Toledo Game Thread

[DEDawg]

Do we get Dinkins back today?

[TrapGame]

Early much? /s

I thought Dink was out until Florida.

[DEDawg]

Early much? /s

I thought Dink was out until Florida.

Nobody started one last week until I did 5 min into the game so figured I?d get early start lol

[Offshore Dawg]

Apathy on this board is at an all-time high.

[DEDawg]

Apathy on this board is at an all-time high.
Which is weird. Unless you?re a revisionist after EKU, we all knew 5 wins this season is a great job, but 4 is possible. The season gonna be long and suck but let?s see progress each week and build for next season

[Dawgology]

Which is weird. Unless you?re a revisionist after EKU, we all knew 5 wins this season is a great job, but 4 is possible. The season gonna be long and suck but let?s see progress each week and build for next season

We have struggled recruiting. Our defense is non existent. Our offense is pedestrian. Our stadium is one of the worst if not the worst in the SEC (went to a high school game last night with better sound and lighting). Gameday experience is meh. Team is below average. Striking out in portal and recruiting. Unable to compete in SEC. Expecting a non-bowl season?again. Plus?our rival is light years ahead of us in every aspect from talent to recruiting to marketing/perception.

Why are State fans not hype???!!!!!! Lmao

[BulldogBear]

Does anyone know if they have the upstairs ball room with the big screens open today?

[Coursesuper]

I would absolutely not be shocked if we lost tonight.

[parabrave]

At least Brian Kelly isn't our coach

[Brobi-wan]

Hopefully I won’t have to sit in any rain this time out. Interested to see how me move on from last week.

[DEDawg]

We have struggled recruiting. Our defense is non existent. Our offense is pedestrian. Our stadium is one of the worst if not the worst in the SEC (went to a high school game last night with better sound and lighting). Gameday experience is meh. Team is below average. Striking out in portal and recruiting. Unable to compete in SEC. Expecting a non-bowl season?again. Plus?our rival is light years ahead of us in every aspect from talent to recruiting to marketing/perception.

Why are State fans not hype???!!!!!! Lmao

Recruiting has been fine on offense. I think we get rid of one certain defensive coach and can help defensive recruiting. Offense is not pedestrian. It?s the most exciting I?ve seen since 2015

[Dawgology]

Recruiting has been fine on offense. I think we get rid of one certain defensive coach and can help defensive recruiting. Offense is not pedestrian. It?s the most exciting I?ve seen since 2015

I wouldn?t go that far at all. They looked ok against and FCS opponent. Offense created 3 points and maybe 50 yards of offense in the first half. Pedestrian is being nice.

[DEDawg]

I wouldn?t go that far at all. They looked ok against and FCS opponent. Offense created 3 points and maybe 50 yards of offense in the first half. Pedestrian is being nice.

Nah. We had 2 50+ yard bombs dropped in that half or a BS ref call. Yeah that means we can get better, but this O is not pedestrian. Not even close.

[BulldogBear]

What the heck happened with the gigantic cowbell? Did anyone get hurt?

[HoopsDawg]

Could we not go off script after the hold? Geez, what was that.

[msstate7]

We're the worst rushing offense in the history of football

[Bdawg]

Great start with holding call to kill the drive. Still no push in the run game

[Dawgology]

Pedestrian offense

[StarkVegasSteve]

Holy shit!! A TFL!!!!

[chef dixon]

What is that screeching speaker noise??

[Bdawg]

Holy shit!! A TFL!!!!

4 man front. Ha

[Bdawg]

What is that screeching speaker noise??

No clue. It’s awful.

[StarkVegasSteve]

We need a TO here bad.

[HoopsDawg]

Someone pick up the RB out of the backfield. Horrible

[MoreCowbell]

Toledo is cruising on us lol

[Bdawg]

No pressure

[msstate7]

We are awful

[StarkVegasSteve]

Maybe we were only playing 3 down lineman because we have to have 8 in coverage

[Dawgology]

I?m not sure who was responsible for hiring the DC?or who held the purse strings too tight to get a sitting DC but that person is no friend of MSU.

