View Full Version : It's O'Connor. to be announced tomorrow
Bert Stare
05-28-2025, 02:49 PM
I reached out to an old friend of mine who currently works at UVA Athletics. Let's call him Mr. Big Brain. We met through mutual acquaintances in Miami back before covid hit. We became friends because we realized we both attended MSU.
I jokingly sent him a text today to see if he was having to move back to Starkville. He sent back that he is probably going to stay in Virginia, but his co-worker is heading to Starkvegas tomorrow. followed by a wink emoji.
and there you have it.
DownwardDawg
05-28-2025, 02:51 PM
Damn......
sandjunky
05-28-2025, 02:51 PM
Damn so O?Connor is not coming
StarkVegasSteve
05-28-2025, 02:53 PM
So Pollard was first. Then O’Conner. I am guessing Wasikowski or Bakich will be our next HC at some point later this week.
Coursesuper
05-28-2025, 03:00 PM
Shuttle for all the athletic department staff landing this evening getting them back from San Destin**
DownwardDawg
05-28-2025, 03:10 PM
Damn so O?Connor is not coming
Apparently not. I would have been very happy with that hire. Still want Bakich as top choice.
Lol
I love these Bert threads!!
redstickdawg
05-28-2025, 03:26 PM
Damn so O?Connor is not coming
my thoughts exactly, Bert is batting 100% again
confucius say
05-28-2025, 03:27 PM
This isn't funny anymore.
Cloak
05-28-2025, 03:29 PM
This isn't funny anymore.
Agree. It was funny the first time, now it's just played out.
KOdawg1
05-28-2025, 03:31 PM
Damn it. I was really wanting it to be O'Conner. Guess that's done now.
Turfdawg67
05-28-2025, 03:47 PM
See, I told y'all we wouldn't get O'Connor.
Bert Stare
05-28-2025, 03:54 PM
This isn't funny anymore.
Reading this is like walking in socks and finding a random wet spot.
Lighten up, Francis.
Cloak
05-28-2025, 03:55 PM
Live look at Bert -
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNmE1cHJkd2sxcWtkNzdhbWJuM2RweHJ 0dTFtMHc3dmNzMDF2cTgxeCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/81Ja1qE3lfmG4/giphy.gif
Mjoelner34
05-28-2025, 03:58 PM
https://media.tenor.com/4RD1SmseKVsAAAAM/kiss-of-death-god-father.gif
gtowndawg
05-28-2025, 04:02 PM
This isn't funny anymore.
It's run it's course for sure
Coursesuper
05-28-2025, 04:04 PM
Bert, are you sure about Starkville tomorrow? I heard the intro press conference was going to be on the pier at Baytown Wharf, with drinks and dinner after at the Ocean Club. The View was booked up so was Bud and Ally?s.
EdwardDrayton
05-28-2025, 05:00 PM
Now it surely will be Waz or Fitz. Thanks a not Bert.
Extendedcab
05-28-2025, 07:27 PM
Reading this is like walking in socks and finding a random wet spot.
Lighten up, Francis.
Bert,
This is priceless! LOL!
Dawgface
05-28-2025, 08:33 PM
So it’s Parker then….
Cowbell
05-28-2025, 09:19 PM
Bert brings as accurate of info as most on the board. Atleast it's all in good fun.
parabrave
05-28-2025, 09:46 PM
Well guess we are going to give Flight Aware plenty of clicks tomorrow. Cause everyone knows bert is never wrong.
The Federalist Engineer
05-28-2025, 09:54 PM
If you google "Brian O'Conner Virginia"
You get an On3 article that BOC is the new MSU Coach
But the link is an error. No content.
ZedFedder
05-28-2025, 10:37 PM
If you google "Brian O'Conner Virginia"
You get an On3 article that BOC is the new MSU Coach
But the link is an error. No content.
Holy crap. Like it has already been written but not published. But somehow it leaked out that way. Hmmmm
Todd4State
05-28-2025, 11:21 PM
I mean what are the odds of 247 and On3 leaking the exact same news?
viverlibre
05-29-2025, 08:07 AM
The fact that BOC and/or UVA hasn?t come out with an announcement of his staying, adds smoke to the fire.
Certainly his agent is playing all schools against each other.
gtowndawg
05-29-2025, 08:47 AM
If you google "Brian O'Conner Virginia"
You get an On3 article that BOC is the new MSU Coach
But the link is an error. No content.
I did a search for "Brian O'Connor Baseball" yesterday and one of the boxes that come up said schools and listed Mississippi State and Virgina. It's just pulling from different sources showing he's a candiate but it did catch my attention.
