl would provide hope for next year.

This is what I am talking about. Our fans haven't even given him a chance to turn it around. We hire a coach with no experience and then we're mad because he is learning on the job. And then people say he should be fired for not starting the QB they want.

And this is a coach who didn't take over the 2017 MSU Bulldogs. This is post Arnett while trying to figure out NIL MSU.

Our fans are stupid when it comes to football.

And oh by the way I forgot to mention the fact that he more than doubled his won total from last year. But yeah. Let's fire him because he couldn't win 8 with a roster built to win 6.

[Goldendawg]

Jomo had way more talent than Lebby has at every position on defense and O Line and that's not even debatable. I think we all can agree there. Lebby has done more with less. I agree with most on here.. Lebby's and Jomo's in game decision making isn't separated by much. Lebby has done way more with less tho, imo. His offense is 10x better than Jomo.

Jomo sucked. As of now, I give the edge to Lebby. I would like to see Lebby with the 2018 team and see how it went.
I agree that JoMo had much more talent, but my comparison is JoMo turned a possible 10-2 team into an 8-4 team by his stubborn know-it-all bad in-game decisions much like Lebby has turned a possible 8-win team into a 5-win team if we lose to Ole Miss.

[Goldendawg]

This is what I am talking about. Our fans haven't even given him a chance to turn it around. We hire a coach with no experience and then we're mad because he is learning on the job. And then people say he should be fired for not starting the QB they want.

And this is a coach who didn't take over the 2017 MSU Bulldogs. This is post Arnett while trying to figure out NIL MSU.

Our fans are stupid when it comes to football.

And oh by the way I forgot to mention the fact that he more than doubled his won total from last year. But yeah. Let's fire him because he couldn't win 8 with a roster built to win 6.

We have some of the most long-suffering fans in college football and the majority are not stupid. I'm not for firing him, I'm just calling him out for his in-game blunders to date, but I don't know why we have to put up with on the job training coaches. If we beat Ole Miss to go to 6-6, I have hope. If 2026 is a replay of this year, it's another story. As far as doubling our win total, we have victories over 3 OOC cupcakes and a miracle against Arizona State but let's be proud of a signature win against an Arkansas program that practically gave us the game on penalties with a last minute pass again being the difference.

So the roster is built to beat six, huh? We sure need to beat Ole Miss next week.

[msstate7]

This is what I am talking about. Our fans haven't even given him a chance to turn it around. We hire a coach with no experience and then we're mad because he is learning on the job. And then people say he should be fired for not starting the QB they want.

And this is a coach who didn't take over the 2017 MSU Bulldogs. This is post Arnett while trying to figure out NIL MSU.

Our fans are stupid when it comes to football.

And oh by the way I forgot to mention the fact that he more than doubled his won total from last year. But yeah. Let's fire him because he couldn't win 8 with a roster built to win 6.

I like it; 6 wins or get on down! Hell yeah, Todd

[DownwardDawg]

This is what I am talking about. Our fans haven't even given him a chance to turn it around. We hire a coach with no experience and then we're mad because he is learning on the job. And then people say he should be fired for not starting the QB they want.

And this is a coach who didn't take over the 2017 MSU Bulldogs. This is post Arnett while trying to figure out NIL MSU.

Our fans are stupid when it comes to football.

And oh by the way I forgot to mention the fact that he more than doubled his won total from last year. But yeah. Let's fire him because he couldn't win 8 with a roster built to win 6.

Or maybe hire Sumrall 2 years ago instead of Lebby. Just a thought.
Maybe our fans aren't as dumb as you think they are. And I'm not a Lebby hater. I want him to succeed, but he has made terrible in game decisions.

[DEDawg]

I beg to disagree pertaining to a comparison to JoMo. Lebby like JoMo seems to be stubborn about his decision-making and doubling down on the calls when so many went wrong this year. The comparison that included Arnett in that group was our "powers to be" again hiring an on the job training assistant coach to be our head coach time after time expecting a different outcome. My wife said that is the defintion of insanity. I have an opinion just like you and I know a lot of people in my area, and very few think Lebby is the answer.

