Jackson Arnold

[maroonmania]

Auburn has a better town than Starkville. A hard truth-Starkville is the worse town in the SEC.

Auburn itself is not even as good as Starkville but they have Opelika that essentially is right next door that makes a big difference. I mean Opelika has a Target so there you go.

[Brobi-wan]

No sir. Tuscaloosa is worse

As someone in their mid twenties, no it?s not. Tuscaloosa?s bar scene is better and their downtown area is pretty neat too.

[EdwardDrayton]

Nothing in Auburn either.

Was just in Auburn this week. Auburn trumps Starkville with little doubt. And Auburn is an hour and forty-three minutes from Atlanta. Starkville is four hours and twenty minutes.

[EdwardDrayton]

Auburn itself is not even as good as Starkville but they have Opelika that essentially is right next door that makes a big difference. I mean Opelika has a Target so there you go.

Think most folks consider Auburn/Opelika as a single entity.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Auburn itself is not even as good as Starkville but they have Opelika that essentially is right next door that makes a big difference. I mean Opelika has a Target so there you go.

Auburn has Skybar. Starkville has Two Brothers. It is not even comparable how much better Skybar is. Skybar might be the best bar in the SEC

[StarkVegasSteve]

As someone in their mid twenties, no it?s not. Tuscaloosa?s bar scene is better and their downtown area is pretty neat too.

Yea Tuscaloosa, and every other SEC town outside of maybe CoMo is going to crap on Starkville.

[StarkVegasSteve]

No sir. Tuscaloosa is worse

Galettes is literally better than any bar in Starkville by a mile. The Houndstooth, Avenue Pub, Innisfree, etc. All better than anything Starkville has.

[smootness]

You are insane if you think any of this involves the bars in the towns.

It all comes down to program prestige, resources, success, NFL production and, above all, money. Period.

[Brobi-wan]

Yea Tuscaloosa, and every other SEC town outside of maybe CoMo is going to crap on Starkville.

Hate to say this, but Tuscaloosa (to me) is far improved post tornado than pre-tornado.

[StarkVegasSteve]

You are insane if you think any of this involves the bars in the towns.

It all comes down to program prestige, resources, success, NFL production and, above all, money. Period.

It does not only come down to that. But if you think the town and the nightlife do not play a part then you are insane.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Hate to say this, but Tuscaloosa (to me) is far improved post tornado than pre-tornado.

Not even close. They basically got a do over.

[Brobi-wan]

You are insane if you think any of this involves the bars in the towns.

It all comes down to program prestige, resources, success, NFL production and, above all, money. Period.

Calling BS. My money is no good if there is nowhere in town to spend it. These players are not bored house wives ordering Amazon. You’d have to be crazy to think that rich 20 something don’t want to flash some bands at a bar/club.

[DownwardDawg]

Galettes is literally better than any bar in Starkville by a mile. The Houndstooth, Avenue Pub, Innisfree, etc. All better than anything Starkville has.

Bands from Nashville routinely play in Tuscaloosa also. Not in Starkville.

[basedog]

Jason Aldean says hold my beer. So football players only go to party while students just go to class**. Asking for a friend.

Winning solves everything.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Jason Aldean says hold my beer. So football players only go to party while students just go to class**. Asking for a friend.

Winning solves everything.

Hell, in 2014 I think I went to class twice from LSU-Auburn.

[maroonmania]

Jason Aldean says hold my beer. So football players only go to party while students just go to class**. Asking for a friend.

Winning solves everything.

Exactly, all this stuff is secondary. 2-10 is the big issue with no upgrades on the coaching staff. Either that or only football players go to bars while basketball and baseball players stay in and study.

[R2Dawg]

Auburn has a better town than Starkville. A hard truth-Starkville is the worse town in the SEC.

Totally disagree. Some of yall think if their isn't a concert every night and multiple places to get drunk at then the town is no good. No everyone has to have those two things.

Starkville is the typical college small town. Plenty of frat parties to crash and some good eating in Starkville. Short drive to Jackson if some miss nightly shootings that is closer than Atlanta.

