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04-03-2021, 09:29 AM
#101
Originally Posted by
R2Dawg
Not sure what lens you are looking thru but newsflash, we ain't better than 50 years ago. Way worse.
You?re kidding right? I always find this argument fascinating. Please explain how they are worse. Not based on hottake media headlines but actual stats. Let?s hear it. We talking health? Life expectancy? Finance? Quality of life? Justice system? I mean...you?re basically saying the success of the civil rights movement and the repealing of Jim Crow Era laws (which ended is the late 60?s early 70?s) led to the US becoming worse. That?s an odd take.
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04-03-2021, 11:12 AM
#102
Originally Posted by
Saltydog
Same with big business. Delta airlines is spouting their b.s. about the law and the Georgia legislature has had discussion of revoking their tax exemption status. Good for them. Bout time somebody stood up to this b.s.
Another way to consider the situation is the opposite. In NJ and California were you have Left Wing domination.
The corporations and All Star games stay but it?s the middle class that has to leave with the extreme taxation and regulation.
Most companies simply auto Close all California operations as a standard process of M&A. You keep the minimum and move to Nevada. Same with New Jersey.
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04-03-2021, 11:31 AM
#103
Originally Posted by
Rex54
What a pathetic and cowardly cope.
You can be mad at the world. I just live in it. Times are good as a whole. Conspiracy theorists and extreme ideologists are losing their minds. Older folks are missing high school days. Nothing new there.
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04-03-2021, 11:39 AM
#104
I agree with Cooter to an extent. The difference is that with media and social media 24/7, everyone hears about every little thing that happens. That makes it seem like it?s bigger or more frequent. But I think it?s just that you hear about more frequently
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04-03-2021, 11:46 AM
#105
Originally Posted by
William Tecumsah Sherman
I agree with Cooter to an extent. The difference is that with media and social media 24/7, everyone hears about every little thing that happens. That makes it seem like it?s bigger or more frequent. But I think it?s just that you hear about more frequently
True. And a lot of people saying the world or country is horrible are people of faith and I get that side of it. It's a tough balancing act with that at times. But they're supposed to be the light in the world, not the darkness. Sometimes we've got to look in the mirror. YOU make your life/happiness what it is.
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04-03-2021, 12:11 PM
#106
Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
Times are good as a whole.
Sure if your only measurement is the stonk market. Many people realize that western civilization is rapidly going extinct though.
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04-03-2021, 12:14 PM
#107
Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
YOU make your life/happiness what it is.
Radical individualism, forget the collective. More symptoms why conservative ideology is a joke and why all culture is lost.
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04-03-2021, 02:43 PM
#108
Originally Posted by
WinningIsRelentless
Look at the end of the day some of the law is good but some of it just paints a picture oppression.
Banning people from passing out water and snacks in long lines is not a good look. I completely understand banning campaigns from being able to pass them out, but banning everyone is just stupid.
The intent is to ban politicians and their supporters from handing out water and snacks. I read on the other board that in black districts the average wait time in Atlanta was 56 minutes. That sounds terrible - if the election was in July or August. But in November? Nobody's going to pass out for lack of water in the chilly temperatures of autumn. Regardless, if people are having to wait an hour to vote something needs to be done about the number of voting precincts.
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04-03-2021, 03:11 PM
#109
Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
Most of it is minutia. The primary issues are the changes to the State Election Board. First, it removes the Secretary of State as the Chair and replaces him with an appointee of the Legislature. It can be argued this violates the State Constitution, as the Constitution gives the SOS the power of oversight of elections. Second, it gives that Elections Board the power to declare that a county elections board is derelict in their duties and can allow that counties votes to be thrown out. Which, if you follow Georgia politics, you know that this opens a window for partisan accusations to overturn local control and will be a tool for shenanigans (regardless of party). As I tell my non-Georgia friends - all you need to know about Georgia politics can be learned by reading about the Yazoo Land Frauds.
A few questions since you seem much more informed than I am. It seems the Election Board will have a Legislative appointee (who is supposed to be non-partisan but I know that's basically not possible) and then also appointed members of each political party. How does the Board make decisions? Simple majority vote? Is this Board more or less fair than having a elected S.O.S as the Chairperson? Also, I have the bill pulled up, but I can't find where votes can be thrown out by the Board.
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04-03-2021, 03:14 PM
#110
Originally Posted by
Rex54
Sure if your only measurement is the stonk market. Many people realize that western civilization is rapidly going extinct though.
No. It is not. There are several vocal idiots spouting that nonsense but it is simply not true. There is no quantitative data that proves what you are saying outside of some ultra liberal people on social media and in a few universities spouting that nonsense. I liken this anti-western and anti-American movement to the hippie movement of the 60?s and 70?s. In a decade it will be on the trash heap of history along with the hippie movement and so many others. This is because those that push it are mainly in the 15-25 year old age bracket. Within a few years they will enter into the work force and start careers and accumulating wealth and realize they were spitting lunacy (being led by the nose by a handful of vocal, adult socialists) and had no idea what they were talking about.
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04-03-2021, 03:17 PM
#111
Originally Posted by
Beaver
A few questions since you seem much more informed than I am. It seems the Election Board will have a Legislative appointee (who is supposed to be non-partisan but I know that's basically not possible) and then also appointed members of each political party. How does the Board make decisions? Simple majority vote? Is this Board more or less fair than having a elected S.O.S as the Chairperson? Also, I have the bill pulled up, but I can't find where votes can be thrown out by the Board.
They cannot. That is propaganda. Much like how democrats originally reported that it would restrict voting hours and keep people from voting, etc. that?s all false. Additionally, food and water can still be given out in line just not within a certain distance from a polling station.