Fair enough and I respect the opinion, but with how much talent JMo had I just can't compare him to Lebby. It's apples to oranges imo. I can't even do the Arnett one though, that dude was an absolute clown. He wasn't even the HC on our team besides in name

[DEDawg]

We have some of the most long-suffering fans in college football and the majority are not stupid. I'm not for firing him, I'm just calling him out for his in-game blunders to date, but I don't know why we have to put up with on the job training coaches. If we beat Ole Miss to go to 6-6, I have hope. If 2026 is a replay of this year, it's another story. As far as doubling our win total, we have victories over 3 OOC cupcakes and a miracle against Arizona State but let's be proud of a signature win against an Arkansas program that practically gave us the game on penalties with a last minute pass again being the difference.

So the roster is built to beat six, huh? We sure need to beat Ole Miss next week.

I also don't believe this roster is built to win 6. I still think 6 would be massively over achieving for this year (and feel EVERYONE on this board would have agreed back in July 6 would have been a great year for us). 8 would have been coach of the year territory lol.

[DEDawg]

Or maybe hire Sumrall 2 years ago instead of Lebby. Just a thought.
Maybe our fans aren't as dumb as you think they are. And I'm not a Lebby hater. I want him to succeed, but he has made terrible in game decisions.

What happens if Sumrall ends up being the same as Napier? All I'm saying is there is no way to know he would have been good.

[msstate7]

What happens if Sumrall ends up being the same as Napier? All I'm saying is there is no way to know he would have been good.

Then we in the same spot we are now

[Maroon Glasses]

I haven't seen many posters on here saying Lebby needs to be fired. I've seen fans speaking the truth about bad game in game decisions. It doesn't make anyone dumb and doesn't mean they don't understand the game. You can question all of this while still supporting and hoping Lebby succeeds.

[DEDawg]

Then we in the same spot we are now

And what spot is that? YoY improvement going into Y3?

[Todd4State]

Or maybe hire Sumrall 2 years ago instead of Lebby. Just a thought.
Maybe our fans aren't as dumb as you think they are. And I'm not a Lebby hater. I want him to succeed, but he has made terrible in game decisions.

When you have fans that say a coach should be fired because he is not starting the quarterback that they want to start. A QB that by the way has been sacked almost as many times as the starting QB because their theory hinges on the fact that because the QB is more mobile he would be sacked less. That is absolutely dumb.

Our fans want to win. But they also demand that MSU win a certain way. Which is why I say they're dumb.

The bottom line is MSU fans value the wrong things. There is too much blame on the coach and never enough blame on the players or the situation or looking for tangible solutions to improve the situation. It's always hey let's fire so and so and hire some offensive guru who can do more with less. For once- just once- it would be nice to see a majority of our fans say "Hey let's improve our NIL and recruiting efforts and try to bring in better players and more depth." But then that puts the onus on the fans and they don't like that because then they're part of the problem. And instead of saying "you know I should maybe pledge more money" they just bitch about people asking them to give more money.

And yes, Lebby has done some things that are head scratching and over aggressive and wrong. But there has never been a football game where one single play was "the reason" why a team lost. Coaches make calls that don't work all the time every single game. But at MSU they blow up more because we lack depth and players. And that magnifies everything.

So that's why I am saying we should give more money and support Lebby instead of running him down because of petty bullshit like not starting "a mobile QB" after an offseason where fans constantly said that Shapen shouldn't be running no less. And now it's "he won't make changes to staff" when the season isn't even over yet. I mean- damn- give him a chance to make changes after the season is over at least. And if he doesn't then criticize. But give him the chance. Do we really want to go into the Egg Bowl with no defensive staff like Rhoads can do it all by himself?

