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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Nevertheless, Cuomo has been praised throughout
He will probably be sued over the nurshing home deal.
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Originally Posted by
Jack Lambert
He will probably be sued over the nurshing home deal.
Nobody is going to get anywhere suing him. He's going to be immune. And supposedly New York put in immunity for nursing homes in one of their state stimulus bills. So they knew pretty early own that they 17ed up enough that they wanted to foreclose suits that would result in nursing homes pointing out their 17up.
The best families can hope for as far as holding him accountable is that his reputation will be trashed and his political career brought to an end. I'd say that's pretty unlikely to happen though.
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Originally Posted by
Johnson85
Nobody is going to get anywhere suing him. He's going to be immune. And supposedly New York put in immunity for nursing homes in one of their state stimulus bills. So they knew pretty early own that they 17ed up enough that they wanted to foreclose suits that would result in nursing homes pointing out their 17up.
The best families can hope for as far as holding him accountable is that his reputation will be trashed and his political career brought to an end. I'd say that's pretty unlikely to happen though.
He can be sued.
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Originally Posted by
Jack Lambert
He will probably be sued over the nurshing home deal.
I don't understand the Cuomo thing. Nursing homes should be able to quarantine their own patients. You can't just have people taking up a hospital bed that don't meet the criteria for hospitalization.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg2003
I don't understand the Cuomo thing. Nursing homes should be able to quarantine their own patients. You can't just have people taking up a hospital bed that don't meet the criteria for hospitalization.
The US Army built two 1000 bed hospitals and sent a ship with 900 hospital beds. Please don't try to defend a guy who probably cause 1000's of deaths.
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Originally Posted by
Jack Lambert
The US Army built two 1000 bed hospitals and sent a ship with 900 hospital beds. Please don't try to defend a guy who probably cause 1000's of deaths.
Nursing homes are medical facilities that quarantine their own patients and go on lockdown when there is a flu outbreak. The purpose of a hospital is not to quarantine patients. It's a waste of staff and resources to keep a patient in a hospital that doesn't meet criteria for hospitalization. Do you really think hospitals around here were keeping patients just to quarantine them? What do you think other hospitals were doing with nursing home patients?
Is there some other circumstance here? Did some nursing homes in NY say they were unable to quarantine?
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Originally Posted by
Dawg2003
Nursing homes are medical facilities that quarantine their own patients and go on lockdown when there is a flu outbreak. The purpose of a hospital is not to quarantine patients. It's a waste of staff and resources to keep a patient in a hospital that doesn't meet criteria for hospitalization. Do you really think hospitals around here were keeping patients just to quarantine them? What do you think other hospitals were doing with nursing home patients?
Is there some other circumstance here? Did some nursing homes in NY say they were unable to quarantine?
I think Jack is talking about the ones that died. They probably should've been in a hospital at some point but doesn't seem like they were or were allowed to be. And to be perfectly honest ... those folks were probably someone's grandpa or grandma.
Trump had done this ... he'd be crucified.
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Originally Posted by
dawgday166
I think Jack is talking about the ones that died. They probably should've been in a hospital at some point but doesn't seem like they were or were allowed to be. And to be perfectly honest ... those folks were probably someone's grandpa or grandma.
Trump had done this ... he'd be crucified.
Were people from nursing homes denied hospitalization when it was necessary? Everything I read on this is vague and doesn't give details.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg2003
Were people from nursing homes denied hospitalization when it was necessary? Everything I read on this is vague and doesn't give details.
It seems most of the LTC patients here in my part of MS that die from Coronavirus are dying in the LTC. I don't remember seeing that much with other things.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg2003
Were people from nursing homes denied hospitalization when it was necessary? Everything I read on this is vague and doesn't give details.
Sounds like a clue to me.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg2003
I don't understand the Cuomo thing. Nursing homes should be able to quarantine their own patients. You can't just have people taking up a hospital bed that don't meet the criteria for hospitalization.
How many nursing homes have you been too? I haven't been to many, but out of the half dozen I've been to, there was one very high end one, that was really a senior living facility with a small nursing home (I'm guessing they might not even take people who weren't transitioning from their assisted living facility), I don't think they'd have the capabilities of quarantining residents, whether they should be able to or not.
It doesn't take hindsight that sending COVID positive people to nursing homes was likely to lead to breakouts. That's why at least a couple of government officials removed a parent from a nursing home even as they made the call to force nursing homes to take positive patients.
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Originally Posted by
Johnson85
How many nursing homes have you been too? I haven't been to many, but out of the half dozen I've been to, there was one very high end one, that was really a senior living facility with a small nursing home (I'm guessing they might not even take people who weren't transitioning from their assisted living facility), I don't think they'd have the capabilities of quarantining residents, whether they should be able to or not.
It doesn't take hindsight that sending COVID positive people to nursing homes was likely to lead to breakouts. That's why at least a couple of government officials removed a parent from a nursing home even as they made the call to force nursing homes to take positive patients.
If the nursing homes are saying they don't have the capability to quarantine their own patients, that's one thing. They should be able to do that though. They do it during flu outbreaks in nursing homes. I work in healthcare, so I've been to several nursing homes. We had a situation where a nursing home was refusing to take patients back, and the hospital told them needed to come pick the patients up. They came and got them. I'm not sure if they had 2 negative COVID tests yet. I'm just wondering if the Cuomo situation was similar.
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