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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    Sure, but your sentence is a rebuttal of someone saying our floor is 6-6. All I'm saying is that our ceiling can't be 8-4 if we had a real chance at 9-3 already under Leach.
    Fair point. I'm just saying that it's rare for ALL of the swing games to go for you or against you. So maybe we should have beaten Memphis but lost to LaTech. Or maybe we should have beaten Arkansas but lost to A&M. The record would have been the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somebodyshotmypaw View Post
    Fair point. I'm just saying that it's rare for ALL of the swing games to go for you or against you. So maybe we should have beaten Memphis but lost to LaTech. Or maybe we should have beaten Arkansas but lost to A&M. The record would have been the same.
    You are arguing 2 different things. The ceiling is what you can be if everything goes right. The floor is what you can be if everything goes wrong. What you're talking about is the mean. Our ceiling is higher than 8-4. It's unlikely that we hit our ceiling, but if everything goes right we can beat everyone on the schedule outside Alabama and Georgia. That's best case scenario, though unlikely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    You are arguing 2 different things. The ceiling is what you can be if everything goes right. The floor is what you can be if everything goes wrong. What you're talking about is the mean. Our ceiling is higher than 8-4. It's unlikely that we hit our ceiling, but if everything goes right we can beat everyone on the schedule outside Alabama and Georgia. That's best case scenario, though unlikely.
    Fair point. I guess by ceiling I meant the realistic high point that is realistically achieved. I don't look at "everything goes right" or "everything goes wrong" because that doesn't happen.

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    About the Memphis game..... ANY TIME Memphis plays an SEC team, they are bringing their best game. They are going to play physical for 60 minutes. I hope the football team learned a lesson last year to take Memphis seriously. Because all these ifs ands and buts about the Memphis game, could have been avoided. Fumbling a simple QB/RB handoff exchange. Not properly downing a ball (yeah the call was bullshit but the effort was halfass as well). Missing FGs. On and on. Memphis was extremely physical that day. State was just trying to notch a w and leave. What IF State would have been better prepared that day???? Leach better have them prepared when the Tigers drive down this year. It won't be a cake walk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen View Post
    About the Memphis game..... ANY TIME Memphis plays an SEC team, they are bringing their best game. They are going to play physical for 60 minutes. I hope the football team learned a lesson last year to take Memphis seriously.
    Serious question- in the last 15 years- has State or Mississippi blown out Memphis? They really get up to play the SEC. They slammed Kimchee on his head. Expecting us to blow them out is pretty unrealistic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Serious question- in the last 15 years- has State or Mississippi blown out Memphis? They really get up to play the SEC. They slammed Kimchee on his head. Expecting us to blow them out is pretty unrealistic
    The Jackie and Mullen years were good to us in this series. They played us close some. We beat them by a few TDs on occasion.

    Oddest game I can remember was 2003. They were good that year. We were bad. They Had the NFL RB and a good QB. It was the Jackie/Tommy face off post game, game. Joe Lee circled his calendar. Anyways... That was an unexpected win for us.

    Biggest disappointment was 1993 and obviously 2021. But 93 kicked off the year in Starkville, Memphis put on an offense show and State couldn't keep pace. Memphis finished 6-5 that year.

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