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    My all time favorite was the people that I saw tearing down a statue of that facist slave owner Winston Churchill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    My all time favorite was the people that I saw tearing down a statue of that facist slave owner Winston Churchill.
    That dang Churchill lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    My all time favorite was the people that I saw tearing down a statue of that facist slave owner Winston Churchill.
    It wasn't about him being a slave owner - it was about things like this -
    In 1937, Churchill told the Palestine Royal Commission: "I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place."
    And I'm not defending vandalism - but, Churchill is long known to be a very complex and controversial figure in England -
    https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29701767
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    Let's be real here. It's not about the meaning of statues. It's about toppling our government and way of life. They want a communist style of government. Most people have no clue what the statue is of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannyripms View Post
    Let's be real here. It's not about the meaning of statues. It's about toppling our government and way of life. They want a communist style of government. Most people have no clue what the statue is of.
    Well that is just stupid. Of course it is about 17n racist statues and correcting some bullshit that should have been corrected by white people 100 damn years ago. Definitely needed to be corrected at least 50 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    Well that is just stupid. Of course it is about 17n racist statues and correcting some bullshit that should have been corrected by white people 100 damn years ago. Definitely needed to be corrected at least 50 years ago.
    No ... I wish it were "stupid". If this were just about Confederate statues you might be right. But when it starts being Jefferson, Lincoln, Grant and even George Washington, then it's not just about statues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgday166 View Post
    No ... I wish it were "stupid". If this were just about Confederate statues you might be right. But when it starts being Jefferson, Lincoln, Grant and even George Washington, then it's not just about statues.
    Even with Jefferson and Washington, your statement said toppling our way of life. That is just flippin stupid, sorry it is. Overreaction and a total misrepresentation of what is happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    Well that is just stupid. Of course it is about 17n racist statues and correcting some bullshit that should have been corrected by white people 100 damn years ago. Definitely needed to be corrected at least 50 years ago.
    No it is not, even a leading black member of BLM, just 3 or 4 days ago, criticized the "ruling party" behind BLM - George Soros. This has evolved into an open communist uprising!

    See the following: https://www.newsbreak.com/district-o...illion-dollars

    And: https://populardemocracy.org/news-an...lives-matter-0

    And: https://www.influencewatch.org/movem...-lives-matter/

    And the Best one: https://www.yonkerstribune.com/2020/...by-leslie-taha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extendedcab View Post
    No it is not, even a leading black member of BLM, just 3 or 4 days ago, criticized the "ruling party" behind BLM - George Soros.
    Great "sources" as usual. All right leaning, mostly conspiracy theorist outlets for people like you that are looking for the "truth"... that fits their beliefs/agenda. I noticed one likes to use "woke" and "cancel culture" a whole lot. Makes sense based on your posts on ED.

    Here's what Media Bias/Fact-check said about one of these sites:

    "Overall, we rate Communities Digital News "Right Biased" based on story selection that always favors the Right and Mixed factually due to promotion of conspiracy theories and very poor sourcing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfdawg67 View Post
    Great "sources" as usual. All right leaning, mostly conspiracy theorist outlets for people like you that are looking for the "truth"... that fits their beliefs/agenda. I noticed one likes to use "woke" and "cancel culture" a whole lot. Makes sense based on your posts on ED.

    Here's what Media Bias/Fact-check said about one of these sites:

    "Overall, we rate Communities Digital News "Right Biased" based on story selection that always favors the Right and Mixed factually due to promotion of conspiracy theories and very poor sourcing."
    That dude used the Bible to justify slavery. He's just a troll and not worth respond to. Turn him to ignore and feel better off with out his racist spiel contaminating your screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfdawg67 View Post
    Great "sources" as usual. All right leaning, mostly conspiracy theorist outlets for people like you that are looking for the "truth"... that fits their beliefs/agenda. I noticed one likes to use "woke" and "cancel culture" a whole lot. Makes sense based on your posts on ED.

    Here's what Media Bias/Fact-check said about one of these sites:

    "Overall, we rate Communities Digital News "Right Biased" based on story selection that always favors the Right and Mixed factually due to promotion of conspiracy theories and very poor sourcing."

