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08-09-2023, 04:36 PM
#1601
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Originally Posted by
smootness
You call your shots, you get some right and some wrong. You should soak in the credit for what you get right, but you also have to eat what you got wrong. This one was a miss, along with all the other thinly veiled mentions of other guys we were going to be getting.
This portal season was one massive L from Lemonis. And at the worst possible time. We might be halfway decent next year if enough guys progress, but Lemonis is gone soon one way or another. So I'd rather it go ahead and happen this year.
Yeah my point was this wasn't really a miss. Those guys said Montgomery to MSU while Stanford was still playing in Omaha. They were right. It just changed at the end.
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08-09-2023, 05:48 PM
#1602
Originally Posted by
raymonddawg
Yeah my point was this wasn't really a miss. Those guys said Montgomery to MSU while Stanford was still playing in Omaha. They were right. It just changed at the end.
I know, and I?m saying it is a miss. You can?t say, well I was right at the time, things just changed. They said he would be at State and he?s not. It?s possible they were right ?at the time? and it?s also possible they weren?t. But regardless, they were wrong in the end.
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08-09-2023, 05:50 PM
#1603
My portal wish list at the end of the season:
-Friday night starter
-Stud 3B
-Braden Montgomery
Lemonis countered with:
-Two pitchers that have ERAs around 5. They might be pretty decent but are far from Friday night guys.
-A 3B from a pretty bad baseball conference that can hit pretty well but strikes out a lot. Not a bad get, but wanted a little better.
-Not Braden Montgomery
Good stuff...
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08-09-2023, 05:53 PM
#1604
Originally Posted by
bigbub50
Let?s spin this, somewhere a msu booster or boosters have saved approximately 500k-750k on these two major misses. A penny saved is a penny earned, dad always told me.
Money toward lemonis buyout.
I never thought at MSU we would have boosters that would pony up to get a big fish and yet have a coach that couldn't land him...
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08-09-2023, 05:59 PM
#1605
Originally Posted by
smootness
I know, and I?m saying it is a miss. You can?t say, well I was right at the time, things just changed. They said he would be at State and he?s not. It?s possible they were right ?at the time? and it?s also possible they weren?t. But regardless, they were wrong in the end.
I'll own it. The whole camp and his family wanted him here and were on board. They were the source. And then he decided he didn't want to move back home and play with kids he grew up playing with. Sucks.
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08-09-2023, 06:48 PM
#1606
I still have hope, but GD if this ain't deflating...
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08-09-2023, 07:29 PM
#1607
the muck in the pot of soup is Lemo........ just wait til mid march and see if Parker allows us to keep the muck another year
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08-09-2023, 07:44 PM
#1608
By the way idont remember it being discussed- did we give Parker a "multi year guaranteed" contract like was rumored? Anybody know his buyout?
Parker seems great but I'd hate to scare off a HC candidate because we can't afford to bring in his preferred PC
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08-09-2023, 08:18 PM
#1609
Originally Posted by
smootness
I know, and I?m saying it is a miss. You can?t say, well I was right at the time, things just changed. They said he would be at State and he?s not. It?s possible they were right ?at the time? and it?s also possible they weren?t. But regardless, they were wrong in the end.
Montgomery's family wanted him at State. They got the process going which hyped everybody. Montgomery didnt want to be in Mississippi tho- thats the bottom line. Which makes sense considering where he started his career.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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08-09-2023, 08:48 PM
#1610
Originally Posted by
Coach34
Montgomery's family wanted him at State. They got the process going which hyped everybody. Montgomery didnt want to be in Mississippi tho- thats the bottom line. Which makes sense considering where he started his career.
It’s looking really bad! There is no sugar coating it. I hope your prediction on Lemonis and the team next year is good. It’s all bout coaching what we have up.
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08-09-2023, 08:53 PM
#1611
Originally Posted by
Coach34
Montgomery's family wanted him at State. They got the process going which hyped everybody. Montgomery didnt want to be in Mississippi tho- thats the bottom line. Which makes sense considering where he started his career.
The issue is how it was phrased on here, not necessarily by you but by many. Saying "we have a lot going for us so I think we'll get him" is fine. Saying "He's a silent commit and you're going to eat crow when he announces!" Is too far because Montgomery never said it himself.
If someone has insider info, just state that info. Don't take an extra guess and present that guess like insider info too, you know? That's the "crow" some deserve to eat.
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08-09-2023, 09:16 PM
#1612
I just want to congratulate everyone on this thread length.
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08-09-2023, 09:18 PM
#1613
Well I posted what happened. I 100% agree its disappointing and a close Lemon really needed to make. I've said that all along. When the kid's parents are looking at places to purchase in StarkVegas you get excited. The guy simply didnt want to return to Mississippi.
Makes Lemon's job that much tougher in the Spring.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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08-10-2023, 12:14 AM
#1614
Originally Posted by
Coach34
Montgomery's family wanted him at State. They got the process going which hyped everybody. Montgomery didnt want to be in Mississippi tho- thats the bottom line. Which makes sense considering where he started his career.
That's the bizarre thing about this whole deal. His parents telling MSU that he will be at MSU without talking to him first. Montgomery is a grown man. He makes his own decisions.
And if I was Lemonis I would want to hear it from Braden himself before I got all excited and confident.
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08-10-2023, 06:42 AM
#1615
Let's get onto other sports now and wait to hear how improved the baseball team is during fall scrimmages...........
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08-10-2023, 06:50 AM
#1616
I?m excited for football, men?s basketball, and women?s basketball. If Lemonis falls on his face this year, I?m confident we can bring someone in to elevate us back to where we were.
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08-10-2023, 08:44 AM
#1617
Originally Posted by
ZedFedder
I?m excited for football, men?s basketball, and women?s basketball. If Lemonis falls on his face this year, I?m confident we can bring someone in to elevate us back to where we were.
The question would be would we open up the checkbook enough to get a big name or do we hire a no name coach. There is a really good chance that both us and OM would be open next year with bad years for both Lemonis and Bianco…
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08-10-2023, 08:47 AM
#1618
My last comment/question(s) on the Braden Montgomery situation with regard to his decision to go to Play for the Milkmen.
IF(big word but there was a lot of supposition on this thread) he chose then because of his hitting instructor who I believe people have mentioned as Chuck Box, then who is to say a new coach at State THIS year, couldn?t have hire Said hitting instructor and brought Montgomery in?
We really don?t know if course, because we are stuck with Lame Duck Lemo, but a change THIS year, not next will most likely present itself in the Spring of 24 when State loses a non-con series or a midweek to a nobody.
Some of you are too young to remember when we actually had sports casters on local stations making this statement after a 2-9 or 3-8 football season:
?State went 2-9 this year but the good news is everybody is back next year. The bad news is everybody is back next year!?
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08-10-2023, 09:02 AM
#1619
Originally Posted by
TNDawg35
The question would be would we open up the checkbook enough to get a big name or do we hire a no name coach. There is a really good chance that both us and OM would be open next year with bad years for both Lemonis and Bianco?
One will retire the other will be fired. Selmon, you'd better get off your ass now and start building a list of potential candidates because I think we all know how this ends.
"The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)
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08-10-2023, 09:35 AM
#1620
Senior Member
Did my heart some good, to still see this thread at the top this morning.
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