[civildawg]

Ok I'm honestly starting to question Lebby as a hire. This is awful. Arnett would have been better

[Bdawg]

We can’t stop them even with them getting penalized

[NCMSTFAN]

Horrible Defense, no run game.... its going to be a long season!

[MBDawg601]

We are the worst team in the SEC and it's not close.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Getting pushed around by a low level P4 team is one thing, getting pushed around by a G5 team is something entirely different….and not in a good way.

[HoopsDawg]

We can't set the edge at all. No speed other than #2

[Dawgology]

Ok I'm honestly starting to question Lebby as a hire. This is awful. Arnett would have been better

Nah. We should have spent money and hired a HC. This epitomizes why State sports are so bad. Our budget people are too concerned with getting a good deal whether than committing to win.

[War Machine Dawg]

We can't stop anyone. Good thing we can make up for it by going 3 and out on offense.

[Bdawg]

And another DL down. Are we the worst at getting hurt where we are the thinnest to begin with?

[HoopsDawg]

We can't stop anyone. Good thing we can make up for it by going 3 and out on offense.

Really surprised we came out with 3 straight runs. The only thing we do well is throw it.

[Bdawg]

Ok I'm honestly starting to question Lebby as a hire. This is awful. Arnett would have been better

Lebby was handed a pile of shit. It’s going to be a while before it gets better.

[WSOPdawg]

Way to go Lanier!!! Way to get OWNED by a G5 receiver.

[LC Dawg]

What the heck happened with the gigantic cowbell? Did anyone get hurt?

It's embarrassing that we can't even get that right.

[mparkerfd20]

Lebby was handed a pile of shit. It’s going to be a while before it gets better.

Maybe. But his staff hires sucked ass and his offense has yet to impress.

[Bdawg]

Time for a stiffer drink

[HancockCountyDog]

Really surprised we came out with 3 straight runs. The only thing we do well is throw it.

I wanted us to run the ball this game, but this sucks.

[NCMSTFAN]

Lebby was handed a pile of shit. It’s going to be a while before it gets better.

He brought in alot of players from the portal too though.

[Bdawg]

Maybe. But his staff hires sucked ass and his offense has yet to impress.

Maybe but it?s 2 games in and he still has a pile of shit. I wonder if he got who he really wanted for DC and staff?

[Activated Alpha]

I know one thing for sure. We would get boat raced by Vandy. We are the Croom level bad

[MoreCowbell]

If we have learned anything this year it is that Eastern Kentucky is awful

[Bdawg]

He brought in alot of players from the portal too though.

Think he got everyone he wanted or had to settle?

[msstate7]

We didn't upgrade arnett

[Op4isabitch]

I?ve seen enough. We are horrible, catch you for BB and bb

[StarkVegasSteve]

3rd and 18 and 3rd and 17 on the first two drives. Our O line is getting blown up EVERY PLAY.

[MBDawg601]

Our punter is going to be sore tomorrow.

[mparkerfd20]

We didn't upgrade arnett

Quite possibly downgraded.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Basketball starts in 2 months at least we can count on Jans to have a solid team

[civildawg]

Think he got everyone he wanted or had to settle?

Think they still should be better than TOLEDO at home? Some of you people will make excuses for anything.

[WSOPdawg]

3rd and 18 and 3rd and 17 on the first two drives. Our O line is getting blown up EVERY PLAY.

I'm afraid we're gonna make Sunbelt Billy and the Gators look like a playoff team next week.

[War Machine Dawg]

.

[DesotoDog1967]

How much did State pay this little team to come down here and beat their ass

[99jc]

Worst talent i have seen since the 60's on both offense and defense minus a couple players.

[NCMSTFAN]

Think he got everyone he wanted or had to settle?