StateDawg44
05-29-2025, 09:25 AM
I mean what are the odds of 247 and On3 leaking the exact same news?
I mean this statement definitely has some truth to it. But we have some true buffoons as our media representatives on both those sites.
What would MSU be waiting on if our media actually knows something official?
Waiting for us to finish the regional just doesn?t make sense to me personally. Not sure how it would be any sort of distraction for the weekend when nothing said will impact the team immediately.
Cowbell
05-29-2025, 09:29 AM
I mean what are the odds of 247 and On3 leaking the exact same news?
You do realize that agents orchestrate the media. It could have even been done to get more money out of us...
Coursesuper
05-29-2025, 09:33 AM
I mean this statement definitely has some truth to it. But we have some true buffoons as our media representatives on both those sites.
What would MSU be waiting on if our media actually knows something official?
Waiting for us to finish the regional just doesn?t make sense to me personally. Not sure how it would be any sort of distraction for the weekend when nothing said will impact the team immediately.
Because there is no deal done yet. They got little parts of the story and in the rush to be first one to "get the story" almost made a mess. They are as much of a hinderance as a help.
DownwardDawg
05-29-2025, 09:34 AM
You do realize that agents orchestrate the media. It could have even been done to get more money out of us...
This. I'll get excited when the AD announces the hire.
Cowbell
05-29-2025, 09:55 AM
Bert Stare batting average is on the rise....
The Federalist Engineer
05-29-2025, 10:27 AM
Bert Stare batting average is on the rise....
Still 0%
Avery Bishop would be pissed that we are heading into a weekend with nothing official but internet creatures are making claims on X. She would say, now UVA has a chance to sharpen the pencil, TAM can fire Early, SC can fire Manure, or the wife will start googling if Starkville has a Talbots. Bob Sugar is working to screw us, right now.
https://assets.mycast.io/characters/avery-bishop-4739387-normal.jpg?1643317716
If this goes MSSTATE, we are going to end up with bitter face Rene Zelweger.
Because there is no deal done yet. They got little parts of the story and in the rush to be first one to "get the story" almost made a mess. They are as much of a hinderance as a help.
There is an agreement, but it isn't finalized yet.
Coursesuper
05-29-2025, 10:52 AM
There is an agreement, but it isn't finalized yet.
They as usual jumped he gun, we aren't home yet, but trending very positively.
They as usual jumped he gun, we aren't home yet, but trending very positively.
It will be done before the day is over from what I was told.
Thick
05-29-2025, 11:41 AM
https://x.com/petenakos_/status/1928110508202139975?s=46
State82
05-29-2025, 12:03 PM
https://x.com/petenakos_/status/1928110508202139975?s=46
Dayyyyummmm!
Cowbell
05-29-2025, 12:09 PM
This is how you dominate the portal - not so fast on the Reese hype to LSU
3dawgnight15
05-29-2025, 12:09 PM
Kiss of Death. No way it happens now ?wipes tear away?
ZedFedder
05-29-2025, 12:35 PM
If we pull O'Connor AND Mascara? Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeesh.
StarkVegasSteve
05-29-2025, 12:36 PM
It will be done before the day is over from what I was told.
Yep. EOB today is where it's trending. I doubt we see and official University release, but the big names will have it. I know they are finalizing some stuff now and working on a release. Have to get Keenum and Selmon back from Destin as well to meet with him.
Quaoarsking
05-29-2025, 12:37 PM
Anyone tracking planes for a CHO-STF flight?
StarkVegasSteve
05-29-2025, 12:39 PM
Anyone tracking planes for a CHO-STF flight?
University plane is a little tougher to track. You have to know the tail number and look on different sites.
Dawgology
05-29-2025, 12:40 PM
This is how you build a legacy, Burt. Wrong 90% of the time but write 10% when it actually counts. Never let them know you’re next move. Always keep them guessing.
Coursesuper
05-29-2025, 01:10 PM
Yep. EOB today is where it's trending. I doubt we see and official University release, but the big names will have it. I know they are finalizing some stuff now and working on a release. Have to get Keenum and Selmon back from Destin as well to meet with him.
Can confirm all of this. It is amazing what we can do when the right people get together to get things done. Kudos to the Baseball Alums and others who have put their money where their mouth is and are helping to make all this happen.
basedog
05-29-2025, 01:16 PM
Bert picking up his buddy and new Coach, I have a feeling reports for the baseball program will be much better from now on***
Big rep to Bert!
Cowbell
05-29-2025, 01:17 PM
Can confirm all of this. It is amazing what we can do when the right people get together to get things done. Kudos to the Baseball Alums and others who have put their money where their mouth is and are helping to make all this happen.