[parabrave]

It really isnt close either. Second worse is probably Columbia and gap prob is wider than we would like to think

Well until Bentonville expanded to north Fayetteville it was a close 1a.

[DEDawg]

Was just in Auburn this week. Auburn trumps Starkville with little doubt. And Auburn is an hour and forty-three minutes from Atlanta. Starkville is four hours and twenty minutes.

Yeah, Skybar alone is better than the entire scene in the district

[MetEdDawg]

Lived in Starkville for 4 years and lived in Auburn for 4 years.

Auburn is substantially better and there is far more to do in the town and close by. I know Starkville has added quite a bit since I left but even so, Auburn is just better by quite a bit.

[bulldawg28]

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[bulldawg28]

As a former player that's visited multiple campuses outside of money it boils down to attractive girls. A party is a party. A club is a club. Guys are looking for winning football, money, and beautiful women. It's not this career decision grown men are making it to be.

[Cowbell]

As a former player that's visited multiple campuses outside of money it boils down to attractive girls. A party is a party. A club is a club. Guys are looking for winning football, money, and beautiful women. It's not this career decision grown men are making it to be.

This. And Starkville is better than Norman

[Dawgface]

This. And Starkville is better than Norman

I guess it is if you like small towns. Norman has a population of a little over 120k and is a sub of Oklahoma City.

[DEDawg]

As a former player that's visited multiple campuses outside of money it boils down to attractive girls. A party is a party. A club is a club. Guys are looking for winning football, money, and beautiful women. It's not this career decision grown men are making it to be.

Idk if you were in college a long time ago or what but this is not remotely accurate. You take a kid to the Library or Skybar or Alcove and then bring them to Starkville and tell them they get to go to the district and have a beer at the Bin that closes at midnight then go home. Does not translate well. Closest we ever had was Cowbells which obviously is long gone now. There is nowhere to club until 3am in Starkville.

[DEDawg]

This. And Starkville is better than Norman
Yall are just in the denial stage right now.

[Tater]

Idk if you were in college a long time ago or what but this is not remotely accurate. You take a kid to the Library or Skybar or Alcove and then bring them to Starkville and tell them they get to go to the district and have a beer at the Bin that closes at midnight then go home. Does not translate well. Closest we ever had was Cowbells which obviously is long gone now. There is nowhere to club until 3am in Starkville.

Covid killing Cowbells was a death knell to Starkville's aspirations to be anything more than a town stuck in the 1940s and proud of it.

Kids want fun. Starkville doesn't have fun. It's telling when everyone keeps talking about bars as the thing to do. There's a million and one other things to do in bigger cities than just go to bars you drunks.

These kids will find a way to drink after 1 if they want to. Unless your Kylin Hill and go on a "I'm gonna get thrown out of a house party in every house in the Retreat" streak.

[DEDawg]

Covid killing Cowbells was a death knell to Starkville's aspirations to be anything more than a town stuck in the 1940s and proud of it.

Kids want fun. Starkville doesn't have fun. It's telling when everyone keeps talking about bars as the thing to do. There's a million and one other things to do in bigger cities than just go to bars you drunks.

These kids will find a way to drink after 1 if they want to. Unless your Kylin Hill and go on a "I'm gonna get thrown out of a house party in every house in the Retreat" streak.

Yep. People in this thread have their heads in the sand if they think otherwise. I wasn't exaggerating in my earlier post for anyone who hasn't live in Starkville for a while. The bars close at midnight. MIDNIGHT. you have security guards yelling at 11:35 for last call and then they stop selling drinks. What do the kids do after that? Nothing, because there is nothing. You go to bed or you go to a friends house and sit in the living room and play all American rejects and funnel beers. Starkville kills MSU and seems to have no desire to come into the 21st century.

I remember seeing Dak and J. Rob at Cowbells during last call around 2:45 multiple times. Even that's gone now.

