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Look I have a ton of issues with BLM and I'm by no means a leftist. This comment has nothing to do with whether BLM activism is good or bad, it has to do with the logic you're using:
Yes, people booed the BLM stuff. Unpopularity of an issue doesn't mean it's wrong- most football fans in the 60s would have booed MLK, does that make his movement wrong?
And further, is BLM really "dividing the nation", or was the divide always there you just didn't have it shoved in your face? Again to go back to the late 50s and early 60's social justice movements, you could argue that MLK and other black leaders were "dividing the country" by making whites face what was happening. But I think most of us can agree the horrible racism and injustice black people were facing existed long before it was brought to the forefront and America had to deal with it.
Is racism among police a big issue? Is policing in general a big issue? Do black people still face injustices? I don't claim to know. All I'm saying is that movements for progress are often "booed" and disliked by many.
Whether BLM is good or bad isn't my point: My point is that that you can't judge a movements' merits by popular opinion
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Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
Look I have a ton of issues with BLM and I'm by no means a leftist. This comment has nothing to do with whether BLM activism is good or bad, it has to do with the logic you're using:
Yes, people booed the BLM stuff. Unpopularity of an issue doesn't mean it's wrong- most football fans in the 60s would have booed MLK, does that make his movement wrong?
And further, is BLM really "dividing the nation", or was the divide always there you just didn't have it shoved in your face? Again to go back to the late 50s and early 60's social justice movements, you could argue that MLK and other black leaders were "dividing the country" by making whites face what was happening. But I think most of us can agree the horrible racism and injustice black people were facing existed long before it was brought to the forefront and America had to deal with it.
Is racism among police a big issue? Is policing in general a big issue? Do black people still face injustices? I don't claim to know. All I'm saying is that movements for progress are often "booed" and disliked by many.
Whether BLM is good or bad isn't my point: My point is that that you can't judge a movements' merits by popular opinion
I appreciate you looking at it objectively. I find it amazing that pretty much all players across most sports and 99.9% of black people speak up about their perceived racial injustices, just to have a bunch of white armchair quarterbacks tell them "nah that's not what you've experienced so shut up and get this off my tv." Now its clear you can get bogged down in some of the politics of it, for instance focusing on BLM the organization, but most of these players and people don't give 2 shits about the actual organization. You don't have to like it or watch it, but the fact it bothers so many people to a degree shows that a problem exists.
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Originally Posted by
chef dixon
I appreciate you looking at it objectively. I find it amazing that pretty much all players across most sports and 99.9% of black people speak up about their perceived racial injustices, just to have a bunch of white armchair quarterbacks tell them "nah that's not what you've experienced so shut up and get this off my tv." Now its clear you can get bogged down in some of the politics of it, for instance focusing on BLM the organization, but most of these players and people don't give 2 shits about the actual organization. You don't have to like it or watch it, but the fact it bothers so many people to a degree shows that a problem exists.
Nevermind. God bless.
Last edited by Jarius; 09-11-2020 at 10:41 PM.
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Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
Look I have a ton of issues with BLM and I'm by no means a leftist. This comment has nothing to do with whether BLM activism is good or bad, it has to do with the logic you're using:
Yes, people booed the BLM stuff. Unpopularity of an issue doesn't mean it's wrong- most football fans in the 60s would have booed MLK, does that make his movement wrong?
And further, is BLM really "dividing the nation", or was the divide always there you just didn't have it shoved in your face? Again to go back to the late 50s and early 60's social justice movements, you could argue that MLK and other black leaders were "dividing the country" by making whites face what was happening. But I think most of us can agree the horrible racism and injustice black people were facing existed long before it was brought to the forefront and America had to deal with it.
Is racism among police a big issue? Is policing in general a big issue? Do black people still face injustices? I don't claim to know. All I'm saying is that movements for progress are often "booed" and disliked by many.
Whether BLM is good or bad isn't my point: My point is that that you can't judge a movements' merits by popular opinion
So you are on the fence about a group supporting Marxism?
Interesting......
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Originally Posted by
dawgoneyall
So you are on the fence about a group supporting Marxism?
Interesting......
Always trying to make it about something that it's not. Where would you stand if there was no BLM, just everyday people asking, requesting and demanding equality for ALL? Yep just what I figured, you find a different political angle to try and derail the real cause.
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Originally Posted by
grandprairiedog
Always trying to make it about something that it's not. Where would you stand if there was no BLM, just everyday people asking, requesting and demanding equality for ALL? Yep just what I figured, you find a different political angle to try and derail the real cause.
do you want equality for all in terms of opportunity or outcome? There's a huge difference in the 2.
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Originally Posted by
grandprairiedog
Always trying to make it about something that it's not. Where would you stand if there was no BLM, just everyday people asking, requesting and demanding equality for ALL? Yep just what I figured, you find a different political angle to try and derail the real cause.
Hey Einstein there is a BLM....a very marxist, police hating organization.
Yep, right all this BS isn't political.
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