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Originally Posted by
RiverCityDawg
You're addressing a lot of things that aren't mutually exclusive. Guys can still ride the fence despite going through hard workouts. Discipline can still be good, yet not 100% are buying in 9 months in. Most guys can buy in and you can still have a couple malcontents. You can fail to defeat the 3-8 because of execution and still have malcontents. You can have malcontents and your scheme have a problem with the 3-8.
The primary message from Leach is they have to coach better and execute better. Also there are malcontents so we need to make sure we are playing the right guys. All those things can be true without it being confusing, spin or BS.
You can have malcontents at any point - you could be 7-0 and ranked #1, and have a player be so self centered that they tank the rest of the season because the coach wouldn't put them in late in to get 2 extra yards so they could say they ran for 200 once.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
You can have malcontents at any point - you could be 7-0 and ranked #1, and have a player be so self centered that they tank the rest of the season because the coach wouldn't put them in late in to get 2 extra yards so they could say they ran for 200 once.
Yeah, but that's a not likely, highly hypothetical situation. **
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
You can have malcontents at any point - you could be 7-0 and ranked #1, and have a player be so self centered that they tank the rest of the season because the coach wouldn't put them in late in to get 2 extra yards so they could say they ran for 200 once.
Rep given!
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
You can have malcontents at any point - you could be 7-0 and ranked #1, and have a player be so self centered that they tank the rest of the season because the coach wouldn't put them in late in to get 2 extra yards so they could say they ran for 200 once.
hmm
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Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
His release is quicker for sure. I think something is wrong with Costello. He's always had a slow release, but the ball just looks awkward coming out of his hand. He has a good arm bc he showed it at Stanford, but it's been MIA the last two weeks.
Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
You can have malcontents at any point - you could be 7-0 and ranked #1, and have a player be so self centered that they tank the rest of the season because the coach wouldn't put them in late in to get 2 extra yards so they could say they ran for 200 once.
Yes, true.
I recall Josh Robinson go Malcontent in 2014. This “malcontent” shenanigans belongs in video games, new wrinkle.
Jay Cutler, QB Chicago was basically always Malcontent, especially against the Packers
FIFA 2020 should make all Manchester United players randomly perform every game. Between attitude and marijuana- Pogba should be speed 50 to speed 96.
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
You can have malcontents at any point - you could be 7-0 and ranked #1, and have a player be so self centered that they tank the rest of the season because the coach wouldn't put them in late in to get 2 extra yards so they could say they ran for 200 once.
I remember that crap. @ Kentucky 2014. I lost a lot of respect for JRob that day.
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Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
I remember that crap. @ Kentucky 2014. I lost a lot of respect for JRob that day.
Agree but Mullen was in the wrong for not getting him those extra two yards. Coaches have to manage personalities
CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG
Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Agree but Mullen was in the wrong for not getting him those extra two yards. Coaches have to manage personalities
And Josh was known to be unmanageable. Josh had the talent to be a 3 year starter - we all saw the flashes of it. But, he couldn't get out of his own way. And, Josh did have a chance - he just didn't make it. He got a carry on 1st down with 1:22 left in the game - and only got 4 yards. At that point, we took 2 knees and ran the clock. I'd have a totally different opinion if he hadn't been sent back out for that short last series. Keep in mind too that even though it wound up a 2 score game - one minute earlier the game was in doubt as UK had just closed the lead to 7 and attempted an onside kick - which Turtle ran back for a TD to clinch the game. I don't know that I would have tempted the football gods after that just to give 2 vanity yards to a stat sheet. I'm GTFO with the win.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
And Josh was known to be unmanageable. Josh had the talent to be a 3 year starter - we all saw the flashes of it. But, he couldn't get out of his own way. And, Josh did have a chance - he just didn't make it. He got a carry on 1st down with 1:22 left in the game - and only got 4 yards. At that point, we took 2 knees and ran the clock. I'd have a totally different opinion if he hadn't been sent back out for that short last series. Keep in mind too that even though it wound up a 2 score game - one minute earlier the game was in doubt as UK had just closed the lead to 7 and attempted an onside kick - which Turtle ran back for a TD to clinch the game. I don't know that I would have tempted the football gods after that just to give 2 vanity yards to a stat sheet. I'm GTFO with the win.
As a coach, you have to know what makes your players tick and your job is to get the most out of them.
Has Mullen done what was in the best interest of his team instead of making a point, J Rob would've likely been more engaged for the rest of the season & MSU's best team may have won more games.
I'm not saying in any way that J Rob was in the right, but Mullen should've just gotten him the yards or told him prior the the last carry that his is your last chance
CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG
Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
As a coach, you have to know what makes your players tick and your job is to get the most out of them.
Has Mullen done what was in the best interest of his team instead of making a point, J Rob would've likely been more engaged for the rest of the season & MSU's best team may have won more games.
I'm not saying in any way that J Rob was in the right, but Mullen should've just gotten him the yards or told him prior the the last carry that his is your last chance
We don't know that he didn't. I think 3 years of frustration with Josh probably caught up to Dan at that point. But, Dan had given Josh every opportunity to get with the program and we all know he never really did. I can totally see why you don't reward the guy that you have to hand hold constantly. That is also taking the good of the team and the good of the program into consideration. JoMo just showed us the the consequences of the method you are saying Dan should have employed.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
As a coach, you have to know what makes your players tick and your job is to get the most out of them.
Has Mullen done what was in the best interest of his team instead of making a point, J Rob would've likely been more engaged for the rest of the season & MSU's best team may have won more games.
I'm not saying in any way that J Rob was in the right, but Mullen should've just gotten him the yards or told him prior the the last carry that his is your last chance
I completely disagree with this. You're there to win games. Not chase stats.
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