[Brobi-wan]

Idk if you were in college a long time ago or what but this is not remotely accurate. You take a kid to the Library or Skybar or Alcove and then bring them to Starkville and tell them they get to go to the district and have a beer at the Bin that closes at midnight then go home. Does not translate well. Closest we ever had was Cowbells which obviously is long gone now. There is nowhere to club until 3am in Starkville.

The fact that the district closes so early should be a human rights violation.

[Tater]

Yep. People in this thread have their heads in the sand if they think otherwise. I wasn't exaggerating in my earlier post for anyone who hasn't live in Starkville for a while. The bars close at midnight. MIDNIGHT. you have security guards yelling at 11:35 for last call and then they stop selling drinks. What do the kids do after that? Nothing, because there is nothing. You go to bed or you go to a friends house and sit in the living room and play all American rejects and funnel beers. Starkville kills MSU and seems to have no desire to come into the 21st century.

I remember seeing Dak and J. Rob at Cowbells during last call around 2:45 multiple times. Even that's gone now.

"I remember... at Cowbells... around 2:45."

That makes you probably the only one ��

[DEDawg]

The fact that the district closes so early should be a human rights violation.

It's bad when you have the worse bar scene in the SEC and then further handcuff yourself by making it close at 11:35. I mean, what do people think these kids do on their visits? See the stadium and then go to their hotel at 8:30? They go out and check out the nightlife. I can't imagine how insanely difficult it has to be for our coaches to have a kid go to Skybar Friday night with a private area paid for and stocked by Freeze and then come to Starkville and have a pulled pork taco with the coaches then have nothing to do.

[DEDawg]

"I remember... at Cowbells... around 2:45."

That makes you probably the only one ��

lol I was pledging one of those years so found myself stone cold sober late at night many times

[DEDawg]

Like... this is what JA was doing last night https://www.instagram.com/p/DDk1arDh8tS/

This is what he'd be doing if he came here tonight. https://www.instagram.com/p/DAbZ_OMvD8v/

See the difference to a 20 year old with a million dollars?

[Brobi-wan]

Like... this is what JA was doing last night https://www.instagram.com/p/DDk1arDh8tS/

This is what he'd be doing if he came here tonight. https://www.instagram.com/p/DAbZ_OMvD8v/

See the difference to a 20 year old with a million dollars?

I went to Uno Mas a couple weeks ago. My GF is a senior at State currently. Highlight of the night was watching some sorority girls get MIPs at 8:45.

[Tater]

lol I was pledging one of those years so found myself stone cold sober late at night many times

Fair enough.

But to the point about Starkville. It's crazy that there is a higher percentage of things to do after 7 pm that are "Bar" than Madison, Wisconsin.

More bars here, but i can go axe throwing, i can go roller derby, i can go casual skate, i can go laser tag, i can go bowling, i can go to an arcade (even a dave & buster's), i can go participate in a multitude of different casual sports (soccer, volleyball, softball, flag football, ultimate, disc golf, etc.), i can go walk around several different scenic trails, i can go do lake activities, i can go to the mall...

I can go on and on. Point is - if you aren't a person who watches TV all night after work, goes to State games on Saturday,go to church in the morning on Sunday - lunch after - late service after napping watching TV... starkville isn't your town and is not advertising for you to sow your roots long term.

[DEDawg]

Fair enough.

But to the point about Starkville. It's crazy that there is a higher percentage of things to do after 7 pm that are "Bar" than Madison, Wisconsin.

More bars here, but i can go axe throwing, i can go roller derby, i can go casual skate, i can go laser tag, i can go bowling, i can go to an arcade (even a dave & buster's), i can go participate in a multitude of different casual sports (soccer, volleyball, softball, flag football, ultimate, disc golf, etc.), i can go walk around several different scenic trails, i can go do lake activities, i can go to the mall...

I can go on and on. Point is - if you aren't a person who watches TV all night after work, goes to State games on Saturday,go to church in the morning on Sunday - lunch after - late service after napping watching TV... starkville isn't your town and is not advertising for you to sow your roots long term.

