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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Great point. When Will sets his feet & steps into the throw, he arm strength is fine & adequate as are most QB's.
Problem is, for him to have his feet set & step into the throw, virtually everything has to go right around him. The OL has to block, the WRs are to run their routes correctly, etc.
For MSU to take the next step on offense, we need a QB that can expand the margin for error by the other players on the field & that typically means they need the ability to move quickly & make strong, accurate throws from off platform positions. That expands the margin for error
I agree, but, that brings the question to a bubble - is that an issue that comes with maturity for Rodgers or are we thinking that he has reached his ceiling in that regard? If its maturity, then dang come on Rodgers please grow up this week, fine tune that skill next week and come out and sling it around against LSU and lets make some noise. But, if it is his ceiling, then yeah, Rodgers is a really adequate and annoying place holder.
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Originally Posted by
Maverick91
I agree, but, that brings the question to a bubble - is that an issue that comes with maturity for Rodgers or are we thinking that he has reached his ceiling in that regard? If its maturity, then dang come on Rodgers please grow up this week, fine tune that skill next week and come out and sling it around against LSU and lets make some noise. But, if it is his ceiling, then yeah, Rodgers is a really adequate and annoying place holder.
I think he's close to his physical ceiling. Players mostly stay the same, but they just get stronger & smarter. He's got more room to improve mentally than physically. He's pretty much tapped out physically IMO
I don't see the athleticism for him to improve much physically
CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG
Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
I think he's close to his physical ceiling. Players mostly stay the same, but they just get stronger & smarter. He's got more room to improve mentally than physically. He's pretty much tapped out physically IMO
I don't see the athleticism for him to improve much physically
Yeah, but, I don't see this as a physical issue this is more of mental maturity. Having to set your feet and throw in awkward ways, that just comes with more comfort for the game, and knowledge overall.
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Originally Posted by
Maverick91
Yeah, but, I don't see this as a physical issue this is more of mental maturity. Having to set your feet and throw in awkward ways, that just comes with more comfort for the game, and knowledge overall.
Agree. He'll get better but marginally. He's on the floor of the 3rd floor of the building. Perhaps he can get to the ceiling of the 3rd floor or maybe even the floor of the 4th floor of the building. But he can't get to the 6th floor or higher. Not enough physical ingredients.
CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG
Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Agree. He'll get better but marginally. He's on the floor of the 3rd floor of the building. Perhaps he can get to the ceiling of the 3rd floor or maybe even the floor of the 4th floor of the building. But he can't get to the 6th floor or higher. Not enough physical ingredients.
hears to hoping you are wrong, or someone else comes in and is the lighting rode we need.
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Originally Posted by
Maverick91
hears to hoping you are wrong, or someone else comes in and is the lighting rode we need.
Totally agree. I'd rather be wrong & MSU be better than right.
CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG
Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More
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Originally Posted by
Maverick91
Yeah, but, I don't see this as a physical issue this is more of mental maturity. Having to set your feet and throw in awkward ways, that just comes with more comfort for the game, and knowledge overall.
I agree. I think Will has the physical skills to do the job but seems to be restricted mentally from preforming as an above average SEC QB. By this, I don't mean a Wonderlic score but the mental confidence to get the job done on a high level. I'm curious to know if last year's high turnover rate at the QB position made him overly conservative with his approach to the position. Playing not to lose. Does he have the "deer in headlights" outlook in his head?
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Originally Posted by
TaleofTwoDogs
I agree. I think Will has the physical skills to do the job but seems to be restricted mentally from preforming as an above average SEC QB.
It's both, but I lean heavily on him not having the physical skills.
Again break it down
Arm strength: Above average, normal, below average
Speed: Above average, normal, below average
Athleticism: Above average, normal, below average
Quickness: Above average, normal, below average
Accuracy: Above average, normal, below average
CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG
Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More
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Originally Posted by
TaleofTwoDogs
I agree. I think Will has the physical skills to do the job but seems to be restricted mentally from preforming as an above average SEC QB. By this, I don't mean a Wonderlic score but the mental confidence to get the job done on a high level. I'm curious to know if last year's high turnover rate at the QB position made him overly conservative with his approach to the position. Playing not to lose. Does he have the "deer in headlights" outlook in his head?
solid question, only time will tell. If so, hopefully that gets corrected soon.
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