Absolutely right!
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I subscribe to 247 because those guys bring me good information about who MSU is recruiting. I generally look at who has offered these kids to determine their quality. It is a good source of this info because those guys are in it everyday. Otherwise I would have no reliable source of this information. It is well worth the $10/mo.
Here's the deal guys, recruiting rankings absolutely matter. If you can get your head out of your ass long enough to check the stats, they 100% matter. In the SEC, the team with more talent on paper wins like 80% of the time per Dave Bartoo. Nationally, in the recruiting ranking era, you can't win a national championship (nor SEC championship) if you don't have 50% or more of your teams roster made up of 4 and 5 star recruits. Not signing a top 5, 10, 15 class doesn't mean you can't be relatively good and win 7-9 games. It doesn't mean you're going to lose to every team that is more talented than you. If just means, if you have championship aspirations, you HAVE to recruit at a championship level. Here's some more info on the subject if you want to educate yourselves: https://www.footballstudyhall.com/20...rankings-right
Where people have problems for example at the end of the day on signing day BAMA was number nine. Then the next morning they were number seven. The total number of recruits stayed the same. It just made me think that these recruiting service recalculate and do what they need to in order to make the larger group of followers happy.
Also Tenn, Florida and A&M have up to this year have been in the top 8 and you see what they got them.
Well obviously you need a combination of good coaching and facilities to go with the recruiting rankings. I don't think the argument is that all programs who rank top 8 in recruiting will be top 8 football programs, but to win a natty you must be top 10 recruiting.
It would be interesting if someone had the recruit rankings for each championship team before each player committed and post. I certainly believe you have to have great players to win championships, but I think the recruiting sites adjust player ratings after the original rating. Ie ... If player A is getting recruited to bama, he gets a bump. By doing this, the sites help themselves with the above info you stated. With that said, I want to get as many 4 and 5 stars as we can get
ETA... the last 12 natties breakdown like this: 5 by saban, 3 by urban, 1 by miles, 1 by chizik, 1 by jimbo, and 1 by dabo. Whoever broke down the info in your post, could have just said if you want a natty hire urban or saban.
247 used to have a graph on a players profile that would track their rankings
I dunno if recruiting services cater to select programs... and I dunno if players outside top ~200 are accurately rated...
But, I do know this:
A. These are the most successful SEC teams:
1) Alabama
2) LSU
3) UGA
4) Auburn
5) Florida
and,
B. These are the most successful SEC teams:
1) Alabama
2) LSU
3) UGA
4) Florida
5) Auburn
note: Data is based on Regular Season SEC wins and Average 247 Recruiting Ranking years 2015-2017
Bonus Fact: Mizzou and Vandy recruited the worst, and won the least.
Kinda surprised by OM recruiting so far. I really thought they would be going all in again, but so far it does not appear to be the case. They have 8 commits with the highest rated most certainly going mlb and 5 commits with no other sec offers. Throw out ealy (doubtful they get him anyway) and their avg per recruit is .8602.
Betcha IYOK.
From the other thread, 4* Donte Starks is visiting this week
https://247sports.com/Player/Donte-Starks-45573479