Well Parker is 3-0/

[parabrave]

2 blowouts and an extra inning squeaker.

[ZedFedder]

Parker would have to make a huge run to even be considered but stranger things have happened.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Parker would have to make a huge run to even be considered but stranger things have happened.

He only needs to stick around, it's not a given that O'Connor, Bakich, Joe Torre, Jarrett, Maddon, Butch, or Wes Johnson are gettable. We may not want the 10th guy down the list.

Parker can win the job still. Plus, just hire a proper MLB style hitting coach, offer Elander 2x the salary to coach MSU hitting (190K to 380k). Hire a Portal Scout for Pitching. Looks like Goat is good at scouting hitters (Ledbetter, Yeager, Frei, Reece, Reeves, Stallman).

[Todd4State]

Ah so it begins.

The only way I would want Parker back would be as pitching coach. And even then my heart wouldn't be broken if we went in a different direction.

[Todd4State]

He only needs to stick around, it's not a given that O'Connor, Bakich, Joe Torre, Jarrett, Maddon, Butch, or Wes Johnson are gettable. We may not want the 10th guy down the list.

Parker can win the job still. Plus, just hire a proper MLB style hitting coach, offer Elander 2x the salary to coach MSU hitting (190K to 380k). Hire a Portal Scout for Pitching. Looks like Goat is good at scouting hitters (Ledbetter, Yeager, Frei, Reece, Reeves, Stallman).

The problem would be Elander would probably interview for the head coaching job so he likely wouldn't take the hitting coach job.

More than likely since we would be trying to interview elite hitting coaches as head coaches I think it would limit our pool somewhat for who we could hire as hitting coach. Best case scenario would be to talk Coggin in to coming back in that situation.

[The Federalist Engineer]

The problem would be Elander would probably interview for the head coaching job so he likely wouldn't take the hitting coach job.

More than likely since we would be trying to interview elite hitting coaches as head coaches I think it would limit our pool somewhat for who we could hire as hitting coach. Best case scenario would be to talk Coggin in to coming back in that situation.

Yeah, this makes sense, just saying that I don't want the Toledo, Central Michigan or the Indiana coach because a coach has to be hired. Go elite or keep Parker, might as well if Parker does a good job. Now that Shit Bucket is gone, let's see what happens.

MLB pays coaches pennies, you could offer a professional hitting coach amazing money compared to MiLB. Seems that's how ole Miss got Mangrum.

[Todd4State]

Also- and this is food for thought. We're not retaining many of these players due to graduation or the draft. Meaning this is a really good time to make a big change.

Pico- Draft
Siary- Maybe draft/maybe comeback
Ligon- - Sr.

Williams- Draft
Simmons- Phd
Hungate- Sr.

I'm sure we'll try to bring back Dotson, McPherson, and I feel pretty confident Ben Davis will be back.

C- Highfill- Portal?
C- Powell- Starkville Fire Dept.

1B- Hines- Mississippi Mud Monsters/Walnut Grove Sluggers
2B- Sanders will be back
3B- Reese- Probably back from what I have heard- loves MSU.
SS- Reeves- Sr.
SS- Cupp- Portal?

LF- Frei- Sr.
CF- Chance- Probably back
RF- Stallman- Sr.
OF- Downs- Sr.
OF- Stevens- Portal?

DH- Sullivan- Sr.

Even though we have a few guys that would be coveted in the portal there are so few of them we have a decent chance of keeping them if the new coach wants to.

[Todd4State]

Yeah, this makes sense, just saying that I don't want the Toledo, Central Michigan or the Indiana coach because a coach has to be hired. Go elite or keep Parker, might as well if Parker does a good job. Now that Shit Bucket is gone, let's see what happens.

MLB pays coaches pennies, you could offer a professional hitting coach amazing money compared to MiLB. Seems that's how ole Miss got Mangrum.

I would be completely fine if we kept Parker as pitching coach.

I honestly think we would go with Coggin before we went with a mid major coach. If that happens I think there is a very good chance we keep Parker as the pitching coach.

[Dawgface]

See y’all in Omaha. ��

[msstate7]

All these great names being thrown around... just like last time when we hired lemonis.

[R2Dawg]

See y’all in Omaha. ��

Ha, it could happen. We have the players if he pushes the right buttons.

[KB21]

I would be completely fine if we kept Parker as pitching coach.

I honestly think we would go with Coggin before we went with a mid major coach. If that happens I think there is a very good chance we keep Parker as the pitching coach.

Agree with this. If we go the assistant route, Coggin, Elander, and Cain are all above Parker.

[Pancho]

All these great names being thrown around... just like last time when we hired lemonis.

ya boy cohen isn't present to screw it up

[msudawg1200]

Ah so it begins.

The only way I would want Parker back would be as pitching coach. And even then my heart wouldn't be broken if we went in a different direction.

I knew this would happen if we started winning. Many of our fans look at the now and not the later. No, no, and no should Parker even be considered.

[EdwardDrayton]

Careful. Kentucky is not a good team.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Ah so it begins.

The only way I would want Parker back would be as pitching coach. And even then my heart wouldn't be broken if we went in a different direction.

Todd, you and I have watched these things before. And when we beat OM next weekend, who also is not a good team, the calls will grow even louder to just promote Parker.

There is a reason Selmon pulled the plug. He looked at the schedule and saw we could get on a roll. He knew we could go 6-3 or better in the last 9 and knew that the calls to keep Lemonis would be louder if we did that. He fired him at the perfect time.

[Ranchdawg]

Careful. Kentucky is not a good team.

Agree!!!

[Coursesuper]

All these great names being thrown around... just like last time when we hired lemonis.

There is one difference, John Cohen is not running this search.

[Ranchdawg]

Todd, you and I have watched these things before. And when we beat OM next weekend, who also is not a good team, the calls will grow even louder to just promote Parker.

There is a reason Selmon pulled the plug. He looked at the schedule and saw we could get on a roll. He knew we could go 6-3 or better in the last 9 and knew that the calls to keep Lemonis would be louder if we did that. He fired him at the perfect time.

Also agree! One of imo the better things that Selmon has done good. I have criticized Selmon before. This firing of Lemonis was correct. This winning streak that is going on in no way gives me no good vibes that Parker should be retained. Because I am afraid that would mean that Gotro, Cheese and other staff would be retained with Parker. Gotro should have been fired a while ago. His hitting coaching dynamics are poor imo.

[TheLostDawg]

Todd, you and I have watched these things before. And when we beat OM next weekend, who also is not a good team, the calls will grow even louder to just promote Parker.

There is a reason Selmon pulled the plug. He looked at the schedule and saw we could get on a roll. He knew we could go 6-3 or better in the last 9 and knew that the calls to keep Lemonis would be louder if we did that. He fired him at the perfect time.

This

[TheLostDawg]

There is one difference, John Cohen is not running this search.

Yes and to be fair from what I understand we had Schloss until Cohen messed it up. If that's true then you can't say we can't pull a top coach. Also with the conference shake ups, it being baseball, and revenue sharing now is a good time to move.
Hopefully they'll do what lsu coach did and pull all the good players with him

[Quaoarsking]

Hopefully we announce O'Connor (or Coggin, Elander, etc.) as the new coach before the Regionals start and the question of Parker will be moot.

[Mjoelner34]

Todd, you and I have watched these things before. And when we beat OM next weekend, who also is not a good team, the calls will grow even louder to just promote Parker......

YEP and it happens in every sport here. There were posters already talking about keeping Knox on if we had won the Egg Bowl 2 years ago. And its why Arnept was let go when he was too. It also happened with Henderson the year he took over and we went on a run.

[msstate7]

YEP and it happens in every sport here. There were posters already talking about keeping Knox on if we had won the Egg Bowl 2 years ago. And it's why Arnept was let go when he was too. It also happened with Henderson the year he took over and we went on a run.

It's not just here. In all sports when you make a mid-season fire, it's probably a 30-40% chance the interim gets the job

[StateDawg44]

It's not just here. In all sports when you make a mid-season fire, it's probably a 30-40% chance the interim gets the job

If Parker is promoted whether we win out every game this season then that?s the wrong move and not what any of us were hoping for as the end result of Lemonis being fired.

Selmon made one of the major moves he needed to this season and like others have said, it was the perfect time. We are setup to have a decent finish since it seems like some pressure has been lifted in the dugout. Don?t stumble now Selmon.

While I understand Selmon not pulling the plug on Lemonis last season it should?ve been done. But this season and how everything has played out has me much more optimistic about the future of the program than if we had rushed a hire last year. Hopefully Selmon has been planning all of this since last season and has all his ducks in a row and everyone rowing in the same direction. Big time hire for this regime and could tip a lot of people?s baseless opinions about him in his favor.

[msstate7]

I'm not stumping for Parker. I've said in another thread that promoting interims is usually a lazy way out. I am saying that if he gets to a super, he will be the HC. I have no connections, so this is obviously conjecture.

[HoopsDawg]

I'm not stumping for Parker. I've said in another thread that promoting interims is usually a lazy way out. I am saying that if he gets to a super, he will be the HC. I have no connections, so this is obviously conjecture.

Umm, no.

If we win the natty (lol), he might get the job. This is a Henderson situation. Enjoy the rest of the season.

[msstate7]

Umm, no.

If we win the natty (lol), he might get the job. This is a Henderson situation. Enjoy the rest of the season.

Yeah, forgive me for not falling for us hiring a big name again. I bought it hook line and sinker last time.

[EdwardDrayton]

Selmon made the right call making the move in season; was beginning to wonder if he has what it takes. And already we can see the benefit of it. But please don't erase a good decision with naming an interim as head coach. That would move me back to wondering if he's the right guy.

[Coursesuper]

Yeah, forgive me for not falling for us hiring a big name again. I bought it hook line and sinker last time.

Ignorance is bliss.

[msstate7]

Ignorance is bliss.

This is rich considering no one knows who will be hired. Sorta like we're all "ignorant".

[BuckyIsAB****]

Careful. Kentucky is not a good team.

Lemonis doesnt win last night

[Leroy Jenkins]

Lemonis doesnt win last night

Yup. We've lost similar type games 9 outta 10 times with Lem. (this not an endorsement of Parker)

[EdwardDrayton]

Lemonis doesnt win last night

Probably not. But Kentucky still is not a good team. And a 'permanent interim' is not what we need.

[Coursesuper]

This is rich considering no one knows who will be hired. Sorta like we're all "ignorant".

Exactly.