Will C. Getting more involved and being a presence midseason showed me that we were cooking with grease. This has been a long time coming and I agree on being thankful to them.
Coursesuper
05-29-2025, 01:25 PM
Will C. Getting more involved and being a presence midseason showed me that we were cooking with grease. This has been a long time coming and I agree on being thankful to them.
He's part but other parts came from other guys not so famous that have done very well for themselves. It really helps that we have a agent on our side to see us thru these things now. The majority didn't trust enough to get involved until more recently.
Brobi-wan
05-29-2025, 01:29 PM
Selmon bought a lot of goodwill today.
The Federalist Engineer
05-29-2025, 01:37 PM
https://x.com/petenakos_/status/1928110508202139975?s=46
This is so good, it feels like a mirage.
Next thing yall are going to tell me is that Coggins will be the BOC hitting coach and Kate Upton is going to dance on the dugout between innings.
DownwardDawg
05-29-2025, 01:40 PM
Selmon bought a lot of goodwill today.
We shall see. Hopefully so.
Pancho
05-29-2025, 01:42 PM
This is so good, it feels like a mirage.
Next thing yall are going to tell me is that Coggins will be the BOC hitting coach and Kate Upton is going to dance on the dugout between innings.
both would be epic
This is so good, it feels like a mirage.
Next thing yall are going to tell me is that Coggins will be the BOC hitting coach and Kate Upton is going to dance on the dugout between innings.
He's bringing Kevin McMullan with him. McMullan is one of the top hitting coaches in college baseball. He's been with Oak for around 18 years or so.
From what I've heard, the only assistant he isn't bringing with him is his pitching coach Drew Dickinson. He is apparently bringing all of his off the field staff as well. I'm curious if he brings is "Mindfulness and performance consultant."
confucius say
05-29-2025, 02:05 PM
This is so good, it feels like a mirage.
Next thing yall are going to tell me is that Coggins will be the BOC hitting coach and Kate Upton is going to dance on the dugout between innings.
Coggin isn't wanted
confucius say
05-29-2025, 02:08 PM
From what I've heard, the only assistant he isn't bringing with him is his pitching coach Drew Dickinson. He is apparently bringing all of his off the field staff as well. I'm curious if he brings is "Mindfulness and performance consultant."
Brandon Guyer. Do you think he would not bring him?
StarkVegasSteve
05-29-2025, 02:09 PM
He's bringing Kevin McMullan with him. McMullan is one of the top hitting coaches in college baseball. He's been with Oak for around 18 years or so.
The PLAN is to bring McMullan. He will get serious consideration for that HC job.
The PLAN is to bring McMullan. He will get serious consideration for that HC job.
I doubt it. He will be like a 58 year old first time head coach.
The Federalist Engineer
05-29-2025, 02:47 PM
Bumping a question from someone else:
Does having BOC repair the John Grisham situation.
BOC did give a roster spot to the Grisham's kid. It would give MSU an additional billionaire alumnus so that Adkerson and Coach34 aren't paying for everything.
StarkVegasSteve
05-29-2025, 02:57 PM
Bumping a question from someone else:
Does having BOC repair the John Grisham situation.
BOC did give a roster spot to the Grisham's kid. It would give MSU an additional billionaire alumnus so that Adkerson and Coach34 aren't paying for everything.
No because he does not get along with O’Conner either as of about the last 15 years. We also have repaired that relationship some in years past. Not saying he will be giving us any money but the relationship is better than it was in the late 90s-early 00s
Coursesuper
05-29-2025, 02:58 PM
Bumping a question from someone else:
Does having BOC repair the John Grisham situation.
BOC did give a roster spot to the Grisham's kid. It would give MSU an additional billionaire alumnus so that Adkerson and Coach34 aren't paying for everything.
Don't know about that. But I do know that many more baseball alums are more involved now than they have been in the past 20 years.
Turfdawg67
05-29-2025, 03:02 PM
No because he does not get along with O?Conner either as of about the last 15 years. We also have repaired that relationship some in years past. Not saying he will be giving us any money but the relationship is better than it was in the late 90s-early 00s
I missed all that somehow. Don't we have a John Grisham library on campus?
PGHBulldogBG
05-29-2025, 03:14 PM
Assuming this goes through and we hire BOC, we have at least fixed the baseball issue. Basketball is in solid shape with Jans, so we can let BOC and Jans do their thing. Now we can focus 100% on the big mess we created in football. If ONLY we had just hired my 1st choice in 2018 (Chris Klieman) instead of Cohen trying to be the smartest guy in the room with the Moorhead hiring we would be in great shape all over.
