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Babe is the GOAT and non believers are foolin' themselves
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Has anyone ever separated themselves that far from their playin' peers?
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And just think what the guy may have done if he hadn't smoked and drank all the time.
"The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)
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#24
Originally Posted by
OLJWales
Has anyone ever separated themselves that far from their playin' peers?
from a pure overall talent #24 was the greatest. he was a true 5 tool player.
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#24 never set a World Series record for scoreless innings pitched. Ruth was 94-46 on the mound
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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What would the Babe be in today?s game?
Probably a LHP cause today they would not have wrecked his arm with +300 innings pitched per season before he turned 21.
Had the modern Babe played College ball in the 2020s...then his pitching and effortless power would have been on display
Funny thing about 5 tool hitters... they don?t mean Ace and Cy Young Candidate as one of the tools
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The Big Bambino , son of a saloon owner in Baltimore spent most years in schools for wayward boys in and out of trouble alll the time. His 29 2/3 scorless innings pitched in world series play stayed in tact until Whitey Ford broke that in 1962. Newspapers and a few video clips are all we have to go on regarding his gun out in right field.
What many have forgotten is how Ruth himself saved the game after the Blacksox Scandal. The game was teetering on the verge of collapse so the owners got together and decided to liven up the ball and "re-invent" the home run to bring extra excitement to the game. Tied or led the league in HR's 12 times, Led in RBI's 5 Times. 1921 is considered his best when one out of every 8 HR's hit that year in the American Leauge belonged to Ruth. 171 RBI's, 16 Triples , 44 doubles and topped it off with an .847 slugging average which no batter has EVAH come within .100 of doing. His lifetime slugging average is .690, .56 points bettern runner up Ted Williams. An 8 year run saw him lead the league in walks 7 of those years all the while having Lou Gehrig hitting behind him every single time proving again he was the most feared batter to ever step up to a plate. The man was simply a freak of nature, lightening reflexes, superb judgment and timing and excellent eye sight. No player ever came CLOSE to separating themselves from the field than The Babe. NOT. CLOSE. Edited to Add: Remember when watching those old clips too, that bat weighed 46 ounces.
Last edited by OLJWales; 03-15-2021 at 10:11 AM.
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Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
What would the Babe be in today?s game?
Probably a LHP cause today they would not have wrecked his arm with +300 innings pitched per season before he turned 21.
Had the modern Babe played College ball in the 2020s...then his pitching and effortless power would have been on display
Funny thing about 5 tool hitters... they don?t mean Ace and Cy Young Candidate as one of the tools
I doubt that because during the dead ball era, ERA's were way low so it's not that surprising that a scorless innings pitched record stayed around that long, it's just that this one belonged to Ruth. no way Ruth's Lumber would have been benched for pitching.
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#24
Originally Posted by
Coach34
#24 never set a World Series record for scoreless innings pitched. Ruth was 94-46 on the mound
Ruth didn't miss 2yrs Appx 266 games due to military service. 24 also missed two years of possible playing in the majors due to having to play in the negro league. 24 also played in the wind tunnel a/k/a candlestick for 12 years.
consider the 2 yrs negro league and 2 more military, those 4 years cost him min of 100 homruns (25 per year) take into account the candlestick effect 12 yrs @ 3-5 homeruns and you add another 50 add these 150 to his total of 660 and you have an unreachable 810.
one of my favorite quotes from 24 was when asked about stolen bases and his total (paraphrased) he said sure he could have stolen many more but he did not steal bases for records but when the team needed them still he is a 2 time member of the 30/30 club.
who else has held a runner at 3rd on a 420 ft flyout?
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Originally Posted by
dawgman
Ruth didn't miss 2yrs Appx 266 games due to military service. 24 also missed two years of possible playing in the majors due to having to play in the negro league. 24 also played in the wind tunnel a/k/a candlestick for 12 years.
consider the 2 yrs negro league and 2 more military, those 4 years cost him min of 100 homruns (25 per year) take into account the candlestick effect 12 yrs @ 3-5 homeruns and you add another 50 add these 150 to his total of 660 and you have an unreachable 810.
one of my favorite quotes from 24 was when asked about stolen bases and his total (paraphrased) he said sure he could have stolen many more but he did not steal bases for records but when the team needed them still he is a 2 time member of the 30/30 club.
who else has held a runner at 3rd on a 420 ft flyout?
Willie had an amazing 20 year run. Could he have hit 16 triples in a year with Ruth's Speed? Could he have led the league in walks 7 years while having Lou Gehrig hitting behind every single time? How many times did Willie's HR total surpass and entire team's? One year his slugging % was .846 and no one has ever come within 100 points of that except Ruth himself when he followed up with an .847 the next year. History tells us his Arm in RF was DEADLY and gunned down base runners at 2nd base with regularity but eventually, it was common knowledge for base runners considering to stretch singles into doubles.. Word was out, take caution when challenging his arm. His life time slugging % is .690 and the # 2 guy on that list is runner up Ted Williams, .56% less. Visiting players would always take Ruth out on the town hoping for a hung over Ruth to not kill them the next day. As he would be rounding 3rd, he'd tip his hat to the visiting dugout shouting "Where we Going Tonight Boys?" Nope, there's a reason a candy bar was named after The All Time Sultan of SWAT!
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Love the Babe. I do think he was the best to ever play the game. For conversational purposes though adding in the steroid guys there wasn't a better HR hitter than McGwire statistically speaking.
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Originally Posted by
Matt3467
Love the Babe. I do think he was the best to ever play the game. For conversational purposes though adding in the steroid guys there wasn't a better HR hitter than McGwire statistically speaking.
Nope. Hell Nope. I've laid the facts out and they are indisputable. "Statistically Speaking" ????? forget that "Shift 8" button?
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how many games of stickball did Ruth play in the streets of NY on the morning of a game?
Last edited by dawgman; 03-15-2021 at 12:25 PM.
Reason: spelling
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Originally Posted by
dawgman
how many games of stickball did Ruth play in the streets of NY on the morning of a game?
Man I love watching those clips of Willie doing that. What a Great Man he was (still is too, no?) But Ruth takes a back seat to NO ONE regarding interactions with fans, kids, the whole Lot. None.
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except for a sprinkler head, Mickey Mantle would have had more impressive statistics even though his stats were not too shabby anyway
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Originally Posted by
OLJWales
Man I love watching those clips of Willie doing that. What a Great Man he was (still is too, no?) But Ruth takes a back seat to NO ONE regarding interactions with fans, kids, the whole Lot. None.
that was meant to hi-light the fact that he might have been winded slightly come game time
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Originally Posted by
dawgman
that was meant to hi-light the fact that he might have been winded slightly come game time
LMAO, Rep Given Sir, Well Played
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The three greatest hitters of all-time are: Babe Ruth, Ted Williams, & Barry Bonds. You can make credible arguments for each.
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Originally Posted by
Rex54
The three greatest hitters of all-time are: Babe Ruth, Ted Williams, & Barry Bonds. You can make credible arguments for each.
If we're talking just pure hitting then a lot more should be added to the list. Ty Cobb, Rose, and Ichiro immediately come to mind.
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