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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannyripms View Post
    Let's be real here. It's not about the meaning of statues. It's about toppling our government and way of life. They want a communist style of government. Most people have no clue what the statue is of.
    Well that is just stupid. Of course it is about 17n racist statues and correcting some bullshit that should have been corrected by white people 100 damn years ago. Definitely needed to be corrected at least 50 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    Well that is just stupid. Of course it is about 17n racist statues and correcting some bullshit that should have been corrected by white people 100 damn years ago. Definitely needed to be corrected at least 50 years ago.
    No ... I wish it were "stupid". If this were just about Confederate statues you might be right. But when it starts being Jefferson, Lincoln, Grant and even George Washington, then it's not just about statues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgday166 View Post
    No ... I wish it were "stupid". If this were just about Confederate statues you might be right. But when it starts being Jefferson, Lincoln, Grant and even George Washington, then it's not just about statues.
    Even with Jefferson and Washington, your statement said toppling our way of life. That is just flippin stupid, sorry it is. Overreaction and a total misrepresentation of what is happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    Well that is just stupid. Of course it is about 17n racist statues and correcting some bullshit that should have been corrected by white people 100 damn years ago. Definitely needed to be corrected at least 50 years ago.
    No it is not, even a leading black member of BLM, just 3 or 4 days ago, criticized the "ruling party" behind BLM - George Soros. This has evolved into an open communist uprising!

    See the following: https://www.newsbreak.com/district-o...illion-dollars

    And: https://populardemocracy.org/news-an...lives-matter-0

    And: https://www.influencewatch.org/movem...-lives-matter/

    And the Best one: https://www.yonkerstribune.com/2020/...by-leslie-taha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extendedcab View Post
    No it is not, even a leading black member of BLM, just 3 or 4 days ago, criticized the "ruling party" behind BLM - George Soros.
    Great "sources" as usual. All right leaning, mostly conspiracy theorist outlets for people like you that are looking for the "truth"... that fits their beliefs/agenda. I noticed one likes to use "woke" and "cancel culture" a whole lot. Makes sense based on your posts on ED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfdawg67 View Post
    Great "sources" as usual. All right leaning, mostly conspiracy theorist outlets for people like you that are looking for the "truth"... that fits their beliefs/agenda. I noticed one likes to use "woke" and "cancel culture" a whole lot. Makes sense based on your posts on ED.

    Here's what Media Bias/Fact-check said about one of these sites:

    "Overall, we rate Communities Digital News "Right Biased" based on story selection that always favors the Right and Mixed factually due to promotion of conspiracy theories and very poor sourcing."
    That dude used the Bible to justify slavery. He's just a troll and not worth respond to. Turn him to ignore and feel better off with out his racist spiel contaminating your screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfdawg67 View Post
    Great "sources" as usual. All right leaning, mostly conspiracy theorist outlets for people like you that are looking for the "truth"... that fits their beliefs/agenda. I noticed one likes to use "woke" and "cancel culture" a whole lot. Makes sense based on your posts on ED.

    Here's what Media Bias/Fact-check said about one of these sites:

    "Overall, we rate Communities Digital News "Right Biased" based on story selection that always favors the Right and Mixed factually due to promotion of conspiracy theories and very poor sourcing."

    Everything is right leaning to you except CNN! Time to view another news source!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    Well that is just stupid. Of course it is about 17n racist statues and correcting some bullshit that should have been corrected by white people 100 damn years ago. Definitely needed to be corrected at least 50 years ago.
    Any historical figure can be made into a villain if you examine their life from the future and judge them by today's standard of what is right and wrong.

    Martin Luther King was a womanizer and homophobe. Obvious enemy of equal rights for LGBTQ community. CANCEL

    FDR - Made the decision in WWII to send all Japanese Americans to concentration camps for the duration of the war. Obvious bigot. CANCEL

    So what. great men don't have flaws? Of course they do. Does that make their accomplishments not count ? Of course not.

    Also, it's pretty easy to see these flaws from the future, like you are doing. I hope someone takes a look at your extremely virtuous life 100 years from now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson View Post
    Any historical figure can be made into a villain if you examine their life from the future and judge them by today's standard of what is right and wrong.

    Martin Luther King was a womanizer and homophobe. Obvious enemy of equal rights for LGBTQ community. CANCEL

    FDR - Made the decision in WWII to send all Japanese Americans to concentration camps for the duration of the war. Obvious bigot. CANCEL

    So what. great men don't have flaws? Of course they do. Does that make their accomplishments not count ? Of course not.

    Also, it's pretty easy to see these flaws from the future, like you are doing. I hope someone takes a look at your extremely virtuous life 100 years from now.
    Solid post. We've gotten to a point in America where all we do is rip each other for our faults rather than celebrate our accomplishments. It's not just political either. It's the news. It's sports. Academics. Etc... "Excellence" is the only acceptable outcome. "C" students, that are average, are frowned upon. Average isn't poor. It's average!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson View Post
    Any historical figure can be made into a villain if you examine their life from the future and judge them by today's standard of what is right and wrong.

    Martin Luther King was a womanizer and homophobe. Obvious enemy of equal rights for LGBTQ community. CANCEL

    FDR - Made the decision in WWII to send all Japanese Americans to concentration camps for the duration of the war. Obvious bigot. CANCEL

    So what. great men don't have flaws? Of course they do. Does that make their accomplishments not count ? Of course not.

    Also, it's pretty easy to see these flaws from the future, like you are doing. I hope someone takes a look at your extremely virtuous life 100 years from now.


    Post of the year. People never take in the context of what was those years like. Back in the day people used to invade other countries, cut the kings head off, kill all the men and enslave the women and children. That was all races and all religions. But during that time that was the norm, was it right? Heck no. I like to think we have advanced as a humans and are more civilized. We have gotten better and we need to strive to do better but to look at history and try to condem a race based off 100 or more years ago is crazy. People say we need to look forward and move forward, well, that's what we all want so why don't some want to do it? Because there's money in keeping people at each other. It's total ridiculous and needs to stop.

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