And it's not just Lebby it's every coach except for Dan who was given a complete pass by fans for doing a lot of the same crap. But you know what? That also shows what can happen when you're patient and you go give someone a chance to succeed.

As far as me and Lebby- I want him to work out because he is our head coach and him having success is good for MSU. If he doesn't work out, he doesn't work out but at least I gave him a chance. We'll just go hire another coach like Joe Judge or whoever. Rinse and repeat.

[msstate7]

And what spot is that? YoY improvement going into Y3?

Napier in Y1= 3 sec wins. Napier in Y2 = 3 sec wins
Lebby in Y1 = 0 sec wins. Lebby in Y2 = 1 sec win

Lebby is an ace. Napier sucks

[Todd4State]

Or maybe hire Sumrall 2 years ago instead of Lebby. Just a thought.
Maybe our fans aren't as dumb as you think they are. And I'm not a Lebby hater. I want him to succeed, but he has made terrible in game decisions.

No way to know how Sumrall turns out. How would our fans have reacted if he brought in the guy who was the OC at Arkansas under Chad Morris? That's who his guy was at Tulane. Their offense is extremely boring. And I do think there is some risk with Sumrall because he took over a Tulane program that didn't need rebuilding and was already in a great spot and he didn't change much. Similar to Napier when he took over for Hud at ULL.

[Todd4State]

We have some of the most long-suffering fans in college football and the majority are not stupid. I'm not for firing him, I'm just calling him out for his in-game blunders to date, but I don't know why we have to put up with on the job training coaches. If we beat Ole Miss to go to 6-6, I have hope. If 2026 is a replay of this year, it's another story. As far as doubling our win total, we have victories over 3 OOC cupcakes and a miracle against Arizona State but let's be proud of a signature win against an Arkansas program that practically gave us the game on penalties with a last minute pass again being the difference.

So the roster is built to beat six, huh? We sure need to beat Ole Miss next week.

We absolutely should be proud of that win over Arizona State. There was no luck there. We made plays and dominated them all night.

And yes, this roster was built to win six. That is this teams ceiling. We may not quite get there but with an easier schedule there is no question we would.

[Quaoarsking]

we're mad because he is learning on the job.

Yes. Screw "learning on the job." This is the SEC. Be good or get out.

[Quaoarsking]

We absolutely should be proud of that win over Arizona State. There was no luck there. We made plays and dominated them all night.

And yes, this roster was built to win six. That is this teams ceiling. We may not quite get there but with an easier schedule there is no question we would.

It was "built to win six" before we realized that Florida and Arkansas were significantly worse than last year, and Texas, Arizona State, Tennessee, and Missouri had all taken a clear step back too.

You have to update your priors when you get new information. You just have to.

[shoeless joe]

But there has never been a football game where one single play was "the reason" why a team lost.

Agree with your entire premise…except for this sentence. And in reality it’s true but only because there have been multiple horribly mind boggling decisions and plays in each of the close losses. One play isn’t the reason cuz the handful of terrible decisions were.

Again…not for Lebby’s firing. In fact I think that would 100% be the wrong move right now. But I am for our own ultimatum of hiring him an OC in title that can help him with his weakness. Or that he trusts to call plays within his system

[Dawgology]

If Lebby gets to 6 - 6 (2-6) then he did ok this year. We were some really dumb in game coaching decisions from 7-5 (3-5) or even 8-4 (4-4). At the beginning of the year I said 6-6 was our ceiling so he will have met those expectations. With that said Lebby is largely the reason we aren’t already bowl eligible. If he follows up next season with 1 or 0 wins in the SEC he just needs to be let go.

[confucius say]

It was "built to win six" before we realized that Florida and Arkansas were significantly worse than last year, and Texas, Arizona State, Tennessee, and Missouri had all taken a clear step back too.

You have to update your priors when you get new information. You just have to.

It's built to win 3.5 according to the experts.