StarkVegasSteve
05-29-2025, 03:37 PM
I missed all that somehow. Don't we have a John Grisham library on campus?
Grisham got sideways with the university when Polk would not give his son a spot on the roster in the early 00s, and no Ben Grisham was not his son. I know Ben and he was John’s nephew but John’s son was not on the team. He got sideways with Ole Miss on the same subject. UVA needed funding at the time and Grisham was willing to cut a hell of a check. However, Grisham and O’Conner got sideways on a completely different issue about 10-12 years ago and so Grisham does not really help them in terms of funding anymore.
Coursesuper
05-29-2025, 03:39 PM
Grisham got sideways with the university when Polk would not give his son a spot on the roster in the early 00s, and no Ben Grisham was not his son. I know Ben and he was John’s nephew but John’s son was not on the team. He got sideways with Ole Miss on the same subject. UVA needed funding at the time and Grisham was willing to cut a hell of a check. However, Grisham and O’Conner got sideways on a completely different issue about 10-12 years ago and so Grisham does not really help them in terms of funding anymore.
Wasn’t Polky it was Mac. Second biggest mistake he made while he was head coach here.
Santiago
05-29-2025, 03:51 PM
Bert Stare batting average is on the rise....
Pollard announcement tomorrow then ***
Santiago
05-29-2025, 03:53 PM
Need Grisham in the outfield next year for big SEC games..... Dang let's ole miss this thing up some and promote our stars.
Pinto
05-29-2025, 03:54 PM
We are terrible in regards to legacies and helping big time alums. Should have had Grisham?s kid on the team, Palmeiro?s kid, etc.
Wayne Madkin has a daughter playing volleyball at Arkansas. I hope we did all we could to get her. We just have to be more strategical in our thinking.
StarkVegasSteve
05-29-2025, 03:55 PM
Wasn’t Polky it was Mac. Second biggest mistake he made while he was head coach here.
You are correct. It was Mac.
StarkVegasSteve
05-29-2025, 03:56 PM
Need Grisham in the outfield next year for big SEC games..... Dang let's ole miss this thing up some and promote our stars.
Well you will not have him. Again, he and O’Conner do not get along. They may be cordial but they are not friends.
Coursesuper
05-29-2025, 04:05 PM
We are terrible in regards to legacies and helping big time alums. Should have had Grisham?s kid on the team, Palmeiro?s kid, etc.
Wayne Madkin has a daughter playing volleyball at Arkansas. I hope we did all we could to get her. We just have to be more strategical in our thinking.
If you only knew. One guy that gave $$$ for the buyout and is helping with the new staff played for Polky, asked Cohen to just look at his kid, he wouldn’t and kid goes and started for Arkansas. There are so many stories of stupidity it’s unbelievable.
Santiago
05-29-2025, 04:24 PM
This UVA guy
says not so fast.
https://augustafreepress.com/news/is-uva-baseball-coach-brian-oconnor-going-anywhere-i-dont-think-so/
KOdawg1
05-29-2025, 04:27 PM
This UVA guy
says not so fast.
https://augustafreepress.com/news/is-uva-baseball-coach-brian-oconnor-going-anywhere-i-dont-think-so/
It's over. He's wrong.
Kendall Rogers doesn't put that out if it's not already official. It won't be announced by us or him until we're done this weekend, but it's over.
Cowbell
05-29-2025, 05:25 PM
Bumping a question from someone else:
Does having BOC repair the John Grisham situation.
BOC did give a roster spot to the Grisham's kid. It would give MSU an additional billionaire alumnus so that Adkerson and Coach34 aren't paying for everything.
This made me laugh out loud. Well done.
BigDawg81
05-29-2025, 05:26 PM
UVA 247 board saying they are trying to gather funds but I do not think that they can match us.
Cloak
05-29-2025, 05:29 PM
This UVA guy
says not so fast.
https://augustafreepress.com/news/is-uva-baseball-coach-brian-oconnor-going-anywhere-i-dont-think-so/
UVA guy backtracking. He asked to speak with BOC, and received this response -
"We're not making anyone available right now"
https://augustafreepress.com/news/i-asked-to-speak-with-brian-oconnor-hes-not-being-made-available-right-now/
StarkVegasSteve
05-29-2025, 05:35 PM
UVA 247 board saying they are trying to gather funds but I do not think that they can match us.
They can gather all they want. Money is not the issue and never was. They let us pitch him on funding, facilities, etc and it was over. They had their chance and were too laissez faire with it because they just figured he would stay.
