All I Can Say Is....It's About Time

[StarkVegasSteve]

BINGO


UPDATE: Hold on, waiting to see if anyone else confirms this. Reported on 247 by David Murray, with an article, but not seeing it anywhere else.

[Coach34]

Let's find some juice

[StarkVegasSteve]

It's official.



https://hailstate.com/news/2025/4/28/mississippi-state-announces-change-in-baseball-leadership

[Commercecomet24]

Needed to be done.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

He was obviously not the guy after '23. Should have been fired then. Wasted 2 years of time because the then new AD was too cowardly to make the move. Head in sand moments rarely end well

[Tbonewannabe]

I hate that it happened but it had to be done. I really like the guy and will always appreciate 2021.

[Ranchdawg]

I don’t like people getting fired. It affects so many people other than just the person being fired. I was really hopeful that Lemonis could salvage his team and make the M over S brand decent again. I always thought Lemonis was a decent person. I will always be thankful for our Natty!

But it was time! He either was too lazy or not organized enough to make these players successful. I have been following MSU baseball for almost 50yrs and I have listened on the radio, watched on tv or been in person all those years. I have seen some unbelievable baseball played at the Dude. But the last 3yrs were some of the worst that I remember. NOW SELMON GO GET US A COACH that will bring back decent baseball.

[StarkVegasSteve]

As expected, we're being raked over the coals by Kendall Rodgers. Knew that was coming. And that's no offense to Kendall, he's going to stick up for the coaches he likes and Lemonis is one of those coaches. Says we should've given him til the end of the season, but he also didn't think we needed to move on after 23 when most of us thought we did.

Again, this is to be expected and he probably won't be the last one to rake us over the coals in the next few days.

[Coach34]

Meh- it is what it is. Lemon had every chance to save his job the last 2 weeks and just couldnt do it

[State82]

The "effective immediately" is surprising. Didn't think Selmon would do that.

[Coursesuper]

Needed to be done.

Past time.

[Pancho]

The "effective immediately" is surprising. Didn't think Selmon would do that.

He was strongly encouraged.

[StarkVegasSteve]

The "effective immediately" is surprising. Didn't think Selmon would do that.

I mean what else was he going to do? Let him be a lame duck coach? That would've only been beneficial for the teams we were playing.

[Coursesuper]

As expected, we're being raked over the coals by Kendall Rodgers. Knew that was coming. And that's no offense to Kendall, he's going to stick up for the coaches he likes and Lemonis is one of those coaches. Says we should've given him til the end of the season, but he also didn't think we needed to move on after 23 when most of us thought we did.

Again, this is to be expected and he probably won't be the last one to rake us over the coals in the next few days.

This has been coming for over a month, he ran out of rope yesterday.

[State82]

I mean what else was he going to do? Let him be a lame duck coach? That would've only been beneficial for the teams we were playing.

I just figured Selmon would sit on it for 4 weeks before announcing but I'm glad he went ahead and did what had to be done.

[SaintDawg]

I hate that it happened but it had to be done. I really like the guy and will always appreciate 2021.

Yep. Met him several times and enjoyed talking with him. I will always be thankful to him for ‘21. Wish him the best.

[Jack Lambert]

I don't feel sorry for him. He got paid. He knows there are two types of coaches. Those who just got fired and those who going to be fire.

[BravesDoggy]

He was obviously not the guy after '23. Should have been fired then. Wasted 2 years of time because the then new AD was too cowardly to make the move. Head in sand moments rarely end well

Blah blah blah.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I just figured Selmon would sit on it for 4 weeks before announcing but I'm glad he went ahead and did what had to be done.

"What should be done eventually, must be done immediately"-Jeremy Foley

[EdwardDrayton]

All I can say is ........... it's about dang 17ing time. Shoulda done it weeks ago. But water under the bridge. Let's 17ing go and get the train rollin' again. It's finally a new day in Dawg Land!!

[WSOPdawg]

I don’t like people getting fired. It affects so many people other than just the person being fired. I was really hopeful that Lemonis could salvage his team and make the M over S brand decent again. I always thought Lemonis was a decent person. I will always be thankful for our Natty!



...and I don't like people running our program into the ground.

There's a little grace for having an "off" season, but this year, there are 8 SEC schools that are going to be one of the NCAA hosts (as in they're hosting 3 other teams), and we'll be sitting at home. Additionally, 35-55 SEC record (<39% win pct) from 2022-2024 plus this year's crapfest qualifies as having run the program in the ground. I'm glad he's gone... finally!!!

[StarkVegasSteve]

Peterson was definitely harshest. Like I said, I get it. They are friends with him and have no affiliation with the program. They are going to be harsh.

