Rank the CWS teams

[ShotgunDawg]

We?ve been to Omaha 11 times. How would you rank the teams?

1971, 1979, 1981, 1985, 1990, 1997, 1998, 2007, 2013, 2018, 2019

Bonus - Out of the 11 which team should have won it all?

1985
2013

and

2016

Were all the best teams in the country but couldn't finish the deal.

Had that 2016 team made it through Arizona, I think they were home free. Had the 2013 team had a healthy Woodruff, they were home free & had 85 not had the pitcher's ankle hit by a line drive, they were home free.

[Todd4State]

1985
2013

and

2016

Were all the best teams in the country but couldn't finish the deal.

Had that 2016 team made it through Arizona, I think they were home free. Had the 2013 team had a healthy Woodruff, they were home free & had 85 not had the pitcher's ankle hit by a line drive, they were home free.

I agree. And 1984 and 1989 was another good teams that won the SEC and didn't make it to Omaha too.

[Homedawg]

I agree. And 1984 and 1989 was another good teams that won the SEC and didn't make it to Omaha too.

Two legit teams. Title contenders for sure. 89 lineup was best lineup ever. Not even a close second.

[ShotgunDawg]

Two legit teams. Title contenders for sure. 89 lineup was best lineup ever. Not even a close second.

Good chance the 2016 team ends up having 4 Major Leaguers in the every day lineup.

Did the 89 team have that many?

Not disagreeing with you, but I think what many of us run into in these debates is that some of these teams we were around during our growth years & thus their players were are heros, while other teams may technically be better but you didn't emotionally connect with at the same level

[Todd4State]

Good chance the 2016 team ends up having 4 Major Leaguers in the every day lineup.

Did the 89 team have that many?

Not disagreeing with you, but I think what many of us run into in these debates is that some of these teams we were around during our growth years & thus their players were are heros, while other teams may technically be better but you didn't emotionally connect with at the same level

Bobby Reed if he hadn't gotten hurt for sure.

[Homedawg]

Good chance the 2016 team ends up having 4 Major Leaguers in the every day lineup.

Did the 89 team have that many?

Not disagreeing with you, but I think what many of us run into in these debates is that some of these teams we were around during our growth years & thus their players were are heros, while other teams may technically be better but you didn't emotionally connect with at the same level

No, only one guy made it to the bigs from that lineup, Jon Shave(pete young doesn't count he made it as a pitcher). However, 1-9 it was the best offense we ever had. There were no holes and had depth on the bench that allowed moves during the course of the game. 85 had Clark and Palmeiro, but 6-9 were a green john Mitchell, (who was a tr fr who ended up being a good player) and 3 damn near auto outs. No depth. I agree 16 was a good one and i would put it up their close but not equal to 89, but ahead of 85 for sure.

[Commercecomet24]

No, only one guy made it to the bigs from that lineup, Jon Shave(pete young doesn't count he made it as a pitcher). However, 1-9 it was the best offense we ever had. There were no holes and had depth on the bench that allowed moves during the course of the game. 85 had Clark and Palmeiro, but 6-9 were a green john Mitchell, (who was a tr fr who ended up being a good player) and 3 damn near auto outs. No depth. I agree 16 was a good one and i would put it up their close but not equal to 89, but ahead of 85 for sure.

This. I went to a lot of games that year and that team could absolutely rake and the pitching was deep and good. Pretty good defensively too. There was almost no where a pitcher could go to get an out against that team, you just couldn't pitch around anyone.

[MStateDawg]

I agree. And 1984 and 1989 was another good teams that won the SEC and didn't make it to Omaha too.

‘89 was the best team we ever had. They just slipped up and got in the losers bracket of a 6 team regional which is almost impossible to get thru.

[Todd4State]

‘89 was the best team we ever had. They just slipped up and got in the losers bracket of a 6 team regional which is almost impossible to get thru.

To me 2013 and 2016 were better IMO. Our program has gone up a lot since the 1980's.

[shoeless joe]

1985
2013

and

2016

Were all the best teams in the country but couldn't finish the deal.

Had that 2016 team made it through Arizona, I think they were home free. Had the 2013 team had a healthy Woodruff, they were home free & had 85 not had the pitcher's ankle hit by a line drive, they were home free.

13 lacked pitching. Graveman may be my all time favorite pitcher at state but he wasn’t elite at that time. Our best arms were pen guys. I know looking at the major leaguers would lead you to the belief you have but to me they were an example of a team that got hot at the rite time...you may could argue they finally put it together. But again the pitching prevents me from saying they were THE best team in the country. I agree with your thoughts on the 16 team. The homerun rigby surrendered was the obvious killer but that one swing prevented us from making that run. Zero doubt in my mind we shove it in game three.

[ShotgunDawg]

13 lacked pitching. Graveman may be my all time favorite pitcher at state but he wasn’t elite at that time. Our best arms were pen guys. I know looking at the major leaguers would lead you to the belief you have but to me they were an example of a team that got hot at the rite time...you may could argue they finally put it together. But again the pitching prevents me from saying they were THE best team in the country. I agree with your thoughts on the 16 team. The homerun rigby surrendered was the obvious killer but that one swing prevented us from making that run. Zero doubt in my mind we shove it in game three.

Was the 2013 team perfect? No but they had BY FAR the most future Major Leaguers of any team in the country that year.

I get your point about the starting pitching and that's why I said "if Woodruff was healthy they were home free"

They were the best team though. A healthy Woodruff combined with a Graveman and a Major League bullpen, would've made them almost unbeatable from an analytical point of view.