[Quaoarsking]

I'm not stumping for Parker. I've said in another thread that promoting interims is usually a lazy way out. I am saying that if he gets to a super, he will be the HC. I have no connections, so this is obviously conjecture.

I think we'll have already announced our new hire by then.

[msstate7]

I think we'll have already announced our new hire by then.

So we aren't after guys that will still be playing?

[Quaoarsking]

So we aren't after guys that will still be playing?

It just depends on who it is. If it's O'Connor, UVA is unlikely to make a Regional (though for reasons that aren't his fault, as I detailed in the other thread), so he can be announced as soon as the brackets are published.

If it's Coggin or Elander, we can go ahead and make the announcement early even as they stay on with their teams (Dan Mullen style).

[EdwardDrayton]

So we aren't after guys that will still be playing?

Two questions would have to be asked and answered first:

Is the target at all interested in leaving where they are currently?

If yes to the above, is the target interested in Mississippi State?

[The Federalist Engineer]

This


Todd, you and I have watched these things before. And when we beat OM next weekend, who also is not a good team, the calls will grow even louder to just promote Parker.

There is a reason Selmon pulled the plug. He looked at the schedule and saw we could get on a roll. He knew we could go 6-3 or better in the last 9 and knew that the calls to keep Lemonis would be louder if we did that. He fired him at the perfect time.

Quick poll - if we had one - nobody is stumping for Parker. But there are zero guarantees that any of our favorites take the job. So, you want an elite coach, or nothing. Getting the coach of UT-San Antonio is a disaster. Anybody that Mizzou could hire is a bad move. Like an Indiana coach.

Also, the more Parker wins the more interested that candidates will be and there won't be a mad-rush of Portal entries.

Also, with Parker winning, the Shit Bucket sympathy on-line will go-to-zero.

[parabrave]

Lemonis doesnt win last night

Lemons doesn't win today. He would've left Ligon in too long. Then he would've put Stone in instead of Davis and let Cupp get some reps in.

[Skydawg1]

This is exactly what would have happened.

[MetEdDawg]

I guess I'm shocked people aren't seriously considering Parker as a long term replacement. Some folks were calling for it last year. He's got 9 years as an assistant with qualified familiarity in the conference. Hes got way more proven coaching experience than Elander.

Guy has a serious track record as a pitching coach that develops talent. You look at the talent development on his end and you can't question what he's done at his stops developing guys. And his demeanor is pretty solid.

I guess I don't see reasons why Parker can't be successful. I see more people saying it would just be lazy and there's possibly better out there. I see O'Connor's name and yes he's got a good track record it's. He's also closer to 60 than 50 and may not make the field of 64 this year.

Henderson was 57 when he became interim. Nothing like Parker.

[KOdawg1]

Y'all are doing it again....

Parker won't be our next head coach. And he shouldn't be. C'mon people.

[KOdawg1]

I guess I don't see reasons why Parker can't be successful. I see more people saying it would just be lazy and there's possibly better out there. I see O'Connor's name and yes he's got a good track record it's. He's also closer to 60 than 50 and may not make the field of 64 this year.

He's 54 which is closer to 50 than 60.

Lemonis is 55.

Yes, Virginia might miss the NCAAT, but it'll be his 3rd time in 21 seasons.

He'd be an elite hire. Let's not try to downplay it.

[Coursesuper]

Y'all are doing it again....

Parker won't be our next head coach. And he shouldn't be. C'mon people.

Yep. This team is the playing better but there is so much more to running a program. Today’s environment is even more challenging requiring a completely different approach than the current system. This requires a major overhaul to really move things forward.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Yep. This team is the playing better but there is so much more to running a program. Today’s environment is even more challenging requiring a completely different approach than the current system. This requires a major overhaul to really move things forward.

Or, and this is a crazy thought, Kentucky just sucks. OM is slightly better and Mizzou is beyond garbage. There is a very real possibility we end the season 7-2 or better. Today was a big question mark that got answered. Because I had us losing today.

[EdwardDrayton]

Or, and this is a crazy thought, Kentucky just sucks. OM is slightly better and Mizzou is beyond garbage. There is a very real possibility we end the season 7-2 or better. Today was a big question mark that got answered. Because I had us losing today.

I have to admit, was concerned about the bullpen going into the game. But the relief guys fared much better today than expected. They weren't great but were good enough.

[Todd4State]

I guess I'm shocked people aren't seriously considering Parker as a long term replacement. Some folks were calling for it last year. He's got 9 years as an assistant with qualified familiarity in the conference. Hes got way more proven coaching experience than Elander.

Guy has a serious track record as a pitching coach that develops talent. You look at the talent development on his end and you can't question what he's done at his stops developing guys. And his demeanor is pretty solid.

I guess I don't see reasons why Parker can't be successful. I see more people saying it would just be lazy and there's possibly better out there. I see O'Connor's name and yes he's got a good track record it's. He's also closer to 60 than 50 and may not make the field of 64 this year.

Henderson was 57 when he became interim. Nothing like Parker.

We're about to undergo a complete program overhaul. The only way Parker is part of it is if the next coach wants him back as pitching coach. I'd guess there is about a 15% chance of that happening at this point.

Bobby Austin is probably more likely to be retained to be honest with you.

[Coach34]

We're about to undergo a complete program overhaul.

This seems to be the one thing constantly mentioned when I talk to people

[Coursesuper]

This seems to be the one thing constantly mentioned when I talk to people

Check your DM

[Coach34]

Check your DM

That's not the DM I was expecting. If we **** this up we really are just a poor ass school in the middle of nowhere Mississippi and deserve to just keep getting passed by

[Quaoarsking]

I see O'Connor's name and yes he's got a good track record it's. He's also closer to 60 than 50 and may not make the field of 64 this year.

...and it begins.

As I showed on the other thread, you can't blame O'Connor for this. He did his part - having a winning ACC record. There was a lot beyond his control.

[Todd4State]

That's not the DM I was expecting. If we **** this up we really are just a poor ass school in the middle of nowhere Mississippi and deserve to just keep getting passed by

Selmon deciding he is going to take this over?

[Coach34]

Coursesuper- your inbox is full. Empty it out so I can reply

[Coach34]

Selmon deciding he is going to take this over?

Money/Access is fighting baseball knowledge/MLB dawgs

[Todd4State]

Money/Access is fighting baseball knowledge/MLB dawgs

Go figure. Hopefully MLB wins. Money/Access has already royally ****ed up football and hired Cohen as AD. They need to sit this one out.

[Coursesuper]

Coursesuper- your inbox is full. Empty it out so I can reply

Just cleared it.

[BigDawg81]

I would love to have Parker? as a pitching coach

[Todd4State]

I would love to have Parker? as a pitching coach

I would be fine with that.

[SPMT]

Money/Access is fighting baseball knowledge/MLB dawgs

For 17s sake?what college can we pull for that doesn?t operative on 1950s thinking?

[Brobi-wan]

Crazy some people think access is better than winning. That’s some micro-c*ck energy.

[sandjunky]

I fully expect MSTATE to MSTATE UP this next baseball hire - the school and the people pulling the strings just can?t help themselves

[Todd4State]

For 17s sake?what college can we pull for that doesn?t operative on 1950s thinking?

I think the question we should be asking is what can we tangibly do to stop them?

I'm at the point where I don't even want their money because what's the point if they're going to **** it up.

[Coach34]

Money/Access is pushing Parker

MLB Dawgs are pushing hiring a GM/Portal Staff and fundamentally changing the program to make it Top 5

Selmon is waiting on being told what to do

[Todd4State]

Money/Access is pushing Parker

MLB Dawgs are pushing hiring a GM/Portal Staff and fundamentally changing the program to make it Top 5

Selmon is waiting on being told what to do

So basically pull for Ole Miss?

[Coach34]

But make no mistake- Selmon's job in no way depends on this baseball hire because he aint making it. He is just being told what to do

so he has no pressure

[The Federalist Engineer]

For 17s sake?what college can we pull for that doesn?t operative on 1950s thinking?

Is Access what doomed Lemons? Not losing?

Seems that access is a small ask. I would host a weekly meeting with the bonus cash guys and make them feel like GMs. Show them videos of Portal kids I like. Joke about development issues. Make the board-of-access feel like part of the family. Ask them to scout people. Give them jobs like watching Cape and SoCon games. Take them with me and ask them to inspire the boys before small games. Let them take BP with wild and electric freshmen pitchers. Wear them out with access until they are sick of it. That's what I do with micro managers, take advantage and then wear them out. I bet Vitello answers every call Payton Manning gives him. Calls him to vent and discuss strategy. Until Payton tells him, "I trust you bud, get Liam Doyle, I'll pay the NIL."

[KOdawg1]

I hate that I was born into this fandom.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Money/Access is pushing Parker

MLB Dawgs are pushing hiring a GM/Portal Staff and fundamentally changing the program to make it Top 5

Selmon is waiting on being told what to do

"Pushing Parker"

Does this mean the donators want Justin Parker as the next coach?

Just a thought, it's a smart move to push this logic to the world. You want this season to count for something and the team fight for each other. Also to counter the fake press that will hype all real and imagined candidates.

[Todd4State]

This kind of shit is exactly why I didn't want to fire Lemonis in season. What did we really get? An extra win over Kentucky? Great.

Was it really too much to wait three weeks? ****!

[Todd4State]

"Pushing Parker"

Does this mean the donators want Justin Parker as the next coach?

Just a thought, it's a smart move to push this logic to the world. You want this season to count for something and the team fight for each other. Also to counter the fake press that will hype all real and imagined candidates.

The problem is these are the same people that put Cohen in charge as AD. And then led the charge to hire Arnett.

It's all good to them though. They get their access and get to remain anonymous while things burn down because Keenum's going to take the blame for them when it doesn't work out.

Our only hope is that their track record is used against them. Which is basically 0-fer. AND that our MLB guys money is enough to offset theirs. Meaning guys like Papelbon and Will Clark might have to make some football donations soon.

[Todd4State]

Is Access what doomed Lemons? Not losing?

Seems that access is a small ask. I would host a weekly meeting with the bonus cash guys and make them feel like GMs. Show them videos of Portal kids I like. Joke about development issues. Make the board-of-access feel like part of the family. Ask them to scout people. Give them jobs like watching Cape and SoCon games. Take them with me and ask them to inspire the boys before small games. Let them take BP with wild and electric freshmen pitchers. Wear them out with access until they are sick of it. That's what I do with micro managers, take advantage and then wear them out. I bet Vitello answers every call Payton Manning gives him. Calls him to vent and discuss strategy. Until Payton tells him, "I trust you bud, get Liam Doyle, I'll pay the NIL."

