View Full Version : Some SEC QB rankings headed into the season
Coach34
07-07-2024, 11:24 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2024 SEC QB Rankings <a href="https://t.co/nUm6aanmrw">pic.twitter.com/nUm6aanmrw</a></p>— SEC Mike (@MichaelWBratton) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelWBratton/status/1809732559380639765?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 6, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I'd have to put Beck ahead of Joe Dirt
I think our offense will put Shapen in a position to be more successful than a few ranked ahead of him as long as he can stay healthy
BrunswickDawg
07-07-2024, 11:31 AM
I do love how guys like this look at Shapen last season - injured, concussed, on a bad team, and like to ignore 2022 when he was an impact player.
StarkVegasSteve
07-07-2024, 11:55 AM
8-14 combined might have made as many starts as Shapen alone. This is why I put ABSOLUTELY ZERO stock in any preseason predictions from anyone in the media. I mean hell, last year our own media was telling everyone they were idiots for not thinking we were going to win 8 games.
BigDawg81
07-07-2024, 12:18 PM
5500 passings in his career with 36 tds and only played in 8 games last year. 6 to 7 QBs ranked ahead of him haven?t done anything.
bigbub50
07-07-2024, 02:52 PM
Also, Shapen was playing in more of a pro-style offensive with long developing play action. He has the tools. He is more athletic than Gabriel and possibly has a better arm. What Gabriel had was several seasons under this offense. Shapen’s keys to success is picking up the offense quickly and staying healthy. The O line is going to have to gel to help with the health.
Dawgface
07-07-2024, 04:11 PM
Playoff bound baby! Not forecasting the year however.
SpaceBully
07-07-2024, 04:58 PM
Have to agree with Brady Cook at #1, but surprised Milroe is that low.
Political Hack
07-08-2024, 01:19 PM
Have to agree with Brady Cook at #1, but surprised Milroe is that low.
I'm not a huge fan of Milroe. Unbelievable athlete but not the QB I want playing against truly elite defenses. I know everyone says otherwise, but he'd be somewhere around 8-10 on my list.
Vandagriff and Arnold would be a little higher.
StarkVegasSteve
07-08-2024, 01:23 PM
I would have Vandagriff higher because I think he's better than 4 or 5 ahead of him and I would have Pavia and Shapen ahead of the guys who have started a game or started no games because both those guys have started and won games.
MedDawg
07-08-2024, 01:26 PM
Also, Shapen was playing in more of a pro-style offensive with long developing play action. He has the tools. He is more athletic than Gabriel and possibly has a better arm. What Gabriel had was several seasons under this offense. Shapen?s keys to success is picking up the offense quickly and staying healthy. The O line is going to have to gel to help with the health.
Our plays in the spring game moved very quickly. I mean the plays themselves, not the hurry up. We would do three fakes in one play so quickly I couldn't follow them from the 50 yard line.
Political Hack
07-08-2024, 01:43 PM
I'd have a hard time not having Ewers #1 too.
BulldogDX55
07-08-2024, 03:43 PM
Shapen will end the season in the top half for sure. Putting completely untested new starters ahead of him is a joke.
I like this. We always do better with low expectations, especially when we feel disrespected.
StarkVegasSteve
07-08-2024, 03:56 PM
Shapen will end the season in the top half for sure. Putting completely untested new starters ahead of him is a joke.
I like this. We always do better with low expectations, especially when we feel disrespected.
Except last year. The national media had low expectations and we could barely hit those.
Mjoelner34
07-08-2024, 04:01 PM
Our plays in the spring game moved very quickly. I mean the plays themselves, not the hurry up. We would do three fakes in one play so quickly I couldn't follow them from the 50 yard line.
I noticed that too. Even when we weren't running the 'hurry up', it just looked like we were playing faster.
StarkVegasSteve
07-08-2024, 04:20 PM
I noticed that too. Even when we weren't running the 'hurry up', it just looked like we were playing faster.
That's what happens when you don't huddle and don't have to stare at the sideline for 20 seconds getting the playcall. The QB now gets the playcall in his helmet and either he is signaling to the players or they are looking to the sidelines for what they do. It also helps when you have a staff that has run this "fast break on grass" offense at other places. We are taking what Kiffin does with the tempo and putting Lebby's touch on it
You will see a lot of the no huddle teams playing even faster than usual.
confucius say
07-08-2024, 04:25 PM
That's what happens when you don't huddle and don't have to stare at the sideline for 20 seconds getting the playcall. The QB now gets the playcall in his helmet and either he is signaling to the players or they are looking to the sidelines for what they do. It also helps when you have a staff that has run this "fast break on grass" offense at other places. We are taking what Kiffin does with the tempo and putting Lebby's touch on it
You will see a lot of the no huddle teams playing even faster than usual.
Kiffin took alot of the tempo stuff from Kendal Briles at FAU and then Lebby.
OM went faster when lebby was there than 2022-23.
In the video I linked the other day, lebby talks about how much they practice the process from end of whistle to snap. Getting up, ball spotted, alignment, snap. He put kiffin onto a lot of that.
Should be entertaining if nothing else.
StarkVegasSteve
07-08-2024, 04:28 PM
Kiffin took alot of the tempo stuff from Kendal Briles at FAU and then Lebby.
OM went faster when lebby was there than 2022-23.
In the video I linked the other day, lebby talks about how much they practice the process from end of whistle to snap. Getting up, ball spotted, alignment, snap. He put kiffin onto a lot of that.
Should be entertaining if nothing else.
Well and that's what I meant with Lebby's touch. He goes even faster than Kiffin. He teaches the players to run the ball to the officials while the other 10 are running to the LOS. They are getting the play at this time too. It's a lot of moving parts but they have perfected it.
Mjoelner34
07-08-2024, 04:59 PM
That's what happens when you don't huddle and don't have to stare at the sideline for 20 seconds getting the playcall. The QB now gets the playcall in his helmet and either he is signaling to the players or they are looking to the sidelines for what they do. It also helps when you have a staff that has run this "fast break on grass" offense at other places. We are taking what Kiffin does with the tempo and putting Lebby's touch on it
You will see a lot of the no huddle teams playing even faster than usual.
I'm not sure if Med was talking about this but I'm talking about after the ball was snapped. It looked like the plays developed faster and decisions were quicker when the ball was put in the air.
Mjoelner34
07-08-2024, 05:01 PM
Well and that's what I meant with Lebby's touch. He goes even faster than Kiffin. He teaches the players to run the ball to the officials while the other 10 are running to the LOS. They are getting the play at this time too. It's a lot of moving parts but they have perfected it.
Jonesing for football, I've watched a lot of Lebby from UCF, Ole Miss and OK. A lot of times on runs up the middle, you'll see outside receivers looking to get lined up as the back is getting up from the tackle.
Cooterpoot
07-08-2024, 09:06 PM
SEC Mike is the Stingray of QB ratings
Homedawg
07-08-2024, 10:01 PM
SEC Mike is the Stingray of QB ratings
Well done!!!
MedDawg
07-09-2024, 11:53 AM
I'm not sure if Med was talking about this but I'm talking about after the ball was snapped. It looked like the plays developed faster and decisions were quicker when the ball was put in the air.
Yes, that's what I meant. Before, even with the qb already back, it seemed to take forever to get the snap, fake handoff to the running back, then look up to pass. Receivers had been open downfield early but the long play development allowed the CB to catch up.
MoreCowbell
07-09-2024, 04:45 PM
Have to agree with Brady Cook at #1, but surprised Milroe is that low.
Cook is legit. I bet he goes #1 next draft
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