2021 MSU Football Recruiting Discussion Thread

[HancockCountyDog]

His offense looked like shit in year one here, just like it looked like shit everywhere else. Talking about his offense not scoring points on those teams year one as if he hasn?t scored a shit ton on those level defenses throughout his career is willful ignorance. Did you just do a memory eraser on everything he did prior to last year? Did you not pop in some tape of his Washington State and Texas tech year one to let you see that this past year wasn?t some anomaly that should scare us to death? Just saying ?you are making excuses for Leach? after 1 freaking year is either lazy or agenda driven. Period.

I have no doubts that Leach can light up mediocre defenses. I need to see him light up trams with above average defenses. At times this year he didn?t do that.

It?s not lazy or agenda driven to have concerns after year 1 when the offense did struggle and the defense really carried the team. It appears you won?t acknowledge that point so we are at the agree to disagree stage.

Let?s turn the discussion back to recruiting.

[FISHDAWG]

I have no doubts that Leach can light up mediocre defenses. I need to see him light up trams with above average defenses. At times this year he didn?t do that.

It?s not lazy or agenda driven to have concerns after year 1 when the offense did struggle and the defense really carried the team. It appears you won?t acknowledge that point so we are at the agree to disagree stage.

Let?s turn the discussion back to recruiting.

I also was in this camp for most of the season but I was also encouraged about the improvement that was realized in the last half of the schedule ... This improvement needs to be parlayed into a legitimate bowl qualifying season next year with possibly an upset somewhere along the way. I was as down on Leach as anyone here but the improvement as the season went along is undeniable .... I'm not upset with our recruiting but I would also hope for the same improvement here as well

[HancockCountyDog]

I also was in this camp for most of the season but I was also encouraged about the improvement that was realized in the last half of the schedule ... This improvement needs to be parlayed into a legitimate bowl qualifying season next year with possibly an upset somewhere along the way. I was as down on Leach as anyone here but the improvement as the season went along is undeniable .... I'm not upset with our recruiting but I would also hope for the same improvement here as well

The improvement was undeniable. I was hoping it would continue in recruiting.

[BrunswickDawg]

The improvement was undeniable. I was hoping it would continue in recruiting.

I consider maintaining the 25-30 ranking range with a weak in-state crop as an improvement. Especially in light of the fact that all of the recruiting is being done virtually.

[Jarius]

I have no doubts that Leach can light up mediocre defenses. I need to see him light up trams with above average defenses. At times this year he didn?t do that.

It?s not lazy or agenda driven to have concerns after year 1 when the offense did struggle and the defense really carried the team. It appears you won?t acknowledge that point so we are at the agree to disagree stage.

Let?s turn the discussion back to recruiting.

Yes it is, if you have done any research or kept up with Leach for the past 20 years. He has a track record of this everywhere he goes. Pointing to that track record isn’t excuse making. It’s using common sense instead of Pearl clutching over willful ignorance. That isn’t to say he is going to beat up on Alabama and LSU and Auburn defenses every year, but the teams mentioned in previous posts aren’t going to shut down Leach’s offenses going forward. That type defensive talent never has and never will on any sort of consistent basis once Leach has been established at a program.