Exactly. Access is not hard to grant.

[Cowbell]

I guess I'm shocked people aren't seriously considering Parker as a long term replacement. Some folks were calling for it last year. He's got 9 years as an assistant with qualified familiarity in the conference. Hes got way more proven coaching experience than Elander.

Guy has a serious track record as a pitching coach that develops talent. You look at the talent development on his end and you can't question what he's done at his stops developing guys. And his demeanor is pretty solid.

I guess I don't see reasons why Parker can't be successful. I see more people saying it would just be lazy and there's possibly better out there. I see O'Connor's name and yes he's got a good track record it's. He's also closer to 60 than 50 and may not make the field of 64 this year.

Henderson was 57 when he became interim. Nothing like Parker.

I'm with you man. People forget how big of a hire he was for us and he's the only reason we made the postseason last year and will be this year as well.

[Cowbell]

Crazy some people think access is better than winning. That’s some micro-c*ck energy.

To most people access/power is the success

[Cowbell]

Money/Access is pushing Parker

MLB Dawgs are pushing hiring a GM/Portal Staff and fundamentally changing the program to make it Top 5

Selmon is waiting on being told what to do

You can actually have both. Parker would be your pitching coach and you add a GM of player recruitment.

[Quaoarsking]

I'm with you man. People forget how big of a hire he was for us and he's the only reason we made the postseason last year and will be this year as well.

Why not try for someone who has been a head coach for years, including multiple trips to Omaha and a national title, first, and then fall back to Parker if nothing else works out? Why think small?

[HoopsDawg]

Parker is not going to be the coach. Our next coach is going to be:

1. O'Conner
2. Butch- hard to believe but very possible
3. Pollard
4. Kansas coach
5. Oregon coach

If all of that fails, it will be Elander.

[Todd4State]

Parker is not going to be the coach. Our next coach is going to be:

1. O'Conner
2. Butch- hard to believe but very possible
3. Pollard
4. Kansas coach
5. Oregon coach

If all of that fails, it will be Elander.

I've heard some other names too. But we'll see.

The only thing that is for sure is it's very much up in the air at this point.

[Todd4State]

Why not try for someone who has been a head coach for years, including multiple trips to Omaha and a national title, first, and then fall back to Parker if nothing else works out? Why think small?

Because Parker guarantees that you can hang out with the players.**

[Pancho]

true. as bad as i hate to say it

[Coursesuper]

The problem is these are the same people that put Cohen in charge as AD. And then led the charge to hire Arnett.

It's all good to them though. They get their access and get to remain anonymous while things burn down because Keenum's going to take the blame for them when it doesn't work out.

Our only hope is that their track record is used against them. Which is basically 0-fer. AND that our MLB guys money is enough to offset theirs. Meaning guys like Papelbon and Will Clark might have to make some football donations soon.

This is as close to the truth as y'all are going to see in public. These are some entitled mother17res that don't care about anything but what they want. They have a candidate they want, they are going to twist things and block things as long as it takes until it goes in their favor and the get their guy. Program be damned as long as the get their win. We Are Misitippy Tate.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Money/Access is fighting baseball knowledge/MLB dawgs

Madison Co. vs Mississippi State.....Round 2.


Hopefully we learn from what happened last time.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Exactly. Access is not hard to grant.

Or.....and this is controversial....tell them to stop being a bunch of losers who hang out with college kids and their girlfriends. Tell them to cut the GD checks and get the 17 out of the way. That's the way real programs do it. The actual money people do that. It's the 50K millionaires in our fan base who expect to be treated like multi million dollar donors.

[Mjoelner34]

It's time to start naming names so we really know who runs our athletic department if it isn't the AD.

[StarkVegasSteve]

It's time to start naming names so we really know who runs our athletic department if it isn't the AD.

Under Cohen, it was the baseball boosters and the Madison Co bros. Selmon has taken it back, but it still having to deal with them because they became so empowered under Cohen.

[Santiago]

Or.....and this is controversial....tell them to stop being a bunch of losers who hang out with college kids and their girlfriends. Tell them to cut the GD checks and get the 17 out of the way. That's the way real programs do it. The actual money people do that. It's the 50K millionaires in our fan base who expect to be treated like multi million dollar donors.

Someone remind them that being a millionaire is just like being the tallest little person(PC terminology).
Now deca and higher millionaires that actually donate more....we maybe need treat differently.

[Cooterpoot]

This kind of shit is exactly why I didn't want to fire Lemonis in season. What did we really get? An extra win over Kentucky? Great.

Was it really too much to wait three weeks? ****!

WTF Todd? Every 17ng body is glad Lemongead is gone. Parker ain't getting this job unless he wins the CWS.
Spoiler: He won't win it

[ScooterDog]

If the new coach turns out bad, they are going to blame it on the Search Committee. A very politically correct good move on their part, don?t you think? I am hoping that they actually greatly consider the search committee prospects.

[StarkVegasSteve]

If the new coach turns out bad, they are going to blame it on the Search Committee. A very politically correct good move on their part, don?t you think? I am hoping that they actually greatly consider the search committee prospects.

The Parker Group, the firm we are using, is very reputable. They also don't make the choices. They just go find the candidates and then it's up the AD and whoever is helping on the committee to interview and whatnot. The only thing The Parker Group is really doing is vetting stuff for us. They'll compile an initial list, probably 25-30 candidates and will start vetting them. The people that Selmon has around him helping him with this will then go over those results with The Parker Group and narrow that list down to 8-10 names and that is where the search begins in earnest.

[maroonmania]

The problem is these are the same people that put Cohen in charge as AD. And then led the charge to hire Arnett.

It's all good to them though. They get their access and get to remain anonymous while things burn down because Keenum's going to take the blame for them when it doesn't work out.

Our only hope is that their track record is used against them. Which is basically 0-fer. AND that our MLB guys money is enough to offset theirs. Meaning guys like Papelbon and Will Clark might have to make some football donations soon.

Yep, and unfortunately there isn't a slam dunk #1 candidate out there for the job now like there was when Byrne hired Cohen. There are a lot of ways this can go so this could definitely get screwed up by the same folks that screwed us over with the Cohen pick as AD and the Arnett pick to be elevated as football HC. I could absolutely see these same folks pushing for Parker over a 4 game sample size especially if they think they already have a relationship with him that they want to hold on to.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Yep, and unfortunately there isn't a slam dunk #1 candidate out there for the job now like there was when Byrne hired Cohen. There are a lot of ways this can go so this could definitely get screwed up by the same folks that screwed us over with the Cohen pick as AD and the Arnett pick to be elevated as football HC. I could absolutely see these same folks pushing for Parker over a 4 game sample size especially if they think they already have a relationship with him that they want to hold on to.

It's not the relationship with Parker they care about. It's the relationship with Jake and Kyle. They see them out and buy them drinks or invite them to the Scoreboard Club for football and let them drink their alcohol so they'll let them in on stuff. Not anything big but just how the players are progressing. Then when they go to these scrimmages and stuff they already have a built in connection with the coaches so they let them around the players.

[Coursesuper]

The Parker Group, the firm we are using, is very reputable. They also don't make the choices. They just go find the candidates and then it's up the AD and whoever is helping on the committee to interview and whatnot. The only thing The Parker Group is really doing is vetting stuff for us. They'll compile an initial list, probably 25-30 candidates and will start vetting them. The people that Selmon has around him helping him with this will then go over those results with The Parker Group and narrow that list down to 8-10 names and that is where the search begins in earnest.

This began two months ago. They're well into it now.

[Santiago]

Ideally, announce the coach hire as soon as that coach's season is over. If somehow we are still playing , then announce it anyway. It stops the promotion chatter.
But I am not sure if it helps us on getting to the final candidate with so much interference of alumni.

[Quaoarsking]

Ideally, announce the coach hire as soon as that coach's season is over. If somehow we are still playing , then announce it anyway. It stops the promotion chatter.
But I am not sure if it helps us on getting to the final candidate with so much interference of alumni.

Bingo. If we announce O'Connor as our new coach the day after the brackets are announced (assuming UVA doesn't make through no fault of O'Connor), then we can all rally around the new coach, and if Parker can make noise in the postseason, cool.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Bingo. If we announce O'Connor as our new coach the day after the brackets are announced (assuming UVA doesn't make through no fault of O'Connor), then we can all rally around the new coach, and if Parker can make noise in the postseason, cool.

Which is what we should've done in 18 and Schloss would've been our coach.

[Quaoarsking]

Which is what we should've done in 18 and Schloss would've been our coach.

Hopefully there are people left in the AD who remember that and will make sure we don't repeat that mistake.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Hopefully there are people left in the AD who remember that and will make sure we don't repeat that mistake.

I hope there's no one remaining in the athletic dept from that time. That AD staff is the reason we're in all these athletic messes to begin with from meddling boosters, behind in NIL, no consistent messaging, etc.

[Cooterpoot]

Anyone worrying about certain boosters are worrying about absolutely nothing. It's all silly talk and pointless. This hire won't be a current staffer short of a CWS championship and I'm not sure that will even matter if certain coaches want this job

[The Federalist Engineer]

WTF Todd? Every 17ng body is glad Lemongead is gone. Parker ain't getting this job unless he wins the CWS.
Spoiler: He won't win it

You owe it to the players, parents, ticket holders, SEC good faith, the MSU brand, and Elite Dawgs to fight for the season. Tanking seasons or the last 60 games is something that people hate about MLB.

Parker has a little streak going, yeah he's beaten nobody big, but this spark is valuable for the MSU brand. The reason players like Jake Mangum played 4 years and donated his scholarship is because the season matters. Winning the OM series matters.

[KB21]

https://augustafreepress.com/news/rumor-mill-mississippi-state-targeting-uva-baseball-coach-brian-oconnor/


The talk around the athletics department is that there is legitimate reason for concern that O’Connor might be willing to listen to the people down in Starkville.

Word has been circulating since the fall that O’Connor, who is in his 22nd season at Virginia, is frustrated with a lack of commitment from UVA Athletics to use money from the $20.5 million that the House settlement will authorize to go toward compensation for his ballplayers.

I’ve not seen anything formal on this, but the word circulating behind the scenes is that UVA Athletics is planning to use 95 percent of the total that it can dole out under House to football and men’s basketball, with the other varsity sports getting crumbs.

