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05-02-2020, 09:14 PM
#2981
I don't think we know as much as we thought we did.
My Mom's nursing home had an employee show up for work with aches and pains but no fever. NH sent the EE home to go to the MD to be examined. MD said EE didn't need COVID test gave meds and released to work. NH tested EE as a precaution and EE tested positive.
I get weekly updates from the administrator via snail mail.
Does a symptomatic mean contagious? I haven't found a response that states asymptomatic means you can transfer COVID.
Last edited by Bass Chaser; 05-02-2020 at 09:19 PM.
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05-02-2020, 09:38 PM
#2982
Originally Posted by
Dawg2003
So physicians are fraudulently saying people have COVID?
No, but they aren't telling them to go home and self-quarantine like they were. They're admitting them more now.
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05-02-2020, 09:47 PM
#2983
Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
No, but they aren't telling them to go home and self-quarantine like they were. They're admitting them more now.
Would explain the spike in hospitalizations
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05-02-2020, 09:50 PM
#2984
Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
No, but they aren't telling them to go home and self-quarantine like they were. They're admitting them more now.
This is exactly what's happening.
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05-02-2020, 10:19 PM
#2985
Originally Posted by
Bass Chaser
I don't think we know as much as we thought we did.
My Mom's nursing home had an employee show up for work with aches and pains but no fever. NH sent the EE home to go to the MD to be examined. MD said EE didn't need COVID test gave meds and released to work. NH tested EE as a precaution and EE tested positive.
I get weekly updates from the administrator via snail mail.
Does a symptomatic mean contagious? I haven't found a response that states asymptomatic means you can transfer COVID.
Symptomatic just means that you have symptoms of a disease and it's a general term.
In this case to answer your question- yes, this person is contagious since we are talking about Coronavirus.
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05-02-2020, 11:03 PM
#2986
Just watched an Ofificer and Gentleman..., again..... sappy outstandingly good movie! If you don't like that one.. you are not an American.
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05-03-2020, 01:19 AM
#2987
Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
Just watched an Ofificer and Gentleman..., again..... sappy outstandingly good movie! If you don't like that one.. you are not an American.
Great movie. Lou Gossett one of my favorites.
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05-03-2020, 03:06 AM
#2988
I had a previous co-worker (retired) who caught COVID about 10 days ago. She's 72, has COPD and kidney failure, along with other issues, and went on a vent. She came off the vent yesterday. Crazy how this virus doesn't kill someone like that.
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05-03-2020, 08:33 AM
#2989
Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Great movie. Lou Gossett one of my favorites.
Gossett in Iron Eagle and Enemy Mine...yes.
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05-03-2020, 08:37 AM
#2990
Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
I had a previous co-worker (retired) who caught COVID about 10 days ago. She's 72, has COPD and kidney failure, along with other issues, and went on a vent. She came off the vent yesterday. Crazy how this virus doesn't kill someone like that.
Some people are just tough as nails and their body won't quit. I had an uncle who was a fireman. That guy was a medical Rasputin. He had bouts with 4 different cancers, emphysema, a heart attack, and was stabbed, all in this 70s. Was dead on the table 3 times. Took a car wreck that wasn't his fault to kill him.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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05-03-2020, 09:33 AM
#2991
Originally Posted by
Bass Chaser
I don't think we know as much as we thought we did.
My Mom's nursing home had an employee show up for work with aches and pains but no fever. NH sent the EE home to go to the MD to be examined. MD said EE didn't need COVID test gave meds and released to work. NH tested EE as a precaution and EE tested positive.
I get weekly updates from the administrator via snail mail.
Does a symptomatic mean contagious? I haven't found a response that states asymptomatic means you can transfer COVID.
Symptoms are different with everyone. I never really had a fever but I could breath for 3 weeks. My admin assistant had a fever for an entire week but had no problem breathing. My son has a cough but no other symptoms. All Covid. If you show any symptom..... stay away from people. Not only are you risking others but you're also risking yourself of getting a high viral load.
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05-03-2020, 11:53 AM
#2992
Originally Posted by
defiantdog
Symptoms are different with everyone. I never really had a fever but I could breath for 3 weeks. My admin assistant had a fever for an entire week but had no problem breathing. My son has a cough but no other symptoms. All Covid. If you show any symptom..... stay away from people. Not only are you risking others but you're also risking yourself of getting a high viral load.