Santiago
05-29-2025, 06:09 PM
UVA 247 board saying they are trying to gather funds but I do not think that they can match us.
I am horrible at trying to post gifs but I see UVA attempts as that state farm fisherman in the store dangling a dollar bill saying "I got you a dollar"
viverlibre
05-29-2025, 06:46 PM
UVA guy backtracking. He asked to speak with BOC, and received this response -
"We're not making anyone available right now"
https://augustafreepress.com/news/i-asked-to-speak-with-brian-oconnor-hes-not-being-made-available-right-now/
Was the dude on the right in the movie, "Deliverance?"
BigDawg81
05-29-2025, 06:57 PM
As far as I know, the contract still hasn’t been signed FWIW
DownwardDawg
05-29-2025, 07:24 PM
Well, it wasn't announced as the thread title states. Ol Bert..........
KOdawg1
05-29-2025, 07:48 PM
As far as I know, the contract still hasn’t been signed FWIW
Wouldn't be too sure of that...
Pancho
05-29-2025, 08:22 PM
wool
mparkerfd20
05-29-2025, 08:37 PM
Wouldn't be too sure of that...
Something was signed around noon today. That's all I know.
Activated Alpha
05-29-2025, 08:57 PM
Am I dumb with twitter or something, but I don't see Kendall's tweet anymore about the breaking news
DownwardDawg
05-29-2025, 09:15 PM
Wouldn't be too sure of that...
That would be so awesome. I hate y'all if this is all BS.
Msujd164
05-29-2025, 09:16 PM
Am I dumb with twitter or something, but I don't see Kendall's tweet anymore about the breaking news
It is still there.
KOdawg1
05-29-2025, 09:31 PM
That would be so awesome. I hate y'all if this is all BS.
Reading between the lines from Robbie, Steve, and Kendall's reporting, it seems like this is done and we're just waiting until this regional is over to announce it. They've all thrown out hints that suggest as much.
It's just being reported as "it's near the goal line" and as soon as Monday rolls around it'll be officially official.
Dawgology
05-29-2025, 10:09 PM
Reading between the lines from Robbie, Steve, and Kendall's reporting, it seems like this is done and we're just waiting until this regional is over to announce it. They've all thrown out hints that suggest as much.
It's just being reported as "it's near the goal line" and as soon as Monday rolls around it'll be officially official.
Or maybe announce tomorrow morning for non-stop coverage of it during the regional. Would be great publicity
KOdawg1
05-29-2025, 10:11 PM
Or maybe announce tomorrow morning for non-stop coverage of it during the regional. Would be great publicity
Think they're waiting out of respect for the team, but I wouldn't hate if we went ahead and got it out there.
confucius say
05-29-2025, 10:13 PM
I don't think Steve tweets what he tweeted without being told a MOU was signed.
Turfdawg67
05-29-2025, 10:44 PM
UVA guy backtracking. He asked to speak with BOC, and received this response -
"We're not making anyone available right now"
https://augustafreepress.com/news/i-asked-to-speak-with-brian-oconnor-hes-not-being-made-available-right-now/
And y?all talk about Rosey?s look. Lolz
Todd4State
05-30-2025, 12:59 AM
Think they're waiting out of respect for the team, but I wouldn't hate if we went ahead and got it out there.
If we happen to win the regional I think we should go ahead and announce it personally. I think that's the quandry we could be in right now potentially.
I really wanted Virginia to at least make a regional for timing as much as anything.
TaleofTwoDogs
05-30-2025, 02:21 AM
Didn't know that UVA had an ex OU assistant on their staff.
I don't think Steve tweets what he tweeted without being told a MOU was signed.
A text from my guy last night said "The hay is in the barn."
maroonmania
05-30-2025, 06:46 AM
If we happen to win the regional I think we should go ahead and announce it personally. I think that's the quandry we could be in right now potentially.
I really wanted Virginia to at least make a regional for timing as much as anything.
I guess I don't really get how making the announcement impacts our play on the field anyway. I mean, once the game starts our players focus will be on that. Don't see why our players and assistants can't focus on playing baseball while BOC goes ahead and starts recruiting. I mean I don't really think any of our assistants were under the illusion that they were getting the HC job and there is still some possibility that they could be retained on the new staff. So I guess I'm just not seeing it as a huge deal to make the announcement. It might even serve to fire up our players.
DawgFromOxford
05-30-2025, 07:36 AM
Didn't know that UVA had an ex OU assistant on their staff.