[KB21]

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/georgia-becomes-fifth-team-to-claim-no-1-in-2025-college-baseball-top-25/

Article on Wes Johnson and what he's done to elevate Georgia baseball over his two seasons.

[BigDawg81]

If we hire pick Justin Parker, I will take my fandom somewhere else.

[Todd4State]

https://augustafreepress.com/news/rumor-mill-mississippi-state-targeting-uva-baseball-coach-brian-oconnor/

This seems like a warning shot from O'Conner to Virginia. Give baseball money or I'm gone.

We'll see whose bluff gets called here.

[The Federalist Engineer]

The agent commissioned this article for Fund Raising. Feels like O'Conner is using MSU like MacDonnell in 2018. "Give me resources or I walk".

Someone remind me the last time a coach walked for this reason. He could have left for the mother-lodes of NIL in Austin or College Station just last year.

[Todd4State]

The agent commissioned this article for Fund Raising. Feels like O'Conner is using MSU like MacDonnell in 2018. "Give me resources or I walk".

Someone remind me the last time a coach walked for this reason. He could have left for the mother-lodes of NIL in Austin or College Station just last year.

Could he? It seemed like A&M hired Early because the players threatened to leave if he wasn't hired. Would be very surprised if that happens at MSU. Otherwise O'Conner would be at A&M now.

Since you mentioned it Polk left Georgia Southern because of a lack of commitment. Now he was an assistant at Miami in the fall but became our coach that fall after Bragan left.

Sure it's happened other times too.

[Cowbell]

The fact that O'Connor was mentioned so quickly by Kendall and other prominent members of the baseball media should be a red flag that this is for fund raising. I can't believe so many of our fans still buy in to this repetitive process that is so glaringly apparent.

[Todd4State]

The fact that O'Connor was mentioned so quickly by Kendall and other prominent members of the baseball media should be a red flag that this is for fund raising. I can't believe so many of our fans still buy in to this repetitive process that is so glaringly apparent.

He's definitely calling Virginia's bluff. We'll see if they blink.

That said, this search is just beginning. It may not be O'Conner. If you asked me for a guess my guess is it won't be him.

At the same time I could see a situation where Virginia says we're focusing on football, basketball and lacrosse which I think is pretty big there- similar to baseball at MSU. And if O'Conner doesn't have resources there anymore he knows that their program is done and he is done. If that happens I could totally see him coming to MSU where he has more resources and commitment.

We're just in the midst of things happening and it's not going to be settled until the CWS IMO.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Could he? It seemed like A&M hired Early because the players threatened to leave if he wasn't hired. Would be very surprised if that happens at MSU. Otherwise O'Conner would be at A&M now.

Since you mentioned it Polk left Georgia Southern because of a lack of commitment. Now he was an assistant at Miami in the fall but became our coach that fall after Bragan left.

Sure it's happened other times too.

Comon man, GSU resources in the 1970s would be a new net for the batting cage and a new washing machine for home games. MSU probably matched the Net, had multiple hand-me-down washing machines from Football, and gave Polk his own personal typewriter.

Today, UVA is being pressed for multiple Millions for NIL. UVA business and Law School alumni will raise the money. Now that it's do-or-die, they'll pay up.

[Coach34]

I dont see Virginia abandoning their baseball program either.

My 1st instinct is we are getting blue-balled again like we did with Schloss

[Todd4State]

Comon man, GSU resources in the 1970s would be a new net for the batting cage and a new washing machine for home games. MSU probably matched the Net, had multiple hand-me-down washing machines from Football, and gave Polk his own personal typewriter.

Today, UVA is being pressed for multiple Millions for NIL. UVA business and Law School alumni will raise the money. Now that it's do-or-die, they'll pay up.

We'll see because the reality is so far Virginia has already made it clear to O'Conner that they prioritize lacrosse over baseball and he has been open to leaving after years of loyalty.

If he comes to MSU he isn't going to have to compete for money or support.

I could definitely see the appeal of coming here from his standpoint.

[Coursesuper]

I dont see Virginia abandoning their baseball program either.

My 1st instinct is we are getting blue-balled again like we did with Schloss

Have to think that is the case here.

[Cooterpoot]

I dont see Virginia abandoning their baseball program either.

My 1st instinct is we are getting blue-balled again like we did with Schloss

They already have, money promised to baseball went to damn Lacrosse. Virginia is woke as hell & pushing money to women's stuff too.
I'd say we've got a legit shot there but with Wes possibly showing interest too (not really sold we can do that), I'd take either. I'm not a fan of the other options as far as the HC guys go. Fitzgerald is mid at best and Walter looks washed. Bakich doesn't look like a real option.

[Coach34]

It may happen but I doubt either ends up in StarkVegas. I expect our 7th choice to get the job just like last time.

We just turned away our MLB Dawgs and said we gonna go it alone. Ok- u just turned down millions. Interesting strategy Cotten

[Cooterpoot]

It may happen but I doubt either ends up in StarkVegas. I expect our 7th choice to get the job just like last time.

We just turned away our MLB Dawgs and said we gonna go it alone. Ok- u just turned down millions. Interesting strategy Cotten

I don't think so. We could get Fitzgerald tomorrow and Walter wouldn't be that hard to pull either.

[sandjunky]

It may happen but I doubt either ends up in StarkVegas. I expect our 7th choice to get the job just like last time.

We just turned away our MLB Dawgs and said we gonna go it alone. Ok- u just turned down millions. Interesting strategy Cotten
So the access boys won out?

[Cooterpoot]

So the access boys won out?

Nope, All this stuff was fabricated BS

[Coach34]

So the access boys won out?

Yes- we shut the door on a group of MLB Dawgs that wanted to set up structure and infuse about 5MM dollars into the program. We have chosen to go another route. Good luck

[maroonmania]

It's not the relationship with Parker they care about. It's the relationship with Jake and Kyle. They see them out and buy them drinks or invite them to the Scoreboard Club for football and let them drink their alcohol so they'll let them in on stuff. Not anything big but just how the players are progressing. Then when they go to these scrimmages and stuff they already have a built in connection with the coaches so they let them around the players.

Yea, makes sense. Gotro and Cheese have been here for the full 7 years of Lemonis and Gotro before that. Parker is the new kid on the block. The question would be, if Parker got the job, would either of those guys be retained?

[SPMT]

Yes- we shut the door on a group of MLB Dawgs that wanted to set up structure and infuse about 5MM dollars into the program. We have chosen to go another route. Good luck

If that?s truly the case then we are clueless.

Who do I switch my baseball fandom to?

I like Clemson colors. Bama, LSU, Tenn?.. who is serious?

[The Federalist Engineer]

We'll see because the reality is so far Virginia has already made it clear to O'Conner that they prioritize lacrosse over baseball and he has been open to leaving after years of loyalty.

If he comes to MSU he isn't going to have to compete for money or support.

I could definitely see the appeal of coming here from his standpoint.

If you are right, I win.

I would love to have O'Conner.

This feels like a Kirk Presley, Doug Buckles, Cam Newton, Othella Harrington, Blaze Jordan, Roy Oswalt, Schloss, "Texas QB", Paul Skenes ... disappointment, hustle job, or media chiseling

Because Bert Stare hasn't mentioned O'Conner, the possibility is non Zero. Is Gene saying "O'Conner"?

[Todd4State]

If you are right, I win.

I would love to have O'Conner.

This feels like a Kirk Presley, Doug Buckles, Cam Newton, Othella Harrington, Blaze Jordan, Roy Oswalt, Schloss, "Texas QB", Paul Skenes ... disappointment, hustle job, or media chiseling

Because Bert Stare hasn't mentioned O'Conner, the possibility is non Zero. Is Gene saying "O'Conner"?

I mean I think we all win. For me it wouldn't be that disappointing because I think we have a lot of other good options out there. I don't think this is O'Conner or bust.

The only way I would be disappointed is if we just promoted Parker or if we hired Elander. Because both would be lazy picks and both are not likely to work out.

[DownwardDawg]

If that?s truly the case then we are clueless.

Who do I switch my baseball fandom to?

I like Clemson colors. Bama, LSU, Tenn?.. who is serious?
LSU is the only choice. If you are going to switch, go with the best. I can't stand them but they are going to continue to win multiple more CWS championships.

[DownwardDawg]

Nope, All this stuff was fabricated BS

This is what I think too. I don't believe any of the rumors I've read about this search and our baseball program.
We'll hire Butch or Parker, Elander, Coggin. And any of those will be better than Lemonis.

[Cooterpoot]

This is what I think too. I don't believe any of the rumors I've read about this search and our baseball program.
We'll hire Butch or Parker, Elander, Coggin. And any of those will be better than Lemonis.

I'm not sure we'll hire any of those guys or anyone else, but right now, I'd bet we hire a sitting head coach not named Butch, and there's almost no way Parker gets this job. Again, that's just based on the limited info because we don't know who is playing the pay raise and mo money game with the process.

[BigDawg81]

This


I'm not sure we'll hire any of those guys or anyone else, but right now, I'd bet we hire a sitting head coach not named Butch, and there's almost no way Parker gets this job. Again, that's just based on the limited info because we don't know who is playing the pay raise and mo money game with the process.
Fitzgerald seems like a hire that we make. Similarities to Lemonis at Indiana

[Turfdawg67]

Comon man, GSU resources in the 1970s would be a new net for the batting cage and a new washing machine for home games. MSU probably matched the Net, had multiple hand-me-down washing machines from Football, and gave Polk his own personal typewriter.

Today, UVA is being pressed for multiple Millions for NIL. UVA business and Law School alumni will raise the money. Now that it's do-or-die, they'll pay up.

Lol. 100%

We’re in for a letdown, as usual.

[KB21]

I'm not sure how Dan Fitzgerald is similar to Lemonis. Lemonis took over an Indiana program that had gone to Omaha after Tracey Smith left Indiana for Arizona State. Dan Fitzgerald took over a program that has never done anything and has them in position to win the Big 12.

[KB21]

I think the top 5 for this job right now are in some order:

Brian O'Connor/Virginia
Wes Johnson/Georgia
Tom Walter/Wake Forest
Butch Thompson/Auburn
Skip Johnson/Oklahoma

[Coach34]

I think the top 5 for this job right now are in some order:

Brian O'Connor/Virginia
Wes Johnson/Georgia
Tom Walter/Wake Forest
Butch Thompson/Auburn
Skip Johnson/Oklahoma

If Va ponies up we wont get any of those guys

[KB21]

https://x.com/BacksideGB/status/1919541974979293265

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GqOVQGuXkAAgLaI?format=jpg&name=large

[Quaoarsking]

Assuming they make it this year, it will be Walter's 6th NCAA appearance in 14 seasons at Wake Forest.

