The Reason I wouldn't Extend Mike Leach

[MetEdDawg]

I don't realistically expect to win against UM every year, not even every other year; but you need to build up some credit first. Leach hasn't done that. I do agree that everything is headed in the right direction but there a lot of work to in recruiting (I think we get there)...I believe you need to set expectations and money talks.

If this game meant as much as you think it does, Moorhead would still be our coach.

What our program looks like in its entirety is far more important.

Leach in 2 years took the mess Moorhead left us and has turned us into a program that has 3 ranked wins, went undefeated on the road in the SEC, has a team that refuses to quit, and is winning recruiting battles. Plus his sophomore Qb just rewrote every passing record in our school's history and will have him 2nd all time in passing yards in a season in the SEC.

Dude proved it can work here and has a program that's tough and competes every week. It's going to take more than 2 years to undo what Moorhead did. But Leach ha done a hell of a job getting it to where it needs to be. We were picked by basics every major publication to finish last in the west and we played a game tonight that would have given us 2nd place.

Did we mess up this year? Sure. Hopefully we learn from it and see changes in the right spots. But the future is bright under Leach.

[Activated Alpha]

If this game meant as much as you think it does, Moorhead would still be our coach.

What our program looks like in its entirety is far more important.

Leach in 2 years took the mess Moorhead left us and has turned us into a program that has 3 ranked wins, went undefeated on the road in the SEC, has a team that refuses to quit, and is winning recruiting battles. Plus his sophomore Qb just rewrote every passing record in our school's history and will have him 2nd all time in passing yards in a season in the SEC.

Dude proved it can work here and has a program that's tough and competes every week. It's going to take more than 2 years to undo what Moorhead did. But Leach ha done a hell of a job getting it to where it needs to be. We were picked by basics every major publication to finish last in the west and we played a game tonight that would have given us 2nd place.

Did we mess up this year? Sure. Hopefully we learn from it and see changes in the right spots. But the future is bright under Leach.

We weren?t undefeated on the road btw

[Randolph Dupree]

If this game meant as much as you think it does, Moorhead would still be our coach.

What our program looks like in its entirety is far more important.

Leach in 2 years took the mess Moorhead left us and has turned us into a program that has 3 ranked wins, went undefeated on the road in the SEC, has a team that refuses to quit, and is winning recruiting battles. Plus his sophomore Qb just rewrote every passing record in our school's history and will have him 2nd all time in passing yards in a season in the SEC.

Dude proved it can work here and has a program that's tough and competes every week. It's going to take more than 2 years to undo what Moorhead did. But Leach ha done a hell of a job getting it to where it needs to be. We were picked by basics every major publication to finish last in the west and we played a game tonight that would have given us 2nd place.

Did we mess up this year? Sure. Hopefully we learn from it and see changes in the right spots. But the future is bright under Leach.

Dude, we're picked last every year. Yea we messed up, I'm not saying dude didn't do a decent
Job. What I'm saying is for $5M leach needs to step it up and win what he's supposed to and pull an upset here or there. ...Pretty much what we hired him to do. Not saying you fire him. Hell, LSU sucks ass this year, not penalizing him for losing that...

[Liverpooldawg]

If this game meant as much as you think it does, Moorhead would still be our coach.

What our program looks like in its entirety is far more important.

Leach in 2 years took the mess Moorhead left us and has turned us into a program that has 3 ranked wins, went undefeated on the road in the SEC, has a team that refuses to quit, and is winning recruiting battles. Plus his sophomore Qb just rewrote every passing record in our school's history and will have him 2nd all time in passing yards in a season in the SEC.

Dude proved it can work here and has a program that's tough and competes every week. It's going to take more than 2 years to undo what Moorhead did. But Leach ha done a hell of a job getting it to where it needs to be. We were picked by basics every major publication to finish last in the west and we played a game tonight that would have given us 2nd place.

Did we mess up this year? Sure. Hopefully we learn from it and see changes in the right spots. But the future is bright under Leach.

The thing is, Joe won both of his games against the Confederate bastards. He had moved beyond them, for a year or so at least. Leach has yet to do it even ONCE, the absolute prerequisite to doing anything at all at MSU. If Leach doesn't beat them next year, he HAS to go. Anyone that would defend him if we lose to them next year does NOT have MSU's best interest at heart.

[Percho]

If this game meant as much as you think it does, Moorhead would still be our coach.

What our program looks like in its entirety is far more important.

Leach in 2 years took the mess Moorhead left us and has turned us into a program that has 3 ranked wins, went undefeated on the road in the SEC, has a team that refuses to quit, and is winning recruiting battles. Plus his sophomore Qb just rewrote every passing record in our school's history and will have him 2nd all time in passing yards in a season in the SEC.

Dude proved it can work here and has a program that's tough and competes every week. It's going to take more than 2 years to undo what Moorhead did. But Leach ha done a hell of a job getting it to where it needs to be. We were picked by basics every major publication to finish last in the west and we played a game tonight that would have given us 2nd place.

Did we mess up this year? Sure. Hopefully we learn from it and see changes in the right spots. But the future is bright under Leach.

And I will add, I believe Covid really hindered us because the system is so rep dependent and I bet we missed a lot of reps last year.

[donald igwebuike]

This is pretty much the best post on ED in like 15.4 months. This team requires patience to build.

[WhiskeyPirate]

This is pretty much the best post on ED in like 15.4 months. This team requires patience to build.

Exactly

So much of a coaching transition is what did the roster look like before you take the job and what system did they run. When leach, Pittman, drinkwitz and Kiffin were all being interviewed......I guarantee much of the decision-especially by Kiffin- was what do they have on the roster, how easy and quick is the turnaround going to be. Arkansas was a mess. They got Pittman to take it but leach and Kiffin said no, and IMO it was because they wanted more money to turn around a dumpster fire.

So you have to give them time to implement their system and get their players.

Kiffin would not being doing as well as Pittman at Arkansas IMO. Take Corrall away from ole miss and you’ll start to see a lot of problems with that team.