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07-14-2020, 07:50 PM
#4501
Originally Posted by
99jc
live from Arizona......................just one thing this is not i repeat not the damn flu. i swear!
Stay safe, dude.
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07-14-2020, 07:56 PM
#4502
Originally Posted by
Homedawg
But the guy who used a ONE day death toll in AL is ok??? gotcha, ........
Simmer down. See my reply to MSState 7 below.
Originally Posted by
msstate7
The largest death total ever to Covid in Alabama is included in my window. What you talking about?
Obviously, I didn't understand what the dates and death toll you were using - which is why I asked. I wasn't trying a "gotcha" - I was sincerely asking. I was mainly perplexed at why you used a 3 day time frame, but at this point it doesn't matter. Thanks for the reply.
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07-14-2020, 08:05 PM
#4503
Originally Posted by
Dawgfan77
Why do you continue to attack me? I said nothing wrong only what I'm told.
Sorry your buddies hours were cut back; sounds like he/she has a chance to pick up some extra work at the other hospitals around town as it would seem they have their hands full with patients. Sorry he works for a shitty health system.
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07-14-2020, 09:49 PM
#4504
Originally Posted by
HailStateSZN19
The Moderna vaccine is showing some real promise isn't it? Saw on Twitter just a little bit ago where they gave it to 45 patients in March and they got results back today that showed that the vaccine "revved up" the patients' immune systems.
Supposed to begin the key final testing on July 27th and are giving it to 30,000 people I believe. Can anyone comment any further if you know about this and what it means?
I know a lot of people are skeptical of Moderna and are questioning whether their early data was real. This is going to be a very closely watched vaccine. Hopefully everything is on the up and up and the vaccine works out.
By the way, just a reminder that there's still considerable doubt about how long Covid antibodies will provide immunity. Some studies have shown they drop rapidly from their initial levels. Just more reasons why I'm doubtful they're going to know anytime soon as to how effective any vaccines are.
Last edited by Joebob; 07-14-2020 at 09:56 PM.
There's someone in my head but its not me.
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07-15-2020, 07:08 AM
#4505
Originally Posted by
Joebob
I know a lot of people are skeptical of Moderna and are questioning whether their early data was real. This is going to be a very closely watched vaccine. Hopefully everything is on the up and up and the vaccine works out.
By the way, just a reminder that there's still considerable doubt about how long Covid antibodies will provide immunity. Some studies have shown they drop rapidly from their initial levels. Just more reasons why I'm doubtful they're going to know anytime soon as to how effective any vaccines are.
I'm beginning to think T cells are the more important route to immunity, as opposed to just antibodies
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07-15-2020, 07:40 AM
#4506
Originally Posted by
confucius say
I'm beginning to think T cells are the more important route to immunity, as opposed to just antibodies
Like I said before...zombie apocalypse.
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07-15-2020, 08:13 AM
#4507
Well, my neck of the woods in now the #6 hot spot in the country! Can we get to #1? Don't count us out
https://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-ne...HbVtb1LdOdzUI/
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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07-15-2020, 08:28 AM
#4508
Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
My county was #1 in our state per capita for a stretch. It's not easy, but if you give a little less fricks than others, it's possible. Throw your mask in the garbage, and shoot double birds on your way to Walmart shaking everyone's hand (haha)
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07-15-2020, 08:39 AM
#4509
Originally Posted by
Joebob
I know a lot of people are skeptical of Moderna and are questioning whether their early data was real. This is going to be a very closely watched vaccine. Hopefully everything is on the up and up and the vaccine works out.
By the way, just a reminder that there's still considerable doubt about how long Covid antibodies will provide immunity. Some studies have shown they drop rapidly from their initial levels. Just more reasons why I'm doubtful they're going to know anytime soon as to how effective any vaccines are.
I'm thinking the more we learn, the vaccine seems like a long shot, unless we just completely ignore how we normally do approvals. You're talking about a virus where 40% of the people infected don't have any symptoms, something like 90% have flu like symptoms and don't require hospitalization, and something like .3% of infected die from. That would have to be an incredibly safe vaccine with more or less non-existent side effects. Maybe you could just give it to the vulnerable, but a lot of the vulnerable tend to not respond as well to vaccines.
If we find out that we get the infection a second time and it tends to be worse, then that would help. But I assume that would mean developing an effective vaccine will be even harder.
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07-15-2020, 08:42 AM
#4510
Originally Posted by
Johnson85
I'm thinking the more we learn, the vaccine seems like a long shot, unless we just completely ignore how we normally do approvals. You're talking about a virus where 40% of the people infected don't have any symptoms, something like 90% have flu like symptoms and don't require hospitalization, and something like .3% of infected die from. That would have to be an incredibly safe vaccine with more or less non-existent side effects. Maybe you could just give it to the vulnerable, but a lot of the vulnerable tend to not respond as well to vaccines.