I get there are recruiting difficulties there, but it sure feels like it would be an underwhelming hire when we've been talking about O'Connor for the last week.

[Goldendawg]

Do you guys think interviews have begun? Our pastor told me his personal friend, Coggin has already interviewed. A pastor can't lie, especially in church?***

[StarkVegasSteve]

Do you guys think interviews have begun? Our pastor told me his personal friend, Coggin has already interviewed. A pastor can't lie, especially in church?***

I'm sure we've had talks with agents and maybe even a couple of assts. I highly doubt though that we have sat down with a sitting P4 HC as of yet, unless we sat down with Mingione this past weekend.

[Coursesuper]

Assuming they make it this year, it will be Walter's 6th NCAA appearance in 14 seasons at Wake Forest.

I get there are recruiting difficulties there, but it sure feels like it would be an underwhelming hire when we've been talking about O'Connor for the last week.

This is why these things are so frustrating, our people so easily get locked in on the first guy mentioned out of the desire for our program to succeed. And when we do make a hire that's not that guy no matter what his qualifications they feel the guy is a let down. This puts the guy behind the 8 ball from the jump. Wake is 12-12 in the ACC and 32-16 overall. Currently a 2 seed projection all at a school with less than 5000 students. He may be a great hire if its him, and he may be the one if he's big enough for the job, because as far as college baseball goes our job is a monster.

[StarkVegasSteve]

This is why these things are so frustrating, our people so easily get locked in on the first guy mentioned out of the desire for our program to succeed. And when we do make a hire that's not that guy no matter what his qualifications they feel the guy is a let down. This puts the guy behind the 8 ball from the jump. Wake is 12-12 in the ACC and 32-16 overall. Currently a 2 seed projection all at a school with less than 5000 students. He may be a great hire if its him, and he may be the one if he's big enough for the job, because as far as college baseball goes our job is a monster.

I think I had even said that in one of the previous threads. It's when O'Conner's name first got mentioned. I could already see people getting latched on to THAT being the hire.

[Quaoarsking]

This is why these things are so frustrating, our people so easily get locked in on the first guy mentioned out of the desire for our program to succeed. And when we do make a hire that's not that guy no matter what his qualifications they feel the guy is a let down. This puts the guy behind the 8 ball from the jump. Wake is 12-12 in the ACC and 32-16 overall. Currently a 2 seed projection all at a school with less than 5000 students. He may be a great hire if its him, and he may be the one if he's big enough for the job, because as far as college baseball goes our job is a monster.

I think his record at Wake Forest (below .500 in career ACC games, missed more Regionals than made them) would still be underwhelming even if O'Connor's name had never been mentioned.

If he's the guy, I'll give him a chance and maybe he'll turn out to be great, but we absolutely should be aiming higher as one of the few schools that cares about having an elite baseball program.

[Coursesuper]

I think his record at Wake Forest (below .500 in career ACC games, missed more Regionals than made them) would still be underwhelming even if O'Connor's name had never been mentioned.

If he's the guy, I'll give him a chance and maybe he'll turn out to be great, but we absolutely should be aiming higher as one of the few schools that cares about having an elite baseball program.

I understand where you are coming from, that makes sense on the surface. What did he take over, what are his recourses, how long did it take him to build the program, etc. I'm sure that there is more to it than just a cursory look at records. Anyway this dance started before Lemonis was let go, if we don't get in each others way and don't have to many dick measuring contest thru this we may end up with the right guy. I hope so this is a critical hire for the program at a critical time.

[Cowbell]

He's definitely calling Virginia's bluff. We'll see if they blink.

That said, this search is just beginning. It may not be O'Conner. If you asked me for a guess my guess is it won't be him.

At the same time I could see a situation where Virginia says we're focusing on football, basketball and lacrosse which I think is pretty big there- similar to baseball at MSU. And if O'Conner doesn't have resources there anymore he knows that their program is done and he is done. If that happens I could totally see him coming to MSU where he has more resources and commitment.

We're just in the midst of things happening and it's not going to be settled until the CWS IMO.

This search is not just beginning. This has been in motion for almost a year.

Again - get your mind off O'Connor. The fact he was mentioned so quickly should immediately put him low in odds to get the job. Kendall is the Bert Stare of Twitter until it is a done deal. He makes his money by making others money.

[Cowbell]

I'm sure we've had talks with agents and maybe even a couple of assts. I highly doubt though that we have sat down with a sitting P4 HC as of yet, unless we sat down with Mingione this past weekend.

Trust me when I tell you this has been in motion for a while...

[Todd4State]

This search is not just beginning. This has been in motion for almost a year.

Again - get your mind off O'Connor. The fact he was mentioned so quickly should immediately put him low in odds to get the job. Kendall is the Bert Stare of Twitter until it is a done deal. He makes his money by making others money.

Oh I don't have my mind set on any coach. This could and will go in a lot of different directions and I would say the odds of it being someone that isn't getting mentioned a ton is high.

[Pancho]

I agree and Selmon is doing a nice job of keeping everyone off the scent of what is happening.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I agree and Selmon is doing a nice job of keeping everyone off the scent of what is happening.

Zac did a hell of a job with the football hire in terms of the hiring process. He played it extremely close to the vest until the hire was made. Things do not get out of his circle of trust. I would expect the same group of Zac, Joey Bailey, and a few high ups will play this one the same way.

[Coursesuper]

I agree and Selmon is doing a nice job of keeping everyone off the scent of what is happening.

Selmon is doing what he is told on this one gents.

[Brobi-wan]

Selmon is doing what he is told on this one gents.

Is that good or bad?

[Coursesuper]

Is that good or bad?

We’re all gonna find out aren’t we.

[basedog]

I saw where Wes Johnson said he has no plans on being in Starkville. Nothing strange about that comment while his team is still playing. When he took the job at Georgia, I never thought much about him being a HC, well I was wrong, I hope there is interest, and he is interested. Same for the Virgina HC, hope he is interested, either would be an upgrade.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I saw where Wes Johnson said he has no plans on being in Starkville. Nothing strange about that comment while his team is still playing. When he took the job at Georgia, I never thought much about him being a HC, well I was wrong, I hope there is interest, and he is interested. Same for the Virgina HC, hope he is interested, either would be an upgrade.

I still think there's probably more of a chance with BOC than Wes. Now, a week ago I would have said there's less than a 0% chance Wes comes to Starkville. It sounds like that door is cracked more than originally thought.

[The Federalist Engineer]

I saw where Wes Johnson said he has no plans on being in Starkville. Nothing strange about that comment while his team is still playing. When he took the job at Georgia, I never thought much about him being a HC, well I was wrong, I hope there is interest, and he is interested. Same for the Virgina HC, hope he is interested, either would be an upgrade.

I like this comment better than "if my college does not invest in Baseball, then I need to look at my options."

One guy is respecting his employer and the other is a chiseler.

[Coach34]

I still think there's probably more of a chance with BOC than Wes. Now, a week ago I would have said there's less than a 0% chance Wes comes to Starkville. It sounds like that door is cracked more than originally thought.

I may be wrong but I think Mini-Me is going for a payraise. BOC is more likely because he isnt getting things he needs. And make no mistake- if BOC gets some of what he is asking for- he will stay there. Va has a choice to make in the next couple weeks on the future of their program

[cheewgumm]

I like them being forced to give raises. That?s good.

If that is happening.

[Todd4State]

I still think there's probably more of a chance with BOC than Wes. Now, a week ago I would have said there's less than a 0% chance Wes comes to Starkville. It sounds like that door is cracked more than originally thought.

And I will say this about Wes. He was only here for a short time and really didn't get a chance to fully implement his pitching program. I think a lot of the injuries were due to him having to rush his program and I think there was some miscommunication between Wes and the S&C staff too.

Would be curious to see if he brings Will and Ammo with him. Could make Will the assistant head coach potentially.

[StarkVegasSteve]

And I will say this about Wes. He was only here for a short time and really didn't get a chance to fully implement his pitching program. I think a lot of the injuries were due to him having to rush his program and I think there was some miscommunication between Wes and the S&C staff too.

Would be curious to see if he brings Will and Ammo with him. Could make Will the assistant head coach potentially.

He wouldn't bring Will. My guess is that they'd promote Will and it'd be a fight for who got Ammo. If we went the asst route and hired Coggin, I would expect Ammo comes with him.

Not advocating for hiring Will or anything. Just passing along the info I've gotten

[Todd4State]

He wouldn't bring Will. My guess is that they'd promote Will and it'd be a fight for who got Ammo. If we went the asst route and hired Coggin, I would expect Ammo comes with him.

Not advocating for hiring Will or anything. Just passing along the info I've gotten

If we hired Wes and Coggin gets promoted that isn't the worst thing in the world. I suspect that Wes will be a candidate for Arkansas when Dave Van Horn retires. Coggin with head coaching experience waiting to take over the reigns seems like a good thing for us. If it plays out.

[Cowbell]

Zac did a hell of a job with the football hire in terms of the hiring process. He played it extremely close to the vest until the hire was made. Things do not get out of his circle of trust. I would expect the same group of Zac, Joey Bailey, and a few high ups will play this one the same way.

Agree with this. This had been in the works a while and I'm impressed.

[SPMT]

I like this comment better than "if my college does not invest in Baseball, then I need to look at my options."

One guy is respecting his employer and the other is a chiseler.

I used to think that way in an employer/employee relationship but that goes both ways. It?s a two way street.

These guys can?t do anything about people mentioning their names. If they aren?t getting what they need to compete then they should t shutdown possible rumors and neither would I.

[Coach34]

You guys are some of the very few impressed with the football hire. We went in saying we wanted someone with HC'ing experience and came out with a coordinator from his previous school that had a worse season than what we fired. We are in Y2 and just making a bowl game is very iffy still.

[Todd4State]

You guys are some of the very few impressed with the football hire. We went in saying we wanted someone with HC'ing experience and came out with a coordinator from his previous school that had a worse season than what we fired. We are in Y2 and just making a bowl game is very iffy still.

If we still had Arnett we would have just fired him for driving through the Starkville Wendy's naked. Arnett was the worst coach I have ever seen at MSU and our program wasn't going anywhere until we fired him. Lebby has had to clean up his mess.

[Coach34]

If we still had Arnett we would have just fired him for driving through the Starkville Wendy's naked. Arnett was the worst coach I have ever seen at MSU and our program wasn't going anywhere until we fired him. Lebby has had to clean up his mess.