[Activated Alpha]

Peterson was definitely harshest. Like I said, I get it. They are friends with him and have no affiliation with the program. They are going to be harsh.

But honestly when has the media ever shined a positive light on our school?

[Todd4State]

Peterson was definitely harshest. Like I said, I get it. They are friends with him and have no affiliation with the program. They are going to be harsh.

It would have been worse in 2023.

[Cowbell]

Did we just all agree on something? That this was the right move? Does this mean that we can all be best friends?

[EdwardDrayton]

Kudos to Zac, who demonstrated a fair balance between patience and not waiting any longer.

More patience than I would've had.

[CaptainObvious]

I don’t like people getting fired. It affects so many people other than just the person being fired. I was really hopeful that Lemonis could salvage his team and make the M over S brand decent again. I always thought Lemonis was a decent person. I will always be thankful for our Natty!

But it was time! He either was too lazy or not organized enough to make these players successful. I have been following MSU baseball for almost 50yrs and I have listened on the radio, watched on tv or been in person all those years. I have seen some unbelievable baseball played at the Dude. But the last 3yrs were some of the worst that I remember. NOW SELMON GO GET US A COACH that will bring back decent baseball.

I don't like people making $40k to $50k a year getting fired because they may be the bread winner. I don't mind coaches make more than a $1 million living in million dollar homes sitting on millions in their bank account getting fired for not getting the job done. He was interviewed in the 4th inning of the Texas ESPN game and said we have a good ball club. So if we have a good ball club and are 7-14 SEC, the problem must not be the ball club.

We all know it is of course, but the recruiter extraordinaire brought in the "mediocre" ball club and now he is paying for his and his staff's poor evaluation abilities. Bye Bye Now!

[Goldendawg]

...and I don't like people running our program into the ground.

There's a little grace for having an "off" season, but this year, there are 8 SEC schools that are going to be one of the NCAA hosts (as in they're hosting 3 other teams), and we'll be sitting at home. Additionally, 35-55 SEC record (<39% win pct) from 2022-2024 plus this year's crapfest qualifies as having run the program in the ground. I'm glad he's gone... finally!!!

He's our Gene Chizik of baseball. One NC and leaves a multi-millionaire. Hard to reach the top as many never do, but much harder to stay there. We tumbled 3 of the next four years.

[DownwardDawg]

Needed to be done.

Absolutely

[Cooterpoot]

Selmon has now fired two coaches midseason. He's got balls, let's see if he's got THE guy.

[BuckyIsAB****]

...and I don't like people running our program into the ground.

There's a little grace for having an "off" season, but this year, there are 8 SEC schools that are going to be one of the NCAA hosts (as in they're hosting 3 other teams), and we'll be sitting at home. Additionally, 35-55 SEC record (<39% win pct) from 2022-2024 plus this year's crapfest qualifies as having run the program in the ground. I'm glad he's gone... finally!!!

35-55 but some were defending him to the death

[CaptainObvious]

35-55 but some were defending him to the death

And remember this includes 17-13 last year. So 18-42 combined SEC record for 22, 23, and 25 year to date. And the fact is in 21, he may have led the team to a NC but his team certainly wasn't the best SEC team that year as indicated by the 2 7 inning run rule losses in Hoover!

[msstate7]

Maybe 3rd time is a charm for rejuvenating my teams with a midseason firing. Saints continued to suck, and the grizzlies completely bombed.

[99jc]

Maybe 3rd time is a charm for rejuvenating my teams with a midseason firing. Saints continued to suck, and the grizzlies completely bombed.

I would have fired that 17er last season.

[Coach34]

I would have fired that 17er last season.

and our coaching choices would be cut down by half. Firing a guy that finished 5th in the SEC and made a Regional Final? Our new HC would have been the hitting coach from Fla Atlantic

[BeardoMSU]

35-55 but some were defending him to the death

College baseball media (such as they are) are unsurprisingly appalled, lol.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

and our coaching choices would be cut down by half. Firing a guy that finished 5th in the SEC and made a Regional Final? Our new HC would have been the hitting coach from Fla Atlantic

Which is why he should have been fired after '23- so we wouldn't have to keep him after making a regional and "showed improvement". He proved he didn't have "it" after '23, just like JoMo you gotta pull the plug when the writing is on the wall

[BeardoMSU]

Which is why he should have been fired after '23- so we wouldn't have to keep him after making a regional and "showed improvement". He proved he didn't have "it" after '23, just like JoMo you gotta pull the plug when the writing is on the wall

I also like firing him now, so we can get ahead of any other teams that maybe looking for a coach. If you know it's done, zero reason to prolong the inevitable. Rip the bandaid off and get to work on the replacement.

