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    Quote Originally Posted by Brahmabull View Post
    So now we are suggesting the Mike Leach doesn't know how to run practices to best teach "his" system???!!!!!!

    Bottom line is Leach is going to run his system with what we have even if we don't really have the right pieces for his system. We are just going to have to accept that we are in for a couple of rough seasons until he gets the right pieces in to execute his system. Look at his previous stops and you will see the first couple of years are tough.

    We have too much $$ invested. We are not making a change and Leach isn't going to change.
    Why do we think it?s okay for Mike Leach not to change? The best coaches adapt. Those that get stuck in their ways end up like Les Miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluelightstar View Post
    Why do we think it?s okay for Mike Leach not to change? The best coaches adapt. Those that get stuck in their ways end up like Les Miles.
    I didn't say it was ok, but we hired him knowing who he is. His record shows that he runs his system. He's not going to change. We knew that when we hired him, and if we didn't then that's not on Leach. It's on others.

    Obliviously, what Leach believes makes him one of the best coaches is how he runs his system. Not running someone else's system. We paid for Leach. Now we are just going to have to wait for him to get his system and guys needed to run it in play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brahmabull View Post
    I didn't say it was ok, but we hired him knowing who he is. His record shows that he runs his system. He's not going to change. We knew that when we hired him, and if we didn't then that's not on Leach. It's on others.

    Obliviously, what Leach believes makes him one of the best coaches is how he runs his system. Not running someone else's system. We paid for Leach. Now we are just going to have to wait for him to get his system and guys needed to run it in play.
    Up to this point, why should he change? He has never HAD to change because his offense has always been successful both in the Big12 and PAC12. I mean maybe not so much in the Apple Cup but its easy to explain that away as a talent differential when the offense was still good the other 11 games in the PAC12. Now if he can't defeat the rush 3 drop 8 defense IN THE SEC when he gets a full spring practice and some more of his players in here then he will HAVE to adjust or he will be out of a job. I don't think Leach is a guy that takes failure well so I find it hard to believe he won't make some adjustments if it becomes obvious that we can't defeat the drop 8 scheme in the SEC with the way he is currently doing things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    Up to this point, why should he change? He has never HAD to change because his offense has always been successful both in the Big12 and PAC12. I mean maybe not so much in the Apple Cup but its easy to explain that away as a talent differential when the offense was still good the other 11 games in the PAC12. Now if he can't defeat the rush 3 drop 8 defense IN THE SEC when he gets a full spring practice and some more of his players in here then he will HAVE to adjust or he will be out of a job. I don't think Leach is a guy that takes failure well so I find it hard to believe he won't make some adjustments if it becomes obvious that we can't defeat the drop 8 scheme in the SEC with the way he is currently doing things.
    But it's already obvious that this year's team cannot defeat the drop 8 scheme, so what's he waiting on? Is Leach just going to throw away this whole season because he doesn't have his guys yet? This is what worries me about him. I don't see the point in his stubborness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluelightstar View Post
    Why do we think it?s okay for Mike Leach not to change? The best coaches adapt. Those that get stuck in their ways end up like Les Miles.
    This is how I feel. No coach ever has been able to sustain success without adapting. Prime example is Saban. He made changes at the same school in the same conference AFTER winning multiple titles. And that's how he won another one soon after.
    I honestly thought Leach would adapt and maybe he will, but so far indicators say that he won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluelightstar View Post
    Why do we think it?s okay for Mike Leach not to change? The best coaches adapt. Those that get stuck in their ways end up like Les Miles.
    It's not that it's ok to not change, it's just it's hard to change a successful system based on 3 games where players are not doing the basics.

    The one thing that it appears we need to adjust on is OL blocking. We are consistently having 5 beat by 3. Maybe that's primarily a talent issue where our OL are just not recruited for nor suited for this type of blocking, but if that's the case, you don't just say "well this year is going to suck". You have to do something to compensate for the lack of talent besides waiting for new talent. But it's hard to know what needs to be adjusted overlal when the QB and WRs aren't on the same page.

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