I'm in no way saying we should have kept Arnett. But I am saying nothing has been impressive about Lebby to this point. Best thing he has done so far is land a legacy QB that most State coaches would have signed.

[KB21]

I'm in no way saying we should have kept Arnett. But I am saying nothing has been impressive about Lebby to this point. Best thing he has done so far is land a legacy QB that most State coaches would have signed.

LOL! You still can't get over the fact that Arnett and his RTGDFB ways sucked, and you will never admit that the situation Jeff Lebby inherited from Arnett was basically the worst situation in all of P4 football.

[basedog]

I'm in no way saying we should have kept Arnett. But I am saying nothing has been impressive about Lebby to this point. Best thing he has done so far is land a legacy QB that most State coaches would have signed.

Lebby had no chance with what was "gifted" or left with the mess Arnett created. Come on 34, you were all in 100% sure of Arnett and staff. In saying this, it is a wait and see on what Lebby can do, our tradition sucks and we have had two really good coaches in my lifetime as a Msu fan and graduate, JWS and DM, I suppose I should put Leach as the the third as he at least produced better than most Coaches.
I agree with Todd, Arnett was the worse HC ever at Msu! At least Leach left him with some talent.

[Coach34]

Come on 34, you were all in 100% sure of Arnett and staff.

I supported them. I would have supported Bobby Hall as HC after 3 tortuous years of The Airbone

[sandjunky]

BOC says no dice / he?s got future support at UVA

[EdwardDrayton]

BOC says no dice / he?s got future support at UVA

And the beat goes on. Always a bridesmaid, never a bride. But we've always known that and we'll always know that. <sigh>

[Quaoarsking]

BOC says no dice / he?s got future support at UVA

Sure hope that's just coachspeak or else the hire is a disappointment.

[Cowbell]

You guys are some of the very few impressed with the football hire. We went in saying we wanted someone with HC'ing experience and came out with a coordinator from his previous school that had a worse season than what we fired. We are in Y2 and just making a bowl game is very iffy still.

Who are you talking about with "you guys". I told everyone before we hired Lebby that the OU faithful wanted him out of there as my inlaws are boosters there. Thankfully they got humbled this past year.

[HoopsDawg]

I'm in no way saying we should have kept Arnett. But I am saying nothing has been impressive about Lebby to this point. Best thing he has done so far is land a legacy QB that most State coaches would have signed.

We moved the ball with a true freshman QB and a crappy Oline. The team never quit on him. And he has been working his ass off this offseason in the portal. That's 3 positives.

[Cowbell]

Lebby had no chance with what was "gifted" or left with the mess Arnett created. Come on 34, you were all in 100% sure of Arnett and staff. In saying this, it is a wait and see on what Lebby can do, our tradition sucks and we have had two really good coaches in my lifetime as a Msu fan and graduate, JWS and DM, I suppose I should put Leach as the the third as he at least produced better than most Coaches.
I agree with Todd, Arnett was the worse HC ever at Msu! At least Leach left him with some talent.

Base - I enjoy your wisdom on this board. But Arnett didn't create any mess. That was Moorhead/Cohen/keenum that created it. Leach didn't help it. And neither did Arnett.

[Cowbell]

BOC says no dice / he?s got future support at UVA

And like I tried telling everyone - it was only a red flag that he was mentioned so quick. We have been a part of so many coaching searches the last decade that everyone here should have known what that was about. Kendall should give ED some commission for pushing his narratives.

[sandjunky]

I tried to get us back on the rails but here we are

[DownwardDawg]

If we still had Arnett we would have just fired him for driving through the Starkville Wendy's naked. Arnett was the worst coach I have ever seen at MSU and our program wasn't going anywhere until we fired him. Lebby has had to clean up his mess.

Arnett made Croom look like Saban.

[Coach34]

Arnett made Croom look like Saban.

Arnett won 5 games. That’s 2 seasons for Crooms

[basedog]

Base - I enjoy your wisdom on this board. But Arnett didn't create any mess. That was Moorhead/Cohen/keenum that created it. Leach didn't help it. And neither did Arnett.

Thanks and I can agree with what u r saying. But Arnett had really bad assistants and he wasn't close to being ready as HC.
Glad it only took one year. I have not a clue how it's gonna go for Lebby but I think he has been working his butt of in recruiting and portal. I just hope we can get the players coached up.

[Leroy Jenkins]

One thing we've learned over the years. The first names that "leak" out are smokescreens.

[Coursesuper]

I tried to get us back on the rails but here we are

Tried to talk them 2 pages ago, but like you said, “here we are”, again.

[Todd4State]

And like I tried telling everyone - it was only a red flag that he was mentioned so quick. We have been a part of so many coaching searches the last decade that everyone here should have known what that was about. Kendall should give ED some commission for pushing his narratives.

I'm not surprised that Virginia stepped up. I'm glad that it's happening now and not 4-5 weeks from now.

Like Schlossnagle.

[Todd4State]

One thing we've learned over the years. The first names that "leak" out are smokescreens.

Yep. And it's usually not the obvious MSU guy with connections either- so it's probably not Coggin either.

[DownwardDawg]

Arnett won 5 games. That’s 2 seasons for Crooms

Lmao. Arnett almost destroyed the program in record time. He would have never sniffed a bowl.
Croom absolutely sucked, but was 100 times better than Arnett.
Croom went to a bowl.
Croom beat Bama twice, including a win over Saban.
Croom left a pretty decent team for Mullen.

Arnett did absolutely NOTHING positive.

[DownwardDawg]

One thing we've learned over the years. The first names that "leak" out are smokescreens.

100%

[Coach34]

Lmao. Arnett almost destroyed the program in record time. He would have never sniffed a bowl.
Croom absolutely sucked, but was 100 times better than Arnett.
Croom went to a bowl.
Croom beat Bama twice, including a win over Saban.
Croom left a pretty decent team for Mullen.

Arnett did absolutely NOTHING positive.

Croom beat a different animal than the one Bama is today.
It took 4 years for Croom to make a bowl. Croom lost to Maine.

End of discussion

[Coach34]

I'm not surprised that Virginia stepped up. I'm glad that it's happening now and not 4-5 weeks from now.

Like Schlossnagle.

and just like that- Mini-Me and O'Conner are out of the chase. I keep saying it- our hire is going to be lesser P4/G5/Top Assistant

That is how this hire turns out. There is no magic oddball Airbone hire out there that wanted to be closer to Key West in baseball like there was in football. Or successful out of work coach that a major shoe company pitches us to hire.

[Tripp McNeely]

and just like that- Mini-Me and O'Conner are out of the chase. I keep saying it- our hire is going to be lesser P4/G5/Top Assistant

That is how this hire turns out. There is no magic oddball Airbone hire out there that wanted to be closer to Key West in baseball like there was in football. Or successful out of work coach that a major shoe company pitches us to hire.

I wouldn't be so sure that BOC is out of play. There was zero denial that he is a candidate for our job in that statement.

[ZedFedder]

I wouldn't be so sure that BOC is out of play. There was zero denial that he is a candidate for our job in that statement.

I agree totally.

[maroonmania]

Agree on BOC. I'm not sure why WJ is even a candidate. Isn't he the one with the wife that hated it the whole time they were in Starkville?

[Coach34]

Baseball coaches arent football/basketball coaches. They dont job hop once they get their gig

Thinking a guy is going to leave Va after 22 years when he is getting what he wants in a successful program to move to Mississippi is kinda delusional

[Tripp McNeely]

I agree totally.

He said EXACTLY what I'd say if I was pondering another job but still employed. Don't deny your interest but Never mention the potential employer. Simply pump up your current employer because if you decide to stay, you wanna make it look like you think they are fantastic. Depending on how you read it, he's kinda putting UVA on the spot! Come through with some "elite" funding, or...

[Coach34]

Agree on BOC. I'm not sure why WJ is even a candidate. Isn't he the one with the wife that hated it the whole time they were in Starkville?

Georgia doesnt know his wife hated StarkVegas. He is going to use us to get a raise and something else built for him at Georgia

[The Federalist Engineer]

Kendall Rogers is Garbage

Stop giving this loser clicks.

https://dailyprogress.com/sports/college/baseball/virginia-cavaliers/article_6ab0c287-a4a4-46f3-9fd2-0b5616c224c2.html

[Todd4State]

Baseball coaches arent football/basketball coaches. They dont job hop once they get their gig

Thinking a guy is going to leave Va after 22 years when he is getting what he wants in a successful program to move to Mississippi is kinda delusional

Well that's the thing- apparently he isn't getting what he wants.

[BigDawg81]

and just like that- Mini-Me and O'Conner are out of the chase. I keep saying it- our hire is going to be lesser P4/G5/Top Assistant

That is how this hire turns out. There is no magic oddball Airbone hire out there that wanted to be closer to Key West in baseball like there was in football. Or successful out of work coach that a major shoe company pitches us to hire.
Listening to Hadad and the Baseball America guy interview, he wasn?t sure about Johnson being a candidate because it would cost State around 6 million. He went on to say that O?Connor is a real candidate and makes the most sense. If it was just agent talk or whatever, he would say the same on both of them about being a serious candidate

[StarkVegasSteve]

I read the O'Conner statement. It was about as deflective as you can get. He may not come, but him saying that he has great resources is just trying to get us to offer more and wow him. I mean what's he going to do, come out and say that a school that pays him in excess of a million dollars is not giving him support? Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

I have said for a while that I don't think O'Conner is the number 1 candidate.

[BigDawg81]

Who is the #1 candidate in your opinion?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Who is the #1 candidate in your opinion?

I tend to think it's Eric Bakich.

1. He's disgruntled at Clemson for a myriad of reasons but most stem from attendance and NIL. He's told multiple people in the last few weeks that the fact that the Savannah Bananas can sell out the football stadium and he averages only around 5K/game for a weekend series pisses him off. He also knows that Clemson is going to allot as much of the university allowed NIL funds to football and basketball. He MIGHT get to split the remaining 5-10% with all the other sports on campus.

2. He's been in this conference. He was with Corbin at Vandy and helped him build the foundation for those CWS trips and national championships in later seasons.

3. He's won EVERYWHERE. He took Michigan to the CWS finals and has Clemson back rolling again like they were under Monte Lee.

4. If we're not afraid to pay Wes Johnson's payout, then we're not going to be afraid to pay Bakich's buyout.

[BigDawg81]

I tend to think it's Eric Bakich.