Selmon is out here being lazy and just hiring his friends again ***
Pancho
05-30-2025, 07:59 AM
shaping up to be a good portal summer
ZedFedder
05-30-2025, 09:06 AM
On today?s show of Thunder and Lightning, Robbie said he is 99% confident that Brian O?Connor will be State?s next HC, and he is equally as confident Muscara will be the pitching coach.
StateDawg44
05-30-2025, 09:15 AM
On today?s show of Thunder and Lightning, Robbie said he is 99% confident that Brian O?Connor will be State?s next HC, and he is equally as confident Muscara will be the pitching coach.
Well I hate to cheer for Tennessee but hopefully Wake gets bounced in regionals.
StarkVegasSteve
05-30-2025, 09:15 AM
On today?s show of Thunder and Lightning, Robbie said he is 99% confident that Brian O?Connor will be State?s next HC, and he is equally as confident Muscara will be the pitching coach.
I don't share his confidence in Muscara, I think Wake will do what it takes to keep him because they want him to take over for Walter. I do agree on O'Conner. If we weren't playing it would be announced today. But we are going to have to announce it either the day after we're eliminated or Monday due to the portal opening.
ZedFedder
05-30-2025, 09:26 AM
I don?t think he says that on Muscara unless it is a done deal.
StarkVegasSteve
05-30-2025, 09:32 AM
I don?t think he says that on Muscara unless it is a done deal.
It may be. I just have not heard that confidence from the people I have gotten the assurances on with O'Conner. They said it trending well but Wake is going to make a final run at him.
And look, IF WE GET HIM, we'd have the best staff in the country. And it wouldn't matter who the hitting coach was. Selfishly I would like to see Jake stay on as hitting coach and recruiting coordinator because he's the point guy on all our recruits and portal guys. The portal is the one place O'Conner and his staff have not been very good at all. O'Conner also doesn't recruit this area well so it is not just a plug in and immediate success thing in those regards.
Brobi-wan
05-30-2025, 09:41 AM
I get the idea from the way some of you talk that Jake loves MSU. Is that correct to assume?
It may be. I just have not heard that confidence from the people I have gotten the assurances on with O'Conner. They said it trending well but Wake is going to make a final run at him.
And look, IF WE GET HIM, we'd have the best staff in the country. And it wouldn't matter who the hitting coach was. Selfishly I would like to see Jake stay on as hitting coach and recruiting coordinator because he's the point guy on all our recruits and portal guys. The portal is the one place O'Conner and his staff have not been very good at all. O'Conner also doesn't recruit this area well so it is not just a plug in and immediate success thing in those regards.
What I heard is that Muscara isn't staying at Wake if Tom Walter is staying. They have had somewhat of a falling out. I don't see anyone buying Walter out either. Texas A&M is waiting on Alabama's season to finish to take Rob Vaughn away from them.
DownwardDawg
05-30-2025, 09:43 AM
It may be. I just have not heard that confidence from the people I have gotten the assurances on with O'Conner. They said it trending well but Wake is going to make a final run at him.
And look, IF WE GET HIM, we'd have the best staff in the country. And it wouldn't matter who the hitting coach was. Selfishly I would like to see Jake stay on as hitting coach and recruiting coordinator because he's the point guy on all our recruits and portal guys. The portal is the one place O'Conner and his staff have not been very good at all. O'Conner also doesn't recruit this area well so it is not just a plug in and immediate success thing in those regards.
That's concerning that he's not good at the portal stuff. Maybe he hasn't needed to be. Kiffin has proven in football that the portal is more important than actual on field coaching. Obviously football is far different than baseball, but talent is still king.
It may be. I just have not heard that confidence from the people I have gotten the assurances on with O'Conner. They said it trending well but Wake is going to make a final run at him.
And look, IF WE GET HIM, we'd have the best staff in the country. And it wouldn't matter who the hitting coach was. Selfishly I would like to see Jake stay on as hitting coach and recruiting coordinator because he's the point guy on all our recruits and portal guys. The portal is the one place O'Conner and his staff have not been very good at all. O'Conner also doesn't recruit this area well so it is not just a plug in and immediate success thing in those regards.
I wonder if Jake would be willing to transition to an off the field role where he works in player evaluations, recruiting, and player development.
StarkVegasSteve
05-30-2025, 09:43 AM
I get the idea from the way some of you talk that Jake loves MSU. Is that correct to assume?
Absolutely loves it. He loves it, his wife loves it, and his kids love it. There's only about 3-4 jobs that Jake would leave Mississippi St for. Texas, LSU, A&M, and Arkansas.
StarkVegasSteve
05-30-2025, 09:44 AM
I wonder if Jake would be willing to transition to an off the field role where he works in player evaluations, recruiting, and player development.
