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    The NIL should be the place where a salary cap is put in place to level things out some. These guys don't need huge money. They deserve some, but not crazy ass money. The refusal and inability of the NCAA to handle this will destroy it completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    The NIL should be the place where a salary cap is put in place to level things out some. These guys don't need huge money. They deserve some, but not crazy ass money. The refusal and inability of the NCAA to handle this will destroy it completely.
    Is it just ball players you don't want making more than you or is it everyone? Let's limit Elon Musk's earning power, doesn't he have enough already?

    They will get what the market will pay them. Either you believe in a free market or you don't. I prefer free market unless it actually hurts someone, causes a monopoly or in for public works. These socialist programs that fund fireman, police officers, public schools, public roads, bridges or healthcare like Medicare and Medicaid are all all fine but socialism for entertainment like sports? Not so much.

    Now, what we do need is some sort of control over the movement between teams. I feel as if the monies will work itself out the same way it's always been. The big money teams will continue to buy players, just legally now.

    I do expect some sort of contract language that limits all this crap of guys moving because they had a good year or possibly the NCAA finding some way to set some guidelines. It's like the NCAA just said **** it, I don't care let them do whatever they want, once they lost the supreme court case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Rock View Post
    Is it just ball players you don't want making more than you or is it everyone? Let's limit Elon Musk's earning power, doesn't he have enough already?

    They will get what the market will pay them. Either you believe in a free market or you don't. I prefer free market unless it actually hurts someone, causes a monopoly or in for public works. These socialist programs that fund fireman, police officers, public schools, public roads, bridges or healthcare like Medicare and Medicaid are all all fine but socialism for entertainment like sports? Not so much.

    Now, what we do need is some sort of control over the movement between teams. I feel as if the monies will work itself out the same way it's always been. The big money teams will continue to buy players, just legally now.

    I do expect some sort of contract language that limits all this crap of guys moving because they had a good year or possibly the NCAA finding some way to set some guidelines. It's like the NCAA just said **** it, I don't care let them do whatever they want, once they lost the supreme court case.
    Pro sports leagues aren't free markets. There are salary caps, luxury taxes, drafts and most importantly contracts. There has to be some sort of competitive balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Rock View Post
    Is it just ball players you don't want making more than you or is it everyone? Let's limit Elon Musk's earning power, doesn't he have enough already?

    They will get what the market will pay them. Either you believe in a free market or you don't. I prefer free market unless it actually hurts someone, causes a monopoly or in for public works. These socialist programs that fund fireman, police officers, public schools, public roads, bridges or healthcare like Medicare and Medicaid are all all fine but socialism for entertainment like sports? Not so much.

    Now, what we do need is some sort of control over the movement between teams. I feel as if the monies will work itself out the same way it's always been. The big money teams will continue to buy players, just legally now.

    I do expect some sort of contract language that limits all this crap of guys moving because they had a good year or possibly the NCAA finding some way to set some guidelines. It's like the NCAA just said **** it, I don't care let them do whatever they want, once they lost the supreme court case.
    I don't give a damn. I've got kids playing college ball myself. I don't believe they deserve crazy money either. Pay them like they're got a part time job, plus a nice stipend for beating their bodies up. Then, if the school or whoever is selling shit with their names on it etc, let them make some off that. This paying a kid crazy money to sign etc. is stupid as hell.
    Their education and housing etc. alone is approaching $100K. Some places it's well beyond that. Let's not pretend they're not well compensated to begin with.

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    Well once they lost the supreme court case, the NCAA didn't have anything they could do. Players have rights, the same as any other student on campus. They should be able to make whatever money they can. Does that mean that the money requires them to stay at the school until they officially go through the draft? Maybe it could. I am 100% for the players having the ability to cash in however they want, but the school also needs protection against being extorted.

    Seems to me, the universities missed the boat on this. They had the opportunity to set a earnings package for scholarship and walk-on players that would have avoided all of this. Mullen talked about it all the time, how players never had a dime to go out on a date. I am sure the plantation owners had an issue when they had to start paying the slaves as well. I am sure, the southern states are still feeling the effects to this day of their free labor gravy train ending. Same here with NCAA football. It is going to get uglier before it gets better, just like the economy of the southern US after the civil war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    Well once they lost the supreme court case, the NCAA didn't have anything they could do. Players have rights, the same as any other student on campus. They should be able to make whatever money they can. Does that mean that the money requires them to stay at the school until they officially go through the draft? Maybe it could. I am 100% for the players having the ability to cash in however they want, but the school also needs protection against being extorted.

    Seems to me, the universities missed the boat on this. They had the opportunity to set a earnings package for scholarship and walk-on players that would have avoided all of this. Mullen talked about it all the time, how players never had a dime to go out on a date. I am sure the plantation owners had an issue when they had to start paying the slaves as well. I am sure, the southern states are still feeling the effects to this day of their free labor gravy train ending. Same here with NCAA football. It is going to get uglier before it gets better, just like the economy of the southern US after the civil war.
    That's not true. The NCAA could have set up rules related to NIL - they chose not to. They very easily could have created rules saying players can take no more than $100 for an autograph, and those must be sold at a sanctioned event. Or that players could sign legit endorsement deals with real companies - but that those contracts must produce an actual ad/commercial/etc. and not just be an organized slush fund to pay players. Or that the NCAA would set up a NIL board with players to negotiate deals that were industry wide like NCAA Football with EA Sports. The NCAA failed to act and it is going to ruin the game.
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