1. He's disgruntled at Clemson for a myriad of reasons but most stem from attendance and NIL. He's told multiple people in the last few weeks that the fact that the Savannah Bananas can sell out the football stadium and he averages only around 5K/game for a weekend series pisses him off. He also knows that Clemson is going to allot as much of the university allowed NIL funds to football and basketball. He MIGHT get to split the remaining 5-10% with all the other sports on campus.

2. He's been in this conference. He was with Corbin at Vandy and helped him build the foundation for those CWS trips and national championships in later seasons.

3. He's won EVERYWHERE. He took Michigan to the CWS finals and has Clemson back rolling again like they were under Monte Lee.

4. If we're not afraid to pay Wes Johnson's payout, then we're not going to be afraid to pay Bakich's buyout.

Could very well be. It could be someone that we talked about very early but haven’t heard about recently like a Pollard.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Could very well be. It could be someone that we talked about very early but haven’t heard about recently like a Pollard.

I definitely think he is a candidate as well.

[StateDawg44]

Bakich>Pollard

I'd take Bakich and be very happy with the hire.

[Cooterpoot]

and just like that- Mini-Me and O'Conner are out of the chase. I keep saying it- our hire is going to be lesser P4/G5/Top Assistant

That is how this hire turns out. There is no magic oddball Airbone hire out there that wanted to be closer to Key West in baseball like there was in football. Or successful out of work coach that a major shoe company pitches us to hire.

I wouldn't be so quick to believe that.....

[Coach34]

I wouldn't be so quick to believe that.....

I could believe Bakich if Clemson isnt giving him resources altho its still going to be a tough pull. I just dont see an SEC coach leaving- especially in the talent rich area he is in to recruit from easily

[StarkVegasSteve]

I could believe Bakich if Clemson isnt giving him resources altho its still going to be a tough pull. I just dont see an SEC coach leaving- especially in the talent rich area he is in to recruit from easily

Clemson isn't giving him resources. They give him little NIL to work with and will be giving less once revenue share kicks in. And with what we already have pledged next year for just baseball in NIL, it would be pretty attractive.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I could believe Bakich if Clemson isnt giving him resources altho its still going to be a tough pull. I just dont see an SEC coach leaving- especially in the talent rich area he is in to recruit from easily

I very seriously doubt Wes leaves. I think he's interested in it because it's a step up and we have a bit more resources here but UGA will bump his salary and he'll be fine. They give him enough to win there. Hell he's in Year 2 and will be a national seed for the second straight year.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Who is the #1 candidate in your opinion?

Are you asking who we want as #1 preferred? Or who is #1 mostly likely hired?

[BigDawg81]

Are you asking who we want as #1 preferred? Or who is #1 mostly likely hired?
The latter

[BrunswickDawg]

I very seriously doubt Wes leaves. I think he's interested in it because it's a step up and we have a bit more resources here but UGA will bump his salary and he'll be fine. They give him enough to win there. Hell he's in Year 2 and will be a national seed for the second straight year.

I'll say this with first hand knowledge via a top UGA baseball donor - UGA has come around on baseball and they have the facilities and NIL support to finally awaken that sleeping giant.

[Cooterpoot]

I could believe Bakich if Clemson isnt giving him resources altho its still going to be a tough pull. I just dont see an SEC coach leaving- especially in the talent rich area he is in to recruit from easily

His buyout is large like Wes and Walter's so I still doubt those with high buyouts. I can't see us blowing close to $10MM on a couple staffs.

[Cooterpoot]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[HoopsDawg]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

???

[EdwardDrayton]

Well Parker is 3-0 .:............ LOL!!!

[MetEdDawg]

I think after a series win against Ole Miss we should revisit this.

With how Siary looked, how we won the series, and how this team seemingly has rallied, and some of the comments that have come out from some of the "bigger" coaching targets we've mentioned, is the collective thought still that Parker would be an underwhelming hire?

[StarkVegasSteve]

I think after a series win against Ole Miss we should revisit this.

With how Siary looked, how we won the series, and how this team seemingly has rallied, and some of the comments that have come out from some of the "bigger" coaching targets we've mentioned, is the collective thought still that Parker would be an underwhelming hire?

Yes. It still would be an underwhelming hire. Look no further than our bullpen management issues this weekend. I mean, we leave Pico out too long on Friday in game one and then we didn’t just go to McPherson in the ninth last night.

I think if you are going to go to Parker route, then you better find one hell of a recruiter to be the recruiting coordinator. That might be a more important higher for him than any of the other position coaches. Because we have seen what he can do when he has a talented pitching staff. I think we have pieces that are talented right now, but we are an underwhelming staff overall

[msudawg1200]

I think after a series win against Ole Miss we should revisit this.

With how Siary looked, how we won the series, and how this team seemingly has rallied, and some of the comments that have come out from some of the "bigger" coaching targets we've mentioned, is the collective thought still that Parker would be an underwhelming hire?

Here we go. No, no, no, no, and hell no. Clean house!!!' I knew our fans would start this crap with any fleeting success. Kentucky and Ole Miss aren't that good in the midst of top level SEC which is where we want and need to be.

[Todd4State]

I think after a series win against Ole Miss we should revisit this.

With how Siary looked, how we won the series, and how this team seemingly has rallied, and some of the comments that have come out from some of the "bigger" coaching targets we've mentioned, is the collective thought still that Parker would be an underwhelming hire?

Hell no.

Not to mention if he comes back the odds are at least Gautreau comes back as well.

We need a program reset. Bringing anyone back from this current staff doesn't make any sense and it would make firing Lemonis not make any sense either if we're basically just going to keep the staff and replace him with Bobby Austin essentially.

[Todd4State]

Here we go. No, no, no, no, and hell no. Clean house!!!' I knew our fans would start this crap with any fleeting success. Kentucky and Ole Miss aren't that good in the mist of top level SEC which is where we want and need to be.

True. And to be honest other than maybe winning one more game against Kentucky I don't think Parker has really done anything that Lemonis wouldn't have done if he was still our coach.

[Coursesuper]

I think after a series win against Ole Miss we should revisit this.

With how Siary looked, how we won the series, and how this team seemingly has rallied, and some of the comments that have come out from some of the "bigger" coaching targets we've mentioned, is the collective thought still that Parker would be an underwhelming hire?

Just no.

[BuckyIsAB****]

If he makes a super regional you have to consider it

[Coursesuper]

If he makes a super regional you have to consider it

I don’t think we will have that problem, and this program is not one for ojt. Right now it’s just baseball, but the program as a whole is a monster with to many moving parts. In today’s environment it would be more much more prudent to make all efforts to hire someone who has proven they can handle something more challenging.

[sandjunky]

If he makes a super regional you have to consider it
No you dont

[MBDawg601]

Need to move a different direction. Whole staff overhaul. Cannot keep Parker. This is not a place you ?try out? head coaching. Were a big boy school. Let?s act like it.

[Cooterpoot]

I think after a series win against Ole Miss we should revisit this.

With how Siary looked, how we won the series, and how this team seemingly has rallied, and some of the comments that have come out from some of the "bigger" coaching targets we've mentioned, is the collective thought still that Parker would be an underwhelming hire?

If we hire Parker, Selmon should be fired

[SPMT]

I think after a series win against Ole Miss we should revisit this.

With how Siary looked, how we won the series, and how this team seemingly has rallied, and some of the comments that have come out from some of the "bigger" coaching targets we've mentioned, is the collective thought still that Parker would be an underwhelming hire?

Ridiculous

[Quaoarsking]

If he makes a super regional you have to consider it

"Consider it" in the sense that he would be a fallback if a dozen other candidates say no, sure.

If we didn't hire Henderson (who had years of SEC head coaching experience) after taking us on a deep Omaha run, we won't hire Parker after just a Super Regional unless there's just no one else.

[DEDawg]

Croom beat a different animal than the one Bama is today.


Oh so you are saying the context of a program a coach inherits matters? Interesting coming from you.

[MetEdDawg]

Ridiculous

I'll wait for a good argument why not. No one has said anything about his capability. Just that we are going to blow the program up and start from scratch.

I have yet to hear anyone actually make a cogent argument why he's not qualified. Someone said misuse of bullpen Friday night. In that same vein, he led Evan Siary to strike out 15 Rebels (although that's no longer impressive because according to many now a series win over a ranked Ole Miss team is no longer a good win).

I'm not saying he should be the guy. I'm just saying I still really haven't seen why not other than we need to blow everything up and start over, even though the same people admit this team should be good enough to win.

[MBDawg601]

I'll wait for a good argument why not. No one has said anything about his capability. Just that we are going to blow the program up and start from scratch.

I have yet to hear anyone actually make a cogent argument why he's not qualified. Someone said misuse of bullpen Friday night. In that same vein, he led Evan Siary to strike out 15 Rebels (although that's no longer impressive because according to many now a series win over a ranked Ole Miss team is no longer a good win).

I'm not saying he should be the guy. I'm just saying I still really haven't seen why not other than we need to blow everything up and start over, even though the same people admit this team should be good enough to win.

I think the main reason we should blow the program up and start from scratch is the need for a cultural overhaul. Unfortunately Parker is associated with some of the worst baseball we have seen in a long time, so he has to go. You can?t be in the background going through the motions and then when you get your shot, you want to lead a culture change. Should have been fighting that fight a long time ago. Thank him for stepping in to lead the rest of the season and conduct the coaching search as planned.

[DawgFromOxford]

I'll wait for a good argument why not. No one has said anything about his capability. Just that we are going to blow the program up and start from scratch.

I have yet to hear anyone actually make a cogent argument why he's not qualified. Someone said misuse of bullpen Friday night. In that same vein, he led Evan Siary to strike out 15 Rebels (although that's no longer impressive because according to many now a series win over a ranked Ole Miss team is no longer a good win).

I'm not saying he should be the guy. I'm just saying I still really haven't seen why not other than we need to blow everything up and start over, even though the same people admit this team should be good enough to win.

No head coaching experience (I realize other assistants have been thrown out there, but would prefer to have someone who has run a whole program). Poor recruiting when it comes to pitchers, which is his specialty. Waits too long to take pitchers out, almost cost us the game last night.

[EdwardDrayton]

We NEED to clear out this staff.

[HoopsDawg]

I'll wait for a good argument why not. No one has said anything about his capability. Just that we are going to blow the program up and start from scratch.