Probably not. At least not long term. You may could convince him to stay for a year, but long term you couldn't convince him. I wish like hell he'd agree to be the GM/Director of Player Development. But in talking with Jake I know he won't agree to that.
maroonmania
05-30-2025, 09:51 AM
That's concerning that he's not good at the portal stuff. Maybe he hasn't needed to be. Kiffin has proven in football that the portal is more important than actual on field coaching. Obviously football is far different than baseball, but talent is still king.
Hopefully that's mostly because he hasn't had the NIL funds to buy players out of the portal. That's mostly what the portal is when competing against similar programs. It's about what the money package is and do they have a 90% plus chance to start.
StarkVegasSteve
05-30-2025, 09:54 AM
That's concerning that he's not good at the portal stuff. Maybe he hasn't needed to be. Kiffin has proven in football that the portal is more important than actual on field coaching. Obviously football is far different than baseball, but talent is still king.
I want to believe the NIL portion is just not there and now that it will be he will be better but it's been one of my two big concerns with O'Conner.
LibraryDawg
05-30-2025, 10:08 AM
I want to believe the NIL portion is just not there and now that it will be he will be better but it's been one of my two big concerns with O'Conner.
What?s the second?
confucius say
05-30-2025, 10:12 AM
A text from my guy last night said "The hay is in the barn."
Correct.
StarkVegasSteve
05-30-2025, 10:17 AM
What?s the second?
Is he ready for this? Is he ready to be in this type of pressure cooker 24-7-365. This isn't UVA. We'll have more people at the fall ball scrimmages than they do for conference weekends. You constantly have people wanting your time. Whether that be media obligations, fans wanting pictures and autographs, speaking engagements, etc. You can't really go out in public. You have overzealous boosters who want to get close to your team.
I mean this is not a normal job. He has never been at a place like this. There's only 3-4 places like this in the country. Is he ready for that? Can he juggle all that and still have the same attention to detail he had at UVA?
HoopsDawg
05-30-2025, 10:48 AM
I want to believe the NIL portion is just not there and now that it will be he will be better but it's been one of my two big concerns with O'Conner.
It's NIL and cost of attendance at UVA. Plain and simple.
Pedrioa is King
05-30-2025, 10:57 AM
Did I notice on Virginias website that they have more of a baseball staff than ours? I?m talking numbers of people. Why is that?
StarkVegasSteve
05-30-2025, 11:02 AM
Did I notice on Virginias website that they have more of a baseball staff than ours? I?m talking numbers of people. Why is that?
We have more baseball staff but ours are listed in different places on the website. We also don't post our student managers, recruiting assts, or bullpen people.
Pedrioa is King
05-30-2025, 12:17 PM
BTW, I have a PG account and there?s plenty of high end HS talent we might could get from Virginia and Wake. They both have a few commits from Florida and up north. Here?s to snagging a few.
StarkVegasSteve
05-30-2025, 01:06 PM
So question on Muscara from someone who knows more than me. He came into a loaded staff at Wake in 23 and they were elite. No doubt about it. But the two years since, his staffs have had a 5.11 ERA and have a 4.76 ERA this year. So what is the fascination with him? Because he didn't recruit or really develop any of that 23 staff and outside of Chase Burns, who wasn't as good at Wake as he was at Tennessee, who has recruited?
Because I am sure I am just missing something because everyone thinks this guy is the best pitching coach in the country. So what makes him better than a Justin Parker?
Mjoelner34
05-30-2025, 01:12 PM
So question on Muscara from someone who knows more than me. He came into a loaded staff at Wake in 23 and they were elite. No doubt about it. But the two years since, his staffs have had a 5.11 ERA and have a 4.76 ERA this year. So what is the fascination with him? Because he didn't recruit or really develop any of that 23 staff and outside of Chase Burns, who wasn't as good at Wake as he was at Tennessee, who has recruited?
Because I am sure I am just missing something because everyone thinks this guy is the best pitching coach in the country. So what makes him better than a Justin Parker?
That's what I've been wondering. Our team ERA has been better than WF for the past 2 years.
3dawgnight15
05-30-2025, 01:35 PM
Same
basedog
05-30-2025, 01:43 PM
That's what I've been wondering. Our team ERA has been better than WF for the past 2 years.
I would not be shocked or surprised seeing Parker staying as pitching Coach. Or maybe Jake staying but not both.
StarkVegasSteve
05-30-2025, 01:45 PM
I would not be shocked or surprised seeing Parker staying as pitching Coach. Or maybe Jake staying but not both.