I'm sure he got some guys he wanted and also had to settle in some guys but I don't that he was handed over a bad team. With the portal now a days you can build a team really fast, alot of the guys on this roster are guys he brought in.

[Bdawg]

3rd and 18 and 3rd and 17 on the first two drives. Our O line is getting blown up EVERY PLAY.

Yep. And Lebby was praising the OL pre season. Doesn’t say much for our DL. Must have been against our 3 man front in practice that made them look good

[War Machine Dawg]

Lebby was handed a pile of shit. It’s going to be a while before it gets better.

Bingo. We're paying the price for hiring Leach. He left a roster devoid of talent and only capable of playing in his gimmick offense at Texas Tech and Wazzu, too. And we didn't exactly kill it in the portal even though we got a bunch of bodies.

I really hate to be the wet blanket, but I don't think we're going to be even minimally relevant again. We can't compete monetarily in the NIL era. Any good players we have will be bought away from us by richer programs - look no further than Woody. You can't even be a development program now because of the portal. We'll be lucky to stay in the SEC and not be kicked out down to G5.

[Bothrops]

We're a bunch of pussies

[Bdawg]

I'm sure he got some guys he wanted and also had to settle in some guys but I don't that he was handed over a bad team. With the portal now a days you can build a team really fast, alot of the guys on this roster are guys he brought in.

You don’t think we are bad team from last year?

[HoopsDawg]

Toledo is more talented and better coached than us.

[EdwardDrayton]

We're soft.

[StarkVegasSteve]

We blitz-They have open receivers everywhere
We do not blitz-They run it down our throats.

[msstate7]

Toledo is more talented and better coached than us.

You trashed me last week for statements like this

[NCMSTFAN]

You don’t think we are bad team from last year?
All of these players aren't Arnetts guys, Lebby brought in a bunch of them, that's all I'm saying

[99jc]

This makes me sick to my stomach!

[Bdawg]

Bingo. We're paying the price for hiring Leach. He left a roster devoid of talent and only capable of playing in his gimmick offense at Texas Tech and Wazzu, too. And we didn't exactly kill it in the portal even though we got a bunch of bodies.

I really hate to be the wet blanket, but I don't think we're going to be even minimally relevant again. We can't compete monetarily in the NIL era. Any good players we have will be bought away from us by richer programs - look no further than Woody. You can't even be a development program now because of the portal. We'll be lucky to stay in the SEC and not be kicked out down to G5.

Yep. It was just a matter of time. Said it from the beginning of NIL.

[MBDawg601]

It feels like we have a self imposed death penalty.

[msstate7]

Good play

[Bothrops]

Uh oh time for offense...

[Bdawg]

I'm sure he got some guys he wanted and also had to settle in some guys but I don't that he was handed over a bad team. With the portal now a days you can build a team really fast, alot of the guys on this roster are guys he brought in.

I think his second portal class will be telling. He has to get established some first

[Dawgology]

Bingo. We're paying the price for hiring Leach. He left a roster devoid of talent and only capable of playing in his gimmick offense at Texas Tech and Wazzu, too. And we didn't exactly kill it in the portal even though we got a bunch of bodies.

I really hate to be the wet blanket, but I don't think we're going to be even minimally relevant again. We can't compete monetarily in the NIL era. Any good players we have will be bought away from us by richer programs - look no further than Woody. You can't even be a development program now because of the portal. We'll be lucky to stay in the SEC and not be kicked out down to G5.

This. Our administration fumbled the ball with Mullen. We had all the momentum in the world. Since then we have had opportunities but our big money boosters keep fumbling the ball. This is the only constant. Why do we always suck? There is only one constant…the same boosters and administration keeps mismanaging. Yes…we change AD’s but there are a lot of people in our program that keep us down. It’s unfortunate but the gig is up and it won’t be fixed in the next decade.

[HoopsDawg]

You trashed me last week for statements like this

False. I trashed you for wanting Lebby fired.

[99jc]

and some of you want to pay more money to support this pile of crap!