I have yet to hear anyone actually make a cogent argument why he's not qualified. Someone said misuse of bullpen Friday night. In that same vein, he led Evan Siary to strike out 15 Rebels (although that's no longer impressive because according to many now a series win over a ranked Ole Miss team is no longer a good win).

I'm not saying he should be the guy. I'm just saying I still really haven't seen why not other than we need to blow everything up and start over, even though the same people admit this team should be good enough to win.

Does it really have to be said? He's part of the reason we are where we are.

[Coursesuper]

I'll wait for a good argument why not. No one has said anything about his capability. Just that we are going to blow the program up and start from scratch.

I have yet to hear anyone actually make a cogent argument why he's not qualified. Someone said misuse of bullpen Friday night. In that same vein, he led Evan Siary to strike out 15 Rebels (although that's no longer impressive because according to many now a series win over a ranked Ole Miss team is no longer a good win).

I'm not saying he should be the guy. I'm just saying I still really haven't seen why not other than we need to blow everything up and start over, even though the same people admit this team should be good enough to win.

When we say that we are our own worst enemies this is what we are referring too. We have a choice, we can commit to being a top tier program that will compete for championships, conference and national or we can be Misitippy Tate and stay in our own way. These guys are not capable of running a program at this level. Making the right decisions during a game is just a part of the puzzle that is managing the entire program. This program is a monster and we have leadership that can manage it.

[Quaoarsking]

I'll wait for a good argument why not. No one has said anything about his capability. Just that we are going to blow the program up and start from scratch.

I have yet to hear anyone actually make a cogent argument why he's not qualified. Someone said misuse of bullpen Friday night. In that same vein, he led Evan Siary to strike out 15 Rebels (although that's no longer impressive because according to many now a series win over a ranked Ole Miss team is no longer a good win).

I'm not saying he should be the guy. I'm just saying I still really haven't seen why not other than we need to blow everything up and start over, even though the same people admit this team should be good enough to win.

If Alabama fires DeBoer this fall, will they hire one of his coordinators to be the new head coach?

[Pancho]

he'll probably have 1 loss at the iron bowl might oughta find another comparison

[msudawg1200]

I think the main reason we should blow the program up and start from scratch is the need for a cultural overhaul. Unfortunately Parker is associated with some of the worst baseball we have seen in a long time, so he has to go. You can?t be in the background going through the motions and then when you get your shot, you want to lead a culture change. Should have been fighting that fight a long time ago. Thank him for stepping in to lead the rest of the season and conduct the coaching search as planned.

^This, plus many of the other posts. As I stated in my original post that everything associated with Lemonis has to go. Total culture change. I knew our gullible fans would start this keep Parker crap if we won a series or two with him.

[msudawg1200]

When we say that we are our own worst enemies this is what we are referring too. We have a choice, we can commit to being a top tier program that will compete for championships, conference and national or we can be Misitippy Tate and stay in our own way. These guys are not capable of running a program at this level. Making the right decisions during a game is just a part of the puzzle that is managing the entire program. This program is a monster and we have leadership that can manage it.

^This too. Some of our fans are such sheep.

[EdwardDrayton]

If Alabama fires DeBoer this fall, will they hire one of his coordinators to be the new head coach?

BEE EYE N G OH

[Cooterpoot]

I'll wait for a good argument why not. No one has said anything about his capability. Just that we are going to blow the program up and start from scratch.

I have yet to hear anyone actually make a cogent argument why he's not qualified. Someone said misuse of bullpen Friday night. In that same vein, he led Evan Siary to strike out 15 Rebels (although that's no longer impressive because according to many now a series win over a ranked Ole Miss team is no longer a good win).

I'm not saying he should be the guy. I'm just saying I still really haven't seen why not other than we need to blow everything up and start over, even though the same people admit this team should be good enough to win.

If you thought his management of the game last night won it, you didn't watch. His stupid defensive sub in the OF almost cost us the game and his pitchers walked 12 guys and almost blew it. He got lucky last night and his guys got shelled game one too.

[MetEdDawg]

I just want to make sure I'm clear. I'm not saying we should hire Parker.

But by everyone who is commenting on here, it sounds like you all are guaranteeing we are going to make a big hire. I just want to make sure that's the case.

I don't want to settle for Parker. If we can get a much bigger name you do it. But I'll be very interested in the responses if we go out and hire an assistant with no head coaching experience to blow our program up.

So are you all saying we for sure are hiring a big name with head coaching experience?

[Quaoarsking]

I just want to make sure I'm clear. I'm not saying we should hire Parker.

But by everyone who is commenting on here, it sounds like you all are guaranteeing we are going to make a big hire. I just want to make sure that's the case.

I don't want to settle for Parker. If we can get a much bigger name you do it. But I'll be very interested in the responses if we go out and hire an assistant with no head coaching experience to blow our program up.

So are you all saying we for sure are hiring a big name with head coaching experience?

Nothing's ever "for sure," I think there's too much smoke about a bunch of sitting ACC, Big 12, or SEC head coaches not to expect one of them to work out. I definitely have my heart set on O'Connor, but there are still good potential hires out there if he doesn't come.

Now if all of them do tell us no, and we're looking at Coggin vs. Elander vs. Parker, I can at least see the argument to consider Parker at that point, but I still think I'd have him at #3 out of those, given what all of them accomplished as assistants.

[was21]

If Alabama fires DeBoer this fall, will they hire one of his coordinators to be the new head coach?

Nope. Kiffin isn't one of his coordinators.

[Todd4State]

If you thought his management of the game last night won it, you didn't watch. His stupid defensive sub in the OF almost cost us the game and his pitchers walked 12 guys and almost blew it. He got lucky last night and his guys got shelled game one too.

More like guy because he just left Pico out there to rot. Which isn't any better and maybe worse.

[Todd4State]

I just want to make sure I'm clear. I'm not saying we should hire Parker.

But by everyone who is commenting on here, it sounds like you all are guaranteeing we are going to make a big hire. I just want to make sure that's the case.

I don't want to settle for Parker. If we can get a much bigger name you do it. But I'll be very interested in the responses if we go out and hire an assistant with no head coaching experience to blow our program up.

So are you all saying we for sure are hiring a big name with head coaching experience?

Nothing is guaranteed. But the odds of us not finding someone that has experience, wants to make a million dollars, and wants a ton of resources at a blueblood in the best college baseball conference in America is low. Plus we're likely a regional team. This isn't a complete dumpster fire. It will be a rebuild but it won't be like the one Cohen inherited.

Yes there are some Dan Heefner's out there that aren't coming. There are also some Brian O'Connor's who might.

And on top of that if we can't find someone that wants what I outlined then I think we have to pivot to Coggin. That's our best chance at success if we completely whiff on everyone.

[Todd4State]

And I will add most people in the industry seem to think we will hire a sitting head coach. We'll see if they're correct

[Coach34]

And I will add most people in the industry seem to think we will hire a sitting head coach. We'll see if they're correct

Yep. That's been the word

[KOdawg1]

Find someone that loves you like some Mississippi State fans love the idea of hiring our former players and assistant coaches.

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Does it really have to be said? He's part of the reason we are where we are.

He's really not. We were worse off without Parker - Parker actually got Lemonis another year

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I'll wait for a good argument why not. No one has said anything about his capability. Just that we are going to blow the program up and start from scratch.

I have yet to hear anyone actually make a cogent argument why he's not qualified. Someone said misuse of bullpen Friday night. In that same vein, he led Evan Siary to strike out 15 Rebels (although that's no longer impressive because according to many now a series win over a ranked Ole Miss team is no longer a good win).

I'm not saying he should be the guy. I'm just saying I still really haven't seen why not other than we need to blow everything up and start over, even though the same people admit this team should be good enough to win.

I agree with you 100%. People forget the Foxhall was great when he got here then regressed annually. Auburn is much improved with Foxhall now. Same with Parker - he came in here as a top tier pitching coach and instantly turned our pitching around. This year hasn't been as good and that's where we seem to have a common denominator who is no longer leading the program. If we were looking at Parker back in 2023 before he was here, we would all think differently.

[Cooterpoot]

I agree with you 100%. People forget the Foxhall was great when he got here then regressed annually. Auburn is much improved with Foxhall now. Same with Parker - he came in here as a top tier pitching coach and instantly turned our pitching around. This year hasn't been as good and that's where we seem to have a common denominator who is no longer leading the program. If we were looking at Parker back in 2023 before he was here, we would all think differently.

Foxhall isn't the pitching coach at AU and Butch knows pitching. Parker failed to sign portal talent, especially starters, nor managed well this year with what he had. I'm not saying he's a terrible pitching coach, but he's not done his job well this season.

[Todd4State]

Find someone that loves you like some Mississippi State fans love the idea of hiring our former players and assistant coaches.

And those fans that think that Parker should get a chance need to ask themselves- what has Parker done that Lemonis wouldn't have so far?

Beat Memphis? Not sure that Lemonis ever lost to them. If he did it wasn't often.

Beat Kentucky? I think we win that series with Lemonis but probably don't sweep because for that one weekend we managed the staff better than usual.

Beat Ole Miss? Lemonis did that routinely. This weekend probably wouldn't have been much different honestly. It's not like we were noticeably less sloppy. Even the one year Lemonis lost the series to them- which I believe was when Loo got hurt early in his start after we ran through our bullpen- Lemonis still won the Governor's Cup and then ended their season with the Auger/Hujsack game to go 3-2 on the year.

[Todd4State]

He's really not. We were worse off without Parker - Parker actually got Lemonis another year

And that's because Parker is infinitely better at pitcher development. From rumors I have heard Foxhall did very little other than try to generate velo.

[StarkVegasSteve]

And that's because Parker is infinitely better at pitcher development. From rumors I have heard Foxhall did very little other than try to generate velo.

He may be good at development but he sucks at defining roles. I think another bullpen guy is our closer each and every week.

[BigDawg81]

He may be good at development but he sucks at defining roles. I think another bullpen guy is our closer each and every week.
I have same issue. The closer is Dotson today. Davis will be the closer tomorrow. McPherson might be the closer the day after that.

[Todd4State]

He may be good at development but he sucks at defining roles. I think another bullpen guy is our closer each and every week.


I have same issue. The closer is Dotson today. Davis will be the closer tomorrow. McPherson might be the closer the day after that.

Exactly.

[BuckyIsAB****]

"Consider it" in the sense that he would be a fallback if a dozen other candidates say no, sure.

If we didn't hire Henderson (who had years of SEC head coaching experience) after taking us on a deep Omaha run, we won't hire Parker after just a Super Regional unless there's just no one else.
That was what I was trying to say