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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Great point. When Will sets his feet & steps into the throw, he arm strength is fine & adequate as are most QB's.

    Problem is, for him to have his feet set & step into the throw, virtually everything has to go right around him. The OL has to block, the WRs are to run their routes correctly, etc.

    For MSU to take the next step on offense, we need a QB that can expand the margin for error by the other players on the field & that typically means they need the ability to move quickly & make strong, accurate throws from off platform positions. That expands the margin for error
    I agree, but, that brings the question to a bubble - is that an issue that comes with maturity for Rodgers or are we thinking that he has reached his ceiling in that regard? If its maturity, then dang come on Rodgers please grow up this week, fine tune that skill next week and come out and sling it around against LSU and lets make some noise. But, if it is his ceiling, then yeah, Rodgers is a really adequate and annoying place holder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick91 View Post
    I agree, but, that brings the question to a bubble - is that an issue that comes with maturity for Rodgers or are we thinking that he has reached his ceiling in that regard? If its maturity, then dang come on Rodgers please grow up this week, fine tune that skill next week and come out and sling it around against LSU and lets make some noise. But, if it is his ceiling, then yeah, Rodgers is a really adequate and annoying place holder.
    I think he's close to his physical ceiling. Players mostly stay the same, but they just get stronger & smarter. He's got more room to improve mentally than physically. He's pretty much tapped out physically IMO

    I don't see the athleticism for him to improve much physically
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I think he's close to his physical ceiling. Players mostly stay the same, but they just get stronger & smarter. He's got more room to improve mentally than physically. He's pretty much tapped out physically IMO

    I don't see the athleticism for him to improve much physically
    Yeah, but, I don't see this as a physical issue this is more of mental maturity. Having to set your feet and throw in awkward ways, that just comes with more comfort for the game, and knowledge overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick91 View Post
    Yeah, but, I don't see this as a physical issue this is more of mental maturity. Having to set your feet and throw in awkward ways, that just comes with more comfort for the game, and knowledge overall.
    Agree. He'll get better but marginally. He's on the floor of the 3rd floor of the building. Perhaps he can get to the ceiling of the 3rd floor or maybe even the floor of the 4th floor of the building. But he can't get to the 6th floor or higher. Not enough physical ingredients.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Agree. He'll get better but marginally. He's on the floor of the 3rd floor of the building. Perhaps he can get to the ceiling of the 3rd floor or maybe even the floor of the 4th floor of the building. But he can't get to the 6th floor or higher. Not enough physical ingredients.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick91 View Post
    hears to hoping you are wrong, or someone else comes in and is the lighting rode we need.
    Totally agree. I'd rather be wrong & MSU be better than right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick91 View Post
    Yeah, but, I don't see this as a physical issue this is more of mental maturity. Having to set your feet and throw in awkward ways, that just comes with more comfort for the game, and knowledge overall.
    I agree. I think Will has the physical skills to do the job but seems to be restricted mentally from preforming as an above average SEC QB. By this, I don't mean a Wonderlic score but the mental confidence to get the job done on a high level. I'm curious to know if last year's high turnover rate at the QB position made him overly conservative with his approach to the position. Playing not to lose. Does he have the "deer in headlights" outlook in his head?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleofTwoDogs View Post
    I agree. I think Will has the physical skills to do the job but seems to be restricted mentally from preforming as an above average SEC QB.
    It's both, but I lean heavily on him not having the physical skills.

    Again break it down

    Arm strength: Above average, normal, below average

    Speed: Above average, normal, below average

    Athleticism: Above average, normal, below average

    Quickness: Above average, normal, below average

    Accuracy: Above average, normal, below average
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleofTwoDogs View Post
    I agree. I think Will has the physical skills to do the job but seems to be restricted mentally from preforming as an above average SEC QB. By this, I don't mean a Wonderlic score but the mental confidence to get the job done on a high level. I'm curious to know if last year's high turnover rate at the QB position made him overly conservative with his approach to the position. Playing not to lose. Does he have the "deer in headlights" outlook in his head?
    solid question, only time will tell. If so, hopefully that gets corrected soon.

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