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Originally Posted by
smootness
Nike actually does use that logo for at least one team. It's some D2 or D3 school, maybe Montana State, but they do use it. I'm guessing it would cost a lot to get it back, and we've already made the decision to run with the M-State. It is what it is, there's really no point in rehashing it.
Dawg61, if you think someone needs to be fired over every little thing you don't like, I'm not really sure what to tell you. Whether or not we use the M-S-U or M-State really just is not that big of a deal.
Problem is we've been asking for it back for over ten ****ing years now. And it ain't just a few of us. It's like the ENTIRE fan base. So at some point it stops being just not a big deal and it changes into the fact the Athletic Department refuses to listen to the fan base. That is a big deal. I'm tired of asking for it back. WE are tired of asking for it back. I'll ask nicely the first 1,000 times. That ain't working. DEMAND the ****ing logo back from Nike or BUY IT BACK.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
Problem is we've been asking for it back for over ten ****ing years now. And it ain't just a few of us. It's like the ENTIRE fan base. So at some point it stops being just not a big deal and it changes into the fact the Athletic Department refuses to listen to the fan base. That is a big deal. I'm tired of asking for it back. WE are tired of asking for it back. I'll ask nicely the first 1,000 times. That ain't working. DEMAND the ****ing logo back from Nike or BUY IT BACK.
OR LET IT GO. We have moved on from that logo if you haven't noticed and we are NOT going back to it.
Moving to M-State was one of the last things Ole Lar did before getting kicked out by Doc. Obviously he decided it wasn't worth the money (what a surprise).
"Demand" all you want. Shot Scott a letter with that Demand and see where it gets you. (you might want to include a big check check...)
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Originally Posted by
ScoobaDawg
OR LET IT GO. We have moved on from that logo if you haven't noticed and we are NOT going back to it.
Moving to M-State was one of the last things Ole Lar did before getting kicked out by Doc. Obviously he decided it wasn't worth the money (what a surprise).
"Demand" all you want. Shot Scott a letter with that Demand and see where it gets you. (you might want to include a big check check...)
Letting it go means Nike and the small shit school using the logo win. It also means our Ath Dep. went spineless again and refuses to fight for our damn logo back. This is ****ing pathetic. What do you think would happen if suddenly the University of Alabama could no longer use that stupid Atlanta Braves A with gay flair on it anymore? People and farm animals would die. Fight fight fight Mississippi State you're DAMN RIGHT!!! Not "forget about it and get over it we'll just let them have it Mississippi State we ain't right".
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
Letting it go means Nike and the small shit school using the logo win. It also means our Ath Dep. went spineless again and refuses to fight for our damn logo back. This is ****ing pathetic. What do you think would happen if suddenly the University of Alabama could no longer use that stupid Atlanta Braves A with gay flair on it anymore? People and farm animals would die. Fight fight fight Mississippi State you're DAMN RIGHT!!! Not "forget about it and get over it we'll just let them have it Mississippi State we ain't right".
You're going insane over this. The mistake we made was allowing Nike to own the logo to begin with. That could have been worked out when they created it, but we allowed them to own it, so they now own it. In order to get it back, we can't just say, 'Give it back to us' loudly. We have to pay them, and I'm assuming they would want quite a bit for it. The administration has shown it isn't going to spend the money to get it back. So you can either continue to get angrier and angrier and claim people need to be fired, or you can accept that and move on.
Just because parts of the fanbase want it back doesn't mean the administration should do it or they're 'not listening'. Maybe they've listened and decided it isn't a good decision. That's what they're there for; they aren't there just to take polls; they make decisions. They've decided it's in the best interest of our athletic department not to buy it back and to stick with the M-State. I'm sure if enough people were so upset over it they threatened pulling money, they may re-think that.
But I'm pretty sure most just think, 'Yeah, I liked that logo, I wish we could get it back' and not, 'THIS IS INSANE! THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING OUR ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT CAN DO!' like you evidently do.
