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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfdawg67 View Post
    I know I'm in the minority, but I don't mind the M-State one, but the first iteration was horrible. Luckily, I don't think it ever graced our helmets though.

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    You aren't in the minority. The MState is the university logo as decided by MSU leadership. The MState logo is worn by fans everywhere on game days of all sports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen View Post
    You aren't in the minority. The MState is the university logo as decided by MSU leadership. The MState logo is worn by fans everywhere on game days of all sports.
    - The leadership was wrong.
    - Of course people wear it. What other options do they have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen View Post
    You aren't in the minority. The MState is the university logo as decided by MSU leadership. The MState logo is worn by fans everywhere on game days of all sports.
    Well, when you go to buy merchandise that is basically the only option you have. So yeah, that makes sense since that logo is what the merch stores sell.

    If they were all selling a different logo everyone would be wearing that logo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StateDawg44 View Post
    Well, when you go to buy merchandise that is basically the only option you have. So yeah, that makes sense since that logo is what the merch stores sell.

    that logo.
    Back in the fall I was at maroon and company. They had plenty of MS baseball logo polos, T-shirt's and jerseys. None sold out and most on sale.

    But hey.... if State fans want to create the narrative that all State fans hate their own logo, go ahead. That would be par for MSU. "Poor ole me trudging along with this god awful logo on my chest. If only we had leadership as smart as me, we'd win the national championship." Hahahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen View Post
    Back in the fall I was at maroon and company. They had plenty of MS baseball logo polos, T-shirt's and jerseys. None sold out and most on sale.
    They would sell if they were on the football helmet. That's the point.

    We aren't fully leveraging our best logo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    They would sell if they were on the football helmet. That's the point.

    Yes

    ETA: I can't believe we agree on something Gun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen View Post
    Back in the fall I was at maroon and company. They had plenty of MS baseball logo polos, T-shirt's and jerseys. None sold out and most on sale.

    But hey.... if State fans want to create the narrative that all State fans hate their own logo, go ahead. That would be par for MSU. "Poor ole me trudging along with this god awful logo on my chest. If only we had leadership as smart as me, we'd win the national championship." Hahahaha.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Maroonthirteen again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen View Post
    Back in the fall I was at maroon and company. They had plenty of MS baseball logo polos, T-shirt's and jerseys. None sold out and most on sale.

    But hey.... if State fans want to create the narrative that all State fans hate their own logo, go ahead. That would be par for MSU. "Poor ole me trudging along with this god awful logo on my chest. If only we had leadership as smart as me, we'd win the national championship." Hahahaha.

    Where did I say anything like that? Sorry your panties got in a bunch because you take it to heart when Shotgun makes fun of your opinion of which logo is better on a helmet. I'm not defending either of them. The whole conversation is dumb and strictly hypothetical.

    It's known in the MSU community the M over S is baseball. Whether the administration wants to change that is up to them. There is a private school here in Chattanooga who has nearly the exact colors and (M over S) logo for their school logo. So that wouldn't do us much good in this area for branding. Not like the M-State logo. But that's a drop in the bucket.

    Is it really surprising to you that all of the baseball attire didn't get bought up? It's a big MSU sport for those who love baseball but realistically, a large portion probably doesn't care much about it until we get into the postseason. So they buy the primary logo because that is their only option and can wear it to all sports without having to drop $300 on clothing to cover football and baseball.

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    The bottom line is, if you want to buy a shirt with your school's logo on it then you are going to buy the primary logo more than likely. If your team has a secondary logo for a particular sport and you don't care about that sport, you will stick with the primary. Since football has more fans more people buy the primary logo instead of the M over S ones you are referring to that were on sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StateDawg44 View Post
    The whole conversation is dumb and strictly hypothetical.
    This is all that needs to be said. It's just another retread of a tired Shotgun opinion that he desperately brings up when he can't think of any other topic. (See: South Endzone)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfdawg67 View Post
    This is all that needs to be said. It's just another retread of a tired Shotgun opinion that he desperately brings up when he can't think of any other topic. (See: South Endzone)
    Yeah, 63 replies based on only Shotgun wanting to talk about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Yeah, 63 replies based on only Shotgun wanting to talk about this.
    Yep, 21 by you and now 6 by me... plus the obligatory response from C34 stating that the logo in his avatar is the best. That's about half of them right there. No one is denying you know how to keep a thread going. Reply with at least 1/3 of the responses, even if you are just repeating yourself, to keep the thread at the top.

    But hey, with Scooba, Cadaver, Coach 34, Coach 007 and others MIA lately, I guess we need you Shotgun. (*pat on the back)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Yeah, 63 replies based on only Shotgun wanting to talk about this.
    To me, it's about looking at ways to improve. If I'm a CEO of a company and I'm "satisfied" with not growing and improving, I'm not going to be a CEO at that company very long. Same thing with everything we do at the university we all love. Just because some of us are not content with being mediocre, don't hate on those who look for ways we can improve as a university and specifically our athletic department. We all want to win, but with that comes a price. And that price is not being "ok" with a south end zone that looks like a drive-in theater, uniforms that don't get anyone excited, and a brand that looks like very little thought was given to. We've come a long way in a lot of areas, including facilities and uniforms, but we can do better.

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    You and shotgun and others have clearly stated MState is the only option. It isn't.

    I'm not upset. Matt Wyatt and people feeding Shotgun seem to be ones upset with a logo and pushing for a change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen View Post
    You and shotgun and others have clearly stated MState is the only option. It isn't.

    I'm not upset. Matt Wyatt and people feeding Shotgun seem to be ones upset with a logo and pushing for a change.
    My post clearly says "basically your only option"

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    After some thought I am not a fan of the script. The "s" looks like a backwards "&" and the school that I despise more than anything in the world has Script on their helmets and as if they are not annoying enough already, I can hear it now, "Lil brother had to copy us....."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen View Post
    Back in the fall I was at maroon and company. They had plenty of MS baseball logo polos, T-shirt's and jerseys. None sold out and most on sale.

    But hey.... if State fans want to create the narrative that all State fans hate their own logo, go ahead. That would be par for MSU. "Poor ole me trudging along with this god awful logo on my chest. If only we had leadership as smart as me, we'd win the national championship." Hahahaha.
    I think you just proved what the original poster was saying. It's our best logo but it's not leveraged. I LOVE the MoverS used by baseball....but it's only marketed as a baseball logo. College baseball (while fun) is about the 4th-5th ranked sport in college. It just doesn't pull as many fans. I've been buying vintage styled t-shirts since the M-State logo came out to avoid that eye-sore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgology View Post
    I think you just proved what the original poster was saying. It's our best logo but it's not leveraged. I LOVE the MoverS used by baseball....but it's only marketed as a baseball logo. College baseball (while fun) is about the 4th-5th ranked sport in college. It just doesn't pull as many fans. I've been buying vintage styled t-shirts since the M-State logo came out to avoid that eye-sore.
    It's marketing as a baseball logo because it is a quintessential baseball logo. see the the uniforms of the yankees, Mets etc etc.

    College baseball is a very close 2nd fan favorite sport at MSU. See this thread.

    Saying MS is the best logo is opinion. My opinion is that State fans like that logo because of the baseball history And the logo itself isn't that great. It's a simple baseball logo. Opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen View Post
    My opinion is that State fans like that logo because of the baseball history And the logo itself isn't that great. It's a simple baseball logo. Opinion.
    This is where we disagree. I think the logo is sharp, crisp, & Timeless
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