I agree to an extent, however Ole Miss has none of those issues and they don?t have any of that stuff either. They have a nationally known bar and party scene. When you are 18-21 you want a fake and to go do that on the weekends. Now imagine being one of the most popular people on campus and a million dollars in your pocket. You want to be able to party and pull women there. Starkville just doesn?t offer that.

[Coursesuper]

Hell, in 2014 I think I went to class twice from LSU-Auburn.

I can beat you there. In 1984 I didn?t go to class from Halloween til Christmas and the next semester I was at Paris Island. Of course those were the late Ballard years so football was optional and mostly in Jackson.

[TheLostDawg]

Totally disagree. Some of yall think if their isn't a concert every night and multiple places to get drunk at then the town is no good. No everyone has to have those two things.

Starkville is the typical college small town. Plenty of frat parties to crash and some good eating in Starkville. Short drive to Jackson if some miss nightly shootings that is closer than Atlanta.

This. Yeah there isn't a lot of places to go after college but in college there are plenty of bars and these kids go to house and frat parties. Yall are thinking like 40 year olds, not high school and late teens. Yeah Oxford has the square but other than that they have nothing more. What Oxford has that makes a difference is the town has a media presence and they have a solid football team and coach.

[TheLostDawg]

Idk if you were in college a long time ago or what but this is not remotely accurate. You take a kid to the Library or Skybar or Alcove and then bring them to Starkville and tell them they get to go to the district and have a beer at the Bin that closes at midnight then go home. Does not translate well. Closest we ever had was Cowbells which obviously is long gone now. There is nowhere to club until 3am in Starkville.

State theater in it's prime I would put that up against any bar, even former mugshots

[DEDawg]

This. Yeah there isn't a lot of places to go after college but in college there are plenty of bars and these kids go to house and frat parties. Yall are thinking like 40 year olds, not high school and late teens. Yeah Oxford has the square but other than that they have nothing more. What Oxford has that makes a difference is the town has a media presence and they have a solid football team and coach.
I?m in my 20s. Im telling you youre wrong on this. Theres 5 bars in the district and then Daves dark horse if thats your crowd. Its a huge problem for attracting talent to MSU

[SPMT]

Idk if you were in college a long time ago or what but this is not remotely accurate. You take a kid to the Library or Skybar or Alcove and then bring them to Starkville and tell them they get to go to the district and have a beer at the Bin that closes at midnight then go home. Does not translate well. Closest we ever had was Cowbells which obviously is long gone now. There is nowhere to club until 3am in Starkville.

Oxford is a better town for partying and eating. The restaurants are better, the bars are better.

If I?m a driven athlete looking to get to the next level, that shit isn?t on my radar though.

[TheLostDawg]

Fair enough.

But to the point about Starkville. It's crazy that there is a higher percentage of things to do after 7 pm that are "Bar" than Madison, Wisconsin.

More bars here, but i can go axe throwing, i can go roller derby, i can go casual skate, i can go laser tag, i can go bowling, i can go to an arcade (even a dave & buster's), i can go participate in a multitude of different casual sports (soccer, volleyball, softball, flag football, ultimate, disc golf, etc.), i can go walk around several different scenic trails, i can go do lake activities, i can go to the mall...

I can go on and on. Point is - if you aren't a person who watches TV all night after work, goes to State games on Saturday,go to church in the morning on Sunday - lunch after - late service after napping watching TV... starkville isn't your town and is not advertising for you to sow your roots long term.

That's what I don't understand. Why doesn't someone invest in these things there? Look at two brother. They built a larger bar in the cotton district which needed to be done years ago and now is probably the best bar day to day in starkville

[Quaoarsking]

Like... this is what JA was doing last night https://www.instagram.com/p/DDk1arDh8tS/

This is what he'd be doing if he came here tonight. https://www.instagram.com/p/DAbZ_OMvD8v/

See the difference to a 20 year old with a million dollars?

That first one looks awful, jeez....

