For all you Hud lovers...

[ShotgunDawg]

Do any of you have 8-10 million dollars? If so then we may have a new coach next year, if not then Dan is the Man. Dan will be head coach here next year so all this bs about Hud is simply delusional. We will have 2-3 new assistants, but most of the folks here have no clue. Dan would have to do something completely illegal or unethical to lose his job. Period. If we lay an egg next year then I could see a change happening, but it isn't happening this year no matter what anyone thinks. Oh, the money figure I mentioned. That is what Dan's buyout plus the new coach and his assistants salary would be, so again, it isn't happening.

Again, I'm a Mullen supporter, but you can't say this. I seriously doubt money would be the concern if the right people felt it was the right thing to do.

Stop throwing out that you know what the decision is when a decision hasn't been made. Why is it so hard for people to just wait?

[engie]

Do any of you have 8-10 million dollars? If so then we may have a new coach next year, if not then Dan is the Man. Dan will be head coach here next year so all this bs about Hud is simply delusional. We will have 2-3 new assistants, but most of the folks here have no clue. Dan would have to do something completely illegal or unethical to lose his job. Period. If we lay an egg next year then I could see a change happening, but it isn't happening this year no matter what anyone thinks. Oh, the money figure I mentioned. That is what Dan's buyout plus the new coach and his assistants salary would be, so again, it isn't happening.

I can't even wrap my mind around everything you got wrong in this. While giving even more absolutes that are truly hilarious.

If you don't have a clue, don't pretend that you do, while calling out the rest of us. MONEY will have nothing to do with ANY coaching decision we decide to make. Buyout funding is already secured. That part is well-known "among people that have a clue" -- even among the people that still support Mullen.

And please provide us with your math that arrived at such a ridiculous buyout figure. I'd love to see it.

[engie]

Again, I'm a Mullen supporter, but you can't say this. I seriously doubt money would be the concern if the right people felt it was the right thing to do.

Stop throwing out that you know what the decision is when a decision hasn't been made. Why is it so hard for people to just wait?

Exactly. I know we disagree sometimes -- but you are 100% spot on in this analysis. There's no way to take anyone seriously that is speaking in absolutes right now. They make themselves look silly by even trying.

We can discuss all we want about what we think should happen -- and how/what signs are pointing to that happening -- but anything beyond that is totally ridiculous.

[bobcat91]

Exactly. I know we disagree sometimes -- but you are 100% spot on in this analysis. There's no way to take anyone seriously that is speaking in absolutes right now. They make themselves look silly by even trying.

We can discuss all we want about what we think should happen -- and how/what signs are pointing to that happening -- but anything beyond that is totally ridiculous.

Talk to me in January and we will see who is right. This isn't happening and all the fantasies you Hud lovers have isn't going to make it so. You are so afraid that Mullen is going to be back that you want to riot. It is so funny. Mullen has had one bad year, so fire him? It isn't going to happen. HAHAHAHA.

[Todd4State]

Talk to me in January and we will see who is right. This isn't happening and all the fantasies you Hud lovers have isn't going to make it so. You are so afraid that Mullen is going to be back that you want to riot. It is so funny. Mullen has had one bad year, so fire him? It isn't going to happen. HAHAHAHA.

WTF?

Yeah- just like all of those Bobby Wallace lovers in 1996 were pissed when Jackie turned it around by beating Alabama and Ole Miss.**

[Todd4State]

Do any of you have 8-10 million dollars? If so then we may have a new coach next year, if not then Dan is the Man. Dan will be head coach here next year so all this bs about Hud is simply delusional. We will have 2-3 new assistants, but most of the folks here have no clue. Dan would have to do something completely illegal or unethical to lose his job. Period. If we lay an egg next year then I could see a change happening, but it isn't happening this year no matter what anyone thinks. Oh, the money figure I mentioned. That is what Dan's buyout plus the new coach and his assistants salary would be, so again, it isn't happening.

Name the 2-3 assistants that are going to be gone?

Les? Maybe but I doubt it and I doubt it matters anyway.
Hevesey? Nope.
Sallach? Nope.
Gonzalez? Nope.
Knox? Highly unlikely.
Turner? I doubt it.
Collins? No.
Hughes? Our best recruiter- No.
Townsend? Maybe he leaves on his own because he is a darn good coach with NFL ties but we're not going to fire him.

[engie]

Talk to me in January and we will see who is right. This isn't happening and all the fantasies you Hud lovers have isn't going to make it so. You are so afraid that Mullen is going to be back that you want to riot. It is so funny. Mullen has had one bad year, so fire him? It isn't going to happen. HAHAHAHA.

Put down the drink.

Ignorance only knows how to project more ignorance. Thanks for that ridiculously simple-minded diatribe.

[bobcat91]

Name the 2-3 assistants that are going to be gone?

Les? Maybe but I doubt it and I doubt it matters anyway.
Hevesey? Nope.
Sallach? Nope.
Gonzalez? Nope.
Knox? Highly unlikely.
Turner? I doubt it.
Collins? No.
Hughes? Our best recruiter- No.
Townsend? Maybe he leaves on his own because he is a darn good coach with NFL ties but we're not going to fire him.

