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07-10-2020, 08:36 PM
#4401
Originally Posted by
confucius say
How deaths look?
849
They look to be trending up some.
Last edited by msstate7; 07-10-2020 at 08:48 PM.
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07-10-2020, 08:46 PM
#4402
Similar to last few days. Slightly down. Will be interesting to see if they continue to climb or level off. They had to go back up at least some with such a huge case rise
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07-10-2020, 08:59 PM
#4403
Vaccine by Pfizer showing promise in clinical trials. Saying early results showing it is producing antibodies equal to greater antibodies than the actual virus.
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07-10-2020, 09:06 PM
#4404
Originally Posted by
starkvegasdawg
Vaccine by Pfizer showing promise in clinical trials. Saying early results showing it is producing antibodies equal to greater antibodies than the actual virus.
If it pans out, phizer will make a boat load of money
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07-10-2020, 09:23 PM
#4405
Originally Posted by
starkvegasdawg
Vaccine by Pfizer showing promise in clinical trials. Saying early results showing it is producing antibodies equal to greater antibodies than the actual virus.
An article I read said that two treatment options are showing promise. Chemical 11-A and monoclonal antibodies. 11A is an antiviral that attaches to the protease and essentially halts replication. Animal trials have proven to be encouraging, and human trials start soon. The monoclonal antibodies are more of a preventative treatment that stops the virus before it starts. 2,000 people will take part in these trials in the coming weeks. The good thing about these types of treatments are that the trial process goes by much quicker than the vaccine trials. Yeah, a vaccine that would nip this shit in the bud would be nice, but if we can figure out a way effectively treat this thing, the wait for a vaccine becomes less urgent.
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07-10-2020, 10:14 PM
#4406
Originally Posted by
msstate7
CDC estimates 10-12x the documented cases, so if they right, 32-38 million. If their est is correct, we closer than 98%.
Agree. But that won't be the motto. And either way a ton to go and that's assuming immunity which Is probably not that likely.
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07-10-2020, 10:51 PM
#4407
Originally Posted by
msstate7
849
They look to be trending up some.
Have you checked death by suicide? Depression numbers up 40% ...
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07-11-2020, 07:25 AM
#4408
Sweden's case numbers look to be going down considerably. Is anyone following it closely enough to know if testing is remaining consistent? Have they changed policies? It would be a pretty good sign for us if they are starting to hit herd immunity.
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07-11-2020, 10:23 AM
#4409
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Sweden's case numbers look to be going down considerably. Is anyone following it closely enough to know if testing is remaining consistent? Have they changed policies? It would be a pretty good sign for us if they are starting to hit herd immunity.
Seems to be getting better there. However, they still have had 12x as many deaths per capita as Norway and the impact on the economy is about the same.
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07-11-2020, 10:23 AM
#4410
Last edited by hacker; 07-11-2020 at 10:30 AM.
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07-11-2020, 10:32 AM
#4411
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07-11-2020, 10:34 AM
#4412
Originally Posted by
hacker
Seems to be getting better there. However, they still have had 12x as many deaths per capita as Norway and the impact on the economy is about the same.
At this point, I'm more interested in why the cases are dropping. If they're hitting a herd immunity wall, this summer surge could end up not being such a bad thing for us.
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07-11-2020, 11:22 AM
#4413
Originally Posted by
msstate7
At this point, I'm more interested in why the cases are dropping. If they're hitting a herd immunity wall, this summer surge could end up not being such a bad thing for us.
Yeah, I'm also interested in what's going on. I found this:
Experts pointed to a host of reasons for the shifting numbers. They credited myriad factors, including the arrival of summer, with fewer people in offices creating more distance, and Sweden quietly taking steps to protect people in care homes. Johan Carlson, the director-general of Sweden's public health agency, credited the "effect of us keeping up the social distancing" for the decline.
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"The short answer is, that there is no short answer," Pekka Nuorti, an epidemiologist in Finland's Tampere University, told Business Insider, pointing to changes in testing, changes in behaviors, and more time spent outside.
Some more tidbits in there: https://www.businessinsider.com/swed...-worked-2020-7
It looks like their testing is about the same as it's been.
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07-11-2020, 12:15 PM
#4414
Originally Posted by
msstate7
At this point, I'm more interested in why the cases are dropping. If they're hitting a herd immunity wall, this summer surge could end up not being such a bad thing for us.
I've had same thoughts. Could that explain New York also. They are having 1/10 the cases they had in April.
That is why you make no decisions affecting sept and October right now.
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07-11-2020, 12:21 PM
#4415
Just found out my cousin has it. Not hospitalized at this time. Said she always wears a mask but for whatever reason went to a wedding and funeral without it and that did it.
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07-11-2020, 05:17 PM
#4416
First weekly rise in deaths since April
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07-11-2020, 06:09 PM
#4417
Donny boy bent the knee to the crazies and put on the mask publicly.
To quote Mr. Graham: "Better late than never, but never late is better."
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07-11-2020, 09:15 PM
#4418
Originally Posted by
hacker
First weekly rise in deaths since April
Deaths always are a lagging indicator. If you didn't see that coming you are stupid. It will get worse. Want it to eventually go down without a lockdown, wear a 17ing mask.
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07-11-2020, 09:34 PM
#4419
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07-11-2020, 09:43 PM
#4420
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Oh, it's only a severe flu season....a disease we have a vaccination for and several drugs that specifically treat it. Got any evidence to counteract those FACTS? I
will spare you the humiliation...,.you don't. I take it you haven't been personally affected yet. Hopefully you never are.
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