[DawgFromOxford]

Apparently we can't do anything right

[Bdawg]

All of these players aren't Arnetts guys, Lebby brought in a bunch of them, that's all I'm saying

I get ya. But he was brand new and hasn’t proven anything. I’m sure was just trying to get who he could this round. We missed badly on defense too.

[StarkVegasSteve]

We have to abandon the run. Just not going to work this year.

[99jc]

all these mistakes are on Lebby poorly coached wont last 2 seasons here

[DesotoDog1967]

Leach ran the ball better than this

[StarkVegasSteve]

Our line is going to Shapen killed.

[MBDawg601]

The dude army
crawled to a sack.

[DawgFromOxford]

oh look at that 3rd and long again

[War Machine Dawg]

Shapen has to get rid of the ball or run. Holding it easy too long.

[HoopsDawg]

So 2-10 this year. Rough.

[TopDawg]

I can't believe that Toledo has more NIL money than we do.

[99jc]

high powered offense my arse

[BulldogBear]

Saved by a penalty. Still 4D. M.S.U.

[msstate7]

I know we don't have good talent, but we have enough to compete with this team. Our staff sucks, period

[Bothrops]

What we took to the desert last week has gotten worse.

[Activated Alpha]

So 2-10 this year. Rough.

Dude, where are you seeing us win another game from? This team is beyond a joke and would get embarrassed by Mississippi Valley

[EdwardDrayton]

Does Shapen have any friggin' progressions?!!??

[phatdog]

this is a really shitty team.

[HoopsDawg]

Isaac Smith is player

[msstate7]

So 2-10 this year. Rough.

After egg bowl 2025, we will be looking for yet another another coach

[Offshore Dawg]

I can only imagine how bad it will be against SEC offense and defensive lines.

[MBDawg601]

Our fans are ringing Cowbells like we scored for a punt coverage.

[HoopsDawg]

Dude, where are you seeing us win another game from? This team is beyond a joke and would get embarrassed by Mississippi Valley

I think we can nudge Umass.

[Bothrops]

The dude army
crawled to a sack.

This

[civildawg]

I know we don't have good talent, but we have enough to compete with this team. Our staff sucks, period

Agreed. Anyone defending this staff is sick in the head. We hired an offensive guy who has 5 yards in 1 quarter against a G5 school at home. That's unacceptable.

[HancockCountyDog]

That was a terrible quarter of offensive football.

[DesotoDog1967]

Lebby looked at State a being a springboard to a bigger program like Oklahoma, but he might be back OC somewhere

[sandjunky]

This team fukcing sucks

[War Machine Dawg]

Does Shapen have any friggin' progressions?!!??

No time to go through progressions. OL is getting their dicks knocked in the dirt.

[Activated Alpha]

Want to know how you can tell this is a poorly coached team? The defense were walking away from the line when Toledo lined up with a few seconds left in the quarter and just got 10 yards off that QB run

[BulldogBear]

Lol. We thought they were gonna let the clock run out. Our staff is a bunch of amateurs.

[HoopsDawg]

After egg bowl 2025, we will be looking for yet another another coach

We have to give Lebby 3 years if we see any improvement next season. He has to get this staff right.

[StarkVegasSteve]

That was Croom level bad offensively. Need some damn adjustments in all 3 phases.

[99jc]

And somewhere Arnett is petting his chickens and LOL

[MBDawg601]

8 yards of total offense.

[War Machine Dawg]

I can only imagine how bad it will be against SEC offense and defensive lines.

Not even competitive. We should just forfeit against Texas, TN and UGA. They might cripple some of these candy ass 'players.'

[HoopsDawg]

And somewhere Arnett is petting his chickens and LOL

Why? Arnett is not a head coach.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Didn’t Jason Candle interview for the State job? Why didn’t Selmon hire him?

[BuckyIsAB****]

Frat Boy Lebby

[Matt3467]

After egg bowl 2025, we will be looking for yet another another coach

It's truly incredible how far the Moorhead hire set us back. Cohen wrecked us. We should've thrown the bank at Mullen.