It's crazy how it affects people so differently.
Especially older people but not children whose immune systems are still not strong. Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but I understand how people could think it was modified to target a specific subset.
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05-03-2020, 12:08 PM
#2993
Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
No, but they aren't telling them to go home and self-quarantine like they were. They're admitting them more now.
Where is your data to show this? I'd be interested in seeing where you see hospitalizations increasing.
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05-03-2020, 01:03 PM
#2994
Originally Posted by
Gutter Cobreh
Where is your data to show this? I'd be interested in seeing where you see hospitalizations increasing.
Scroll down bout halfway to the chart that shows hospitalizations.
https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/14,0,420.html
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05-03-2020, 01:19 PM
#2995
Originally Posted by
confucius say
Thanks for the information!
The chart looks like hospitalizations are dropping as of May 1st, so to Cooter's and Commmerce's how does this show that hospitals are admitting more patients to drive their revenues/reimbursements?
It looks like MS has a population of 3 million, 7,400+ confirmed cases, and only 424 currently hospitalized. Please explain again how hospitals are "gaming" the system and admitting patients that don't need to be? Seems like an awful low number of hospitalizations, as compared to either the overall census and confirmed cases.
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05-03-2020, 01:46 PM
#2996
Originally Posted by
Gutter Cobreh
Thanks for the information!
The chart looks like hospitalizations are dropping as of May 1st, so to Cooter's and Commmerce's how does this show that hospitals are admitting more patients to drive their revenues/reimbursements?
It looks like MS has a population of 3 million, 7,400+ confirmed cases, and only 424 currently hospitalized. Please explain again how hospitals are "gaming" the system and admitting patients that don't need to be? Seems like an awful low number of hospitalizations, as compared to either the overall census and confirmed cases.
I think the point is if you look since mid April (when hospitals started laying people off for lack of business) the hospitalization numbers are up about 133% but ventilators are down and icu numbers have stayed the same
ETA: nearly 200%, or doubled, since April 12. All while icu has stayed steady and vents are down.
Last edited by confucius say; 05-03-2020 at 01:54 PM.
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05-03-2020, 01:52 PM
#2997
Originally Posted by
confucius say
I think the point is if you look since mid April (when hospitals started laying people off for lack of business) the hospitalization numbers are up about 133% but ventilators are down and icu numbers have stayed the same
This is correct.
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05-03-2020, 03:20 PM
#2998
I hate to tell you guys this but you just can't admit someone to the hospital just because you want to. Not if you want to get paid.
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05-03-2020, 03:20 PM
#2999
Originally Posted by
confucius say
I think the point is if you look since mid April (when hospitals started laying people off for lack of business) the hospitalization numbers are up about 133% but ventilators are down and icu numbers have stayed the same
ETA: nearly 200%, or doubled, since April 12. All while icu has stayed steady and vents are down.
So you're saying that an increased hospitalization of 87 patients statewide between April 15th - May 1st is enough evidence for you to claim that all hospitals are admitting to increase revenue? Also, vents and ICUs are relatively flat during that time frame.
As has already been stated, there is a good chance nursing homes or long term care locations may be referring residents to hospitals to remove them from their situation and to get better care. This care doesn't have to be an ICU or a vent, but a hospital has more resources. It couldn't be that though could it; it has to be that hospitals are greedy and need the revenue.
I'm sure the reimbursement of 87 COVID patients will ensure that all the hospitals in MS will stay liquid....
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05-03-2020, 03:46 PM
#3000
Originally Posted by
Gutter Cobreh
So you're saying that an increased hospitalization of 87 patients statewide between April 15th - May 1st is enough evidence for you to claim that all hospitals are admitting to increase revenue? Also, vents and ICUs are relatively flat during that time frame.
As has already been stated, there is a good chance nursing homes or long term care locations may be referring residents to hospitals to remove them from their situation and to get better care. This care doesn't have to be an ICU or a vent, but a hospital has more resources. It couldn't be that though could it; it has to be that hospitals are greedy and need the revenue.
I'm sure the reimbursement of 87 COVID patients will ensure that all the hospitals in MS will stay liquid....
I'm not saying hospitals are doing this or not, but this article says a woman's COVID treatments was $34,927.43. That times 87 is over 3 million dollars, so hardly insignificant
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