    Everything is right leaning to you except CNN! Time to view another news source!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    Well that is just stupid. Of course it is about 17n racist statues and correcting some bullshit that should have been corrected by white people 100 damn years ago. Definitely needed to be corrected at least 50 years ago.
    Any historical figure can be made into a villain if you examine their life from the future and judge them by today's standard of what is right and wrong.

    Martin Luther King was a womanizer and homophobe. Obvious enemy of equal rights for LGBTQ community. CANCEL

    FDR - Made the decision in WWII to send all Japanese Americans to concentration camps for the duration of the war. Obvious bigot. CANCEL

    So what. great men don't have flaws? Of course they do. Does that make their accomplishments not count ? Of course not.

    Also, it's pretty easy to see these flaws from the future, like you are doing. I hope someone takes a look at your extremely virtuous life 100 years from now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson View Post
    Any historical figure can be made into a villain if you examine their life from the future and judge them by today's standard of what is right and wrong.

    Martin Luther King was a womanizer and homophobe. Obvious enemy of equal rights for LGBTQ community. CANCEL

    FDR - Made the decision in WWII to send all Japanese Americans to concentration camps for the duration of the war. Obvious bigot. CANCEL

    So what. great men don't have flaws? Of course they do. Does that make their accomplishments not count ? Of course not.

    Also, it's pretty easy to see these flaws from the future, like you are doing. I hope someone takes a look at your extremely virtuous life 100 years from now.
    Solid post. We've gotten to a point in America where all we do is rip each other for our faults rather than celebrate our accomplishments. It's not just political either. It's the news. It's sports. Academics. Etc... "Excellence" is the only acceptable outcome. "C" students, that are average, are frowned upon. Average isn't poor. It's average!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson View Post
    Any historical figure can be made into a villain if you examine their life from the future and judge them by today's standard of what is right and wrong.

    Martin Luther King was a womanizer and homophobe. Obvious enemy of equal rights for LGBTQ community. CANCEL

    FDR - Made the decision in WWII to send all Japanese Americans to concentration camps for the duration of the war. Obvious bigot. CANCEL

    So what. great men don't have flaws? Of course they do. Does that make their accomplishments not count ? Of course not.

    Also, it's pretty easy to see these flaws from the future, like you are doing. I hope someone takes a look at your extremely virtuous life 100 years from now.


    Post of the year. People never take in the context of what was those years like. Back in the day people used to invade other countries, cut the kings head off, kill all the men and enslave the women and children. That was all races and all religions. But during that time that was the norm, was it right? Heck no. I like to think we have advanced as a humans and are more civilized. We have gotten better and we need to strive to do better but to look at history and try to condem a race based off 100 or more years ago is crazy. People say we need to look forward and move forward, well, that's what we all want so why don't some want to do it? Because there's money in keeping people at each other. It's total ridiculous and needs to stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannyripms View Post
    Let's be real here. It's not about the meaning of statues. It's about toppling our government and way of life. They want a communist style of government. Most people have no clue what the statue is of.
    Your ideas and way of life has been directly under attack for what...two months now? There are black folks that have had to deal with this shit there entire lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    My all time favorite was the people that I saw tearing down a statue of that facist slave owner Winston Churchill.
    I'll "one up you"... in Texico, a statue of Stevie Ray Vaughn was torn down...

    Now, that's some solid "Wokeness", right there....
    "It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TUSK View Post
    I'll "one up you"... in Texico, a statue of Stevie Ray Vaughn was torn down...

    Now, that's some solid "Wokeness", right there....
    If they were smart, they'd erect a statue of Michael Bolton in it's place...**


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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    If they were smart, they'd erect a statue of Michael Bolton in it's place...**

    That was solid, despite your commie lovin' 'tude.... I can't believe they chose Bolton over Che...****

    Oh, remind me to kill you....*
    "It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."

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    Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    My all time favorite was the people that I saw tearing down a statue of that facist slave owner Winston Churchill.
    Churchill was awesome for the British in WWII, but the dude did participate in genocide in Africa, if I am not mistaken.
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    Trump, the hill everyone is lining up to die on. What a 17n loser. I will give him this though, he sticks to his guns for a regular white citizen, unless it comes to actually doing something in their favor. You know an action. Tax break....yeah. temporary.
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