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04-03-2021, 03:19 PM
#112
Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
Here's one better - Section 16 of the law allows any individual the ability to challenge the validity of the vote of an unlimited number of people within their district with no proof of malfeasance - just an accusation after the fact. So you will see more of the "dead voter" malarkey come up as an attempt to nullify votes. FYI - every "dead voter" allegation that was made by the Kraken crew in Georgia was proven wrong
So if I'm understanding correctly, section 16 says any challenge of an elector's eligibility must be made BEFORE the challenged elector votes, and/or before absentee ballots are cast. It also states the challenger has the burden of proof. So, I would think this would be an improvement from the last election right?
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04-03-2021, 03:24 PM
#113
Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
Exactly - Georgia has had voter ID for over a decade. the ID/SS # requirement for absentee is not a bad idea - I thought was a a flaw in the GA voter ID for years. They also did some good in lengthening early voting. But, the law blatantly creates some openings for abuse by the State Elections Board, made runoff absentee and early voting more difficult by shortening timeframes, and created a huge window for chaos with the clause allowing voters to challenge validity of another persons vote without proof.
Can you specify how the State Elections board (which should be made up of non-partisan* as well as members of all political parties) can abuse an election? I'm honestly asking, not trying to be disingenuous.
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04-03-2021, 03:35 PM
#114
Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
the problem is we have lines circling the inside of a school gymnasium, going out the door, and extending more than 250 feet from a building. Why? Because some counties in Georgia have cut the number of voting locations or have not kept up with growth and have not provided enough voting locations, equipment and manpower to make the process efficient and easy for all. Those are the issues the legislature should be working to fix - instead they ban water and won't let someone hold your place in line so you can go pee.
Section 18 states, "If, at the previous general election, a precinct contained more than 2000 electors and if electors desiring to vote on the day of the election had to wait in line for more than one hour before checking in to vote, the superintendent shall either reduce the size of such precinct so that it shall contain no more than 2000 electors in accordance with the procedures prescribed by this chapter for the division, alteration, and consolidation of precinct no later than 60 days before the next general election. For administering this Code section the chief manager of a precinct which contained more than 2000 electors at the previous general election shall submit a report thereof to the superintendent of the reported time from entering the line to checking in to vote. Such wait time shall be measured no fewer than three different times throughout the day (in the morning, at midday, and prior to the close of poles) an such results shall be recorded on a form provided by the Secretary of State. Any such change in the boundaries of a precinct shall conform with the requirements of subsection (a) Code Section 21-2-261.1"
Does this not address the very issue you're talking about here?
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04-03-2021, 04:05 PM
#115
Originally Posted by
Beaver
Section 18 states, "If, at the previous general election, a precinct contained more than 2000 electors and if electors desiring to vote on the day of the election had to wait in line for more than one hour before checking in to vote, the superintendent shall either reduce the size of such precinct so that it shall contain no more than 2000 electors in accordance with the procedures prescribed by this chapter for the division, alteration, and consolidation of precinct no later than 60 days before the next general election. For administering this Code section the chief manager of a precinct which contained more than 2000 electors at the previous general election shall submit a report thereof to the superintendent of the reported time from entering the line to checking in to vote. Such wait time shall be measured no fewer than three different times throughout the day (in the morning, at midday, and prior to the close of poles) an such results shall be recorded on a form provided by the Secretary of State. Any such change in the boundaries of a precinct shall conform with the requirements of subsection (a) Code Section 21-2-261.1"
Does this not address the very issue you're talking about here?
Where I live, in Madison County, Alabama there are 72 voting locations and 302,542 registered voters as of Oct 19, 2020. That's an average of 4,202 per polling station. So we average over twice the number of voters per precinct that Georgia allows. One polling place near me has over 8,000 registered voters, according to posters on NextDoor. Some said they were waiting over 3 hours to vote.
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04-03-2021, 04:18 PM
#116
Originally Posted by
Dawgology
No. It is not. There are several vocal idiots spouting that nonsense but it is simply not true. There is no quantitative data that proves what you are saying outside of some ultra liberal people on social media and in a few universities spouting that nonsense. I liken this anti-western and anti-American movement to the hippie movement of the 60?s and 70?s. In a decade it will be on the trash heap of history along with the hippie movement and so many others. This is because those that push it are mainly in the 15-25 year old age bracket. Within a few years they will enter into the work force and start careers and accumulating wealth and realize they were spitting lunacy (being led by the nose by a handful of vocal, adult socialists) and had no idea what they were talking about.
This is why you idiots are losing everything.
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04-03-2021, 04:31 PM
#117
Originally Posted by
Dawgology
No. It is not. There are several vocal idiots spouting that nonsense but it is simply not true. There is no quantitative data that proves what you are saying outside of some ultra liberal people on social media and in a few universities spouting that nonsense. I liken this anti-western and anti-American movement to the hippie movement of the 60?s and 70?s. In a decade it will be on the trash heap of history along with the hippie movement and so many others. This is because those that push it are mainly in the 15-25 year old age bracket. Within a few years they will enter into the work force and start careers and accumulating wealth and realize they were spitting lunacy (being led by the nose by a handful of vocal, adult socialists) and had no idea what they were talking about.
You idiots have no idea what's coming.
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04-03-2021, 04:40 PM
#118
Originally Posted by
Rex54
You idiots have no idea what's coming.
My God you are insufferable, lol.
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04-03-2021, 05:27 PM
#119
Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
My God you are insufferable, lol.
Keep on shilling for the most powerful corporations in world history. Fat, soy faced, and fans of Marvel movies is no way to go through life.
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04-03-2021, 07:15 PM
#120
Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
My God you are insufferable, lol.
C'mom Beardo, you can think of something worse than insufferable can't you? This guy is a complete and total whack job.
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