Not getting a logo we used for 8 years back is just not a fireable offense. If you think it is, you're crazy. And we can still use the other interlocking MSU logos we used (I assume); the fact that we're not tells you our AD doesn't want to use it. Period.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
You're going insane over this. The mistake we made was allowing Nike to own the logo to begin with. That could have been worked out when they created it, but we allowed them to own it, so they now own it. In order to get it back, we can't just say, 'Give it back to us' loudly. We have to pay them, and I'm assuming they would want quite a bit for it. The administration has shown it isn't going to spend the money to get it back. So you can either continue to get angrier and angrier and claim people need to be fired, or you can accept that and move on.
Just because parts of the fanbase want it back doesn't mean the administration should do it or they're 'not listening'. Maybe they've listened and decided it isn't a good decision. That's what they're there for; they aren't there just to take polls; they make decisions. They've decided it's in the best interest of our athletic department not to buy it back and to stick with the M-State. I'm sure if enough people were so upset over it they threatened pulling money, they may re-think that.
But I'm pretty sure most just think, 'Yeah, I liked that logo, I wish we could get it back' and not, 'THIS IS INSANE! THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING OUR ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT CAN DO!' like you evidently do.
Not getting a logo we used for 8 years back is just not a fireable offense. If you think it is, you're crazy. And we can still use the other interlocking MSU logos we used (I assume); the fact that we're not tells you our AD doesn't want to use it. Period.
Don't waste your time; you are engaging a fool.
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Originally Posted by
SignalToNoise
Don't waste your time; you are engaging a fool.
Second name calling post from you directed to me in the last half hour. Keep it civil.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
Second name calling post from you directed to me in the last half hour. Keep it civil.
If you are offended be being called a fool don't act foolish. Goodness.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
You're going insane over this. The mistake we made was allowing Nike to own the logo to begin with. That could have been worked out when they created it, but we allowed them to own it, so they now own it. In order to get it back, we can't just say, 'Give it back to us' loudly. We have to pay them, and I'm assuming they would want quite a bit for it. The administration has shown it isn't going to spend the money to get it back. So you can either continue to get angrier and angrier and claim people need to be fired, or you can accept that and move on.
Just because parts of the fanbase want it back doesn't mean the administration should do it or they're 'not listening'. Maybe they've listened and decided it isn't a good decision. That's what they're there for; they aren't there just to take polls; they make decisions. They've decided it's in the best interest of our athletic department not to buy it back and to stick with the M-State. I'm sure if enough people were so upset over it they threatened pulling money, they may re-think that.
But I'm pretty sure most just think, 'Yeah, I liked that logo, I wish we could get it back' and not, 'THIS IS INSANE! THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING OUR ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT CAN DO!' like you evidently do.
Not getting a logo we used for 8 years back is just not a fireable offense. If you think it is, you're crazy. And we can still use the other interlocking MSU logos we used (I assume); the fact that we're not tells you our AD doesn't want to use it. Period.
I don't sit up at night scheming on how to get the old logo back. It's more just an annoyance that pops up for me a few times a year. This discussion is really what annoys me most. These questions never get answered. I want our AD to answer these questions. Why don't we ever use the interlocking logo anymore? How much would it cost to buy it back? Why haven't we done that yet? What would you think smootness if those questions have never been asked to Nike by our Ath Dep.? I suspect they haven't even asked about it. Ever.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
What would you think smootness if those questions have never been asked to Nike by our Ath Dep.? I suspect they haven't even asked about it. Ever.
I would think that they have decided they don't want to use that logo anymore, even if we could get it back.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
I would think that they have decided they don't want to use that logo anymore, even if we could get it back.
BINGO!!! Our Athletic Department cares absolutely zero that a huge portion of our fan base wants that logo back. Doesn't have to be every game but using it never because they are obsessed with only using the MState logo is ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
I don't sit up at night scheming on how to get the old logo back. It's more just an annoyance that pops up for me a few times a year. This discussion is really what annoys me most. These questions never get answered. I want our AD to answer these questions. Why don't we ever use the interlocking logo anymore? How much would it cost to buy it back? Why haven't we done that yet? What would you think smootness if those questions have never been asked to Nike by our Ath Dep.? I suspect they haven't even asked about it. Ever.
If the question has never been asked then they AD didn't want it. Do I need to point out again that Larry changed us to M-State (some whispers have claimed he has a interest in the logos)
Ninja had no interest in going back but he did change the M-State and now scott has done the same.
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