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That is correct. We need to win out and win the first SEC tournament game. If we do that we should make it. If not it’s a long shot
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Originally Posted by
PGHBulldogBG
That is correct. We need to win out and win the first SEC tournament game. If we do that we should make it. If not it’s a long shot
If we beat both Vandy and SC, we are 100% in. If we beat SC but lose to Vandy, we're still probably in, but need to go on a little run in the SEC tournament to be sure. Lose to SC and we can start planning for the NIT.
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Originally Posted by
Bubb Rubb
If we beat both Vandy and SC, we are 100% in. If we beat SC but lose to Vandy, we're still probably in, but need to go on a little run in the SEC tournament to be sure. Lose to SC and we can start planning for the NIT.
We've heard that song many times over the years. We aren't 100% in with those wins, or even with those and a couple of SECT wins.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
We've heard that song many times over the years. We aren't 100% in with those wins, or even with those and a couple of SECT wins.
I don’t ever remember a year where we thought we were in and didn’t make it.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
I don’t ever remember a year where we thought we were in and didn’t make it.
2018 - we were tied for 7th in the SEC (9-9/22-11) Bama (8-10,19-15) and A&M (9-9, 20-12), who were both behind us in the SEC got in.
2012 - we were 6th in the SEC (8-8, 21-11)
2010 - we won the West (9-7, 23-11) Florida (9-7, 21-12) got in instead
All those are years real similar to this one from a record standpoint. '12 wasn't huge snub, but we had been ranked a good bit. '18 we really should have been in.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
2018 - we were tied for 7th in the SEC (9-9/22-11) Bama (8-10,19-15) and A&M (9-9, 20-12), who were both behind us in the SEC got in.
2012 - we were 6th in the SEC (8-8, 21-11)
2010 - we won the West (9-7, 23-11) Florida (9-7, 21-12) got in instead
All those are years real similar to this one from a record standpoint. '12 wasn't huge snub, but we had been ranked a good bit. '18 we really should have been in.
18 we played a terrible non con schedule and then had some just plain bad losses. @OM, @Mizzou, @Vandy, and @LSU.
12 we just folded down the stretch. Lost at home to UGA, @LSU, and @Auburn in a 3 game stretch that really tanked the season. I'm pretty sure the UGA game was the game that Hood came in the locker room after the game and said he was transferring and we had to talk him into playing the rest of the year. He was never the same and we were never the same.
10 showed that winning the West meant ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, which most of us knew already. We had bad non con losses that year. at home to Rider, and @WKU. Couple that with some bad conference losses like Auburn at home and at Bama and most knew we had to win the SEC Tourney to make it.
The difference this year is we really only have the one bad loss. @UGA.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
18 we played a terrible non con schedule and then had some just plain bad losses. @OM, @Mizzou, @Vandy, and @LSU.
12 we just folded down the stretch. Lost at home to UGA, @LSU, and @Auburn in a 3 game stretch that really tanked the season. I'm pretty sure the UGA game was the game that Hood came in the locker room after the game and said he was transferring and we had to talk him into playing the rest of the year. He was never the same and we were never the same.
10 showed that winning the West meant ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, which most of us knew already. We had bad non con losses that year. at home to Rider, and @WKU. Couple that with some bad conference losses like Auburn at home and at Bama and most knew we had to win the SEC Tourney to make it.
The difference this year is we really only have the one bad loss. @UGA.
Florida's a bad loss too, IMO.
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
2018 - we were tied for 7th in the SEC (9-9/22-11) Bama (8-10,19-15) and A&M (9-9, 20-12), who were both behind us in the SEC got in.
2012 - we were 6th in the SEC (8-8, 21-11)
2010 - we won the West (9-7, 23-11) Florida (9-7, 21-12) got in instead
All those are years real similar to this one from a record standpoint. '12 wasn't huge snub, but we had been ranked a good bit. '18 we really should have been in.
2010 we were on the bubble but projected out by most before the Tournament field was announced. Only 4 SEC teams made it in.
2012 we were right on the edge.
2018 we weren’t even really a bubble team. Looking back at Bracketology’s, nobody even mentioned us. Records aren’t created equally and the non-conference matters a ton in college basketball. Conference record doesn’t really matter too much, it?s who you beat and who you don’t over the full course of the season. Also the makeup of the conference changes, so these records between years don’t mean that much.
Everyone currently has us in, so if we won out and missed, it would be a shock. If we split this week, we’ll be in a similar boat to 2012. If we lose both, we’ll basically be where we were in 2018.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
2010 we were on the bubble but projected out by most before the Tournament field was announced. Only 4 SEC teams made it in.
2012 we were right on the edge.
2018 we weren’t even really a bubble team. Looking back at Bracketology’s, nobody even mentioned us. Records aren’t created equally and the non-conference matters a ton in college basketball. Conference record doesn’t really matter too much, it?s who you beat and who you don’t over the full course of the season. Also the makeup of the conference changes, so these records between years don’t mean that much.
Everyone currently has us in, so if we won out and missed, it would be a shock. If we split this week, we’ll be in a similar boat to 2012. If we lose both, we’ll basically be where we were in 2018.
I'd don't disagree. But, I bet if you comb the message board archives though, our fans were making a lot of the same "Win and we are 100% in" type comments (which is what my post was really about).
Bracketology and NET has made this a lot easier to project then the old days. But, as long as humans are making the selections there is always the chance for the snub.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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A NET of 38 has never been left out of the field. And the media seems to love us.
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
We've heard that song many times over the years. We aren't 100% in with those wins, or even with those and a couple of SECT wins.
If we win both of our remaining games, our NET will be somewhere around 36. If we didn't make the tourney as an at large team with a NET of 36, it will make history as the highest rated NET to not get a bid.
Win out and we're in.
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Originally Posted by
PGHBulldogBG
That is correct. We need to win out and win the first SEC tournament game. If we do that we should make it. If not it?s a long shot
This is not true. Win both this week and we are almost certainly in. Win 1 and we still have a shot. Win both and a game in the SECT and there?s basically no way we?re not in.
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