Former MSU Pitching Coach Wes Johnson to LSU

[msstate7]

Arch was never going to go to OM. He is like Peyton and wants to be his own guy. He only mentioned them sporadically out of respect to his Dad and Grandfather.

Well fine, throw him out. They can't compete with the big boys in football now that cheating is legal. I expect them to use some of that money to get baseball players. We should do the same

[Coach34]

Well fine, throw him out. They can't compete with the big boys in football now that cheating is legal. I expect them to use some of that money to get baseball players. We should do the same

Oh I agree there. NIL has made competing more expensive in everything and that is a problem for us

[ArrowDawg]

Well fine, throw him out. They can't compete with the big boys in football now that cheating is legal. I expect them to use some of that money to get baseball players. We should do the same

We should, but we aren't. We're getting our ass kicked in baseball NIL too. Things sure as awful quiet for us considering the fact that we're one year removed from a national title and the season has been over for a month.

[Todd4State]

We should, but we aren't. We're getting our ass kicked in baseball NIL too. Things sure as awful quiet for us considering the fact that we're one year removed from a national title and the season has been over for a month.

What we're offering in NIL is as competitive as the other SEC powers in baseball. It's a waiting game at this point.

The deadline to enter the portal is July 1. Once that deadline passes we'll know exactly who is in the portal and what our options are.

Then the next big deadline is the MLB draft which is a factor moreso with older draft eligible players. Once that happens and is over we'll know who is coming back from last year's team like Luke Hancock, we'll have an idea of how guys like Fristoe are doing in the summer, and who our freshmen and JUCO guys are going to be coming in. All of that factors in and dictates how we use the portal and who we target.

Too many of our fans expect no one to develop and want "proven" players. It was never going to be Cade Smith, Hunter Hines, and 20 guys from the portal.

The last time we were in this situation our fans all point to Jack Kruger and Nate Lowe helping us but the reality is they were only part of the turnaround- Jake Mangum, Konnor Pilkington, and Hunter Stovall all helped that team in 2016 immediately. And we also had some players develop in Dakota Hudson, Brent Rooker, Reid Humphreys, and Gavin Collins who all helped that team become much better. It's not one avenue- it's everything.

[Goldendawg]

What we're offering in NIL is as competitive as the other SEC powers in baseball. It's a waiting game at this point.

The deadline to enter the portal is July 1. Once that deadline passes we'll know exactly who is in the portal and what our options are.

Then the next big deadline is the MLB draft which is a factor moreso with older draft eligible players. Once that happens and is over we'll know who is coming back from last year's team like Luke Hancock, we'll have an idea of how guys like Fristoe are doing in the summer, and who our freshmen and JUCO guys are going to be coming in. All of that factors in and dictates how we use the portal and who we target.

Too many of our fans expect no one to develop and want "proven" players. It was never going to be Cade Smith, Hunter Hines, and 20 guys from the portal.

The last time we were in this situation our fans all point to Jack Kruger and Nate Lowe helping us but the reality is they were only part of the turnaround- Jake Mangum, Konnor Pilkington, and Hunter Stovall all helped that team in 2016 immediately. And we also had some players develop in Dakota Hudson, Brent Rooker, Reid Humphreys, and Gavin Collins who all helped that team become much better. It's not one avenue- it's everything.

Some good points Better have more development than 2022.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

What we're offering in NIL is as competitive as the other SEC powers in baseball. It's a waiting game at this point.

The deadline to enter the portal is July 1. Once that deadline passes we'll know exactly who is in the portal and what our options are.

Then the next big deadline is the MLB draft which is a factor moreso with older draft eligible players. Once that happens and is over we'll know who is coming back from last year's team like Luke Hancock, we'll have an idea of how guys like Fristoe are doing in the summer, and who our freshmen and JUCO guys are going to be coming in. All of that factors in and dictates how we use the portal and who we target.

Too many of our fans expect no one to develop and want "proven" players. It was never going to be Cade Smith, Hunter Hines, and 20 guys from the portal.

The last time we were in this situation our fans all point to Jack Kruger and Nate Lowe helping us but the reality is they were only part of the turnaround- Jake Mangum, Konnor Pilkington, and Hunter Stovall all helped that team in 2016 immediately. And we also had some players develop in Dakota Hudson, Brent Rooker, Reid Humphreys, and Gavin Collins who all helped that team become much better. It's not one avenue- it's everything.

Obviously you need good Fr and progress from the returners as well as good Portal guys. That was the most concerning thing from last year- the returners didn't progress, and the Fr/Lemo transfers were underwhelming outside of Hines.

BUT, I do not but the "we are waiting to see who's out there once the Portal closes, then using our immense NIL funds to snag few players to compliment the guys we have" line.

The guys we have kinda suck. Pitching especially, there is ZERO reason to let good pitchers commit to other schools as we "wait to see what happens after the draft" or whatever. Like we have been on good players that we NEED, and they have gone elsewhere. Most good players will be recruited as soon as they hit he portal; you can't just sit and wait.

and I don't buy for SECOND we have NIL money comparable to everyone else. LSU is poaching MLB assistants and getting the top portal player, who 100% was shopping to the highest bidder. We are poor and almost always will be behind the times. Baseball stadium is the only time we were ahead of the curve