Yeah Todd, shoot the messenger. Mullen isn't going anywhere. Not this year at least. Stricklin is an idiot, but even he saw what happens when we fire a coach, Stansbury, and expect to make that next great hire. We got Jackie because he was a pariah and out of coaching. Croom, was and NFL assistant 20 years removed from college coaching. Mullen has average 8 wins a season, but yeah lets fire him as well. Do you remember who were the finalists for this job? Mullen and Wilson the OC from Oklahoma. We aren't firing an 8 win a season coach after this one year. I agree with you most of the time in baseball, but all the crying in the world isn't getting a coaching change this year. We got Cohen because he was an alumni and Butch because he is from Mississippi and out of work. We got Ray because Stricklin is doing the hiring. God help us on the next hire. As far as assistants-we always have a couple leave. Les, Hev and Salach could all be gone, some on their own accord and Townsend to the NFL is a possibility. Enjoy more Hud wet dreams.

[engie]

lol

[bobcat91]

lol

See you in January when Mullen is still our coach.

[engie]

K. Feel free to link me to where I said "Dan Mullen will be fired this year and will not be our coach next year" if you can? THAT'S what I thought.

You are guessing at the future in absolutes -- a future that is FAR from currently certain. Yet you fail to realize the ridiculousness of your approach -- even AFTER I spelled it out for you before your first post in this very thread. The ignorance in that is almost overwhelming really.

A one sentence reply -- and you still totally FUBAR the details. Gotta love those January coaching searches**

[bobcat91]

Here are some absolutes for you. Hud has never won the Sun Belt. Hud has no signature wins. He even got hammered by Arkansas this year who along with UK are the worst teams in the SEC, yet you think he will perform miracles. He did not bring in one game changing recruit while at MSU, yet you think he would be recruiting lights out. He got hammered by Freeze the one game they played: he lost 50-27. But he is the MSU miracle man. How's that for absolutes. And yes, coaching searches many times wait until bowl games are over in January.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Sallach was given an off the field position when Gonzalez was hired at WR and Brewster was going to coach TE's. Brewster bailed for FSU and we were left scrambling to fill the spot.

[Dawgfan77]

Here are some absolutes for you. Hud has never won the Sun Belt. Hud has no signature wins. He even got hammered by Arkansas this year who along with UK are the worst teams in the SEC, yet you think he will perform miracles. He did not bring in one game changing recruit while at MSU, yet you think he would be recruiting lights out. He got hammered by Freeze the one game they played: he lost 50-27. But he is the MSU miracle man. How's that for absolutes. And yes, coaching searches many times wait until bowl games are over in January.

Your agrument is sooo weak! Lets start with your points
Hud has never won the sun belt.. He will this year
Hud has no signature wind... Beat Petrino and Ark State this year, and played FL to the wire last year. Where is Dan's signature win??
He lost to Ark, Not sure your point here but SEC>Sun belt talent
No game changers.. Had Hud stayed we would have kept CJ and Singleton
He got hammered by Freeze... So did Mullen and will again this year

Mullen cannt get it done and I dont know if Hud will but he resume and the fact he is averaging 9 wins at ULL along with his stint as HC at UNA leads me to believe he will be a much better coach than Dan Mullen

[RougeDawg]

Please see the thread I started regarding the consensus amongst former player who are still very involved in the program. It most likely doesn't matter what Dan does the final 4 games, unless he wins 3 of them. They've basically written him off, and see where this train is headed. They would be the most likely to know, of any of the alumni out there. They've been closer to the program than any of us.

[DawgsBite34]

I would lose all faith in our leadership. It would make zero sense based on his performance up to this point. If you have ever hired and fired you would understand my point. By they way, you can spin the 5-7 prediction I made in early August, but nobody realized how bad Ark would be, and we still haven't beat Ark yet, but you can't deny that I have been spot on so far with my assessment of this year's team. Mullen will be judged based on next years performance ... All of this Hud talk is similar to amateur sports radio bs... Meaningless!

it would make zero sense??????? WTF?????????

[MarketingBully01]

Didn't we have Byrne as our AD then? Oh how I miss those days.

[MarketingBully01]

8-10 million dollars is nothing to an alumni base of a major university. You are an idiot if you think this is an obstacle. Besides, they never pay out the full buy out price at once anyway. We have quite a few alumni that are worth $100 million+. Do you guys even realize this?

[C222]

Same was true for Croom in 08 as well. No way we could get rid of a coach 1 year removed from national coach of the year honors...with a terribly injured team that played most opponents very well...

The most delusional people in this whole debate are the ones that say there's "no way" something will or won't happen.

I'm not saying I want to keep him. Just posting what I was told. I think it's time for a change, I just don't believe there will be one.

[PMDawg]

I would lose all faith in our leadership. It would make zero sense based on his performance up to this point. If you have ever hired and fired you would understand my point. By they way, you can spin the 5-7 prediction I made in early August, but nobody realized how bad Ark would be, and we still haven't beat Ark yet, but you can't deny that I have been spot on so far with my assessment of this year's team. Mullen will be judged based on next years performance ... All of this Hud talk is similar to amateur sports radio bs... Meaningless!

I have, and I totally disagree with you. Actually, I'd wager that a majority of people on here have since we are mostly degreed professionals and business owners. So, that's one more thing you can add to the list of things you need to stop patting your own back about.