If we find out that we get the infection a second time and it tends to be worse, then that would help. But I assume that would mean developing an effective vaccine will be even harder.
Then throw in potential booster shots every few months
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07-15-2020, 09:03 AM
#4511
The strategy was there all along. We were just too dumb to see it.
Flatten the curve.
Flatten the economy
Flatten Freedom, Liberty, and the Human Spirit.
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07-15-2020, 09:06 AM
#4512
Originally Posted by
Johnson85
I'm thinking the more we learn, the vaccine seems like a long shot, unless we just completely ignore how we normally do approvals. You're talking about a virus where 40% of the people infected don't have any symptoms, something like 90% have flu like symptoms and don't require hospitalization, and something like .3% of infected die from. That would have to be an incredibly safe vaccine with more or less non-existent side effects. Maybe you could just give it to the vulnerable, but a lot of the vulnerable tend to not respond as well to vaccines.
If we find out that we get the infection a second time and it tends to be worse, then that would help. But I assume that would mean developing an effective vaccine will be even harder.
The antibody response is sounding a lot like the flu. It doesn't last forever. That's one of the reasons you have to get a new flu shot every year. The other is mutations and we don't know about those with this one yet.
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07-15-2020, 09:35 AM
#4513
Originally Posted by
MaroonFlounder
The strategy was there all along. We were just too dumb to see it.
Flatten the curve.
Flatten the economy
Flatten Freedom, Liberty, and the Human Spirit.
Amen! Rep given!
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07-15-2020, 09:59 AM
#4514
Coronavirus hospital data will now be sent to Trump administration instead of CDC.
Good lord...
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07-15-2020, 10:01 AM
#4515
Originally Posted by
MaroonFlounder
The strategy was there all along. We were just too dumb to see it.
Flatten the curve.
Flatten the economy
Flatten Freedom, Liberty, and the Human Spirit.
Another Amen!! Rep given.
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07-15-2020, 10:01 AM
#4516
Originally Posted by
Turfdawg67
Coronavirus hospital data will now be sent to Trump administration instead of CDC.
Good lord...
Good ... That's EXACTLY what needs to happen.
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07-15-2020, 10:20 AM
#4517
Originally Posted by
dawgday166
Good ... That's EXACTLY what needs to happen.
How can you possibly think that is a good thing.
Remove the name Trump.
We are letting the executive leadership of the country with no medical background filter what we do and don't release about our medical information. This is literally what China did when we ALL accused them of suppressing the data. This is NOT a good thing. If you think so then you are anti-freedom of information.
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07-15-2020, 11:02 AM
#4518
Originally Posted by
dantheman4248
How can you possibly think that is a good thing.
Remove the name Trump.
We are letting the executive leadership of the country with no medical background filter what we do and don't release about our medical information. This is literally what China did when we ALL accused them of suppressing the data. This is NOT a good thing. If you think so then you are anti-freedom of information.
I'm not anti freedom of information but ... I want accurate and not manipulated information.
FWIW ... there's a reason I haven't been on this board much last few weeks. I've been diving deep into this. 20 years ago I dove deep and knew about some BIG (and I mean BIG) things before they happened. I was quite shocked myself when they did come true. I know a few good sources and have since found others. Also dove deep into Kennedy assassination a little later. Kennedy was trying to stop what is going on now. Wasn't a fan of JFK before I studied it (family hated him) and came away a HUGE fan. The most patriotic (to the Constitution) President of the 20th century.
When I brought up what I knew ... people scoffed at it. Around 13 or 14 years ago threw up my hands and said eventually our freedom would gradually be eroded and we would passively end up totally socialist, but hoped it didn't happen in my lifetime. However, not everyone is as asleep as I thought they were (although I had been kinda dozing myself some). The riots and the way they progressed reawakened me.
Those folks that weren't asleep elected Trump. When Trump was elected, that was not part of the plan. And there are reasons there is a wave of stuff happening now.
Depending on the outcome of some future events, you may get EXACTLY what you would like Comrade ... and then some.
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07-15-2020, 11:02 AM
#4519
Originally Posted by
dantheman4248
How can you possibly think that is a good thing.
Remove the name Trump.
We are letting the executive leadership of the country with no medical background filter what we do and don't release about our medical information. This is literally what China did when we ALL accused them of suppressing the data. This is NOT a good thing. If you think so then you are anti-freedom of information.
It's extremely troubling that it's happening, but I'm still amazed at the people that just fall in line with Trump's totalitarian tendencies.
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07-15-2020, 11:05 AM
#4520
Originally Posted by
Dawg2003
It's extremely troubling that it's happening, but I'm still amazed at the people that just fall in line with Trump's totalitarian tendencies.
Trump's not a totalitarian. That's why he hasn't locked us down. If Hillary was President, you'd really be seeing totalitarian right about now.
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