[bulldawg28]

Idk if you were in college a long time ago or what but this is not remotely accurate. You take a kid to the Library or Skybar or Alcove and then bring them to Starkville and tell them they get to go to the district and have a beer at the Bin that closes at midnight then go home. Does not translate well. Closest we ever had was Cowbells which obviously is long gone now. There is nowhere to club until 3am in Starkville.

Lol, if you need to be in a club until 3 am to get a chick you've got bigger problems. A club closing doesn't stop any after hours activities. I'll keep saying it until you understand athletes DO NOT ATTEND COLLEGE BASED ON THE CLUB SCENE. Coaches at ALL university teach athletes to get in as early as possible.

[SPMT]

That first one looks awful, jeez....

No doubt. Bars yeah, more of a club environment like that?.:I?d rather eat dogshit.

[Brobi-wan]

Lol, if you need to be in a club until 3 am to get a chick you've got bigger problems. A club closing doesn't stop any after hours activities.

My man is still stuck on the hoes lmao

[bulldawg28]

My man is still stuck on the hoes lmao

Clubs and bars are "Bag a chick stations"...lol.

[Coach34]

If I?m a driven athlete looking to get to the next level, that shit isn?t on my radar though.

18-20 year olds getting away from their parents for the first time want to have fun. Maybe 10% of players dont factor in the college town they play in. You are looking at it from an adult perspective as opposed to a 20 year old perspective.

[DEDawg]

Lol, if you need to be in a club until 3 am to get a chick you've got bigger problems. A club closing doesn't stop any after hours activities. I'll keep saying it until you understand athletes DO NOT ATTEND COLLEGE BASED ON THE CLUB SCENE. Coaches at ALL university teach athletes to get in as early as possible.
Youre still wrong no matter how many times you type it in all caps but by all means

[parabrave]

I can beat you there. In 1984 I didn?t go to class from Halloween til Christmas and the next semester I was at Paris Island. Of course those were the late Ballard years so football was optional and mostly in Jackson.

I was about 100 miles up 95 from you. I would come down to visit my sis in 85 and end up at the crossroads. That was the nightlife back then.

[Todd4State]

Lol, if you need to be in a club until 3 am to get a chick you've got bigger problems. A club closing doesn't stop any after hours activities. I'll keep saying it until you understand athletes DO NOT ATTEND COLLEGE BASED ON THE CLUB SCENE. Coaches at ALL university teach athletes to get in as early as possible.

There are a lot of reasons for football players to stay out of clubs.

Like douchebag frat boys that want to impress someone by trying to beat up a linebacker.

[parabrave]

There are a lot of reasons for football players to stay out of clubs.

Like douchebag frat boys that want to impress someone by trying to beat up a linebacker.

Yep, Happens to more than FB players. Then the Frat boys learn at the wrong time that he skinny soldiers they messed with just graduated from Ranger School. Needless to say who went home with the Sorority babes.

[Bothrops]

Oxford is a better town for partying and eating. The restaurants are better, the bars are better.

If I?m a driven athlete looking to get to the next level, that shit isn?t on my radar though.

The biggest reason for this is women. Oxford has a much larger number of women out on the town than Starkville on a Thurs, Fri, Sat night. It makes all the difference. It brings larger crowds, which = more business and eventually, later business hours. Starkville is bro town where you go to a bar and the ratio is like 4/1 guys to gals. Women make the college scene.

[EdwardDrayton]

There are a lot of reasons for football players to stay out of clubs.

Like douchebag frat boys that want to impress someone by trying to beat up a linebacker.

Of course you always have that linebacker who beats on his own QB. ******

[Pancho]

a bar was not involved in said altercation

[SPMT]

The biggest reason for this is women. Oxford has a much larger number of women out on the town than Starkville on a Thurs, Fri, Sat night. It makes all the difference. It brings larger crowds, which = more business and eventually, later business hours. Starkville is bro town where you go to a bar and the ratio is like 4/1 guys to gals. Women make the college scene.

I can believe that