[tcdog70]

I guess these stupid announcers have never heard of ? first touching? if the kicking team first touches the ball, no matter what receiving team does, the receiving team has the option to take it where it was first touched.

[Pinto]

Isaac Smith is player

Who will be getting paid to wear a different uniform next season.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Selmon looks like absolute horse shit. Keenum is horse shit for his AD hire and his hire of Arnett and BP

[HoopsDawg]

Who will be getting paid to wear a different uniform next season.

Good for him

[War Machine Dawg]

Didn’t Jason Candle interview for the State job? Why didn’t Selmon hire him?

Because Candle isn't Boyz with Selmon. Really is that simple.

[memsu06]

You Leach haters have to admit he had the team better prepared than what we're seeing. We also would have more than 8 yards of offense in the first quarter and positive rushing yards.

[Bothrops]

We are back to the Croom age, only way worse on defense. So we may be worse than we've ever been.

[TopDawg]

Didn?t Jason Candle interview for the State job? Why didn?t Selmon hire him?

He wanted to hire his friend Lebby. He took the easy road.

[Matt3467]

We have to give Lebby 3 years if we see any improvement next season. He has to get this staff right.

I agree. Lebby needs 3 years. Going through 4 HCs in 5 years is not a good look.

[Bdawg]

Not even competitive. We should just forfeit against Texas, TN and UGA. They might cripple some of these candy ass 'players.'

Might not have enough players to finish the season

[HoopsDawg]

You Leach haters have to admit he had the team better prepared than what we're seeing. We also would have more than 8 yards of offense in the first quarter and positive rushing yards.

Why are you still talking about Leach? Why are people posting about Arnett?

[Activated Alpha]

I'm done for the night. This team is a joke and Lebby is a joke

[BuckyIsAB****]

Because Candle isn't Boyz with Selmon. Really is that simple.

Correct

[Apoplectic]

i?m still optimistic?-this is a damn good toledo team

[HoopsDawg]

He wanted to hire his friend Lebby. He took the easy road.

Meh, I liked the Lebby hire on paper. This is going to be a rough, rough year. But we have to give the guy a chance.

[HoopsDawg]

i?m still optimistic?-this is a damn good toledo team

LOL

[BeardoMSU]

Jesus, lol. We suck in ways I forgot we're possible.

[drummerdawg]

I miss the air raid

[Bothrops]

Who will be getting paid to wear a different uniform next season.

This is why we will never get any better. This program is in peril.

[civildawg]

Fire Keenum. Then fire selmon at the end of the year

[TopDawg]

i?m still optimistic?-this is a damn good toledo team

Good one!

[Dawgology]

8 yards of offense in the first quarter for the most exciting offense we have had in a long time. *

[Bdawg]

Because Candle isn't Boyz with Selmon. Really is that simple.

If Selmon didn’t hire the best candidate, he should be fired

[Activated Alpha]

Fire Keenum. Then fire selmon at the end of the year

I think we definitely need to fire Keenum

[War Machine Dawg]

You Leach haters have to admit he had the team better prepared than what we're seeing. We also would have more than 8 yards of offense in the first quarter and positive rushing yards.

😂 No. Leach wasn't using the portal and damn sure wasn't going to pay players enough to stay. Our problem is we're a poor school trying to compete in the era of big money and free facto free agency. Unless there's some serious regulation, our days of being even minimally relevant are gone. Farmers and engineers aren't competing with oil money, tech money, doctor & lawyer money.

[memsu06]

Meh, I liked the Lebby hire on paper. This is going to be a rough, rough year. But we have to give the guy a chance.

What concerns me is how unprepared we look. Kinda having Moorhead flashbacks. I know we need to give Lebby a chance, but we need to see this team improve somehow through the year.

[DawgFromOxford]

oh look a 1st down

[War Machine Dawg]

I think we definitely need to fire Keenum

Never happening. He's part of the Haley Barbour Cartel, thus he's protected.