With how they have handled this team down the stretch, and depending what happens from here on out, I think there's a possibility that we keep both. But Jake feels more likely to stay over Parker.
MoreCowbell
05-30-2025, 01:58 PM
He's part but other parts came from other guys not so famous that have done very well for themselves. It really helps that we have an agent on our side to see us thru these things now. The majority didn't trust enough to get involved until more recently.
You are 1 of about 3 posters on here that through the years of reading I have picked up on realize you actually know things. So I feel pretty damn good right now.
BigDawg81
05-30-2025, 02:36 PM
FWIW, Steve is saying that they are still working on the contract.
StarkVegasSteve
05-30-2025, 02:44 PM
FWIW, Steve is saying that they are still working on the contract.
The terms have been agreed on. Just like yesterday. We're just finalizing contract language at this point.
MoreCowbell
05-30-2025, 02:47 PM
The terms have been agreed on. Just like yesterday. We're just finalizing contract language at this point.
Tell Brian MoreCowbell said hey when you see him and thanks for taking our job.
Saltydog
05-30-2025, 07:21 PM
Ole Bert wrong AGAIN........It may very well be BOC but it wasn't announced yesterday so he's still way below the Mendoza line........
EdwardDrayton
05-30-2025, 07:23 PM
Ole Bert wrong AGAIN........It may very well be BOC but it wasn't announced yesterday so he's still way below the Mendoza line........
He can't even SEE the Mendoza line. *****
DownwardDawg
05-30-2025, 07:35 PM
Ole Bert wrong AGAIN........It may very well be BOC but it wasn't announced yesterday so he's still way below the Mendoza line........
I'm still skeptical it's even gonna be BOC.
Cowbell
05-30-2025, 08:03 PM
Tell Brian MoreCowbell said hey when you see him and thanks for taking our job.
And not to be confused with Cowbell. Don't want to get this started on the wrong foot.
Todd4State
05-30-2025, 11:42 PM
So question on Muscara from someone who knows more than me. He came into a loaded staff at Wake in 23 and they were elite. No doubt about it. But the two years since, his staffs have had a 5.11 ERA and have a 4.76 ERA this year. So what is the fascination with him? Because he didn't recruit or really develop any of that 23 staff and outside of Chase Burns, who wasn't as good at Wake as he was at Tennessee, who has recruited?
Because I am sure I am just missing something because everyone thinks this guy is the best pitching coach in the country. So what makes him better than a Justin Parker?
I think he is really the first pitching coach to embrace using a pitching lab for development and have a lot of success doing so and having a staff that runs the lab. I guess Wake Forest is kind of the model of how to do it. I'm not sure what the issues there are now. When you are at a program like Wake Forest and you get to Omaha by doing something way out of the box and it works it's going to get a lot of attention.
Todd4State
05-30-2025, 11:55 PM
I want to believe the NIL portion is just not there and now that it will be he will be better but it's been one of my two big concerns with O'Conner.
I hope it's a resource issue as to their issues with the portal. I don't really think the portal was our major issue at all. Sure, it would have been awesome to get Skenes and Montgomery but it's to overlook guys like Ledbetter, Ace Reese, Noah Sullivan, Khal Stephen. We really haven't had too many portal busts is we look at all of the guys we got out of the portal. At least O'Connor is a good enough recruiter that he has been able to offset any portal issues. And we need to not forget that recruiting and player development is still very important even in the portal era.
To me the biggest issue we had was just playing clean fundamental baseball and if there is one thing that O'Connor's teams do well it's that. So I fully expect that to improve. And that has me the most excited about him.
Is he ready for this? Is he ready to be in this type of pressure cooker 24-7-365. This isn't UVA. We'll have more people at the fall ball scrimmages than they do for conference weekends. You constantly have people wanting your time. Whether that be media obligations, fans wanting pictures and autographs, speaking engagements, etc. You can't really go out in public. You have overzealous boosters who want to get close to your team.
I mean this is not a normal job. He has never been at a place like this. There's only 3-4 places like this in the country. Is he ready for that? Can he juggle all that and still have the same attention to detail he had at UVA?
I think he is. If this hire is finalized as expected it kind of reminds me of when Texas hired Augie Garrido who was actually older than O'Connor is now in that Garrido was at a smaller place and did well and had won NC's but then he took over the monster that is Texas and did well. Virginia has been in the spotlight many times over the years and O'Connor has handled it well. He's also grounded enough and old enough I don't think he is going to let the attention go to his head like Cann and I don't think he is going to overthink everything like Lemonis. It seems like his focus is on winning baseball number one.
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