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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Well, the idea is that he's not a lame duck and next season we should be improved
So you?re saying State shouldn?t expect to be an elite program - got it
State and its fans are good with mediocrity
The ole poor ol?Mississippi State mindset needs to die and die fast (not saying you have this attitude)
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This gives me Croom flashbacks.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
This gives me Croom flashbacks.
I didn?t go there simply due to NC
But the past two years have been crxxmtastic
He couldn?t coach or recruit
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Originally Posted by
sandjunky
So you?re saying State shouldn?t expect to be an elite program - got it
State and its fans are good with mediocrity
The ole poor ol?Mississippi State mindset needs to die and die fast (not saying you have this attitude)
Well, the guy with the only NC in our history will probably get 1 more season to see if he can get us back into the NCAA Tourney and win games. Nobody is accepting mediocrity. I've always said the expectation every season for our baseball program is to make a Super. That hasnt changed.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
ArrowDawg
Anything less than hosting a regional next year should result in his firing. After two years in a row like this, I'm done.
Making a regional should be the floor for us every year. That is like making a bowl in football. Really should be in contention for hosting at least every year too.
Not making Hoover is like 1-11 in football. Not getting in a regional as a 4 seed is like 4-8. For a baseball program like ours, it ain't much to ask for a regional every year. The past two years are beyond acceptable regardless injuries. Programs like us should just throw another talented guy out there and make a regional.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Well, the guy with the only NC in our history will probably get 1 more season to see if he can get us back into the NCAA Tourney and win games. Nobody is accepting mediocrity. I've always said the expectation every season for our baseball program is to make a Super. That hasnt changed.
Yep the NC bought whoever got it a lot of coaching capital. Lemo just used all his up real quick.
Bianco now using his up. His leash might be shorter ironically because they were about to fire him last year till he won it.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Actually a lot of people are, sadly.
No they aren't. If you ask our fanbase, 99.99% will tell you making Hoover isn't the standard.
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I'm fine with it. Pitching direction will be paramount. I also think we play well this weekend.
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Originally Posted by
R2Dawg
Making a regional should be the floor for us every year. That is like making a bowl in football. Really should be in contention for hosting at least every year too.
Not making Hoover is like 1-11 in football. Not getting in a regional as a 4 seed is like 4-8. For a baseball program like ours, it ain't much to ask for a regional every year. The past two years are beyond acceptable regardless injuries. Programs like us should just throw another talented guy out there and make a regional.
Yep. How many top #10 football programs hold on to head coaches with back to back 3-9 seasons?
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Originally Posted by
msu15
That would definitely be the Mississippi State thing to do. Sounds like Selmon is fitting in already.
Correct. If he doesnt make the move it better not be because he wants to get comfortable first. A blind man can see what needs to be done
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
It makes a lot of sense to bring him back if you take everything into consideration with our situation.
I 100 percent disagree
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Originally Posted by
CaptainObvious
If Missouri and or Georgia win 1 game next weekend, State is eliminated from SEC tourney even if State sweeps A & M. No way he should be back next year. Lemonis is the Author, Editor, and Publisher of the Horror Story. I expect significant Portal entries by key players at end of season whether he is back or not. But we need new blood at the top.
This is the bottom line. All year long the point was make Hoover. You dont make Hoover you gotta go
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
No one is just OK with going to Hoover.
To me this is like when Dan went 6-7 with an Egg Bowl win and Peter Sirmon as our DC. We all knew that Dan had some success with us and we all knew that Sirmon was obviously THE problem. We all knew that Dan could turn it around with a better DC- which he did in 2017.
I feel pretty confident that Lemonis will turn it around with a new PC.
If I'm wrong I'm wrong but this team has talent to where it can be turned around pretty quickly I think.
It?s not like that at all. The past 2 seasons are equivalent to 3-9.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
He makes a regional in 2024 and he will retain his job. We have been a 2 seed many times and gone on to make a Super
He is done. It would be something that has never be done to come back from this. Name a head coach that fired an asst to save his ass that made it back? If he comes back I will have little faith in our admins. Keenum hates OM so much that helps his case, and I get that. But OM is terrible and we are just as bad. With no legit excuses as to why
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If we retain Lemonis, the baseline to keep his job for 2025 should be either hosting in 2024, or at least being in the hosting conversation late.
Sneaking into a Regional is OK on occasion at MSU, but not as the best of a 3-year stretch. It should be, like, the worst in a 5-year stretch or so.
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Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
Name a head coach that fired an asst to save his ass that made it back?
Nick Mingione of Kentucky
7th in the East in 2019- No NCAA Tourney
6th in the East in 2021- No NCAA Tourney
6th in the East in 2022- No NCAA Tourney
2023? Listed as a national seed (8th in the country) currently heading in the last SEC weekend
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Nick Mingione of Kentucky
7th in the East in 2019- No NCAA Tourney
6th in the East in 2021- No NCAA Tourney
6th in the East in 2022- No NCAA Tourney
2023? Listed as a national seed (8th in the country) currently heading in the last SEC weekend
Kentucky is currently #1 in the country in RPI.
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I can live with bringing Lemonis back if he?s committed.
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Originally Posted by
somebodyshotmypaw
I can live with bringing back if he?s committed.
Let me ask coach Lem if he is committed. He says YES! Buy your tickets now! ***
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Actually a lot of people are, sadly.
I don't know of a single one.
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