[msstate7]

Lebby, please shut my mouth

[memsu06]

I'm waiting on the penalty that will kill this drive.

[BeardoMSU]

I think we definitely need to fire Keenum

This. Selmon has been great, especially fund raising/NIL. Some of y'all have lost your GD minds.

[BeardoMSU]

Never happening. He's part of the Haley Barbour Cartel, thus he's protected.

Very true.

[Bdawg]

Take a damn TO on 4th once you lost the speed, coach

[WSOPdawg]

I'm waiting on the penalty that will kill this drive.

there it is

[TopDawg]

I'm waiting on the penalty that will kill this drive.

You got it.

[HoopsDawg]

Too damn long in the stance. Enough with the motion.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I'm waiting on the penalty that will kill this drive.

You got it.

[Bdawg]

I'm waiting on the penalty that will kill this drive.

Poof! Your wish is granted

[mparkerfd20]

Whale... shit

[StarkVegasSteve]

Well we looked better that drive. We are going to have to be in tempo to have a chance against anyone this year.

[HoopsDawg]

Come on 21! Make the tackle

[HoopsDawg]

I don't like the DC hire, the OL hire and I'm beginning to question the SC hire.

[WSOPdawg]

too many missed tackles. It gonna be bad when SEC teams hit the schedule.

[DownwardDawg]

Time to go to Walmart and buy a Roll Tide shirt. Lol

[Bothrops]

I'm almost convinced that MSU coaches start living in an alternative reality after just a few months on campus. This could be a good place to redo a Twilight Zone series.

[MBDawg601]

Toledo could be a playoff team.

[Matt3467]

can NIL payments be taken away or reduced due to poor performance? Some of these players need to be fired.

[memsu06]

My Dad said I needed to adopt another SEC team.

[msstate7]

I don't like the DC hire, the OL hire and I'm beginning to question the SC hire.

Who made the hires?

[Bdawg]

can NIL payments be taken away or reduced due to poor performance? Some of these players need to be fired.

Why not? They may quit but they suck anyway

[DawgFromOxford]

No push, bad angles, poor tackling. Just what we all wanted

[HoopsDawg]

Who made the hires?

Your mom

[Bdawg]

Who made the hires?

Should have definitely got a guy who has at least called the defense in the last year

[TopDawg]

No defense at all. They are faster and more physical than us.

[StarkVegasSteve]

This one is over. And by one I mean season.

[Bothrops]

My Dad said I needed to adopt another SEC team.

Your dad has wise advice

[MBDawg601]

Tennessee scored 37 points in the first quarter.

[Matt3467]

This one is over. And by one I mean season.

Yep. This was the easy part of the schedule...

[gravedigger]

THIS is why you don't let message boards run off/determine who your coach is.

Thank you fellow state fans.

We have EXACTLY what we deserve.

Don't bitch.

[EdwardDrayton]

I hope this DC has some other career options.

[msstate7]

Your mom
She sucks then. I'd fire her

[PMDawg]

.

[Matt3467]

What I don't understand is why State should ever be considered a place for first time DCs. Are we that low that we couldn't have gone out and hired someone with real experience? Yea he coached with Saban but reminds me of the Croom hire when I heard some say "he played for the Bear!"

[msudawg1200]

Should have definitely got a guy who has at least called the defense in the last year

But he coached for Saban. Roll Tide!!!

[Matt3467]

This team is unwatchable. But there's no reason for them to care. These guys have no allegiance to MSU, don't care about MSU, and will just go collect a check to suck somewhere else next year. They're all punks.

^^^

[msstate7]

Man, this offense is great

[phatdog]

what a shitty football program

[PMDawg]

.

[memsu06]

How to places like AZ St and Toledo have players that play with more enthusiasm than what we have access to the Southeast with more NFL talent per capita than other areas of the country?

This is embarrassing for an SEC team.