[Coach34]

Which is why he should have been fired after '23- so we wouldn't have to keep him after making a regional and "showed improvement". He proved he didn't have "it" after '23, just like JoMo you gotta pull the plug when the writing is on the wall

Had we not had all the turmoil of the revolving coaches before him- I'd agree. But he got the pass- and deservedly so- because we had the turnstyle HC problem before he got the job. Thats affects the program and recruiting

[msstate7]

Who in charge now?

[BuckyIsAB****]

and our coaching choices would be cut down by half. Firing a guy that finished 5th in the SEC and made a Regional Final? Our new HC would have been the hitting coach from Fla Atlantic

Bigfoot won the regional final

[KOdawg1]

I look forward to the day where I don't have to hear about "regional finals" ever again

[Cowbell]

I look forward to the day where I don't have to hear about "regional finals" ever again

You certainly won't be hearing about it this year...

[DownwardDawg]

I look forward to the day where I don't have to hear about "regional finals" ever again

I'm with you in this!!

[BuckyIsAB****]

I look forward to the day where I don't have to hear about "regional finals" ever again

Its right up there with alien abductions and the chupacabra

[Coach34]

The people that cover college baseball for a living mentioned it yesterday. Maybe some of our fans will be literate enough one day to understand it

[StateDawg44]

The people that cover college baseball for a living mentioned it yesterday.

Ha. Do what?

The people that cover baseball for a living :rolleyes:

[EdwardDrayton]

I also like firing him now, so we can get ahead of any other teams that maybe looking for a coach. If you know it's done, zero reason to prolong the inevitable. Rip the bandaid off and get to work on the replacement.

^^^^^^

[StarkVegasSteve]

The people that cover college baseball for a living mentioned it yesterday. Maybe some of our fans will be literate enough one day to understand it

They mentioned it because it makes coaches feel better about their season ending. It sounds better to say they got bounced in the Regional Final than to say they got bounced in the Regionals. These guys are going to stick up for the coaches because they know these coaches. They don't really have an allegiance to one program. We do.

I mean when we won Regionals in 16,17,18,19, and 21 we didn't put our press releases saying we beat La Tech, USM, Oklahoma, Miami, and Campbell in the Regional Finals. We said we won the Starkville/Hattiesburg/Tallahassee/Starkville/Starkville Regional. It's only called a Regional Final when you lose to make yourself feel better about losing.

[KOdawg1]

They mentioned it because it makes coaches feel better about their season ending. It sounds better to say they got bounced in the Regional Final than to say they got bounced in the Regionals. These guys are going to stick up for the coaches because they know these coaches. They don't really have an allegiance to one program. We do.

I mean when we won Regionals in 16,17,18,19, and 21 we didn't put our press releases saying we beat La Tech, USM, Oklahoma, Miami, and Campbell in the Regional Finals. We said we won the Starkville/Hattiesburg/Tallahassee/Starkville/Starkville Regional. It's only called a Regional Final when you lose to make yourself feel better about losing.
Correcto.

"Regional Final" wasn't a thing until Lemonis and his BFF started pushing it out at the end of last year to make everyone feel better about getting bounced by Virginia. Does the 4 seed who goes 0-2 get to say, "Hey it's okay, we're Regional Quarterfinalists"?

[The Federalist Engineer]

Peterson was definitely harshest. Like I said, I get it. They are friends with him and have no affiliation with the program. They are going to be harsh.

Someone needs to tell Kyle Peterson that Lemons was coaching during the collapse to Florida the other weekend when he was in Starkville. For the Run Rule game and he saw two Relief pitchers give-up 12 runs, 9 hits, and 3 walks without a single-out on consecutive games.

By the way, not to a Top-5 National Seed Florida team, a 14th place Florida team. At Home.

Kyle must think that Lemons was the one sending food to the broadcast booth.

[Lord McBuckethead]

He was obviously not the guy after '23. Should have been fired then. Wasted 2 years of time because the then new AD was too cowardly to make the move. Head in sand moments rarely end well

Hard to fire a guy that won a national championship just 2 years prior.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Things that Lemons can look back and regret:

(1) If he had signed Paul Skeens in 2022 ... Given $250K to the Bus Driver, to NIL Paul Skeens for a Party Bus business to and from the LFL and Junction.
(2) Fired Fox after 2022, not because Sims got injured but because Fristoe, Tepper, Stinnett, Cade and KC Hunt were not developed to their tremendous potential. Nearly all Drafted pitchers.
(3) If he had signed Aiva Arquette in 2024 ... lost to Oregon State, wow
(3) Signed the big boy from Samford in 2021 ... Sonny DiChiara ... decided that Luke Handcock was his 1B.
(4) NIL'ed Houston Hardin to stay in 2021 ... Hardin left for $1,500 signing bonus
(5) Could not sell another year to Mershon in 2025 (18th Round!)
(6) He hit on Khal Stephen in the portal, but Ligon, Pruitt, Hungate (injury), Walling (atrocity), Gartman (marginal), Davis (one decent year), Dohm (one year as starter) ... never got starting pitching from the portal. Maybe everyone knew Fox was trash, except him.
(7) Recruit Braden Montgomery in 2024, the IQ 200 play was to NIL the Volleyball girlfriend to Starkville.
(8) Letting the MLB-Style batting revolution skip-over Starkville.
(9) The 2021 recruiting class was terrible, Pico was the only star player. The rest was Mizzou level players or clearly fake recruits seeking MLB leverage.
(10) Cheese as his Catching and 3rd Base coach.

[WSOPdawg]

Things that Lemons can look back and regret:

(1) If he had signed Paul Skeens in 2022 ... Given $250K to the Bus Driver, to NIL Paul Skeens for a Party Bus business to and from the LFL and Junction.
(2) Fired Fox after 2022, not because Sims got injured but because Fristoe, Tepper, Stinnett, Cade and KC Hunt were not developed to their tremendous potential. Nearly all Drafted pitchers.
(3) If he had signed Aiva Arquette in 2024 ... lost to Oregon State, wow
(3) Signed the big boy from Samford in 2021 ... Sonny DiChiara ... decided that Luke Handcock was his 1B.
(4) NIL'ed Houston Hardin to stay in 2021 ... Hardin left for $1,500 signing bonus
(5) Could not sell another year to Mershon in 2025 (18th Round!)
(6) He hit on Khal Stephen in the portal, but Ligon, Pruitt, Hungate (injury), Walling (atrocity), Gartman (marginal), Davis (one decent year), Dohm (one year as starter) ... never got starting pitching from the portal. Maybe everyone knew Fox was trash, except him.
(7) Recruit Braden Montgomery in 2024, the IQ 200 play was to NIL the Volleyball girlfriend to Starkville.
(8) Letting the MLB-Style batting revolution skip-over Starkville.
(9) The 2021 recruiting class was terrible, Pico was the only star player. The rest was Mizzou level players or clearly fake recruits seeking MLB leverage.
(10) Cheese as his Catching and 3rd Base coach.


Man, those ^^^^^ are a lot of unforgiveable atrocities when presented as a collective. 100% agree as only one or two of those could have turned around the dismal seasons coming off our championship run.

[Coach34]

His reluctance to embrace the portal immediately and have loyalty to recruits for sure cost him his job

[DownwardDawg]

The people that cover college baseball for a living mentioned it yesterday. Maybe some of our fans will be literate enough one day to understand it

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

[StarkVegasSteve]

Things that Lemons can look back and regret:

(1) If he had signed Paul Skeens in 2022 ... Given $250K to the Bus Driver, to NIL Paul Skeens for a Party Bus business to and from the LFL and Junction.
(2) Fired Fox after 2022, not because Sims got injured but because Fristoe, Tepper, Stinnett, Cade and KC Hunt were not developed to their tremendous potential. Nearly all Drafted pitchers.
(3) If he had signed Aiva Arquette in 2024 ... lost to Oregon State, wow
(3) Signed the big boy from Samford in 2021 ... Sonny DiChiara ... decided that Luke Handcock was his 1B.
(4) NIL'ed Houston Hardin to stay in 2021 ... Hardin left for $1,500 signing bonus
(5) Could not sell another year to Mershon in 2025 (18th Round!)
(6) He hit on Khal Stephen in the portal, but Ligon, Pruitt, Hungate (injury), Walling (atrocity), Gartman (marginal), Davis (one decent year), Dohm (one year as starter) ... never got starting pitching from the portal. Maybe everyone knew Fox was trash, except him.
(7) Recruit Braden Montgomery in 2024, the IQ 200 play was to NIL the Volleyball girlfriend to Starkville.
(8) Letting the MLB-Style batting revolution skip-over Starkville.
(9) The 2021 recruiting class was terrible, Pico was the only star player. The rest was Mizzou level players or clearly fake recruits seeking MLB leverage.
(10) Cheese as his Catching and 3rd Base coach.

3. The Harding thing wasn't his fault. Cohen and his dumbass crony Lee Van Horn had no clue how to utilize NIL so we had no funds. We had people willing to donate with nowhere to donate.

5. Mershon's NIL deal with 2x what he was offered by the Angels. He wanted to start playing pro ball.

7. We were the best NIL deal by 6 figures for Braden Montgomery. He never wanted to play here. The only people that wanted him here were his parents. He never wanted to play here.