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    Quote Originally Posted by coachnorm View Post
    The starting quarterbacks for Alabama, Georgia, Clemson, Ole Miss, and Ohio State are from Los Angeles area. No one has more access to talent than USC, second is not even close. There are even more Los Angeles quarterbacks spread out in America. The two top high school football programs, in America, are in the Trinity League in Los Angeles. LSU does not have better access to talent, not close. The problem with USC is it is the University of Spoiled Children and it does not have to work for anything. Pete Carroll evolved the USC Football we now know. The university really does not care about football that much?
    Cool. But the other 21 positions.....?
    Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins View Post
    Cool. But the other 21 positions.....?
    It's USC, they can pull in talent from anywhere as long as you give the recruits reason for optimism

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us View Post
    It's USC, they can pull in talent from anywhere as long as you give the recruits reason for optimism
    This gives recruits optimism
    "After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
    - Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    This gives recruits optimism
    Those sweaters are just..... perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins View Post
    Cool. But the other 21 positions.....?
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    Could be way off, but USC is almost like a west coast Tennessee. Time has moved on, whether their fans know it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNDawg35 View Post
    Saw on Twitter where Mullen told a reporter he would be interested if he was approached. Now it also could be Sexton floating his usual “Mullen needs a raise” type thing…
    Yeah. He's planning his escape to the NFL right on cue.

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    Could be way off, but USC is almost like a west coast Tennessee. Time has moved on, whether their fans know it or not.
    The biggest difference is the talent pool is infinitely better than Tennessee and it's not even close.

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    The biggest difference is the talent pool is infinitely better than Tennessee and it's not even close.[/QUOTE]

    Point taken. Has the administration or booster network become that disorganized when it comes to recruiting, or has past glory obscured their view of what it takes to be competitive in the current college football landscape, not unlike what Coach Norm was saying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaChicagoDog View Post
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    Could be way off, but USC is almost like a west coast Tennessee. Time has moved on, whether their fans know it or not.
    There is no FBS school more arrogant and condescending to its fan base than USC. Before Pete Carroll, USC would have 38,000 attending a 94,000 seat venue in very populated Los Angeles. USC as an institution did nothing for football excellence, Pete Carroll did. The arrogant assholes that oversee the campus were jealous of Pete. The fans have observed this for many decades and are well versed in the status quo in Los Angeles. When you look at a rivalry between Miss St and Ole Miss, it is sports orientated. USC is so dirty, to its fan-base and community, in its own way that it would make Ole Miss misgivings look like church mice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coachnorm View Post
    There is no FBS school more arrogant and condescending to its fan base than USC. Before Pete Carroll, USC would have 38,000 attending a 94,000 seat venue in very populated Los Angeles. USC as an institution did nothing for football excellence, Pete Carroll did. The arrogant assholes that oversee the campus were jealous of Pete. The fans have observed this for many decades and are well versed in the status quo in Los Angeles. When you look at a rivalry between Miss St and Ole Miss, it is sports orientated. USC is so dirty, to its fan-base and community, in its own way that it would make Ole Miss misgivings look like church mice?
    Hogwash. SC was big in football long before Pete Carroll and will be again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaChicagoDog View Post
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    Could be way off, but USC is almost like a west coast Tennessee. Time has moved on, whether their fans know it or not.
    No they aren't. There is more talent in LA than in the whole state of Tennessee, WAY more. They could recruit ONLY in LA county and still have a shot at a natty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    No they aren't. There is more talent in LA than in the whole state of Tennessee, WAY more. They could recruit ONLY in LA county and still have a shot at a natty.
    The biggest difference is the talent pool is infinitely better than Tennessee and it's not even close.[/QUOTE]

    I'll ask again: Point taken. Has the administration or booster network become that disorganized when it comes to recruiting, or has past glory obscured their view of what it takes to be competitive in the current college football landscape, not unlike what Coach Norm was saying?

    Genuine question: what's the problem at USC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaChicagoDog View Post
    The biggest difference is the talent pool is infinitely better than Tennessee and it's not even close.
    I'll ask again: Point taken. Has the administration or booster network become that disorganized when it comes to recruiting, or has past glory obscured their view of what it takes to be competitive in the current college football landscape, not unlike what Coach Norm was saying?

    Genuine question: what's the problem at USC?[/QUOTE]

    They got absolutely hammered by the NCAA. That was probably the last time the NCAA will ever be able to hand out something like that. They were down to something like 40 scholarship players at one time. It takes time, even for them, to recover from that. They have been playing safe since and Helton was part of that. This firing basically says they are getting serious again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaChicagoDog View Post
    The biggest difference is the talent pool is infinitely better than Tennessee and it's not even close.
    I'll ask again: Point taken. Has the administration or booster network become that disorganized when it comes to recruiting, or has past glory obscured their view of what it takes to be competitive in the current college football landscape, not unlike what Coach Norm was saying?

    Genuine question: what's the problem at USC?[/QUOTE]

    USC has too many distractions that makes it a boatload of money. It is focused on its medical facilities that are profitable. Hollywood gives it profits. Engineering research and development gives it profits. Overseas investments give USC profits. Real Estate acquisitions in South Central LA make huge profits for the university. Athletic are not seen as a profit maker worthy of great effort. USC will rake in money if the World Cup or Olympics come to LA because of basic ownership of the Coliseum. To put it in a USC perspective, football is low on its priorities, too much money making elsewhere. The coaching change happened because a huge money holder affiliated with the university issued a directive and USC complied.

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