[Dawgology]

What I don't understand is why State should ever be considered a place for first time DCs. Are we that low that we couldn't have gone out and hired someone with real experience? Yea he coached with Saban but reminds me of the Croom hire when I heard some say "he played for the Bear!"

Because our “non-appointable” administration remains a weight dragging this program down and it will literally never change without a complete administrative overhaul.

[civildawg]

Guys, come on let's be real. We fired Arnett for less. We are about to get blown out by a G5 school at home.

[Bothrops]

This one is over. And by one I mean season.

A hell of a lot more is over than just the season.

[Turfdawg67]

Shit team, shit logo, EKU and 11 here we come.

[EdwardDrayton]

We're not only bad but apparently we're stupid too.

[BulldogBear]

They're going to score AND we're going into halftime with all three of our timeouts on the board.

[mparkerfd20]

I said last week we'll never recover. Ever. I'm even more firm in that now. The football program is completely over forever.

[HoopsDawg]

ASU must suck.

[msstate7]

Shit team, shit logo, EKU and 11 here we come.

1 week later, you come around to my way of thinking

[HoopsDawg]

Shit team, shit logo, EKU and 11 here we come.

Good point. Our university can't even get the helmet sticker right.

[Bothrops]

I said last week we'll never recover. Ever. I'm even more firm in that now. The football program is completely over forever.

This could be true, and I'd love to hear from someone who disagrees. No coach can do it here now.

[civildawg]

I said last week we'll never recover. Ever. I'm even more firm in that now. The football program is completely over forever.

Agreed. I guess I've been in denial but it's over for us. The Moorhead hire started this downward spiral and Leach stopped the bleeding but Arnett followed by Lebby has put the nail in the coffin

[Offshore Dawg]

Can State drop football and stay in the SEC.

[Dawgology]

A hell of a lot more is over than just the season.

Yep. State football will not be in the new cut. It’s directly on our administration and big boosters. Hope they are happy.

[memsu06]

Wonder if Mullen would consider another run?

[msstate7]

Can State drop football and stay in the SEC.

The better question is can we wear our 2-10 every year and fund baseball and MBK?

[msstate7]

Wonder if Mullen would consider another run?

Don't think his style works in portal era. I mean he'd skull frick Lebby, but he wouldn't touch previous success

[BigDawg81]

This is embarrassing

[EdwardDrayton]

I would make the defense practice in skirts this week.

[Bothrops]

Wonder if Mullen would consider another run?

He wouldn't do as well as he did before.

[BulldogBear]

Shit team, shit logo, EKU and 11 here we come.

This. Can we stop gushes about this stupid generic script state. It looks almost exactly like NMSU logo, a place I went to a game at 2 weeks ago.

There are more than a few people on this board that legit believe that when a person in (insert random location) says "State" they are referring to Mississippi State.

[Bothrops]

I would make the defense practice in skirts this week.

They may like it though

[phatdog]

what a shitty production

[EdwardDrayton]

They may like it though

LOL!!!

[DesotoDog1967]

What's Lebby's buyout?

[TheLostDawg]

Can we get someone else to call the defense?

[Offshore Dawg]

I hope none of you idiots bet on State and gave the points.

[coastratdog]

Fire this POS DC tomorrow morning

[cheewgumm]

If you say anything bad about Mullen after watching this you should slap yourself.

Ha. (Dont literally)

[HoopsDawg]

Add bad clock management to the list.

[msstate7]

Add bad clock management to the list.

I really feel you owe me an apology (or beer)

[HoopsDawg]

If you say anything bad about Mullen after watching this you should slap yourself.

Ha. (Dont literally)

He's a PoS for leaving us for the UF job and so is loafers.

[TUSK]

THIS is why you don't let message boards run off/determine who your coach is.

Thank you fellow state fans.

We have EXACTLY what we deserve.

Don't bitch.

check your PMs, Digger...

[HoopsDawg]

I really feel you owe me an apology (or beer)

Hold your breath.

[TopDawg]

We have a new tradition "3 points in the first half".

[EdwardDrayton]

Just when I didn't think it could get worse.

[War Machine Dawg]

Agreed. I guess I've been in denial but it's over for us. The Moorhead hire started this downward spiral and Leach stopped the bleeding but Arnett followed by Lebby has put the nail in the coffin

Has way more to do with NIL and the portal. We could've survived a couple bad coaching hires. But we can't survive college football becoming semipro football.

[HaggardDawg]

Showtime

[StarkVegasSteve]

Really do not mind going for the score there. A FG does nothing for us.

[Turfdawg67]

What's Lebby's buyout?

What difference does it make?!? It'd be our 6th coach since 2017. Just burn it to the ground. It's over, Johnny.

[Bothrops]

Really do not mind going for the score there. A FG does nothing for us.

True

[DawgFromOxford]

its ok guys we are a halfway through the 3rd quarter team

[TopDawg]

They told me "cheer up things could be worse", so I cheered up and things got worse.

[msstate7]

Hold your breath.

I'll take that as a you were right.

[Bothrops]

He's a PoS for leaving us for the UF job and so is loafers.

Agree 100 percent

[MoreCowbell]

I am genuinely sad. No hyperbole, our program is done for.

[War Machine Dawg]

This. Can we stop gushes about this stupid generic script state. It looks almost exactly like NMSU logo, a place I went to a game at 2 weeks ago.

There are more than a few people on this board that legit believe that when a person in (insert random location) says "State" they are referring to Mississippi State.

Said this for ages. Way too many schools with "State" in their name for us to market ourselves that way. I immediately know who the idiots on this board are when they suggest and defend that shit.

[HoopsDawg]

I'll take that as a you were right.

Yeah, I mean you are completely delusional. Your posts last week were just annoying and stupid. Go back and read them.

[civildawg]

Has way more to do with NIL and the portal. We could've survived a couple bad coaching hires. But we can't survive college football becoming semipro football.

NIL and the portal aren't the reasons we are losing to freaking Toledo

[msstate7]

I am genuinely sad. No hyperbole, our program is done for.

Give the money to Jans.

[Matt3467]

Wish we'd embrace the bully logo more. Not sure why that isn't used as much.

[HoopsDawg]

Has way more to do with NIL and the portal. We could've survived a couple bad coaching hires. But we can't survive college football becoming semipro football.

The demise of Juco has really hurt our program as well.

[msstate7]

Yeah, I mean you are completely delusional. Your posts last week were just annoying and stupid. Go back and read them.

Cliffs notes for everyone - I said we suck, made the wrong hire, and we would need a new coach for 2026 season.

[Turfdawg67]

Getting roughshod and run over by Toledo. Lol!!

[Bothrops]

It would take 2 or 3 million dollars for us to buy a real d-line now. Another million or so to keep the guys we can't afford to lose.

[Matt3467]

NIL and the portal aren't the reasons we are losing to freaking Toledo

It's a factor though. Just like coaching turnover and bad hires are.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Cliffs notes for everyone - I said we suck, made the wrong hire, and we would need a new coach for 2026 season.

Right or wrong you are no different than KB. You would rather be right and State suck than be wrong and we be good.

[TopDawg]

NIL and the portal aren't the reasons we are losing to freaking Toledo

This^^^^^

[StarkVegasSteve]

It would take 2 or 3 million dollars for us to buy a real d-line now. Another million or so to keep the guys we can't afford to lose.

Complete honesty here….who exactly would you classify as cannot afford to lose?

[Bothrops]

Cliffs notes for everyone - I said we suck, made the wrong hire, and we would need a new coach for 2026 season.

We hired an offense which is better odds than what we've done in the past.

[Matt3467]

It would take 2 or 3 million dollars for us to buy a real d-line now. Another million or so to keep the guys we can't afford to lose.

Who are the guys on D we can't afford to lose? I can't say there's one guy on D we can afford to keep.